YTSEJAM Digest 6256 Today's Topics: 1) Re: 6Doit CD2=junk? by Michael & Pamela Nazer 2) Re: Dancing to Prog? by Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker 3) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, by Michael & Pamela Nazer 4) Why the new Satch is different by Mark Peters 5) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, by Dave Peterson 6) Re: Why the new Satch is different by Michael & Pamela Nazer 7) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, by Michael & Pamela Nazer 8) Re: Why the new Satch is different by Eric George 9) Re: New CDs by email_address_removed (Steve Chew) 10) Rumor Mill by email_address_removed 11) Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, Soilwork, DTranquillity, Meshuggah) by Graham Boyle 12) RE: Rumor Mill by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 13) RE: New CDs by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 14) RE: Why the new Satch is different by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 15) RE: Dancing to Prog? by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 16) RE: Rumor Mill by "Todd O. Klindt" 17) RE: Why the new Satch is different by Jax ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:30:07 -0500 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer To: Subject: Re: 6Doit CD2=junk? Message-ID: on 7/14/02 9:39 AM, Barry Gilpin at email_address_removed wrote: > Wow, I never thought I'd be the only one to post so far that I love both > discs, but for different reasons. I love the experimentation of disc 1 and > the sheer awesomeness of disc 2. > -G > email_address_removed > > I think they are great too!! my favorite is disc 2. I think the part that starts with the instrumental section of Goodnight kiss, than goes into Solitary shell and than the intro to About to crash(reprise) is perfection. I listen to that part over and over. Pam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:32:59 +0200 From: Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Dancing to Prog? Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020714181651.009fcec0@message_id_removed.de> >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:51:07 -0400 >From: "Scott (Virtuality)" >... >I can't imagine the choreography needed to form a respectable and rhythmic >dance to >music shifting in time signatures from 7/8 to 3/4 through 5/4 and back >into 11/8. It >would be prodigiously intricate, and furiously entertaining at the same time I've heard that the Parisian orchestra musicians who had the honor to first play Stravinsky's stuff had some interesting psychosomatic reactions from being stressed. Alas, I've heard nothing about the ballet guys who had to perform "Le sacre du printemps"... But then, there is dance in African, South and Southeast Asian musical cultures, too, which are amongst the polyrhythmically baddest on the surface of this Earth. Best, Heike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:34:36 -0500 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer To: Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, Message-ID: on 7/14/02 10:37 AM, Dave Peterson at email_address_removed wrote: > I'll correct myself before someone else does. > John Myung wrote all of 6DOIT'S CD2. > > Get a rope. > > - Dave Hey Dave, I'm confused, didn't Mike and JP write 1/2 each. Or were you joking? Pam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:42:10 -0500 From: Mark Peters To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Why the new Satch is different Message-ID: From: Dave Peterson > Can I people specify in more detail why they're really liking > Satriani's new CD, "Strange, Beautiful Music"? I really thought he > hasn't written anything original in a decade and would love to hear > that he's doing something different. Maybe he's been taking lessons > from his student, Mr. Vai. Well, he finally got good enough recording equipment at his home studio to make his own album. I read an interview with him where he said he felt more free to experiment since he never caught himself thinking "Damn! I just spent another $1500 on that guitar solo!" Of course, you still may not like the new album - it's still 13 Satriani instrumentals and a cover tune with Robert Fripp. I would definitely check out clips from the disc before you buy it, based on what you told me. Take care, Mark Peters email_address_removed PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:38:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Peterson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, Message-ID: I wasn't able to find the song credits on dreamtheater.net, so I tried CDNOW.com and saw that Myung is given credit for all of Disc 2. Obviously CDNow isn't the authority on who wrote what but I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. It's very possible that I'm wrong about this. Anyway, my point was only to get whomever is writing these corny lyrics (There's a girl on a hill, etc., etc.) to knock it off. IMHO, obviously. Come to think of it, it sounds right that JP and MP wrote CD2 of 6DOIT. Peace! - Dave (Dr. Teeth) --- Michael & Pamela Nazer wrote: > on 7/14/02 10:37 AM, Dave Peterson at email_address_removed wrote: > > > I'll correct myself before someone else does. > > John Myung wrote all of 6DOIT'S CD2. > > > > Get a rope. > > > > - Dave > Hey Dave, > I'm confused, didn't Mike and JP write 1/2 each. Or were you joking? > > Pam > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:21:48 -0500 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer To: Subject: Re: Why the new Satch is different Message-ID: > > Take care, > Mark Peters > email_address_removed > > PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in > ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange. > > Hey :) I am in ack and I love disc 2! Pam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:44:09 -0500 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer To: Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, Message-ID: on 7/14/02 2:38 PM, Dave Peterson at email_address_removed wrote: > I wasn't able to find the song credits on dreamtheater.net, so I tried > CDNOW.com and saw that Myung is given credit for all of Disc 2. > Obviously CDNow isn't the authority on who wrote what but I thought I'd > give them the benefit of the doubt. > > It's very possible that I'm wrong about this. Anyway, my point was > only to get whomever is writing these corny lyrics (There's a girl on a > hill, etc., etc.) to knock it off. IMHO, obviously. > > Come to think of it, it sounds right that JP and MP wrote CD2 of 6DOIT. > > Peace! > > - Dave (Dr. Teeth) > > --- Michael & Pamela Nazer wrote: >> on 7/14/02 10:37 AM, Dave Peterson at email_address_removed wrote: >> >>> I'll correct myself before someone else does. >>> John Myung wrote all of 6DOIT'S CD2. >>> >>> Get a rope. >>> >>> - Dave >> Hey Dave, >> I'm confused, didn't Mike and JP write 1/2 each. Or were you joking? >> >> Pam >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com > This is straight from the cd booklet, Lyrics for About to Crash, Solitary Shell, Losing Time, are by JP War inside my Head, The test that stumped them all, Goodnight Kiss are by Mike. Pam "Hi" John Myung, 8/23/1998 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:51:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Why the new Satch is different Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Michael & Pamela Nazer wrote: > > PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in > > ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange. > > > > > Hey :) > > I am in ack and I love disc 2! > > Pam Hey :) I second that!!! Ack mode, & lovin' disc 2!!! -eric -- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough." -me IM screename: Ryften13 email_address_removed (text-based email) email_address_removed -or- email_address_removed (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:06:36 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New CDs Message-ID: Vince wrote: > > I've been off the jam for about 3 years or so, and just re-subscribed. >I was wondering what any of you would recommend for new CDs that have come >out in the last year or two. My tastes are like Symphony X, Strato, >Pantera, Awake-era Dream Theater, Metallica, etc. Any info is appreciated. > I'd highly recommend Superior's latest CD, Ultima Ratio. It has some parts that remind me to Awake-era DT. Visit www.meet-superior.de to sample and/or buy it. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 00:47:41 -0400 (EDT) From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Rumor Mill Message-ID: Hey Jammers, I recently heard a couple of rumors and was wondering if anyone has some info ----- First Al Pitrelli and Marty Friedman are getting some stuff together and secondly I heard Yngwie Malmsteen and Kevin Moore are collaborating ???? That's kind of an odd couple but hey could be interesting. Also I have played the absolute hell out of Avantasia The Metal Opera since ordering it last summer, according to the liner notes part 2 should have been out already but I haven't seen or heard anything. Anybody know what's up ? Am I just not looking in the right place ? Oh Yeah as to the 6DoiT thread I dig both CDs very much. I feel like it has some unique properties which illustrate that OFB are moving forward and not getting in a rut by trying to duplicate past bodies of work. Now if only Type O Negative would put something out ....... Have a Day Y'all Billy np Nosferatu DVD ( silent movie organ soundtracks kick ASS ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:25:02 +1000 From: Graham Boyle To: Dave Peterson Subject: Re: Best of 02 (6DOIT, Satch, Opeth, SX, Nightwish, DTownsend, Soilwork, DTranquillity, Meshuggah) Message-ID: DP> Regarding 6DOIT's CD2... Although it's still miles better than DP> anything off of WDADU or FII, as soon as I heard the lyrics talking DP> about another girl living on another house on another hill who's DP> mentally unstable and has a loving father that just doesn't know what DP> to do, I vomited in my own mouth. Are you serious ? 