YTSEJAM Digest 6161 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Oldtimers unite! by "Phil Carter" 2) Oldtimers by "Costello, Daniel J" 3) Re: oldtimers by "Bill Huston" 4) Re: Oldtimers unite :) by Michael Burstin 5) Re: Oldtimers unite! by Rick Audet 6) The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips by Partha Mukhopadhyay 7) Re: old timers by Kurt M Hampton 8) Re: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips by Graham Borland 9) RE: Oldtimers unite! by yallin 10) Old Timers by Barbara Battaglia 11) RE: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 12) RE: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 13) LDS Jammers ?? by "stephen arthur" 14) Re: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips by Brian Hayden 15) Re: Oldtimers unite by "Alexandra O'Connell" 16) RUSH - Vapor Trails Information page. by "Scott (Virtuality)" 17) Re: Oldtimers unite! by Coldfire 18) Re: Old-timers by "Robert Newcomb" 19) Re: Old-timers by Coldfire 20) Re: Oldtimers unite :) by "Dave Neff" 21) Oldtimers unite :) by "Marcel Berkhout" 22) Re: Oldtimers unite :) by WB Henderson 23) Re: Oldtimers unite! by Damon Fibraio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 12:00:58 -0500 From: "Phil Carter" To: Scenes From a Ytse Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids... This thread's kind of fun. I've been around since mid-94 if memory serves me right. (Long enough to remember when "Greetings ye 'jamanoids" was Mape's official greeting, and I shamelessly stole it from him). :) Come on, the rest of you old bastards. We know you're out there. :) cheers, Phil =============================================== Phil Carter -- phil (at) usefulware (dot) com -- 770-424-2525 ext. 207 Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs "I should never have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 12:05:49 -0500 From: "Costello, Daniel J" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Oldtimers Message-ID: I've been on since about the time SFAM was released. I was fortunate enough to catch the last bit of the Bafu Era and a good portion of the spam-bitchings, but since then, things have gotten REALLY boring. -Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:33:00 -0700 From: "Bill Huston" To: Subject: Re: oldtimers Message-ID: charset="us-ascii" Been here since 94 myself on the old Arastar server. Hey Warren from Oregon, still here? Miss Bafu Vai and ytse and jam debates :> Wilmo ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:58:05 -0500 From: Michael Burstin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite :) Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 00:39:29 -0500 > From: "Paul W. Cashman" > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Oldtimers unite :) > Message-ID: > > Well, hell, Carol and Damon, I -am- old. :) Yet another oldtimer > checking in and saying hiya. (I've been on here since 1993 or so. > I think.) I've even been reading a little bit now and then... (I've been here since about digest issue 19 or so, back in 92 or 93).... -- Michael Burstin: email_address_removed http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:15:03 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: Okay okay. I don't usually chime in on threads like this, but if any internet mailing list can be considered home to me, it would be this one. Fall 1996 for me. Just in time to sign up for the fan club and receive the very first xmas CD. Yanni. Dig it. Rick Audet San Francisco On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Phil Carter wrote: > Greetings ye 'jamanoids... > > This thread's kind of fun. I've been around since mid-94 if memory serves > me right. (Long enough to remember when "Greetings ye 'jamanoids" was > Mape's official greeting, and I shamelessly stole it from him). :) > > Come on, the rest of you old bastards. We know you're out there. :) > > cheers, > Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:22:50 -0800 (PST) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips Message-ID: If you were here for this, you are an old-timer. If you know half of what Bafu was talking about, you qualify for a pension. And if it (almost) brings a tear to your eye, remembering The Way It Used To Be....or with outright laughter, you're not alone. Hope the formatting doesn't come through too screwed up.... Enjoy, Partha ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 21:46:26 +0800 From: ytsejam@arastar.com To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1257 YTSEJAM Digest 1257 Today's Topics: 1) Ytsejam by Steve Borzilleri ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:14:15 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri To: email_address_removed Subject: Ytsejam Message-ID: [This should be the last ytsejam@arastar.com post--everything will be coming out at ax.com. Well folks, it's been a lot of hard work and a lot of time spent keeping this list running. In the end it's the music that made it worthwhile :) Since Steve had the last word so many times by coincidence, I thought he should have it on purpose this time :D And if you've been living in a cave, the new subscription addresses are (unmoderated) send: subscribe ytsejam Your Name to ytsejam- email_address_removed with a subject of "asdf" (moderated) send: subscribe metropolis Your Name to metropolis- email_address_removed with a subject of "asdf". -- kbibb] ------------------------------------------ Well, I guess this is goodbye to ytsejam@arastar.com. You know, it seems like only yesterday when SloppyJoe69 presented us his dissertation on corruption in the goat herd. Boy was that educational. And speaking of education... Everything I ever needed to know I learned from Ytsejam. Such as: Don't mess with the guy in charge. He can take the words right out of your mouth, even if you curse directly at him. Even worse, he can put