YTSEJAM Digest 6469 Today's Topics: 1) Queensryche by "Dale Newberry" 2) Re: terry bozio? by "Ivan Navarro" 3) Various replies by "Alexis Ramos" 4) DeGarmo back with QR?!?! by "Dominic H. Kallas" 5) Re: Queensryche by "Everonn" 6) Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! by Coldfire 7) Mike Bahr Lives by Graham Boyle 8) drummers by "TREVOR HOIT" 9) Re: Mike Bahr Lives by Andrew Coutermarsh 10) Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! by Mike Shetzer 11) Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! by Coldfire 12) Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! by wrath 13) Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! by Rick Audet 14) Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! by Mike Shetzer 15) NEW Bootleg CDs by "Alexandro Talamini" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:09:03 -0600 From: "Dale Newberry" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Queensryche Message-ID: Been quite some time since I've posted. I still read the jam every day (I've especially been interested in the recent Devin Townsend thread. I hope to get a CD or two of his sometime soon), bu just don't post like I did several years ago. Anyway, potentially grteat news about Chris Degarmo working with Queensryche again. Can't wait to hear what comes of that. I also have a question for anyone who might know. I have a Queensryche box set that a friend of mine gave to me a few years ago. I'm not necessarily planning on selling it, but am curious as to what it might be worth since I've never seen it anywhere else. It's called "Operation Empire." It comes in a box about the size of a 33 LP. It's limited edition (mine is numbered 0137 out of 1,000) and contains a special edition of the Empire CD (same music, with limited edition pop-up cover), 3 CD singles/Maxi-CDs for Jet City Woman, Silent Lucidity, and Empire, a metal pin with the ryche logo, a metal necklace with the same logo, and a limited edition Empire t-shirt. The set I have is in near mint condition (the box shows very slight wear, but the contents are near perfect). Anyway, has anyone out there heard of or seen this set anywhere, and if so, how much would it be worth? Thanks. Dale R. Newberry _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:19:46 -0500 From: "Ivan Navarro" To: Subject: Re: terry bozio? Message-ID: <001601c2d904$445edf40$76035a8c@OPS113110> Daniel, Bag the HTML Man! This is THE recommendation for Bozio - "Danger Money" by U.K. Features Eddy Jobson (Violin/Keys), John Wetton (Bass/Vocals), Terry Bozio (Drums) He did awesome stuff for Zappa too, which I believe is how he came to fame in the first place. Of course you could also go for his stuff w/ Missing Persons, lol ;-) I-Man > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:40:29 -0800 > From: "Daniel Mikkola" > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: terry bozzio? > Message-ID: > >

is there anybody out there that is into or knows a bit about terry bozzio. is there any albums that you prefer? thanks ,daniel

>

also on that note, Mike Portnoy is my favorite drummer, im just trying to broaden my horizons with othergood drummers and good cd's that have a lot of cool drumming.thanks again


Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:03:49 -0400 From: "Alexis Ramos" To: Subject: Various replies Message-ID: Hello! Here are various replies about a variety of topics: Terry Bozzio - I love Terry Bozzio's drumming. His style is so fresh, so loose, so melodic. He has played in a lot of bands and has a lot of recordings out, of which I only have a limited few. Here are the ones I recommend you get: Explorers Club (both of the cds), Vai - Sex and Religion (with Devin Townsend on vocals), Bozzio Levin Stevens - Situation Dangerous. I have an album called Polytown (Mick Karn, David Torn and Bozzio) which is ok, but I wouldn't say it's great. It's too calm and laid back for my tastes. I also have his cd with Billy Sheehan - 9 Short Films, which I haven't listened to yet. If you want to learn about other amazing drummers, try getting your hands on stuff by the following bands: Planet X (Virgil Donati is unbelievable), Attention Deficit and Primus up to "Tales from the Punchbowl" (Tim Alexander, ex-drummer for Primus), Dixie Dregs (Rod Morgenstein), Fates Warning (Mark Zonder), CAB and Niacin (Dennis Chambers), Nick D'Virgilio (Spock's Bear! d), Dave Weckl Band (Dave Weckl), Gordian Knot (Sean Reinert, mostly), Rush (Neil Peart), Symphony X (Jason Rullo), Ark (John Macaluso sp?), Pain of Salvation (don't know the drummer's name). There's a lot more that are insane as well, but I think you have plenty to work on right there. Once you listen to drummers like Donati and Bozzio, there's a chance Portnoy could be displaced on your favorite drummer position. Portnoy is great, no doubt about it, but there are some beasts out there that are just unreal... New Queensryche - I think it's pretty weird that some Queensryche fans are going crazy over the fact that DeGarmo is returning to the band. If I remember correctly, when Hear in the New Frontier came out and everybody almost unanimously said the album sucked, many Queensryche followers blamed that album on DeGarmo, and were optimistic about a better direction after he left. It seems like now they're expecting his return to revitalize the band and their sound. Quite ironic. Spock's Beard - Well, SB is back in the studio. I think SB without Neal will still sound great. After listening to Ryo Okumoto's solo album (which is very good), and considering the caliber of musicians that are still left on the band, there's still plenty of chops and creativity left in the band. Alexis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:06:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Dominic H. Kallas" To: The ytsejam mailing list Subject: DeGarmo back with QR?!?! Message-ID: While I am happy with the news that Chris DeGarmo has returned to record with QR, I wonder if the end result will be the sequel to 'Hear in the Now Frontier?' :-P Electronically, Dom From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: DEGARMO IN STUDIO WITH QUEENSRYCHE Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Matt Smith Here is the latest scoop straight from Queensryche's website: DEGARMO IN STUDIO WITH QUEENSRYCHE! Seattle, WA - Founding guitarist, Chris DeGarmo has rejoined his former bandmates at an undisclosed studio in the Seattle area. