YTSEJAM Digest 6597 Today's Topics: 1) Re: ptree acoustic? by WB Henderson 2) Re: ptree acoustic? by Lisa Palma 3) RE: JP's wireless, Cleveland Tix & Baltimore setlist by "Dan Costello" 4) Re: Ytsejam Digest 6578 : NDV and Fates Warning by "Jxrgen C. Bakken" 5) RE: Green Carnation by "Alexis Ramos" 6) Re: ptree acoustic? by Graham Borland 7) Re: ptree acoustic? by Mike Shetzer 8) Re: Green Carnation by Mike Shetzer 9) Re: Ytsejam Digest 6578 : NDV and Fates Warning by Andrew Coutermarsh 10) Re: ptree acoustic? by Lisa Palma 11) Re: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD by "Kez" 12) Re: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD by Coldfire 13) this can not be real by "TREVOR HOIT" 14) Re: this can not be real by email_address_removed 15) Re: this can not be real by Lisa Palma 16) RE: this can not be real by "Todd O. Klindt" 17) Re: this can not be real by Rick Audet 18) Matt Smith's St Anger Tribute by "Dan Costello" 19) Re: JP's wireless, Cleveland Tix & Baltimore setlist by "Dave Schott" 20) Re: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD by "Dave Schott" 21) Re: this can not be real by Damon Fibraio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:30:46 -0400 From: WB Henderson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ptree acoustic? Message-ID: Trevor Hoit wrote: > "Another INFINITE-ly entertaining show--OPETH, and a rare acoustic set > from PORCUPINE TREE.Should be a classic!" > > To anyone that has seen Porcupine Tree lately-Have any of the > shows been acoustic? Has any one heard that this one will be? As far as I know, Opeth is the band playing the acoustic set, but it's just as or more likely both bands are. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:55:41 -0700 From: Lisa Palma To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ptree acoustic? Message-ID: At 10:36 AM 7/16/2003 -0700, trevor wrote:

I just read this on tickets west.
http://www.ticketswest.com/TW/Events/Performance.asp?xval=3DNONE&Cat1=3DC
ON&Cat2=3DROC&Cat3=3DPX0803&MP=3DFalse

"Another INFINITE-ly entertaining show--OPETH, and a rare acoustic set
from PORCUPINE TREE.Should be a classic!"

To anyone that has seen Porcupine Tree lately-Have any of the shows been
acoustic?
Has any one heard that this one will be?

Directly from G.Kieffer of the PT Street Team:

"The PT show WILL be a full on electric set, complete with stage show in all it's glory and splendor...
The mistake in that Ticketswest.com advert was that they are mistakenly attributing this "acoustic set" description to PT as opposed to the intended target: Opeth's set (which BTW will not be entirely acoustic either...) "

::::Lisa Marie Palma::::
:::::email_address_removed::::: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:00:47 -0400 From: "Dan Costello" To: Subject: RE: JP's wireless, Cleveland Tix & Baltimore setlist Message-ID: >I thought that maybe he went back to wired due to some sort of complexity of >his rig the size of a Durango. Perhaps wireless was just that much more to >add in to manage. It seems like JM has gone back to using it. There has to >be a legit reason, I just have yet to see it posted anywher. Nah, wireless is pretty small. The receivers are typically 1U high and 1/2U wide. Unless you have to have one for each guitar, in which case it might become combersome. >Due to some spectacular luck we were able to upgrade our seats and now >have 2 seats in section 1 row c just off the center aisle available for >Cleveland. Please e-mail me before 1pm wednesday .. >email_address_removed Thanks!!!! You upgraded FROM 3rd row aisle?!?!? DAMN! >Setlist as well as I can remember. > >The Glass Prison >UNDER A GLASS MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Another Day >Home >A MIND BESIDE ITSELF!!!! >Solitary Shell >Metropolis >Peruvian Skies (actually part of the Dream Theater + Queensryche Encore) they played metropolis AND UAGM?!?!?!? Dude, you suck! :-) They did the UAGM solo in NJ, but that doesn't count. Those are 2 of 3 tunes I've never seen live that I really want to. The other one is all of ACOS. I wouldn't mind seeing Lifting Shadows off a Dream either. -Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:23:18 +0000 From: "Jxrgen C. Bakken" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Digest 6578 : NDV and Fates Warning Message-ID: ----Original Message Follows---- From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed, email_address_removed Subject: Rejected mail from Ytsejam Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from script.torchsong.com ([216.120.58.2]) by mc5-f3.