YTSEJAM Digest 6260 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Avantasia lineup; Satriani; Gordian Knot II by "Phil Carter" 2) Satriani, OSI by "Alexis Ramos" 3) Majesty's mp3 by "andre vieira" 4) Re: Tool-ish by email_address_removed (Steve Chew) 5) RE: Majesty's mp3 by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 6) Milwaukee show by "Al @ Switchcraft" 7) Preogresive Geeks by colt seaver 8) RE: Milwaukee show by "Todd O. Klindt" 9) Re: Gordian Knot by "Mike Shetzer" 10) Re: Tool-ish by "Mike Shetzer" 11) Joe Satriani Autograph Signing in Los Angeles by email_address_removed 12) Re: Avantasia by Matt Smith 13) Re: Satriani by Eric George 14) Re: Satriani by "Kez" 15) Re: Tool-ish/Earshot by "Rob P" 16) Re: Tool-ish/Earshot by "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" 17) RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... by "Sakkos Nikolaos" 18) Geoff Tate show by "Chris Sparks" 19) RE: Tool-ish - hold the drama by "Sakkos Nikolaos" 20) Re: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... by "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:52:40 -0400 From: "Phil Carter" To: Scenes From a Ytse Subject: Re: Avantasia lineup; Satriani; Gordian Knot II Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... Me: >PC> Michael Kiske doesn't appear on the first Avantasia disc, unless you >PC> know something I don't. Gaz, in reply: >He does and his voice is very easy to tell. >He sings on quite a few songs under the guise of 'Ernie'. >He didn't want his proper name mentioned because of his dislike for >metal these days. Apparently *several* people know something I don't. :) Oddly enough, I kept thinking I heard Kiske influences here and there on the disc but figured it was just Toby imitating him. I guess I was wrong. Severely wrong. :) >Nope take a closer listen, in the booklet it says where he is singing >:) I need to look more closely, then. I've read the story a time or two but didn't go through most of the exhaustive credits list (who has time to read that stuff unless you're actually one of the people that's credited?). hehe > > hmmmm, interesting description. haven't heard the album myself as of yet, > > but i do have EVERY intention of getting it (have them all, save for > > "Flying In A Blue Dream"). > >Wow, you don't have FIABD? I consider that Satch's BEST CD. You may want >to correct that ASAP. I have to second Rick here. Even if I don't know my Avantasia (apparently), I *do* know my Satriani, and I think "Flying" is Satch's best disc. It certainly has some of his most memorable and best-written tunes. The thing that some people object to is the fact that Satch sings on the disc. >Does anybody know when the new album by Gordian Knot will be >released? The clips sounded good as hell, so I'm pretty anxious to know >when this baby will be delivered :-) Unfortunately, I just talked to Ken Golden about some other stuff and he says that the disc probably won't be released until January. They're just trying to finalize stuff with distributors and duplicators and the like and he says that November and December are pretty much blackout periods for releasing CDs. He is hoping to have some MP3s up from the disc pretty soon. cheers, Phil =============================================== Phil Carter -- phil (at) usefulware (dot) com -- 770-424-2525 ext. 207 Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs "I should never have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:13:52 -0400 From: "Alexis Ramos" To: Subject: Satriani, OSI Message-ID: To the guy who said he has every Satriani disc except for FIABD, I don't know if you have a specific reason for not owning that disc, but I have heard that many people say it's probably his best work. My situation is completely the opposite of yours, since the only Satriani album I have is FIABD. About OSI, could anyone post information regarding what the music is supposed to sound like? Where did you get that information about it sounding tool-ish? Please, don't send me a link to a webpage, since here at work I have email but can't access the internet (yet). Thanks in advance. By the way, what's the expected release date? Alexis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:15:51 +0000 From: "andre vieira" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Majesty's mp3 Message-ID:
  Could anybody give me a site adress where I can find mp3 from DT Majesty era?(both instrumental and with vocal). Thanks a lot!
PS: Please, DT in Brazil!!!!
