YTSEJAM Digest 6138 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Semi-OT: Interesting Article by "Jason Birzer" 2) Re[2]: Semi-OT: Interesting Article by Michael Kizer 3) Re: SUPERIOR - Listen to new songs!! by email_address_removed (Steve Chew) 4) Superior site by Alexis Ramos 5) WDADU by "Kevin Hammer" 6) Re: WDADU by Ilia 7) RE: WDADU by "T.D. Smith" 8) Enchant (Nearfest) by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ch=F3lo" Scott Mosher 9) Re: Enchant (Nearfest) by Ilia 10) $1 a day...do you need legal coverage?? .. .>18842 by email_address_removed 11) Re: $1 a day...do you need legal coverage?? .. .>18842 by WB Henderson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:02:30 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" To: , , Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Interesting Article Message-ID: <000201c1c966$ee298470$0202a8c0@longshot> > I've never heard the band in question, nor do I think it matters much, > but the article really goes into detail about some of the problems > with the current music/radio industry. It is more than a little > disheartening. Sorry, but I don't have that much sympathy for these guys. For guys who are trying to succeed unconventonally, they are certainly measuring success in conventional methods. I mean, how can you tour nationally when no one knows who you are? There are plenty of bands out there, like the ones we listen to, that have to get 3-4 albums under their belt and lots of slow, fanbuilding stuff before they can even think about touring beyond their borders. You need to have the followers first. Also, expecting that your CD will be in the K-Marts or Wal-Marts of America is a bit much. There is limited space at those places, so it is no surprise that it didn't show up there, or that there might only be one at Best Buy. Personally, I think they need to concentrate on finding their niche and marketing to them. It is how it works in Prog. Course, the biggest thing that bothers me about this article is that the guy whines about not getting heard, and doesn't even provides a link to check out what his music actually IS. C'mon, you spent the time writing an article, at least tell us where we can find it. After searching on DGM's site and clicking on a lot of links, I finally found their site and a track to listen to. Most people won't go to that degree to find them. Looks like a missed opportunity for me. The kicker is, while they are good, there isn't anything about them that is particularly special. Pretty standard rock as far as I can tell. Maybe they should have signed a big record deal. They might need the support to stick out. Otherwise, I could see these guys doing well in a local club scene. (Hell, I'd support them if they were in this area. The club bands in this area suck for the most part.) Nothing wrong with being a good club band, other than you aren't going to make a living off of that. Course, if they are in it partially because they love doing it, it doesn't matter as much. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:32:09 -0800 From: Michael Kizer To: Jason Birzer Subject: Re[2]: Semi-OT: Interesting Article Message-ID: Tuesday, March 12, 2002, 6:03:52 AM, Jason wrote: JB> Sorry, but I don't have that much sympathy for these guys. For guys who are JB> trying to succeed unconventonally, they are certainly measuring success in JB> conventional methods. I wasn't so much concerned with the band themselves (or his whining) as in all of the road blocks that he was pointing out, as these affect most every band. JB> who you are? There are plenty of bands out there, like the ones we listen JB> to, that have to get 3-4 albums under their belt and lots of slow, JB> fanbuilding stuff before they can even think about touring beyond their JB> borders. You need to have the followers first. Even then, most of the bands in our genre can't tour the US. And even the most successful / unknown bands out there like Dream Theater have problems booking full US tours and getting proper promotion and radio exposure. In talking with Mike Portnoy after the LA show, it seems like the US is a pretty tough nut to crack, since they are playing huge places in Europe and Japan. JB> Also, expecting that your CD will be in the K-Marts or Wal-Marts of America JB> is a bit much. There is limited space at those places, so it is no surprise JB> that it didn't show up there, or that there might only be one at Best Buy. Yeah, same with bands that have been around for a long time, like Fates Warning... I always see about one or two CDs at Best Buy... and they are supposed to have decent distribution (obviously not). JB> scene. (Hell, I'd support them if they were in this area. The club bands JB> in this area suck for the most part.) Nothing wrong with being a good club JB> band, other than you aren't going to make a living off of that. Course, if JB> they are in it partially because they love doing it, it doesn't matter as JB> much. Very true... -- ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." < www.ivorygate.com > Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream < www.fateswarning.info > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NP: Silence... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:53:56 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SUPERIOR - Listen to new songs!! Message-ID: > >Our new homepage is online with a lot of new stuff going on. >On top of all, you can listen to some new songs of our coming >album "Ultima Ratio". Have a look at http://www.meet-superior.de/ >or go to the Ultima Ratio site at http://www.ultimaratio2002.de/ >to learn about the story, the music and a lot of more things about >our new CD. > Cool! The samples sound great. I can't wait for the CD. Any idea on when it will be released? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:47:35 -0800 (PST) From: Alexis Ramos To: ytsejam Subject: Superior site Message-ID: Hey Bernd! I have to say that both the Superior and the Ultima Ratio site are amazing!!! I'm really looking forward to the new album, but I still haven't found the release date anywhere. The trailer says March 12th (today), but it seems like that isn't the date because the album isn't listed on the site's online store. So when is it going to be released and how can we order it if we live in the US? Thanks for the info! Alexis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:28:44 -0500 From: "Kevin Hammer" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: WDADU Message-ID: Just got my WDADU from CDNOW. Sounds cool! Also a very informative story on the inner cover. I never realized that Kevin Moore was Dominici's replacement ;) _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:54:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ilia To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: WDADU Message-ID: --- Kevin Hammer wrote: > I never realized that Kevin Moore was Dominici's replacement ;) Was he? I was under the impression that Moore was with the band from the get-go... wasn't he a member of Centurion, and recruited for Majesty by Petrucci/Myung? LaBrie's first name is Kevin, but he took up his middle name (James), for there were already two Johns in the band and two Kevins would be greatly confusing. Then again, I didn't yet look at the new WDADU, so maybe that story is a little more accurate. - Ilia. http://www.44lbs.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! 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He was later fired because his ideas differed severely with Dipsy's. ====================== email_address_removed ====================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:07:45 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ch=F3lo" Scott Mosher Subject: Enchant (Nearfest) Message-ID: Man, I just gotta say, I'm still depressed about missing out on Nearfest and seeing Enchant, one of my favorite progressive bands (denoting them progressive, neo-progressive, para-progressive, semi-progressive, pseudo-progressive, chromo-progressive, bio-progressive, kitchen-appliance progressive, frog progressive, astro-progressive, pop progressive, etc, etc, etc, et al, ad naseum, ad infinitum, whatever!) who I just *happen* to be listening to my own personal 'Greatest Hit's' of theirs even as I, er... type? That's one band I pick up their newest CD irregardless of anything. Anyone who is NOT familiar with 'em, get down (tonight) and grab some Enchant CD's. Tell 'em B.A. Baracus sent ya... Anyhow, I've been under the impression Enchant's been destined for big and great things ever since I picked up 'Blueprint of the World' and heard 'Nighttime Sky' back in '96. In my humble and fortuitious opinion, they are upper-tier level along with the Rush/Dream Theater/Fates Warning/Marillion's of the realm... now I'm just awaiting Tile's next CD and their slow but deserved climb into the progressive stratosphere. Man, what's a brother gots to do to pass the time? Oh yeah, I'm working on a new CD, myself... Scott (Art/Music/Life/Niceguy) VIRTUALITY CD Project: music: http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ilia To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Enchant (Nearfest) Message-ID: --- Chslo Scott Mosher I'm still depressed about missing out on Nearfest and seeing Enchant, > one of my favorite progressive bands (denoting them progressive, neo-progressive, > para-progressive, semi-progressive, pseudo-progressive, chromo-progressive, > bio-progressive, kitchen-appliance progressive, frog progressive, > astro-progressive, pop progressive, etc, etc, etc, et al, ad naseum, > ad infinitum, whatever!) That's beautiful, Scott. Mind if I quote you on that in my AIM profile? - Ilia. http://www.44lbs.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! 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