words into your mouth...without anyone even knowing he did. Calling yourself "Monkeyboy" will probably not gain you much respect, regardless of your situation. "Ktulu" works much better. Speak highly of your peers, no matter how annoying some of them may be. It makes people think you're mature and responsible, and earns you fame and respect even though you still despise certain people as much as everyone else. Don't name your child Toxic Waltzer. Whatever he says will automatically offend everyone around him. Ignorance is bliss. Sometimes all it takes is a simple question to be flamed to death. So don't ask any questions and nothing will piss you off. You can find all you need in your mind, if you take the time. Mental imbalance is contagious. Truly crazy people sometimes have a tendency to SpEl lYk dISs. Don't get involved with them. They'll either backstab you by banning you from public places after inviting you there, or they'll just make you l00z yEr SaNItEE, d00d!! If someone casually refers to you as a "fucking idiot," don't laugh and make a joke about it as if you aren't the least bit offended by the nickname. People might think you actually WANT to be called that, and will do so every chance they get. When an elder speaks, listen. (****IMPORTANT**** Especially if they're named "Airdance.") Challenge conformity. If being popular means wearing a sock on your head, be the most unknown soul on the face of the earth. Progressive music isn't about being cool, it's about being yourself. And most of all, It's About Music. Never blow off someone with the word "Fire" in any part of their name. Chances are they have a fiery disposition. When someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES. Beware of the sudden removal of the passive voice. You can lurk in the shadows and keep a clear record for as long as you want, and you'll have all the friends in the world. But it only takes one public voicing of an opinion to establish your personality in a block of marble for eternity. Exercise patience. Don't rush a project if it requires more time or effort. You never know, there might be a scorpion lying in wait for when you decide to force things. A degree in anything is not necessarily a magic wand that will instantly command the respect of your peers and make your opinions the most valid. Berklee is no fucking guarantee. Make your mark as an individual when you can. Don't end up announcing your entrance to the world with "Hi, I'm Greg Chew, Jeff Chew's brother." There is no "best" anything. Only favorites. Playing by the rules won't always keep you out of trouble. Sometimes it can make you seem downright arrogant, even if you're writing in the first person and happen to naturally make heavy usage of "I" and "me" as dictated by the English language. Not everything fits into a definite category. Some things you shouldn't try to rank or define. Make enough top five lists, and soon you'll be making top-five lists of top-five lists. Never argue about plants with a gardener. And if you do, make sure you argue in a slaughterhouse, where the guy in charge isn't interested in plants. Then at least you'll have the Boss on your side when the argument becomes so heated that someone must be removed from the slaughterhouse. Sometimes all it takes to make two guitarists see eye to eye is a keyboardist. Don't underestimate what isn't apparent. The guy making things happen behind the scenes and steering the ship probably isn't a fool. In fact, he's probably the brains behind the whole operation. No guts, no glory. You have a voice and you have an opinion. Don't shrink back beneath the opposition, make yourself heard. And when you do speak, make sure everyone remembers your name. Balls and chunk are where it's at. And above all: SEIZE THE DAY!!! Bafu Vai p.s. special thanks to Elliott Kim for presenting me with the lone title of "Everything I ever needed to know I learned from the Ytsejams" and prodding me to go with it. cool idea. he also suggested the quote from "Take The Time." Peace out ya'll. I guess she's watched long enough, now she's finally taking us to our home... ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 1257 ************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:06:15 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: old timers Message-ID: Late 97..I joined wihtout realizing and had 500 digests in an account i never checked, read over the flame wars about Kevin vs derek.... Sucks about megadeth, but there are very strong rumors that degarmo is back with queensryche. we shall see. Kurt NP-Gonna get close to you Kurts Trade Page: www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html Ytsekurt on AOL IM "Cmon Orlando Shake your f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:01:13 +0000 From: Graham Borland To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips Message-ID: Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote: > If you were here for this, you are an old-timer. That really did bring a tear to my eye. I've been on here for seven years now, and that post of Bafu's is still my all-time favourite. Thanks for posting it again. :-) -- Graham Borland email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 22:27:22 +0200 From: yallin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: <000001c1dc17$218b7270$8fac003e@yallinmmd> Well, I've been on and off, pretty silent since about digest #2500... Mainly laughing my ass off other ppl's flames & stuff -----Original Message----- From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of Phil Carter Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:22 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Greetings ye 'jamanoids... This thread's kind of fun. I've been around since mid-94 if memory serves me right. (Long enough to remember when "Greetings ye 'jamanoids" was Mape's official greeting, and I