YTSEJAM Digest 6514 Today's Topics: 1) Re: James LaBrie's Bday by "Bill Huston" 2) FC: RIAA to P2P users: the gloves are coming off by email_address_removed (Steve Chew) 3) DT/QR/FW Tour Dates by Ryan P Skadberg 4) Re: James LaBrie's Bday by Mike Shetzer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:18:40 -0600 From: "Bill Huston" To: Subject: Re: James LaBrie's Bday Message-ID: <002c01c2fd21$5bcffa60$2a479e40@huston> Well, My info came from a weekly newsletter I get from Musician's Friend and that's what I stated it from. I didn't do research as I didn't think they would give bad info. Sorry, my bad. But hey, one thing we know for sure-Mike's bday is April 20th (4 20 ;->). Anyone know how old he'll be. Wilmo > Er...actually James LaBrie's birthday is the 5th of MAY, and he will be 40 > this year > > > > > < > < > <.to wish James Happy Birthday April 5th. But you know that already ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:36:28 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FC: RIAA to P2P users: the gloves are coming off Message-ID: This is rather long, but I think people on this list might be interested. Steve --- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:52:16 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall To: Dave Farber , Declan McCullagh Subject: chron of higher ed: riaa lawsuits Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN [Dave, Declan: this appears to be the first lawsuit against students directly. And the RIAA seems to have royally pissed off the universities as well. The damages seem to be large:"The lawsuits ask for $150,000 for each of the dozens of recordings, listed by title in the complaint, that the students allegedly used illegally."] Friday, April 4, 2003 http://chronicle.com/free/2003/04/2003040401t.htm Recording Industry Sues 4 Students for Allegedly Trading Songs Within College Networks By SCOTT CARLSON The Recording Industry Association of America filed lawsuits on Thursday against four college students who allegedly were offering access to copyrighted music files within their institutions' networks. Joseph Nievelt, a student at Michigan Technological University; Daniel Peng, a student at Princeton University; and Aaron Sherman and Jesse Jordan, both students at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, were named in separate suits filed in federal district courts in Michigan, New Jersey, and New York. The institutions were not sued. According to the complaints, the students have "taken a network created for higher learning and academic pursuits and converted it into an emporium of music piracy." In a news release, the recording industry alleges that the students were engaging in copyright infringement, each offering from 27,000 to more than a million songs to other students. The lawsuits ask for $150,000 for each of the dozens of recordings, listed by title in the complaint, that the students allegedly used illegally. The students could not be reached for comment. Bob Gilreath, the telecommunications engineer at Michigan Tech, was shocked and angered by the lawsuits. His university has a long record of cooperating with the recording industry, he said. The institution runs copyright-education programs and routinely shuts down the Internet access of students who share copyrighted material. He said that the recording industry had never notified the university about Mr. Nievelt's alleged infringement. "We have had this relationship with them for years, and for them to come in and do what they are doing here -- taking a different route without going through our channels -- is basically flabbergasting," he said. He added that the lawsuits will "send the wrong message to colleges and universities" that are trying to help the recording industry stop file sharing. "In these tight budget situations, [colleges] are going to say, Why should we spend time and money on this when they are going to go ahead and sue anyway?" Officials at Princeton offered similar complaints. "We have been very responsible in terms of not allowing illegal sharing on campus," said Lauren Robinson-Brown, the university's director of communications. "We have a procedure, and it would be encouraging if that procedure is followed." At all three institutions, the students named in the lawsuits could face disciplinary hearings. The action by the recording industry differs slightly from the organization's past complaints about programs like KaZaA, which allow users to share files internationally. The new lawsuits are aimed at users of file-sharing programs that limit searches and users to computers within a specific network. A student user of such a program might be able to swap songs or videos only with other students on a college's residential network, for example. One such program, Phynd, has operated not only at RPI, but also at the University of Connecticut and the University of Maryland at College Park. Cary Sherman, president of the recording-industry association, did not respond to calls from The Chronicle. But in a letter mailed on Thursday to Graham B. Spanier, president of Pennsylvania State University at University Park, Mr. Sherman complained that "as Internet bandwidth becomes increasingly congested and slows to a crawl, students are likely to turn to on-campus systems instead." .. --- From: "Danny Yavuzkurt" To: Subject: RIAA to P2P users: the gloves are coming off Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:30:53 -0500 Again, you've probably seen this already - but it's worth a shot, nonetheless. The RIAA has finally done what everyone was predicting they'd do - they've picked a few scapegoats to blame the P2P 'problem' on, and they're suing them within an inch of their lives. Four college students, to be precise. From good schools, too - two from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, one from Princeton, and one from Michigan Technical. For $150,000 per 