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:21:12 -0500 From: "Everonn" To: Subject: Re: Queensryche Message-ID: <001e01c2d90c$d96735d0$6401a8c0@dell81002k> I wouldn't know personally, but I know someone who has it..they tell me they paid $80 for theirs, and that they've seen the set sell for around $300. I don't know if that means you could get nearly that for it..that's just what I hear. I could refer you to a collector who'd have betting insight if you're really that interested and would like something more concrete. Personally (as a huge QR fan), I don't see how it's worth all that much, but that's me. I'm not a collector. - Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Newberry" > I've never seen it anywhere else. It's called "Operation Empire." [snip] > Anyway, has anyone out there heard of > or seen this set anywhere, and if so, how much would it be worth? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:55:01 -0500 From: Coldfire To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! Message-ID: hey all! Long time fan of the band EVENT even back when they were Mystic Fishook. I may be one of the few here who LOVED their last CD Human Condition and so I was very eager to hear their latest release. "Scratching at the Surface" arrived very late yesterday (Damn snow) and I got a chance to start spinning this this morning. So far I'm in love. This is amazing...more raw, earthier, heavy, funk splashed all over this. Jay's Bass is smokin...Shaun is continuing to amaze on the Guitar...Dave's Vocals are as usual top notch Matt keeps on showing us amazing chops. Why aren't more people raving over his drumming? Tight, groovin. This is not your typical prog metal..don't even categorize this. This is so unqiue...slammin...crossing boundaries...melding..blending...bending..creating whole new types....this CD defies labeling. these guys are young...their musical hunger shows in their voices...their lyrics comment more on thoughts and observation both inner and outer selves. each release from this band has explored and blended new directions truly progressive but refusing to be placed squarely in a specific progressive music genre. Bravo EVENT you have done it again! Lot's more listens before I write this up indepth for VRI And EVENT...next time yer back in VA....dinner at my place! Coldie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:21:26 +0000 From: Graham Boyle To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mike Bahr Lives Message-ID: Yes Mike Bahr lives and is alive and well. For those who haven't been around to know who he is, please don't ask it will only open a big can of ugly worms. I don't think he has posted here, but, he has posted on mp.com forum regarding any oustanding Prism Records orders. If he still owes you any CD's, he has offered to fullfill these orders. His offer seems to be genuine, I have emailed him about stuff he owes me and has responded quite quickly and he says I'll get my stuff next month. Michael Bahr -- Best regards, Graham mailto:email_address_removed.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:25:32 -0800 From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: Subject: drummers Message-ID: <003b01c2d915$d5bbf200$message_id_removed> >also on that note, Mike Portnoy is my favorite drummer, im just trying to broaden my horizons with othergood drummers >and good cd's that have a lot of cool drumming.thanks again I'd suggest Virgil Donati on Planet X's "Moonbabies" and "Live From Oz". He's got some solo cd's too but I don't have any. He's incredible live!! Trevor ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Mike Bahr Lives Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Graham Boyle wrote: > His offer seems to be genuine, I have emailed him about stuff he owes me > and has responded quite quickly and he says I'll get my stuff next > month. His offer is, indeed, genuine. He has filled a number of others' orders as well, and has given a HUGE amount of stuff from his own (rather enormous) collection of stuff--extreme rarities, as I understand it--to help to make amends for his past doings. He really wants to make this better, as I see it. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh - http://www.acvox.com/ email_address_removed ------------------------------------------------- "It isn't pollution that's harming the environ- ment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." - Dan Quayle ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:50:50 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! Message-ID: <001e01c2d93a$e5c1d050$9b00a8c0@SHETZ> --Boundary_(ID_osP7dnfPx3ruk7GBTX5zqQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Did you hear their first album? MUCH more progressive, complex and in your face. I like it much better. Hard to find though, its called Electric Skies... ----- Original Message ----- From: Coldfire To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:50 PM Subject: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! hey all! Long time fan of the band EVENT even back when they were Mystic Fishook. I may be one of the few here who LOVED their last CD Human Condition and so I was very eager to hear their latest release. "Scratching at the Surface" arrived very late yesterday (Damn snow) and I got a chance to start spinning this this morning. So far I'm in love. This is amazing...more raw, earthier, heavy, funk splashed all over this. Jay's Bass is smokin...Shaun is continuing to amaze on the Guitar...Dave's Vocals are as usual top notch Matt keeps on showing us amazing chops. Why aren't more people raving over his drumming? Tight, groovin. This is not your typical prog metal..don't even categorize this. This is