Andri Vieira

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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Tool-ish Message-ID: > >Isn't anyone just a little bit disappointed that yet another >group is gonna sound "a bit tool-ish" ? I was expecting something >different from a line-up like that . As great as Tool is , it seems >that everything comes down to tool-tool-tool lately . Oh excuse me . >Tool - ish . > I wouldn't be disappointed if a band could actually pull it off. The problem is that while some bands might be able to have Tool-ish music they are lacking one thing: Maynard. He makes Tool, IMHO. Without him they'd just be a good alternative/prog-metal band. With him they are a musical force of nature. Very few bands have a singer who adds to the music like Maynard does. Steve P.S. Of all the alleged Tool-ish bands, Earshot comes the closest so far I think. They have good music and good vocals. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:48:14 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Majesty's mp3 Message-ID: Hello Andre. Any way to turn off that HTML in your posts ? As you can see below, it looks pretty bad :) -----Original Message----- From: andre vieira [mailto:email_address_removed
  Could anybody give me a site adress where I can find mp3 from DT Majesty era?(both instrumental and with vocal). Thanks a lot!
PS: Please, DT in Brazil!!!!
Andri Vieira

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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:46:53 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Milwaukee show Message-ID: >I'm going to be catching the Milwaukee show. I'm pretty stoked to see >Mr. Satriani in concert. I've seen DT six or seven times, so that's a >little less exciting. >Anyone else going to the Milwaukee show? Al? Hey Todd! I'm certainly thinking about a road trip to Milwaukee. I'll have to chat with the Warden and a few other friends and see who is game. I suspect there is a 75% chance that my usual gang and I will make that show. You bringing that cute girlfriend along for the fun? Perhaps I can distract you and the Warden for a while and put the ProGtologist moves on that sweet and innocent young morsel. :o) I'll make sure and pack 5 pounds of corn starch and a pair of mouse ears just in case... -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: colt seaver To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Preogresive Geeks Message-ID: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:14:49 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt" To: Subject: RE: Milwaukee show Message-ID: <015c01c22ea0$26d39240$message_id_removed> Al, I'm dragging Jill along. Actually she's pretty excited to see Joe Satriani, but that's before she knew YOU might be there. Now she's just gonna be excited to see you. You'll have to get the crew and come up. We're heading up on Tuesday (maybe Monday) and staying overnight. Any good concerts in the future up north? We haven't been up there in a while. tk -----Original Message----- From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of Al @ Switchcraft Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Milwaukee show >I'm going to be catching the Milwaukee show. I'm pretty stoked to see >Mr. Satriani in concert. I've seen DT six or seven times, so that's a >little less exciting. >Anyone else going to the Milwaukee show? Al? Hey Todd! I'm certainly thinking about a road trip to Milwaukee. I'll have to chat with the Warden and a few other friends and see who is game. I suspect there is a 75% chance that my usual gang and I will make that show. You bringing that cute girlfriend along for the fun? Perhaps I can distract you and the Warden for a while and put the ProGtologist moves on that sweet and innocent young morsel. :o) I'll make sure and pack 5 pounds of corn starch and a pair of mouse ears just in case... -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:56:45 -0400 From: "Mike Shetzer" To: Subject: Re: Gordian Knot Message-ID: <004f01c22ea6$026de300$ece0ca18@user> I agree. =) Maybe its like the new spastic ink, it will be released "when its done". m.S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexis Ramos" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Gordian Knot > Does anybody know when the new album by Gordian Knot will be released? The clips sounded good as hell, so I'm pretty anxious to know when this baby will be delivered :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:02:45 -0400 From: "Mike Shetzer" To: Subject: Re: Tool-ish Message-ID: <009001c22ea6$e659f860$ece0ca18@user> I agree with that much. Maynard has one of the best voices out there. However, I think Carey's incredulous drumming abilities adds a lot to the band as well. =) m.S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Chew" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Tool-ish > > > >Isn't anyone just a little bit disappointed that yet another > >group is gonna sound "a bit tool-ish" ? I was expecting something > >different from a line-up like that . As great as Tool is , it seems > >that everything comes down to tool-tool-tool lately . Oh excuse me . > >Tool - ish . > > > > I wouldn't be disappointed if a band could actually pull it off. > The problem is that while some bands might be able to have Tool-ish > music they are lacking one thing: Maynard. He makes Tool, IMHO. Without > him they'd just be a good alternative/prog-metal band. With him they > are a musical force of nature. Very few bands have a singer who adds > to the music like Maynard does. > > Steve > > P.S. Of all the alleged Tool-ish bands, Earshot comes the closest so far > I think. They have good music and good vocals. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:09:07 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Joe Satriani Autograph Signing in Los Angeles Message-ID: For anyone interested, Joe Satriani will be doing an autograph signing at the Wherehouse Music store on Sunset & Labrea (7127 W. Sunset Blvd) in Los Angeles on August 10 (the day of the DT/Satch LA show). It will be from 1-3pm and he will be signing and giving away an Ibanez guitar at the conclusion. See you there and/or see you at the Greek Theater that night!! -Kyle Most Anticipated Release of 2002: Orchestra of Strategic Influence!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:33:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Smith To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Avantasia Message-ID: Phil: >Michael Kiske doesn't appear on the first Avantasia disc, unless you know >something I don't. Are you talking about the second to-be-released one? I >haven't yet seen a lineup for that. Jax: Kiske appears on the first cd as "Ernie", I'm told (I don't know his voice well enough to be sure myself, but have been assured by more than one person that "Ernie" is Kiske). > Yup, that's true, and he'll be back for part two. Can't wait!! Matt Smith "My rig is an ever-evolving monster." email_address_removed -John Petrucci ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 02:47:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Satriani Message-ID: nope, sorry Kez, when i said the Sept.7th show, i meant the Sept.7th show in Pittsburgh. you're thinking of the 6th in Baltimore. guess that means i won't see you or I-man up here in the `Burgh on that saturday. oh well, win some-lose some, i guess. -eric On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Kez wrote: > > -eric > > > > P.S.- by the way, any Pittsburgh jammers going to the Sept.7th show?? any > > other jammers for that matter?? Kez, what about you bro? maybe we'll > > have better luck finding jammers than we did at the D.C. show!! drop a > > line, guys (& gals). > > > If you're referring to the Pier 6 show in Baltimore, I will most certainly > be there. Being on a Saturday, we really should have some sort of get > together. I know I-Man will also be there, as well as a few other locals. > Let's hook up somehow. > > Kez > > -- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough." -me IM screename: Ryften13 email_address_removed (text-based email) email_address_removed -or- email_address_removed (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:06:57 -0400 From: "Kez" To: Subject: Re: Satriani Message-ID: <005201c22f0c$04535b80$6401a8c0@amd14> ooops damn Maybe you should come down? :) Kez ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric George" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Satriani > nope, sorry Kez, when i said the Sept.7th show, i meant the Sept.7th show > in Pittsburgh. you're thinking of the 6th in Baltimore. guess that means > i won't see you or I-man up here in the `Burgh on that saturday. oh well, > win some-lose some, i guess. > > -eric > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Kez wrote: > > > > -eric > > > > > > P.S.- by the way, any Pittsburgh jammers going to the Sept.7th show?? any > > > other jammers for that matter?? Kez, what about you bro? maybe we'll > > > have better luck finding jammers than we did at the D.C. show!! drop a > > > line, guys (& gals). > > > > > > If you're referring to the Pier 6 show in Baltimore, I will most certainly > > be there. Being on a Saturday, we really should have some sort of get > > together. I know I-Man will also be there, as well as a few other locals. > > Let's hook up somehow. > > > > Kez > > > > > > -- > "The least important things in life > get the most appreciation. > The most important things in life > don't seem to get enough." > > -me > > IM screename: Ryften13 > email_address_removed (text-based email) > email_address_removed -or- > email_address_removed (HTML-based email) > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > Progressive Musician's Forum - > http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:24:23 -0400 From: "Rob P" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Tool-ish/Earshot Message-ID: Good call on the Earshot comment. To me they are like a missing link between Tool and A Perfect Circle. Good band. >From: email_address_removed (Steve Chew) >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Tool-ish >Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:31:34 -0700 (PDT) > > > > >Isn't anyone just a little bit disappointed that yet another > >group is gonna sound "a bit tool-ish" ? I was expecting something > >different from a line-up like that . As great as Tool is , it seems > >that everything comes down to tool-tool-tool lately . Oh excuse me . > >Tool - ish . > > > > I wouldn't be disappointed if a band could actually pull it off. >The problem is that while some bands might be able to have Tool-ish >music they are lacking one thing: Maynard. He makes Tool, IMHO. Without >him they'd just be a good alternative/prog-metal band. With him they >are a musical force of nature. Very few bands have a singer who adds >to the music like Maynard does. > > Steve > >P.S. Of all the alleged Tool-ish bands, Earshot comes the closest so far >I think. They have good music and good vocals. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:58:36 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" To: Subject: Re: Tool-ish/Earshot Message-ID: <001c01c22f34$c2f0a1b0$524c48d8@carlosbook> wow its refreshing to see a different opinion all the things ive seen written about earshot just call them a blatant tool ripoff, and granted ive only heard 1 song (get away? i believe its the title) but they do sound way too much like a tool clone, almost like an impersonation... any other songs i might want to check out to broaden my outlook on them? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob P" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Tool-ish/Earshot > Good call on the Earshot comment. To me they are like a missing link > between Tool and A Perfect Circle. Good band. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:06:39 +0300 From: "Sakkos Nikolaos" To: Subject: RE: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... >and to the original poster : what else has been labeled as tool-like? 1 >song on 6doit? wow! >would you rather the project was described as sounding LTE like or DT like >or "prog" like? >i usually hate it when a band describes an upcoming project naming another >band , it always >ends up creating misconceptions about how the music is going to be like... I was refering to the new Rush . And i do believe that whoever's tried to sound like Tool has made a fool out of themselves . I find it disappointing when great artists do no longer make the rules but follow them . cheers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:16:19 -0500 From: "Chris Sparks" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Geoff Tate show Message-ID: Go see it. Some minor spoilers included. We went to see Geoff at Steamboat in Austin last night. He was scheduled to go on at 9pm, but there were a couple of opening acts so he didn't start till around 11 and finished a little after 1am (I'm getting too old for this :-) This was Geoff in storyteller mode. The mood was set with candles, lanterns, and incense all over the stage. They played some of their new stuff and Queensryche songs that didn't get much feature time on their tours (except for the overplayed Silent Lucidity). With the QR songs, he had remixed them. I really really liked what they did with them (especially The Thin Line). The band was really tight with a lot of energy, e.g. the bassist jamming with a broken pinky (?). go support this tour, it was fun! Chris ps. See y'all in Austin for the DT/KX/Satch show. np: Retarded Elf - Trick Quigger The Official Dream Theater Site - http://www.dreamtheater.net/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:32:23 +0300 From: "Sakkos Nikolaos" To: Subject: RE: Tool-ish - hold the drama Message-ID: >I was refering to the new Rush . And i do believe that whoever's tried to sound like Tool has >made a fool out of themselves . I find it disappointing when great artists do no longer make >the rules but follow them . Hm...that sound like a load of crap to me ... too bad i realised this about 3 seconds after pushing the "send" button . Anyway , i hope that jammers will miraculously forget about that last post as soon as they read it . Anyway , i'm a big fan of Tool , DT , Fates Warning and Kevin Moore . And the fact is that i've been listening to a lot of Tool the last couple of years . So when i heard about that supergroup line-up i was expecting of something new and different than what i'd been hearing lately . So now , a sub-conscious fear starts rising into surface , that all bands i like are gonna turn into one living blob that consumes everything in its path and the next day i'm gonna wake up next to one human sized squid . Oops,never mind ,another one of those sub-fear-conscious thingies. bye bye ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:37:58 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" To: Subject: Re: Matheos/Portnoy/Malone/Moore super-group project named.... Message-ID: <003601c22f3a$42eca990$524c48d8@carlosbook> what exactly in the new rush is tool like? wtf! please point me to a track # and min because i honestly cant hear it > > >and to the original poster : what else has been labeled as tool-like? 1 > >song on 6doit? wow! > >would you rather the project was described as sounding LTE like or DT like > >or "prog" like? > >i usually hate it when a band describes an upcoming project naming another > >band , it always > >ends up creating misconceptions about how the music is going to be like... > > > I was refering to the new Rush . And i do believe that whoever's tried to > sound like Tool has made a fool out of themselves . I find it disappointing > when great artists do no longer make the rules but follow them . > > > cheers > > ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 6260 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===