'violation'. Oh, and don't forget about the potential jail time.. since the NET act makes it possible, if the 'value' of the 'stolen' goods is over $1000... and I'm sure they'll claim it is, since the article quotes 'millions of songs'. What's also interesting here is that they're being charged with distributing the songs not over the Internet in general, but over the internal university networks, using Phynd, FlatLAN, or Direct Connect (www.neomodus.com). The universities don't usually crack down on these services because they don't affect the outgoing or incoming bandwidth from their Internet point of presence (which they have to pay for). I know many people personally who use Direct Connect on the PSU campus (remember that letter Leto sent you a few days back, sent to all the PSU students?..) - so, this represents a significant change from trying to kill not only the 'main' P2P services like Kazaa and Grokster, which operate on the Internet at large, but also anyone who wants to swap files with others, even over a LAN.. -Danny Note: There's also a big discussion about this on Slashdot (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/03/2312220) Article text: (Sorry this isn't formatted more pleasingly, but Outlook Express has developed this nasty habit of crashing whenever I try to add return characters to large blocks of text. I'm moving to Eudora.) http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/5558442.htm Posted on Fri, Apr. 04, 2003 Students accused of piracy RECORD SUIT SEEKS $150,000 PER SONG By Dawn C. Chmielewski Mercury News The recording industry filed copyright infringement lawsuits Thursday against four college students, accusing them of setting up Napster-like file-swapping services on their campus networks. The civil suits claim the students exploited academic resources to illicitly trade as many as a million songs without permission from record labels or artists. Then, they publicly bragged about their exploits. ``This is a particularly flagrant way to illegally distribute millions of copyrighted works over the Internet,'' said Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America, the industry's trade association. The students operated ``a sophisticated network designed to enable widespread thievery,'' he said. The recording industry telegraphed its campus crackdown in October putting 2,300 university administrators on notice to curb student behavior -- or face legal consequences. Major universities, including Stanford and Pennsylvania State, responded with tough new computer use policies, treating music and movie downloads with the same seriousness as other intellectual property crimes, such as plagiarism. In November, the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., went so far as to seize the computers of 100 midshipmen accused of possessing pirated music. .. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH evening reception in New York City at 7 pm, April 1, 2003 at CFP: http://www.politechbot.com/events/cfp2003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Steve Chew - email_address_removed - http://www.interzone.com "I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right." -- Henry David Thoreau "Civil Disobedience" ============================================ ------------------------------ Date: 07 Apr 2003 17:46:07 -0400 From: Ryan P Skadberg To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: DT/QR/FW Tour Dates Message-ID: Here's the current list of dates, just in case anyone was wondering. I've been doing a good job of keeping dreamt.org up to date when they are added. Skadz Day Date City Venue On Sale Fri 06/27/2003 Orlando, FL House Of Blues TBA Sat 06/28/2003 Pompano Beach, FL Pompano Beach Amphitheater TBA Sun 06/29/2003 Tampa Bay, FL Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center TBA Sat 07/05/2003 Montreal, Quebec Verdun Auditorium TBA Tues 07/08/2003 Wallingford, CT Oakdale Theater TBA Thu 07/10/2003 Holmdel, NJ PNC Bank Art Center TBA Fri 07/11/2003 Wantagh, NY Jones Beach TBA Sat 07/12/2003 Wilmington, DE Kahuna Summerstage TBA Thu 07/17/2003 Detroit, MI DTE Energy Music Theatre TBA Thu 07/22/2003 Denver, CO Universal Lending Pavillion TBA Thu 07/24/2003 Los Angeles, CA Universal Ampitheatre TBA Fri 07/25/2003 San Diego, CA Humphreys Concerts By the Bay 04/05/2003 10:00AM Sat 07/26/2003 Concord, CA Chronicle Pavilion TBA Sun 07/27/2003 Sacramento, CA The Cove TBA -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan P Skadberg E: email_address_removed Ytsejam Moderator U: http://www.dreamt.org/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG fingerprint = 0B97 F771 E7D2 69B2 FF5C 5693 4E25 7E77 DEF0 CA4B ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 18:11:57 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: James LaBrie's Bday Message-ID: <005601c2fd52$b4ac6de0$9b00a8c0@SHETZ> --Boundary_(ID_W7HZKOFvDRAU5ms8iBMqbQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey, my bday isn't 4 20! but it damn well should :P MP's turning 35ish I believe... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Huston To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: Re: James LaBrie's Bday Well, My info came from a weekly newsletter I get from Musician's Friend and that's what I stated it from. I didn't do research as I didn't think they would give bad info. Sorry, my bad. But hey, one thing we know for sure-Mike's bday is April 20th (4 20 ;->). Anyone know how old he'll be. Wilmo > Er...actually James LaBrie's birthday is the 5th of MAY, and he will be 40 > this year > > > > > < > < > <.to wish James Happy Birthday April 5th. But you know that already ;-) --Boundary_(ID_W7HZKOFvDRAU5ms8iBMqbQ) ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 6514 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === More information at: http://www.dreamt.org/local/ytsejam.php === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===