so unqiue...slammin...crossing boundaries...melding..blending...bending..creating whole new types....this CD defies labeling. these guys are young...their musical hunger shows in their voices...their lyrics comment more on thoughts and observation both inner and outer selves. each release from this band has explored and blended new directions truly progressive but refusing to be placed squarely in a specific progressive music genre. Bravo EVENT you have done it again! Lot's more listens before I write this up indepth for VRI And EVENT...next time yer back in VA....dinner at my place! Coldie --Boundary_(ID_osP7dnfPx3ruk7GBTX5zqQ) ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:16:11 -0500 From: Coldfire To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! Message-ID: I actually have 2 copies of that CD. Once as Mystic Fishook and another as EVENT...same cd. and the MF one is signed...or was that the Event version....I've been a fan a long long time..since my copy was given to me in SF :) Coldie Mike Shetzer wrote: > > --Boundary_(ID_osP7dnfPx3ruk7GBTX5zqQ) > Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Did you hear their first album? MUCH more progressive, complex and in your face. I like it much better. Hard to find though, its called Electric Skies... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Coldfire > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:50 PM > Subject: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! > > hey all! > > Long time fan of the band EVENT even back when they were Mystic Fishook. > > I may be one of the few here who LOVED their last CD Human Condition and > so I was very eager to hear their latest release. "Scratching at the > Surface" arrived very late yesterday (Damn snow) and I got a chance to > start spinning this this morning. So far I'm in love. This is > amazing...more raw, earthier, heavy, funk splashed all over this. > Jay's Bass is smokin...Shaun is continuing to amaze on the > Guitar...Dave's Vocals are as usual top notch Matt keeps on showing us > amazing chops. Why aren't more people raving over his drumming? Tight, > groovin. > > This is not your typical prog metal..don't even categorize this. This > is so unqiue...slammin...crossing > boundaries...melding..blending...bending..creating whole new > types....this CD defies labeling. > > these guys are young...their musical hunger shows in their > voices...their lyrics comment more on thoughts and observation both > inner and outer selves. each release from this band has explored and > blended new directions truly progressive but refusing to be placed > squarely in a specific progressive music genre. > > Bravo EVENT you have done it again! Lot's more listens before I write > this up indepth for VRI > > And EVENT...next time yer back in VA....dinner at my place! > > Coldie > > --Boundary_(ID_osP7dnfPx3ruk7GBTX5zqQ) > ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:30:48 -0500 From: wrath To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! Message-ID: My copy says Mystic Fishook on the cover. Does that make me old? Mike Shetzer wrote: > --Boundary_(ID_osP7dnfPx3ruk7GBTX5zqQ) > Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Did you hear their first album? MUCH more progressive, complex and in your face. I like it much better. Hard to find though, its called Electric Skies... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:53:56 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! Message-ID: Hi. The version released under the name EVENT has one more track than the Mystic Fishook version called "Perfect Illusion - Mirror Image" and some versions of that CD also contain a so-called remix version of that instrumental track whose name escapes me, as I left the CD at home today. And I think that along side Pain Of Salvation, EVENT is quite possibly the most innovative band out there right now. Rick Audet San Francisco On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Coldfire wrote: > I actually have 2 copies of that CD. Once as Mystic Fishook and another > as EVENT...same cd. and the MF one is signed...or was that the Event > version....I've been a fan a long long time..since my copy was given to > me in SF :) > > > Coldie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:11:16 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! Message-ID: <001501c2d94e$842af740$9b00a8c0@SHETZ> --Boundary_(ID_tLeIzXqegp3/c8ZIOQZJlw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The guitarist proves on Electric Skies that he just rips apart the floor with his licks. Take the two instrumental tracks for example. That Shaun sure knows how to play!! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Ytsejam Alumnus! EVENT! Hi. The version released under the name EVENT has one more track than the Mystic Fishook version called "Perfect Illusion - Mirror Image" and some versions of that CD also contain a so-called remix version of that instrumental track whose name escapes me, as I left the CD at home today. And I think that along side Pain Of Salvation, EVENT is quite possibly the most innovative band out there right now. Rick Audet San Francisco On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Coldfire wrote: > I actually have 2 copies of that CD. Once as Mystic Fishook and another > as EVENT...same cd. and the MF one is signed...or was that the Event > version....I've been a fan a long long time..since my copy was given to > me in SF :) > > > Coldie --Boundary_(ID_tLeIzXqegp3/c8ZIOQZJlw) ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:18:54 -0300 From: "Alexandro Talamini" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: NEW Bootleg CDs Message-ID: Hello Does anybody ever hear of some new silver bootlegs released recently?? I mean TRANSATLANTIC - MIKE'S SILVER HAMMER (2CD) and DT - ROTTERDAMNED(3CD). If so, please, let me know how they sound. thanks, Alex _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. http://messenger.msn.com.br ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 6469 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===