shamelessly stole it from him). :) Come on, the rest of you old bastards. We know you're out there. :) cheers, Phil ============================================== Phil Carter -- phil (at) usefulware (dot) com -- 770-424-2525 ext. 207 Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs "I should never have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:31:33 -0500 From: Barbara Battaglia To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Old Timers Message-ID: Hello everyone, it's BABS (thought I'd pull that old line out). I think I joined December of '94 if I remember correctly (my memory is fading from old age - ha ha). Glad to see a lot of us originals are still hanging out here :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:38:13 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips Message-ID: Can't forget the Ytsejam Drinking game hahahah JM > -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Borland [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips > > Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > > If you were here for this, you are an old-timer. > > That really did bring a tear to my eye. I've been on here for seven > years now, and that post of Bafu's is still my all-time favourite. > > Thanks for posting it again. :-) > > -- > Graham Borland > email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:57:56 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips Message-ID: Absolutely remember that. What a great time it was when Bafu was among the most-frequent-poster list. JM -----Original Message----- > From: Partha Mukhopadhyay [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:44 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips > > If you were here for this, you are an old-timer. > If you know half of what Bafu was talking about, you > qualify for a pension. And if it (almost) brings a > tear to your eye, remembering The Way It Used To > Be....or with outright laughter, you're not alone. > Hope the formatting doesn't come through too > screwed up.... > Enjoy, > Partha > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:06:40 +0100 From: "stephen arthur" To: Subject: LDS Jammers ?? Message-ID: <000601c1dc14$45b2ffe0$a26b87d9@oemcomputer> No flames please.just a post out of the depths of lurkdom to check out if there are any fellow LDS (Mormons) out there who think DT are rather good........ If so then what about those first 3 lines of Spirit Carries on eh!!!!Ring any bells ??? (GQ) Take care y'all SA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:29:02 -0500 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE in old-time Ytsejam nostalgia trips Message-ID: cool post partha. I "joined" a few months after that when a friend got pissed and signed me up to a bunch of mailing lists. my first post on the jam was something to the effect of "Hey assholes, get me off the list!!!!" Bwahahahahhahaahhaha! Six years and a few unsubs and resubs later, still here. I only have two things to say: 1. Web forums are a pain in the ass. Text-only mail is still most elegant. Boycott the mp.com board! :) 2. I want to see a tweleve-line ASCII-art Anthrax .sig one more time (ten points if you know what that refers to). 3. Scroll down | V / \ |\_/| |---| | | | | _ |=-=| _ _ / \| |/ \ / \| | | ||\ | | | | | \> | | | | | \ | - - - - |) ) | / \ / \ / \ / \ / | | | | | | | | 4. I can't count. -brian -- "I've been thinking...take up drinking...throw a few bad years away" - Kevin Moore ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:31:06 -0800 (PST) From: "Alexandra O'Connell" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite Message-ID: Winter of '97, I think. I don't even have a good memory of it. Does that qualify me as an old-timer? :) I do recall the Derek wars, but the ACOS petition was before my time. Still like it around here, but as I primarily lurk, the growing quietness lately has gotten me worried. Stay alive, jam! Alex<--- who got on the jam at the same time as she got a computer and access to the internet at home! woo does that sounds strange. ==== "May those who love us, love us. And those that don't love us, may God turn their hearts. And if he doesn't turn their hearts, may he turn their ankles, so that we may know them by their limping." - - - - - www.scenes.de New CD out 2002. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:38:37 -0500 From: "Scott (Virtuality)" Subject: RUSH - Vapor Trails Information page. Message-ID: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~mmolino/vt.html Courtesy of your friendly neighborhood Allroundniceguy! (and Ken from Counterparts! who forwarded the URL). Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 20:09:16 -0500 From: Coldfire To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: DAmn..where is Eckie in all this Ytse Nostalgia? :)) It's nice to see this list active with the Old School...altho I may not be that Old School (97 here) I do remember the Mads/Clark wars...and Bafu posts. Here's a question: How many Ytse's have you been fortunate enough to meet? I mean face to face :)) Coldfire Phil Carter wrote: > > Greetings ye 'jamanoids... > > This thread's kind of fun. I've been around since mid-94 if memory serves > me right. (Long enough to remember when "Greetings ye 'jamanoids" was > Mape's official greeting, and I shamelessly stole it from him). :) > > Come on, the rest of you old bastards. We know you're out there. :) > > cheers, > Phil > ============================================== > Phil Carter -- phil (at) usefulware (dot) com -- 770-424-2525 ext. 207 > Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs > "I should never have written all those tank programs." > -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:07:33 -0600 From: "Robert Newcomb" To: Subject: Re: Old-timers Message-ID: <001301c1dc46$a99dd840$message_id_removed> Well I saw two other people say