YTSEJAM Digest 6077 Today's Topics: 1) Chicago Show by "Dan Russell" 2) Re: Copy protection illegal? by Brian Hansen 3) re: very special show in chicago by "Pye, Adam T" 4) World Tourbulence Radio Ads by "HJ Rivera" 5) sweet by "TREVOR HOIT" 6) Re: special show in Chicago by Scott Hansen 7) Re: Copy protection illegal? by "dreamryche" 8) CDs & Videos for sale by Sum WhiteGuy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:01:25 -0500 From: "Dan Russell" To: Subject: Chicago Show Message-ID: <000601c19940$0a3cd4c0$88c809c0@russell> My guess would be that Kevin Moore finally accepted to come do a song or 2 and comes back to do Surrounded and Wait For Sleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:36:55 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Copy protection illegal? Message-ID: Graham Borland wrote: > Not quite. The record company are entitled to do whatever they want to > *prevent* you making a copy. But if you do manage to make a copy, they > aren't allowed to take action against you. > It's all here: > Yeah, I read that. They can do that, but I don't have to buy the product. Anything that isn't specifically defined as criminally "illegal" is legal. (i.e. Drinking Cranberry juice isn't defined as legal or illegal, thus it's legal.) The record companies anti-copying techniques aren't illegal. And making copies of purchased media for personnel use has always been excluded from (criminal) legislation, AFAIK. As the legislation you referenced states, home copies (noncommercial use) are specifically excluded from civil lawsuits. So both anti-copying techniques and home copying are legal. Which is great, leave the law (and lawyers) out. But like I said, I will return any dvd or cd that I can't copy for my own use. I'll just call it defective (which it is to me). Heck, I may go through the process 20 times (exchange/return/repeat) trying to get a good one. That's how copy protection on standard VHS was defeated. Too many people returned them as "defective". (In that case, the technology was a little "buggy", and some VCR's couldn't play the original). I like to make greatest hits cdr's from discs I have purchased. If they prevent me from making copies of my purchased material, I guess the industry would prefer I use pirated MP3's instead, and not even buy the original? Let the market decide... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:26:56 -0500 From: "Pye, Adam T" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: re: very special show in chicago Message-ID: Joe said: >any speculation to what this very special event may be? > >>I doubt that they'll record another live album. My guess? Totally different >>setlist... >> >>joe I also doubt another live album this soon. I've also heard that they're going to mix up setlists on this tour a little more than on previous tours (thank god), so I don't think a different setlist is, in itself, the "special" event. My guess is that they're going to play Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance in its entirety.. Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:42:53 -0500 From: "HJ Rivera" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: World Tourbulence Radio Ads Message-ID: Copied and pasted from the Mike Portnoy newsletter: ------------------------------------------- World Tourbulence Radio Ads. If you would like to hear the radio spots for the upcoming US World Tourbulence 2002 Tour check out this topic in the Mike Portnoy Forum: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8209 ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:10:43 -0800 From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: sweet Message-ID: <00bd01c1995a$7b5726a0$message_id_removed> Yay! My wife really wants to go see her brother, sister-in-law and nephew in Wash. D.C and she is planning a trip for the end of March and I wasn't really exited to go, but then I looked at the DT tour dates and now I will have at least one good night there! :) Anybody know when tix go on sale for DC? Trevor will get to see DT cuz they won't come to Seattle anymore. ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 15:14:06 -0800 From: Scott Hansen To: Subject: Re: special show in Chicago Message-ID: In an e-mail sent on the extremely historic date of 1/9/02 10:40 AM, ytsejam@torchsong.com thusly spaketh: >> any speculation to what this very special event may be? > > I doubt that they'll record another live album. My guess? Totally different > setlist... From how I understand it, Mike's mentioned that every show will have a very different setlist - it's not just gonna be when they do two shows in the same city. BTW, I think I'll be going home for a visit (Milwaukee) so that I can make sure to catch the Chicago shows as well! :-P Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:38:33 +1100 From: "dreamryche" To: Subject: Re: Copy protection illegal? Message-ID: <002001c19966$c1249a80$483636cb@PaulTadday> Another way around this issue, even though it may be a long bow to draw, is to copy your cd's from your stereo directly/digitally to a Mini Disc player and then transfer to your PC and burn the cd that way. Paul. > I like to make greatest hits cdr's from discs I have > purchased. If they prevent me from making copies of my > purchased material, I guess the industry would prefer > I use pirated MP3's instead, and not even buy the > original? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:20:43 -0800 (PST) From: Sum WhiteGuy To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CDs & Videos for sale Message-ID: Hi there! I'm selling off some of my CDs and music videos that I don't use anymore. All CDs are in good or better condition and are not scratched. Prices do not in include shipping. Shipping costs vary depending on how you want them shipped and how many you buy. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me in advance. Items are available on a first come first served basis. CDs After Crying - Struggle For Life (Live) - 2CD - $15.00 (like new) Platypus - When Pus Comes To Shove - $5.00 Angra - Holy Land - $11.00 (bought at PP2.0 - new condition) Queensryche - Q2K - $4.00 The Who - Quadrophenia - 2CD - $9.00 Bozzio Levins Stevens - Black Light Syndrome - $5.00 Marillion - Holidays In Eden - 2CD Remaster - $11.00 (excellent condition) Megadeth - Promo CD: 6 live tracks recorded in 1992 - $7.00 Divine Regale - Ocean Mind - $7.00 Gordian Knot - Gordian Knot - $7.00 Explorers Club - Age of Impact - $7.00 Videos Yes - Greatest Video Hits - $5.00 Metallica - Live Shit (San Diego tapes 1&2) - $10.00 Pantera - Cowboys From Hell: The Videos - $4.00 Jon. email_address_removed email_address_removed __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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