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:15:51 -0700 Received: from script.torchsong.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by script.torchsong.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6GJ9w3j004593;Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost)by script.torchsong.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6GJ9wUj004592;Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:09:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Q1OJDRSDidP Message-Id: Return-Path: email_address_removed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2003 19:15:52.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC5D7CE0:01C34BCE] The following message was rejected from Ytsejam. It looks like the return address is email_address_removed Offending line(s): Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 6596 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: If this was a legitimate posting to the Ytsejam list (which means that it must have any Dream Theater related contents) feel free to post again but use the following subjectline: Subject: YML: Re: YTSEJAM digest 6596 If you decide to repost your message please remove everything up to the line that says CUT HERE. For more info check http://www.dreamt.org/local/filter.php If you have questions about this message please contact email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # From ytsejam-manager Wed Jul 16 12:09:57 2003 # From: "Jxrgen C. Bakken" # To: ytsejam@torchsong.com # Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 6596 # Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:15:42 +0000 # Message-ID: -------------------------> CUT HERE <------------------------- >: Before the actual mail, what is this above here? What did I do wrong? And now, on to our reguarly scheduled Ytsejam in progress. >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:41:05 -0400 >From: "Dave Schott" >Subject: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD >My first concert ever and what an awesome one it was! Good for you. >Fatez Warning (:-p) awesome, spot on vocals ripping guitar and my man NDV >on >the drums. I was disappointed at the lack of Kevin Moore but still good >nonetheless. So, hold on, braaahaha, waitaminute, Nick? NDV? The everlovin' blue-eyed drummer of Spock's Beard? Is playing with Fates Warning? Isn't this news? When did this happen? And where is Mark? But the Kevin thing, as I recall from the APSoG and Disconnected news, Kevin oonly playes on the record, and some other dude tours with them. Sit thight people, there ought to be some news about a record soon. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger http://www.msn.no/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner ---YTSEJAM-FILTER: This message was posted using the YML command ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:37:23 -0400 From: "Alexis Ramos" To: Subject: RE: Green Carnation Message-ID: Uhhhh, no :-) I just like the cd a lot. Has anybody else heard it yet? > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:32:18 +0200 > From: "Stephen Gervois" > To: > Subject: Green Carnation > Message-ID: <001301c34b64$01ba3860$3cff9f0a@PCxxxx> > > Alexis - are you a member of Green Carnation ? ;) > > >Well, Green Carnation has done it again people. Their > >new album A Blessing in Disguise is smoking!!!!! Damn > >it's good. I thought they weren't going to be able to > >keep up the work they did in LoD, DoD, but they > >somehow managed to do it. This album has everything: > >beautiful melodies, heavy parts, soft parts, great > >lyrics (at least the few I've read), interesting > >songs, dynamics, variety, etc. If you thought their > >previous album was a bit repetitive, you won't be able > >to complain about that this time. The music is so > >damn beautiful, semi-depressing and dark. You all > >need to get this album. Very highly recommended. > >This will definitely be one of my favorite releases > >this year. > ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jul 2003 21:44:57 +0100 From: Graham Borland To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ptree acoustic? Message-ID: Lisa Palma writes: > > At 10:36 AM 7/16/2003 -0700, trevor wrote:
>

I just read this on tickets > west.