6DOIT cd2 better than bonafide DT classics like 'The Killing Hand' and 'Only A Matter Of Time' ? FII has some killer material too and I'd take those 2 albums anyday of the pile of shite which is disc 2. DP> GOD I hope the new Symphony X is something different. They have SOOO DP> fallen into a comfortable groove right now and it's getting tiresome. DP> Please guys, something different this time? Ditto with Nightwish - is DP> the new one different at all? How different can SX really be then ? I doubt if they can doing anything to different, I am not too fussed as long as the quality is good. New Nightwish, however is a little different to previous releases. Tarja's voice is a lot less operatic, the music is a little heavier, less fast songs, The most significant change is new bass player Marco Hietala, who is also a great singer and contributes to 4 songs, with some lead and backing vox. DP> Also, can someone give specifics about the new Dark Tranquillity? I'm DP> very interested in hearing what it's all about! Official release in Europe is next week, if you like their previous album, 'Haven', then you'll dig the new one. Pretty much similar in style. -- Best regards, Graham mailto:email_address_removed.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:47:38 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Rumor Mill Message-ID: Yeah, I read on the Metal Update not too long ago that The Metal Opera part 2 is completed and will be released soon. Hang in there!! I've also played the heck out of that CD. It's greatness. JM -----Original Message----- From: email_address_removed [mailto:email_address_removed I have played the absolute hell out of Avantasia The Metal Opera since ordering it last summer, according to the liner notes part 2 should have been out already but I haven't seen or heard anything. Anybody know what's up ? Am I just not looking in the right place ? Have a Day Y'all Billy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:07:25 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: New CDs Message-ID: Yep, and hang in there a few months... Symphony X will have their new CD released later this year. Check out Symphony X's official LIVE CD as well. Very tasty material ! Oh, and DT released a new one not too long ago, too ;) JM -----Original Message----- From: email_address_removed [mailto:email_address_removed Vince wrote: > > I've been off the jam for about 3 years or so, and just re-subscribed. >I was wondering what any of you would recommend for new CDs that have come >out in the last year or two. My tastes are like Symphony X, Strato, >Pantera, Awake-era Dream Theater, Metallica, etc. Any info is appreciated. > I'd highly recommend Superior's latest CD, Ultima Ratio. It has some parts that remind me to Awake-era DT. Visit www.meet-superior.de to sample and/or buy it. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:35:52 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Why the new Satch is different Message-ID: I third... I'm in single-message mode and CD2 rocks nadz.. JM -----Original Message----- From: Eric George [mailto:email_address_removed On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Michael & Pamela Nazer wrote: > > PS - It seems that the folks who don't like disc 2 of 6DoIT are all in > > ack mode, and the folks who do are in digest mode. Strange. > > > Hey :) > > I am in ack and I love disc 2! > > Pam Hey :) I second that!!! Ack mode, & lovin' disc 2!!! -eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:50:16 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Dancing to Prog? Message-ID: Bob your head up and down and "raise your fist and yell!" :) JM -----Original Message----- From: Scott (Virtuality) [mailto:email_address_removed I can't imagine the choreography needed to form a respectable and rhythmic dance to music shifting in time signatures from 7/8 to 3/4 through 5/4 and back into 11/8. It would be prodigiously intricate, and furiously entertaining at the same time, not to mention worthy of surpassing the infamy of the Lambada (The Lambada? Thats the Forbidden Dance=!). Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:54:54 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt" To: Subject: RE: Rumor Mill Message-ID: <005701c22c0f$948b8ba0$message_id_removed> Just posting to say I'm another guy that loves Avantasia. For those that like Avantasia, check out Edguy. Same guy at the helm. Very similar sounding. tk -----Original Message----- From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of Souter, Jan-Michael Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Rumor Mill Yeah, I read on the Metal Update not too long ago that The Metal Opera part 2 is completed and will be released soon. Hang in there!! I've also played the heck out of that CD. It's greatness. JM -----Original Message----- From: email_address_removed [mailto:email_address_removed I have played the absolute hell out of Avantasia The Metal Opera since ordering it last summer, according to the liner notes part 2 should have been out already but I haven't seen or heard anything. Anybody know what's up ? Am I just not looking in the right place ? Have a Day Y'all Billy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:06:27 -0500 From: Jax To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: Why the new Satch is different Message-ID: At 09:51 AM 7/15/02, Jan-Michael wrote: >I third... I'm in single-message mode and CD2 rocks nadz.. Add me to the 'in ack mode and loves disc two' group as well! Jax :) ___________________________________________________ Jax, Lady of the Oracle ~ DJ Jax on Ytseradio.com email_address_removed ~ email_address_removed "..once I reached for love, and now I reach for life.." Dream Theater - Learning to Live ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 6256 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===