YTSEJAM Digest 7052 Today's Topics: 1) books? sure? by Partha Mukhopadhyay 2) Re: ytsejam book club by Mike Shetzer 3) RE: ytsejam book club by "Niall Connaughton" 4) Re: ytsejam book club by Mike Shetzer 5) RE: ytsejam book club by "Niall Connaughton" 6) Re: ytsejam book club by Mike Shetzer 7) RE: ytsejam book club by "Niall Connaughton" 8) Re: ytsejam book club by Mike Shetzer 9) Re: WDADU Re-Re-release by Scott Hansen 10) RE: ytsejam book club by Rick Audet 11) Re: ytsejam book club by email_address_removed 12) Re: ytsejam book club by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:12:29 -0800 (PST) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: books? sure? Message-ID: >Works for me. Whatever gets the discussion rolling I >guess :) >So... read any good books lately? sure, re-reading my all time fave right now....THE GODFATHER gotta figure out where i put that dvd, though....i'll be wanting to watch it when i'm done reading it.... speaking of EOJ's, as you were a ew days ago....i recall when a message from the high and almighty Skadz was an event, too.... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:34:36 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ytsejam book club Message-ID: <003101c4e551$c13f0160$9b00a8c0@mizz> Yeah, something like that. I don't remember it perfectly, but that is pretty close. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: Re: ytsejam book club > > -------------------------------1103400422 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > membrane theory? is that the latest version of string theory and the 10th > dimension if so, it is some crazy stuff. really makes the brain kind of feel like > it just ran a 5k. > jacko > > -------------------------------1103400422 > ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:15:57 +1100 From: "Niall Connaughton" To: Subject: RE: ytsejam book club Message-ID: If you like those books, you might also like the books by Simon Singh. They are not as heavy reading as books like "A Brief History of Time", not as in depth, but they are very interesting. His style is to write about the history of a particular field and the achievements of all the people through time leading up to the current day. His latest one is called "Big Bang", which is about how our current theory on the beginning of the universe came to be created and the trials of proof and experiment it had to go through to come out ahead of the other models. It's a very good read. His other two books are "The Code Book", which is about the history of cryptography, and his best IMO, and "Fermat's Last Theorem", which is about the hundreds of years it took mathematicians to solve a simple riddle (it was solved in the mid 1990s) a French mathematician said was trivial. So yeah, anyway, if you're interested in that stuff, I'd highly recommend these books. Oh, and if I see one more person reading The Da Vinci code, I'm going to scream. Niall > -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Dan Costello > Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2004 3:28 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: ytsejam book club > > > >So... read any good books lately? > > I've been reading a bunch of space-time/string theory stuff lately: > "Universe in a Nutshell" and "Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking, > Right now I'm in the middle of "The Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene. > Greene's definitely got a better handle on how to explain this stuff to > schmuks like me. > > -Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:46:30 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ytsejam book club Message-ID: <000701c4e55b$cc1db4a0$9b00a8c0@mizz> Without going to great lengths to find this Fermat book, what was said riddle? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niall Connaughton" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: RE: ytsejam book club > If you like those books, you might also like the books by Simon Singh. They > are not as heavy reading as books like "A Brief History of Time", not as in > depth, but they are very interesting. His style is to write about the > history of a particular field and the achievements of all the people through > time leading up to the current day. > > His latest one is called "Big Bang", which is about how our current theory > on the beginning of the universe came to be created and the trials of proof > and experiment it had to go through to come out ahead of the other models. > It's a very good read. > > His other two books are "The Code Book", which is about the history of > cryptography, and his best IMO, and "Fermat's Last Theorem", which is about > the hundreds of years it took mathematicians to solve a simple riddle (it > was solved in the mid 1990s) a French mathematician said was trivial. > > So yeah, anyway, if you're interested in that stuff, I'd highly recommend > these books. > > Oh, and if I see one more person reading The Da Vinci code, I'm going to > scream. > > Niall > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > > Dan Costello > > Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2004 3:28 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: ytsejam book club > > > > > > >So... read any good books lately? > > > > I've been reading a bunch of space-time/string theory stuff lately: > > "Universe in a Nutshell" and "Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking, > > Right now I'm in the middle of "The Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene. > > Greene's definitely got a better handle on how to explain this stuff to > > schmuks like me. > > > > -Dan. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:27:26 +1100 From: "Niall Connaughton" To: Subject: RE: ytsejam book club Message-ID: The French mathematician (Fermat) said that he could prove that there are no solutions for x^n + y^n = z^n, for non-zero x,y,z and I think n > 2. (where ^n means to the power of n). Fermat was a hobbyist mathematician who seemed to have a knack for it, but was never interested in the problem past the point at which he had worked out how the solution would go in his head (I guess he didn't respect the problem in the morning :P). So he would solve any number of interesting problems by writing the gist of the solution in the margins of text books. When he came to the above problem, he wrote in the margin something like "I have a deviously simple solution, but it is too big to fit in this margin." So three hundred years later, mathematicians finally solved it :P There were many breakthroughs in number theory on the way to solve the problem, even from those who failed in the end goal. I think the british mathematician who finally solved it did all his work only towards Fermat's Last Theorem, but his end result ended up as something like 7 different papers of new approaches to number theory. Niall > -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Mike Shetzer > Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2004 10:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: ytsejam book club > > > Without going to great lengths to find this Fermat book, what was said > riddle? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:48:24 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ytsejam book club Message-ID: <000701c4e564$725cef40$9b00a8c0@mizz> LOL, that's a math riddle? That sounds just plain math-y to me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niall Connaughton" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: RE: ytsejam book club > The French mathematician (Fermat) said that he could prove that there are no > solutions for x^n + y^n = z^n, for non-zero x,y,z and I think n > 2. (where > ^n means to the power of n). > > Fermat was a hobbyist mathematician who seemed to have a knack for it, but > was never interested in the problem past the point at which he had worked > out how the solution would go in his head (I guess he didn't respect the > problem in the morning :P). So he would solve any number of interesting > problems by writing the gist of the solution in the margins of text books. > When he came to the above problem, he wrote in the margin something like "I > have a deviously simple solution, but it is too big to fit in this margin." > > So three hundred years later, mathematicians finally solved it :P There were > many breakthroughs in number theory on the way to solve the problem, even > from those who failed in the end goal. I think the british mathematician who > finally solved it did all his work only towards Fermat's Last Theorem, but > his end result ended up as something like 7 different papers of new > approaches to number theory. > > Niall > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > > Mike Shetzer > > Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2004 10:54 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: ytsejam book club > > > > > > Without going to great lengths to find this Fermat book, what was said > > riddle? > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:41:35 +1100 From: "Niall Connaughton" To: Subject: RE: ytsejam book club Message-ID: Well, I didn't mean a riddle of the sort such as "Three men go to a hotel with one woman. Two days later, five women and a monkey leave the hotel. Why?" :P If you remember your Pythagorus' Theorem, which is of the form x^2 + y^2 z^2, used for right angle triangles, this riddle just came out of someone asking "I wonder if that could work if it was ^3 instead of ^2." Niall > -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Mike Shetzer > Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2004 11:57 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: ytsejam book club > > > LOL, that's a math riddle? That sounds just plain math-y to me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:49:59 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ytsejam book club Message-ID: <000701c4e56d$0c9d7c20$9b00a8c0@mizz> Ah... that makes more sense. Math is fun! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niall Connaughton" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:27 PM Subject: RE: ytsejam book club > Well, I didn't mean a riddle of the sort such as "Three men go to a hotel > with one woman. Two days later, five women and a monkey leave the hotel. > Why?" :P > > If you remember your Pythagorus' Theorem, which is of the form x^2 + y^2 > z^2, used for right angle triangles, this riddle just came out of someone > asking "I wonder if that could work if it was ^3 instead of ^2." > > Niall > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > > Mike Shetzer > > Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2004 11:57 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: ytsejam book club > > > > > > LOL, that's a math riddle? That sounds just plain math-y to me. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:15:59 -0800 From: Scott Hansen To: Subject: Re: WDADU Re-Re-release Message-ID: In a mind-blowing e-mail sent on the extremely historic date of 12/18/04 1:28 PM, Rick Audet thusly spaketh: > Wouldn't it be great if they'd just re-record that whole thing? Same goes > for Symphony X's first album... > > I won't hold my breath. > > On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Marc Contrady wrote: > >> In FYE in the Dover, DE mall they had a poster hanging up announcing >> another release of WDADU w/ new pictures inside and stuff. >> The date on the disc was 2004 but I forget the name of the company. It >> wasn't Mechanic or One-Way (are they the ones that released it before?). >> It stated remastered by someone also. >> Does anyone have any info? >> Needless to say I was surprised to see DT being advertised, and for this >> cd none the less. >> Well Ricky, your dream is kinda coming tr00. I gotta think you knew this already, but DT performed ALL of WDaDU in LA this last March and recorded it on multi-track. Those recordings have since been mixed and mastered, and that particular "version" of the album is one of the releases slated for the next batch of Ytsejam Records releases. So no, they aren't gonna go back into the studio to re-record it, but they're doing the next best thing... Scott PS I'm pretty positive I've read several times that SyX *is* re-recording their debut album. Looks like you could hold your breath after all! :-p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:33:23 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: ytsejam book club Message-ID: Speaking of Fermat's Last Theorem: http://electricrain.com/spine/kineto_-_theorem.mp3 On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Niall Connaughton wrote: > The French mathematician (Fermat) said that he could prove that there are no > solutions for x^n + y^n = z^n, for non-zero x,y,z and I think n > 2. (where > ^n means to the power of n). > > Fermat was a hobbyist mathematician who seemed to have a knack for it, but > was never interested in the problem past the point at which he had worked > out how the solution would go in his head (I guess he didn't respect the > problem in the morning :P). So he would solve any number of interesting > problems by writing the gist of the solution in the margins of text books. > When he came to the above problem, he wrote in the margin something like "I > have a deviously simple solution, but it is too big to fit in this margin." > > So three hundred years later, mathematicians finally solved it :P There were > many breakthroughs in number theory on the way to solve the problem, even > from those who failed in the end goal. I think the british mathematician who > finally solved it did all his work only towards Fermat's Last Theorem, but > his end result ended up as something like 7 different papers of new > approaches to number theory. > > Niall ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:28:43 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ytsejam book club Message-ID: -------------------------------1103470123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" i actually read fermat's last theorem this summer. surprisingly light read for such a heavy topic. my co-workers at the fire house thought i was nuts. then again, a couple of years ago i read "the origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicambrial mind". great cure for insomnia, but an interesting theory. jacko -------------------------------1103470123 ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:33:14 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ytsejam book club Message-ID: -------------------------------1103470394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" if you liked the last theorem book, i just remembered another i read this summer. "the music of the primes" i believe it was called. all about how to solve the puzzle of accurately predicting prime numbers that have more than 9 decimal places to the left. yep, i'm a geek. jacko -------------------------------1103470394 ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 7052 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === More information at: http://www.dreamt.org/local/ytsejam.php === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===