YTSEJAM Digest 6152 Today's Topics: 1) re: Mangini by "Phil Carter" 2) Superior Homepage by Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de (Bernd Basmer) 3) DC Show, a few spoilers included by Ilia 4) Re: DC Show, a few spoilers included by "Kez" 5) Re: Boston Show by Graham Borland 6) The great debate without samples? by "Bruce Forst" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:11:12 -0500 From: "Phil Carter" To: Scenes From a Ytse Subject: re: Mangini Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids.... Neil remarked: >That other drummer jamming with Mike on the double-assed monster kit was >Mike Mangini. He played on Extreme's last album "Waiting for the Punchline" >and has been in Steve Vai's touring band for a while. Probably has a lot of >other credits that I'm not thinking of right now. >He looked like a kid in a candy store up there with Mike! That's probably because Mangini is about three feet tall. :) Kid in a candy store or no, Mangini could put Portnoy in his hip pocket, playing-wise. I have never seen anybody with such utter limb independence and total knowledge of rhythms. Amazing player. Yes, he was in Vai's touring band for a while but I think his other projects are currently keeping him busy (at least, Virgil Donati was playing drums for Vai when I saw G3 last year). cheers, Phil =============================================== Phil Carter -- phil (at) usefulware (dot) com -- 770-424-2525 ext. 207 Visit http://www.usefulware.com/ for ConnectionMagic for ISPs "I should never have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:39:12 +0100 From: Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de (Bernd Basmer) To: Subject: Superior Homepage Message-ID: Hi! > Umm ... I have been pretty inactive in the last few weeks. I take > it this is for the band Superior. > Where's your web page, man?? Not even a week ago I went around > the net looking to see how your new CD was coming along. I found > a web page, but it wasn't very informative. You can find it at http://www.meet-superior.de/ Greetings Bernd ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:26:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ilia To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DC Show, a few spoilers included Message-ID: Possible spoilers below... read at your own risk. LaBrie: Good evening, Baltimore! [crowd chanting, "It's DC!"] Portnoy: And you too, DC! LaBrie: Baltimore, DC, who fucking cares? I'm from fucking Canada, all right? It was a wonderful night of Dream Theater. I won't recall the exact setlist, but there were definitely many highlights to this show. Here are some of the ones I rememeber off top of my head. First of all, of course, it was an incredible performance for all of the members of the group. LaBrie's voice sounded great (although I heard complaints that it was too loud at times), Petrucci's monstrous playing was amazing (including the circular 6-string sweeps, or whatever you call those, at blinding speeds), and Rudess was godly. Portnoy and Myung were also very impressive, which, of course, comes as no surprise. The band played The Killing Hand, from WDaDU - an incredible rendition, in my opinion. LaBrie started out emulating Dominici's voice almost perfectly, which is quite impressive considering how different their vocal styles are. The solos in the song were great, and the segments they threw betwixt parts of the song, such as Carol of the Bells, fit in beautifully. The band closed their first set with Pull Me Under, with various tempo changes in the middle - I'm not sure they did this at other shows, LaBrie seemed to have not been expecting those. It was great nonetheless, best I've ever heard them play that song. The Overture to 6DoIT played over the PA with just the keyboards, and it sounded almost like a different song in parts, since there were no guitar, bass, or drums in it. They did a great job of recreating the feel of this number live, I was very much impressed. Petrucci played his solo to Goodnight Kiss practically note for note - that's my favorite solo on the whole album! The encore went well also. A surprise stop in the middle of a measure at the very beginning of Take The Time, where Portnoy asked for "Happy Birthday" to be sung for some guy (drum tech I think) and Rudess did a wonderful jazzy rendition of the song (in G, for some reason, but great nonetheless). After that, Portnoy said "Now back to the originally scheduled program" and without even a second of delay they continued right where they left off. It was incredible. At the end of the number, they played something that I didn't recognize - a drum beat and a bass groove, over top of which Petrucci and Rudess cut heads. That was SICK! At one point, it seemed like they were trading licks so fast that they got out of beat; I think Rudess did that on purpose to show up Petrucci, while I heard some other people say that it was most likely a mistake. Anyone have thoughts on that? There were a couple of disappointments, though nothing too major. First of all, the sound wasn't all that great, in my opinion. At times the solos weren't loud enough, elsewhere either drums, vocals, or keyboards were overpowering. Also, the solo sections for guitar and keyboards weren't too long. The keyboard solo was incredible, though - Rudess is so sick, it's disguisting. Not to mention he looks like a conductor while playing. In the jam at the end, Portnoy started what at first sounded like a drum solo, and it was sweet, but unfortunately he only did two measures of it. And Myung didn't have a solo... I really wished he would. Not to mention that you could barely hear the bass, except on Scarred where they turned it up (seeing how it is the main instrument in most of that song). But overall, it was a great experience. We spent two hours waiting outside, two hours waiting inside, and the performance was worth every second. Can't wait until they come back in the summer. Anyway, that's as much as I can think of. I missed the Bafu cries, after everyone here went to great lengths to explain to me what that was about - I walked with a friend to get his "will call" ticket when I heard whoever it was that was shouting it. Oh well, maybe I'll see you all next time. Later, - Ilia. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:58:13 -0500 From: "Kez" To: Subject: Re: DC Show, a few spoilers included Message-ID: <001f01c1d4f8$2eeac400$0300005a@kezp3800> > Anyway, that's as much as I can think of. I missed the Bafu > cries, after everyone here went to great lengths to explain to > me what that was about - I walked with a friend to get his "will > call" ticket when I heard whoever it was that was shouting it. That would have been me....hehe Don't be shy next time. I was walking up and down the whole line yelling it, and only got a handful of knowing looks. Do I look THAT crazy people? ;) Hardly. Maybe that's the problem. Kinda scary seeing a guy that could be your dad, yelling unintelligible words to a crowd of (mostly) young strangers. hehe You're right, though, it was a fantastic show. I was just hoping that they could LIVE UP to the level they established on the SFaM tour. They easily surpassed that level, imo. James rules, btw. Kez, posting like a Mad(s)man ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 2002 21:59:52 +0000 From: Graham Borland To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Boston Show Message-ID: "Neil Evans" writes: > That other drummer jamming with Mike on the double-assed monster kit was > Mike Mangini. He played on Extreme's last album "Waiting for the Punchline" > and has been in Steve Vai's touring band for a while. Probably has a lot of > other credits that I'm not thinking of right now. Mullmuzzler, with James LaBrie, would be the obvious one. :-P -- Graham Borland email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:52:06 -0600 From: "Bruce Forst" To: Subject: The great debate without samples? Message-ID: <002701c1d532$01735020$254dea43@oemcomputer> Is there a drive to get a alternate release of The Great Debate out, if so then I'm there! I like the song ok, but it seems that if you're going to do something like the voice samples that will ultimately date the song then it might be best to have a non-sampled version that can withstand more repeated listening. I tend to fast forward through the speaking parts even though i have an idea that the instrumental buildup getting buried underneath would be a wonderful thing to behold in all its unadorned splendor. Bruce ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 6152 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===