YTSEJAM Digest 7019 Today's Topics: 1) Re:shadow Gallery by "Tony K" 2) Re: shadow Gallery by Mike Shetzer 3) Re: shadow Gallery by Rick Audet 4) Shadow Gallery, Zero Hour, etc. by "Paul W. Cashman" 5) RE: Pink Floyd by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 6) RE: shadow Gallery by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 7) Studio only bands? (was: Re: shadow Gallery) by email_address_removed 8) Re: Threshold by Alexandra 9) Re: Bands that don't play live by Steve Chew 10) Re: Bands that don't play live by Jax 11) OT : Scott Peterson jury verdict by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 12) RE: OT : Scott Peterson jury verdict by "Niall Connaughton" 13) Re: OT : Scott Peterson jury verdict by WB Henderson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:40:11 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Subject: Re:shadow Gallery Message-ID: <003501c4c871$b31b7fc0$0200a8c0@bigtony> > Subject: Re: shadow Gallery > Message-ID: <000f01c4c867$95b6ac20$9b00a8c0@mizz> > > I could very well be confusing it with another band, which I think I am... > > I wonder why they don't play live? Two big reasons. They'd probably need extra musicians to do all their stuff live. And, they don't get along with each other that well. They can't even all record in the studio at the same time. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:32:01 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: shadow Gallery Message-ID: <005f01c4c878$ef73a220$9b00a8c0@mizz> Dali's Dilemma is kickass. Love that CD... I think the reason they never played a show was because after that one album, the band sorta disippated (or so I think). Matt Guillory (keyboardist) has said little about their new singer and new album, but only that they seem to be pulling a Spastic Ink by taking their sweet time. Here's hoping for the best... Too bad though, I really liked their singer. He sounded like an alternative rock / grunge singer that they dragged into the prog world ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Audet" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:58 PM Subject: Re: shadow Gallery > > I never understood that either. The whole being in a band but never > playing live, thing. Maybe they have stage fright. Maybe they think they > can't pull it off in a live setting. Maybe there's no music scene in their > area. It baffles me. I thought the whole idea of being in a band was to > rehearse, book gigs, play shows, put out music, rinse, repeat. Dali's > Dilemma is another example. Have they ever played a show? Not as far as I > know. How about Zero Hour? Seems like they've only ever played two shows: > Progpower 2003, and as a last-minute fill-in opener for Symphony X in San > Francisco two years ago. I see those guys attending shows all the time, > but I never hear about them PLAYING shows. Maybe there's a new approach to > being in a band that I'm not familiar with. The band I play in has gigs a > couple times a month, all around the San Francisco Bay Area. It might be > old fashioned, but it sure is fun. > > Can we name any other bands who are purely "studio bands"? Seems like > Symphony X was falling into that category until around 1998. > > -Rick > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Mike Shetzer wrote: > > > I could very well be confusing it with another band, which I think I am... > > > > I wonder why they don't play live? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "WB Henderson" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:54 PM > > Subject: Re: shadow Gallery > > > > > > > >Last I heard was a potential DVD methinks... > > > > > > Really? That's nuts. What would be on it? AFAIK, Shadow Gallery has > > > naever played live or made a music video. > > > > > > Brian > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:02:55 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: shadow Gallery Message-ID: I'd think bands could play shows before ever releasing an album. I mean, the band is together, writing music, recording music, and rehearsing together (I assume). Why not book some shows instead of hiding in your practice space? Get the music out there even if you have to mix in a few cover tunes in order to play a long enough set. Van Halen was all covers in the early days, playing backyard parties and high school dances any chance they got. On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Mike Shetzer wrote: > Dali's Dilemma is kickass. Love that CD... I think the reason they never > played a show was because after that one album, the band sorta disippated > (or so I think). Matt Guillory (keyboardist) has said little about their new > singer and new album, but only that they seem to be pulling a Spastic Ink by > taking their sweet time. Here's hoping for the best... > Too bad though, I really liked their singer. He sounded like an alternative > rock / grunge singer that they dragged into the prog world ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 05:21:52 -0500 From: "Paul W. Cashman" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Shadow Gallery, Zero Hour, etc. Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:08:36 -0800 (PST) > From: Rick Audet > Subject: Re: shadow Gallery > > I never understood that either. The whole being in a band but never > playing live, thing. Maybe they have stage fright. Maybe they think they > can't pull it off in a live setting. Maybe there's no music scene in their > area. It baffles me. I thought the whole idea of being in a band was to > rehearse, book gigs, play shows, put out music, rinse, repeat. Shadow Gallery has never played a show as far as I know, and moreover, as announced (loudly) by Glenn "ProgPower" Harveston outside one event here, "Shadow Gallery will NEVER tour. Take it from me, it will never happen." He apparently offered them a huge amount of money to play PP, and they declined. Incidentally, Mike Baker from SG does make an appearance on the new Ayreon double CD, alongside such vocal talents as Opeth's Mikael Akerfeldt, Devin Townsend, Dead Soul Tribe's Devon Graves, Saviour Machine's Eric Clayton, Irene and Floor Jansen, and of course, our own James Labrie (who has the lead vocal role, if such it can be called). Outstanding release; my favorite of 2004. > How about Zero Hour? Seems like they've only ever played two shows: > Progpower 2003, and as a last-minute fill-in opener for Symphony X in San > Francisco two years ago. I see those guys attending shows all the time, > but I never hear about them PLAYING shows. They played in 2002, and also played at ProgPower in 2001 (in February). Not quite the same thing, but their Death Machine side-project has played a few shows out, too. -- +----------- Paul W. Cashman www.paulcashman.com ----------+ | email: email_address_removed | | "direct" site address: http://66.193.230.227/~paulcas/ | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ---YTSEJAM-FILTER: This message was posted using the YML command ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:58:35 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" Subject: RE: Pink Floyd Message-ID: I've never been to one of those. They had them all the time in Fort Worth, TX at the Museum of Science and History Planet-AIR-ium (southpark reference there). Maybe I aughta go. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Mc Cord Hey, has anyone here been to that Pink Floyd Laser Spectacular? It's happening early January here in Dallas, and I was wondering if anybody knows if it's worth it. It sounds cool to me; tickets are that expensive anyway. Pink Floyd is cool. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:03:40 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: shadow Gallery Message-ID: I believe Rick and Mike have stumbled onto a huge Conspiracy Theory! : ) -----Original Message----- From: Rick Audet [mailto:email_address_removed I'd think bands could play shows before ever releasing an album. I mean, the band is together, writing music, recording music, and rehearsing together (I assume). Why not book some shows instead of hiding in your practice space? Get the music out there even if you have to mix in a few cover tunes in order to play a long enough set. Van Halen was all covers in the early days, playing backyard parties and high school dances any chance they got. On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Mike Shetzer wrote: > Dali's Dilemma is kickass. Love that CD... I think the reason they never > played a show was because after that one album, the band sorta disippated > (or so I think). Matt Guillory (keyboardist) has said little about their new > singer and new album, but only that they seem to be pulling a Spastic Ink by > taking their sweet time. Here's hoping for the best... > Too bad though, I really liked their singer. He sounded like an alternative > rock / grunge singer that they dragged into the prog world ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:33:32 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Studio only bands? (was: Re: shadow Gallery) Message-ID: Rick Audet wrote: > Can we name any other bands who are purely "studio bands"? Seems like > Symphony X was falling into that category until around 1998. Steely Dan was for years as well. __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:22:58 -0800 (PST) From: Alexandra To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Threshold Message-ID: >I love the new disc and it rivals Psychedelicatessen >(sp?) as my favorite Threshold CD. I liked Critical > Mass but I agree Hypothetical was better. >Subsurface is amazing though!!! I think Mac is >incredible but Glynn Morgan is one of the best >singers I've ever heard. I was never a big fan of >Damian Wilson though. I never really was either. His voice was too "thin" for me. Extinct Instinct is saved by (IMO) some really cool songs. Psychedelicatessen... that's one I may not own... have to check. Speaking of voices, I'm listening to the new Nightingale right now and I'm loving it! Swano has absolutely one of my favorite voices out there right now. Mmmm, ear candy. Alex ==== "Living in NJ is a necessary, but not sufficient, cause of becoming violently ill" -survey methods student www.Scenes.de __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:22:47 -0500 From: Steve Chew To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Bands that don't play live Message-ID: > >Can we name any other bands who are purely "studio bands"? Seems like >Symphony X was falling into that category until around 1998. > Magellan is that way too. Seems like a few of the Magna Carta label bands are purely studio bands. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:15:51 -0500 From: Jax To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Bands that don't play live Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20041112151427.01eed990@216.130.191.1> At 01:27 PM 11/12/2004, Steve Chew wrote: > Magellan is that way too. Seems like a few of the Magna Carta >label bands are purely studio bands. I'm sure MC likes it that way, so they don't have to actually spend money on tours..*snort* Jax ________________________________ Jax ~ email_address_removed Without music, life would be a mistake. - Friedrich Nietzsche ________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:12:04 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" Subject: OT : Scott Peterson jury verdict Message-ID: GUILTY ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 10:46:13 +1100 From: "Niall Connaughton" To: Subject: RE: OT : Scott Peterson jury verdict Message-ID: What about Alex Lifeson? Is he ever actually going to end up in court? > -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Souter, Jan-Michael > Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2004 7:58 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: OT : Scott Peterson jury verdict > > > GUILTY > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 19:59:11 -0500 From: WB Henderson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: OT : Scott Peterson jury verdict Message-ID: At 12:58 PM 11/12/2004 -0800, you wrote: >GUILTY Whee. I wonder what the next nationally televised court case will be about? Keep your fingers crossed for regicide. That would make for some even harder-hitting journalism. How did we ever hold trials without the help of the media? Regarding Shadow Gallery's live playing, I've heard Gary Wehrkamp's the only one really holding it together these days. Check out the writing credits for the last album compared to those previous. While the older ones were more group efforts, nearly every song on 'Legacy' was written by Wehrkamp. Of the other guys, rumor has it some are in local bar bands and would rather play with them. Brian ============================================= WB Henderson email_address_removed ============================================= ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 7019 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === More information at: http://www.dreamt.org/local/ytsejam.php === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===