Uh, speak English please, Lisa. :-P -- Graham Borland email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:48:58 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ptree acoustic? Message-ID: <008001c34bdb$adf4d2d0$9b00a8c0@mike> I'll be seeing them in about 3 hours, so I'll let you all know =) ----- Original Message ----- From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: ptree acoustic? > > > I just read this on tickets west. > http://www.ticketswest.com/TW/Events/Performance.asp?xval=3DNONE&Cat1=3DC > ON&Cat2=3DROC&Cat3=3DPX0803&MP=3DFalse > > "Another INFINITE-ly entertaining show--OPETH, and a rare acoustic set > from PORCUPINE TREE.Should be a classic!" > > To anyone that has seen Porcupine Tree lately-Have any of the shows been > acoustic? > Has any one heard that this one will be? > > trevor > ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:49:34 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Green Carnation Message-ID: <009f01c34bdb$c37fa7b0$9b00a8c0@mike> I have it and am listening to it right after I let John Arch's new CD sink in :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexis Ramos" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: RE: Green Carnation > Uhhhh, no :-) I just like the cd a lot. Has anybody else heard it yet? > > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:32:18 +0200 > > From: "Stephen Gervois" > > To: > > Subject: Green Carnation > > Message-ID: <001301c34b64$01ba3860$3cff9f0a@PCxxxx> > > > > Alexis - are you a member of Green Carnation ? ;) > > > > >Well, Green Carnation has done it again people. Their > > >new album A Blessing in Disguise is smoking!!!!! Damn > > >it's good. I thought they weren't going to be able to > > >keep up the work they did in LoD, DoD, but they > > >somehow managed to do it. This album has everything: > > >beautiful melodies, heavy parts, soft parts, great > > >lyrics (at least the few I've read), interesting > > >songs, dynamics, variety, etc. If you thought their > > >previous album was a bit repetitive, you won't be able > > >to complain about that this time. The music is so > > >damn beautiful, semi-depressing and dark. You all > > >need to get this album. Very highly recommended. > > >This will definitely be one of my favorite releases > > >this year. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:58:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Digest 6578 : NDV and Fates Warning Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Jxrgen C. Bakken wrote: > > Fatez Warning (:-p) awesome, spot on vocals ripping guitar and my man > > NDV on the drums. I was disappointed at the lack of Kevin Moore but > > still good nonetheless. > > So, hold on, braaahaha, waitaminute, Nick? NDV? The everlovin' blue-eyed > drummer of Spock's Beard? Is playing with Fates Warning? Isn't this > news? When did this happen? And where is Mark? First of all: News about the album: Mike has said that as soon as they're done touring, they'll go back into the studio to record vocals. I knew that they weren't done recording, but this is a little more concrete in terms of what stage they're in. As to NDV: Yes, this is indeed Nick D'Virgilio playing for Fates, and man, did he ever smoke it. That guy is just incredible. Sorry if this gets posted twice; YML rejected my email, too. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh - http://www.acvox.com/ Email Address: andrew at acvox dot com ------------------------------------------------- If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. ------------------------------------------------- ---YTSEJAM-FILTER: This message was posted using the YML command ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:19:07 -0700 From: Lisa Palma To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ptree acoustic? Message-ID: At 01:51 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, Graham Borland wrote: >Lisa Palma writes: > > > > > At 10:36 AM 7/16/2003 -0700, trevor wrote:
> >
I just read this on tickets > > west.
