YTSEJAM Digest 6253 Today's Topics: 1) Soilwork Comments by email_address_removed 2) KX, NIghtwish, Engine by "TREVOR HOIT" 3) Re: Best of 2002 (so far) by Metzger Mark 4) Re: King's X, which album? by "Zalozba Izolit" 5) Re: Best of 02 so far by Mark Peters 6) Re: King's X, which album? by Eric George 7) Re: Best of 02 so far by "Dr. Mosh" 8) Re: Best of 2002 (so far) by "Dr. Mosh" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:38:36 GMT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Soilwork Comments Message-ID: Kinda weird, this list is the only place I have ever seen negative comments on NBC. Everyone loves it ;) I think Soilwork finally has the ability to write good songs with catchy hooks, and not just death metal that sounds like every other band out of Gothenburg. Predators Portrait is just as good IMO. \m/ Kurt I MUST ORDER SUPERIOR, JESUS THOSE SOUND CLIPS ARE GOOD. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:47:33 -0700 From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: Subject: KX, NIghtwish, Engine Message-ID: <001f01c228f2$45f25020$message_id_removed> >Subject: King's X, which album? >If you were to suggest one King's X album to a fan going to see them Aug. >31, which one would you suggest20 Best of, Gretchen, Dogman or Ear Candy, definitely NOT the new one... They are great live, too, so don't worry about it... >From: Graham Boyle >1. Nightwish - Century Child When did this come out and where do I get it? Did they ever come out with a NTSC region 1/0 DVD? >7. Engine Superholic >No comment :) None here either. Well, ok. Not as good as the first one or any Fates material. IMO, sorry Doc. :) Trevor ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:46:46 -0400 From: Metzger Mark To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Best of 2002 (so far) Message-ID: 3. DT 6DOIT >> 1st is brilliant, 2nd I really think is close to their >> worst material ever. So well put. The Emperor has no clothes. Saw CD2 live on the last tour and it still left me unimpressed (seeing stuff live usually helps out a lot for me for reasons I cannot explain). I know that the side projects are probably what keeps these guys sane nowadays BUT it has to dilute all of the end products. Although few may admit it publicly, are there others like me who listen more to Mulymuzziler Two more than CD2 of 6DOIT ???? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 5. Vanden Plas Beyond Daylight >> One big yawn for me, they've made the same album >> again and are sounding generic and stale. >> This is the band that has lost their balls I think. Uuuuuggggghhhhh .... different opinions are healthy but I have loved VDP ever since the beginning. To me this is far and wide better than anything that they have ever done (more mature, still intense and oddly more accessible all at the same time). Charlie, feel free to admit that you are wrong at any time ... :) Marky Mark, who YEARNS for the new SX ....... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:06:43 +0200 From: "Zalozba Izolit" To: Subject: Re: King's X, which album? Message-ID: <003b01c228f4$f33bf7c0$0ad6fea9@PIII1GHZ> Chris wrote: If you were to suggest one King's X album to a fan going to see them Aug. 31, which one would you suggest? I just paid a high Canadian price for their latest, and while I can't say there's necessarily anything wrong with it, it didn't excite me at all either! I was hoping to have discovered another great band after hearing so many positive things about them over the years ... Is their latest release just a sleeper? Chris, underwhelmed and disappointed ------------- Chris, allow them and they'll suck you in like there's no tomorrow. I agree, their latest album wouldn't be my first choice to introduce KX to someone either. Go grab Dogman (their heaviest and genuinely angry album - they were pissed at their label) or Tapehead and I'm sure they'll blow your socks off. And while you'r at it, get their Greatest Hits, not a bad collection of their best songs at all. Welcome to the groove machine! Matej ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:47:16 -0500 From: Mark Peters To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Best of 02 so far Message-ID: > > 2. Soilwork Natural Born Choas > > One of the year's BIG disappointment's, too lightweight, smoochy and > > not enough balls. > > This is kinda true, if you compare it to their other stuff, but I think > the new stuff does have it's high-points. Less technical, more straightforward > and trying to be too melodic. I still prefer Steelbath Suicide Damn! I pick up a Soilwork CD (this one) last week after hearing lots of good things about them. I really like it. Now I hear it's a disappointment? I can't wait to hear the others. I picked out Natural Born Chaos over the other two because it says "Produced by Devin Townsend" on the back, btw. Thanks, Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:15:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: King's X, which album? Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Zalozba Izolit wrote: > Welcome to the groove machine! > Matej holy shit, Matej!!! there's a name i haven't seen grace any jams in quite sometime!! good to see you're still out there bud. nice salutation, by the way. peace. -eric -- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough." -me IM screename: Ryften13 email_address_removed (text-based email) email_address_removed -or- email_address_removed (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:29:50 -0700 From: "Dr. Mosh" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Best of 02 so far Message-ID: > > 2. Soilwork Natural Born Choas > > One of the year's BIG disappointment's, too lightweight, smoochy and > > not enough balls. > > This is kinda true, if you compare it to their other stuff, but I think > the new stuff does have it's high-points. Less technical, more straightforward > and trying to be too melodic. I still prefer Steelbath Suicide > Damn! I pick up a Soilwork CD (this one) last week after hearing lots of > good things about them. I really like it. Now I hear it's a > disappointment? I can't wait to hear the others. I picked out Natural > Born Chaos over the other two because it says "Produced by Devin > Townsend" on the back, btw. Well, don't get me wrong, I'm probably not as big a metal snobhead as Gaz is but I do think the album is attempting to be commercially much more accessible (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). But if yer yearning for the more powerful and technical stuff, you'll have to look on the older albums. That said, I like Natural Born Chaos... especially songs like As We Speak, The Bringer, Flameout. Listen to songs like Skin After Skin, My Need, Grand Failure Anthem, I think those songs are really what Soilwork did best. There's really nothing like those songs on NBC. -The Doc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:32:46 -0700 From: "Dr. Mosh" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Best of 2002 (so far) Message-ID: > 5. Vanden Plas Beyond Daylight > > >> One big yawn for me, they've made the same album > >> again and are sounding generic and stale. > > >> This is the band that has lost their balls I think. > > Uuuuuggggghhhhh .... different opinions are healthy but I have loved VDP > ever since the beginning. To me this is far and wide better than anything > that they have ever done (more mature, still intense and oddly more > accessible all at the same time). Charlie, feel free to admit that you are > wrong at any time ... :) > > Marky Mark, who YEARNS for the new SX ....... I dunno Mark, take any song from Beyond Daylight and play it next to something like Inside Of Your Head or You Fly and you'll notice the difference. -The Doc ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 6253 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===