there were here since '97 and that is when I jumped on board. Not really sure that makes me an old timer. Tuggmutton,Vic,Bafu Vai, Baba, Augie ,SubtleRage, Itchy, Jessie, Kerowyn, Sara Rockercat, KillMary, Jotarou, ArchAngel, Rasta Frog, Aragorn, Jon, Eckie,.....is anyone out there? Hey for all you old-timers . . . do you guys remember that little chode Symphony-X who used to be on the old IRC page but never appeared. I know good ol' Coldfire remembers :)) Thorin ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 21:45:06 -0500 From: Coldfire To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Old-timers Message-ID: Ya'll quit callin me old ;) Robert Newcomb wrote: > > Well I saw two other people say there were here since '97 and that is > when I jumped on board. Not really sure that makes me an old timer. > > Tuggmutton,Vic,Bafu Vai, Baba, Augie ,SubtleRage, Itchy, Jessie, > Kerowyn, Sara Rockercat, KillMary, Jotarou, ArchAngel, Rasta Frog, > Aragorn, Jon, Eckie,.....is anyone out there? I hear from Kerowyn (Pam Doise Webb) She married Ryan Webb. It was a ytse wedding as Pellaz and Bernd and myself were there! Also went to another Ytse Wedding...Sarah the perpetual YtseListLurker got married to a fellow Jammer. DAYUM I miss KillMary...where is he? And Rage....and M-Bone....WHERE ARE YOOOOOOOOUUU????? And D-man! OH YEAH D-MAN! > > Hey for all you old-timers . . . do you guys remember that little chode > Symphony-X who used to be on the old IRC page but never appeared. I > know good ol' Coldfire remembers :)) YOu know me..I remember like everything ;) > > Thorin > Good to see ya old chum! Coldfire "and all this could be just a dream so it seems I was never much good at goodbye" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:39:20 -0500 From: "Dave Neff" To: Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite :) Message-ID: <000801c1dc5b$da94bd00$a2dbfea9@oemcomputer> > From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" > My very first 'Jam digest was # 700 I think sometime in 94 I joined in the 700's somewhere too, I think. AND I got to meet Hairball, who lived near me at the time. :) -d ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:30:33 +0000 From: "Marcel Berkhout" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Oldtimers unite :) Message-ID:

Jeez....I think I subscribed somewhere in the beginning of 1994. Been a lurker ever since :) Apart from the time that I "sold" bootlegs. Carpe Diem (Bospos Festival 1995, Holland) was the most succesful one. Sold about 150 here on the list.

Later....back to lurking....

Marcel


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------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:05:08 -0500 From: WB Henderson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite :) Message-ID: >Apart from the time that I "sold" bootlegs. Yep. Very few people owned burners back then. And MP3? Forgetaboutit. It may've only been under ten years ago, but it was a completely different time. I dropped a good bit of cash on boots back in the day, myself. Mostly to Bahr. Brian [NP...SnakeNet Metal Radio ( http://www.snakenetmetalradio.com/ )] ============================================= WB Henderson email_address_removed Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio, 10-11.30pm Wed): http://ahp.musicpage.com/ Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio, 11.30pm-1am Wed): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/ WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/ WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/ ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:32:28 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oldtimers unite! Message-ID: Well, I have met a few of the people on this list. I know all the old timers remember me, mostly for the handicap and the most frequent pster list b.s. Does anybody remember that live audio dream theater chat room? Coldfire, that's where I remember you from. I loved your voice. It was very cool to have th irc.dreamt.org irc server with the #ytsejam channel. I wish I knew where that went, too. Man, maybe once I get out of school for i.t. I'll build an old timer ytsejam room somewhere. At 08:34 PM 4/4/2002, you wrote: >DAmn..where is Eckie in all this Ytse Nostalgia? :)) It's nice to see >this list active with the Old School...altho I may not be that Old >School (97 here) I do remember the Mads/Clark wars...and Bafu posts. > >Here's a question: How many Ytse's have you been fortunate enough to >meet? >I mean face to face :)) > > > >Coldfire > >Phil Carter wrote: > > > > Greetings ye 'jamanoids... > > > > This thread's kind of fun. I've been around since mid-94 if memory serves > > me right. (Long enough to remember when "Greetings ye 'jamanoids" was > > Mape's official greeting, and I shamelessly stole it from him). :) > > > > Come on, the rest of you old bastards. We know you're out there. :) > > > > cheers, > > Phil > > ============================================= > > Phil Carter -- phil (at) usefulware (dot) com -- 770-424-2525 ext. 207 > > Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs > > "I should never have written all those tank programs." > > -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email email_address_removed aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: email_address_removed Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, coHost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details Band sites: Awake: http://www.geocities.com/visions692000: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com "If I die tomorrow, I'll be all right, because I believe that after we're gone, the spirit carries on."--Dream Theater, in dedication to those who lost their lives on 09/11/01 God Bless the U.S.A. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 6161 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===