> >Uh, speak English please, Lisa. :-P Doh. Sorry, it was a copy/paste job. I didn't even think Eudora did html. Let's try that again... Directly from G.Kieffer of the PT Street Team: "The PT show WILL be a full on electric set, complete with stage show in all it's glory and splendor... The mistake in that Ticketswest.com advert was that they are mistakenly attributing this "acoustic set" description to PT as opposed to the intended target: Opeth's set (which BTW will not be entirely acoustic either...) " ::::Lisa Marie Palma:::: :::::email_address_removed::::: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:54:40 -0400 From: "Kez" To: Subject: Re: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD Message-ID: <012201c34c06$62f87270$6401a8c0@amdathlon14> Fates played Point of View from Parallels, and QR played Best I Can. That's the only fill-in I can offer. Glad Queensryche DIDN'T play Silent Lucidity.......... What a show..............Geoff Tate impressed me to no end, and then James just OWNED! It was friggin' ridiculous how good they both were. James went for and nailed many notes that he hasn't even attempted in the past. Another Day AND Under A Glass Moon were ALMOST spot on to the original vocally, and that's NEVER been the case(and I've been seeing them live since '92.) Geoff went back in time and found a voice that I didn't think was in his zip code anymore. He was better than great. He was phenomenal(and I've never really been THAT big a fan of his). DT had a couple of minor technical flubs, just to remind us that there were still humans on stage, and not machines....... ;) One of the most entertaining shows I've been to in a VERY long time. Outstanding! SHOUT-OUTS to: Ivan(I-man), Chris Roy, Matt Crooks, Jon(SumWhiteGuy), Ryan(RyanGWU), Joe R.(DCJoe, Devilsfood), and anyone else that I may have seen or that may have seen my banana yellow DT shirt(courtesy of Josh Rasiel). Missed seeing Dave Thomas, Jaime, Mike Blevins, Coldie, et. al. Where WERE you guys???? If you weren't there, you missed one heck of a great night. I'm done, Kez ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Schott" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD > My first concert ever and what an awesome one it was! > > Fatez Warning (:-p) awesome, spot on vocals ripping guitar and my man NDV on > the drums. I was disappointed at the lack of Kevin Moore but still good > nonetheless. They played > > Disconnected Part 1 > One > APSOG Part 3 > Something from Parallels > Something else? > Pieces Of Me > OSI Memory Daydream Lapses? I think > I think there was something else too, but I can't remember. > > Then Queensryche came out. Very nice, I didn't know anything except the > songs they played from Mindcrime: Spreading The Disease, The Mission, I > Don't Believe In Love, and Eyes Of A Stranger. Disappointed that they didn't > play Silent Lucidity. > > Dream Theater... fucking wow. That's all I can say. Only complain: Myung was > periodically not loud enough. > > Setlist as well as I can remember. > > The Glass Prison > UNDER A GLASS MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Another Day > Home > A MIND BESIDE ITSELF!!!! > Solitary Shell > Metropolis > Peruvian Skies (actually part of the Dream Theater + Queensryche Encore) > > All in all it was a very cool show three songs at the end. Peruvian Skies, > some QR song from a movie? and a The Who song. Other highlights: Seeing a > Rainmaker (TFK) shirt, hearing Blackest Eyes (Porcupine Tree) between QR and > DT and seeing a large man in a Boba Fett shirt with long blue hair! I got > myself a nice ($30!) shirt a DT keychain and a $2 dollar Coke (damn not > being 21 there was Mike's!!) > > Anyone else who was there feel free to fill in and or correct any songs I > put down. > > Peace > > I've lost a few more hairs... I think, I think I'm going bald. > > -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) > email_address_removed > http://www.bangarangband,com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:08:34 -0400 From: Coldfire To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD Message-ID: KEEEEEEZ!!!!!!!!!!! Kez wrote: > > > SHOUT-OUTS to: Ivan(I-man), Chris Roy, Matt Crooks, Jon(SumWhiteGuy), > Ryan(RyanGWU), Joe R.(DCJoe, Devilsfood), and anyone else that I may have > seen or that may have seen my banana yellow DT shirt(courtesy of Josh > Rasiel). Missed seeing Dave Thomas, Jaime, Mike Blevins, Coldie, et. al. > Where WERE you guys???? If you weren't there, you missed one heck of a > great night. Sorry..could not attend..was busy with my part time 2nd job. Pop Rocks only pays the bills...I need to save for Christmas now ;) I live vicariously thru you babe! ;) Glad you went..sounds like a killer show! Coldie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:57:59 -0700 From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: this can not be real Message-ID: <003801c34c0f$3d736920$message_id_removed> http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3D3586 but it's on mtv.com and metallica.com... ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:17:39 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: this can not be real Message-ID: welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll i think metallica really went a little too overboard this time..... gawd lars needs his damn head checked :) Laters, Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:27:05 -0700 From: Lisa Palma To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: this can not be real Message-ID: At 07:58 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: >http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3D3586 > >but it's on mtv.com and metallica.com... I'm not getting anything at that url, but I think I've found the article you're referring to: http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3586 .. and all I have to say is: OH. MY. GOD. ::::Lisa Marie Palma:::: :::::email_address_removed::::: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:23:22 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt" To: Subject: RE: this can not be real Message-ID: It's not. Try to find it on mtv.com or metallica.com, it's not there. Here's another shot at the url, http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3586 tk -----Original Message----- From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of TREVOR HOIT Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3D3586 but it's on mtv.com and metallica.com... ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:25:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: this can not be real Message-ID: You must mean this: http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3586 The two supposed statements (mtv.com and metallica.com) are hosted on a parody site. Amusing nonetheless. On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, TREVOR HOIT wrote: > > > http://www.411mania.com/music/news/article.php?news_id=3D3586 > > but it's on mtv.com and metallica.com... > ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:15:56 -0400 From: "Dan Costello" To: Subject: Matt Smith's St Anger Tribute Message-ID: Some of you guys have probably heard this by now, but if you haven't it's friggin hilarious: http://www.thelisteningsessions.com/mp3/MattSmith-St.AngerTribute.mp3 Enjoy! :-) -Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:58:27 -0400 From: "Dave Schott" To: Subject: Re: JP's wireless, Cleveland Tix & Baltimore setlist Message-ID: <007701c34c19$f13fa7c0$0200a8c0@Two> Agreed, I about shite my pants when it started. > they played metropolis AND UAGM?!?!?!? Dude, you suck! :-) They did the UAGM > solo in NJ, but that doesn't count. Those are 2 of 3 tunes I've never seen > live that I really want to. The other one is all of ACOS. I wouldn't mind > seeing Lifting Shadows off a Dream either. Other comments: yes NDV (Nick of Spock's) is touring with FW I dunno what happened to Mark. Also on the lines of FW, there was no Keyboards at all, and two guitarists (which I assume is not standard?) Speaking of Dream Theater technical flubs, did anyone notice that mister Portnoy was playing drumstick catch with one of the guys behind the soundboard? That was freaking hilarious! Also a couple of times his loogers came very close to Pertucci and or his board :-p I've lost a few more hairs... I think, I think I'm going bald. -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) email_address_removed http://www.bangarangband.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:24:43 -0400 From: "Dave Schott" To: Subject: Re: Dream Theater Pier Six Baltimore MD Message-ID: <010601c34c1b$64891800$0200a8c0@Two> Two other things I forgot to mention. I am now fairly certian the OSI song they played (the one with Nick on vox) was Head, not whatever I said it was before, anyone care to confirm or deny? Also all I can say is HELL YES MIKE PORTNOY IN A FRANK ZAPPA SHIRT! I've lost a few more hairs... I think, I think I'm going bald. -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) email_address_removed http://www.bangarangband.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:49:48 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: this can not be real Message-ID: --=======7E2E6AD3====== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-14B12623; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Idownloaded the band in question's demos and they sound nothing like Metalica, so fuck Metalica and their shitty sounding new album with horrible lyrics. At 11:28 PM 7/16/2003, you wrote: >welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll > >i think metallica really went a little too overboard this time..... gawd lars >needs his damn head checked :) > >Laters, > Andrew -- Damon Fibraio, email email_address_removed Musician, broadcaster, computer technician, and troublemaker aol instant messenger screenname: dfibraio MSN Messenger screenname: email_address_removed Band site: Visions: http://www.visions692000.com: Personal web site: http://www.damonfibraio.com Listen to no Holds Barred Radio. 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