YTSEJAM Digest 5963 Today's Topics: 1) CD Jewel Case Inserts by "Matthew McDaniel" 2) Album cover by Chris Elder 3) Live Scenes by "Steve Graham" 4) live scenes by "TREVOR HOIT" 5) Fw: live scenes by "TREVOR HOIT" 6) RE: CD Jewel Case Inserts by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 7) WoW by "Stan" 8) Re: Album cover by "Internet Solutions Inc" 9) Meshuggah et al... by Cyberwolf 10) LSFNY Cover by "Matthew McDaniel" 11) Re: live scenes by Eric George 12) RE: CD Jewel Case Inserts by Eric George 13) The Spirit Carries On Tribute by "Matthew McDaniel" 14) DT-Scenes from NY by "TREVOR HOIT" 15) an idea that really needs to be considered by Damon Fibraio 16) Re: i can't realize that it was true by "Dave Neff" 17) frustration by Damon Fibraio 18) Pulled from the shelves by email_address_removed 19) Scenes From N.Y. by "Joe DeAngelo" 20) Re: DT-Scenes from NY by Robert Muise 21) Re: frustration by email_address_removed 22) Re: DT-Scenes from NY by Michael Kizer 23) Re: frustration by Damon Fibraio 24) New DT album by Graham Borland 25) Re: New DT album by "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" 26) CD PULLED --HELP-- by "Jason L. Gelnett" 27) LSFNY on EBAY by "Rob Pociluk" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:52:54 -0400 From: "Matthew McDaniel" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CD Jewel Case Inserts Message-ID: I downloaded a program from Neato.com called MediaFACE II, for making CD jewel case inserts and similar stuff. Anyone have experience with it? If so, how do you get the text to go vertically on the spine of the insert? I've tried everything and can't seem to find the answer. The obvious way would seem to be to use the 90 degree rotation buttons, but they are always greyed out and unusable. If this can't be done, or no one knows how, can anyone suggest another program I could use for making jewel case inserts? I use Nero for buring and its jewel case creater won't allow text modification and, of course, I can't use that portion of the Adaptec software cause it interfers with the Nero software. Any help is appreciated. Private email is fine, if you prefer. Thanks, ~Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:57:24 -0600 From: Chris Elder To: Subject: Album cover Message-ID: This is going too far. There is nothing wrong with this cover, for three reasons: 1. This is a band that doesn't exactly pull in the dough from average consumers. i.e. The average consumer wouldn't be walking down and aisle in Wal-Mart or Target and even see the album, much less pay any attention to it. 2. The people that will buy the album are the fans, plain and simple, that is the only market for this product. And as the fans we know where this image comes from: An album from 12 years ago that pictures a heart wrapped in thorns on fire. The heart is changed to an apple due to the fact that the performance was recorded in the "Big Apple." And as such the skyline was added. It in no way implies that the city is on fire. It is a silhouette added to an image from 12 years ago. 3. This was designed long before Tuesday, there was no intention behind it, it was just a coincidence. chris I too feel for the band. Luckily Circuit City had one copy. Best Buy, Coconutsm and a local CD shop hadn't even heard of the band or album. It wasn't in their computer either. So this is really a non-issue. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:18:29 -0400 From: "Steve Graham" To: Subject: Live Scenes Message-ID: <00e101c13d38$edb4da40$f800a8c0@steveg> Hello all, I don't post very much, but thought I would add my 2 pennies. I picked up my copy of Lives Scenes at a Media Play yesterday. It was the last copy on the shelf and the 16 year-old behind the counter had to check with her manager if it was OK to sell it to me. I looked at the guy and said, 'I just like the music.' Fortunately, he let the sale go through. I'm guessing I own a one-of-a-kind collector's item now. As far as the performance goes, and forgive me if I am repeating any past comments, but the portions of Caught in a New Millennium that are Caught in a Web remind me of the version of CIAW when I saw DT during the Fix for 96. (I went to 2 shows). Anyone else notice that? Either way, it kicks major ass. Later. Steve Graham ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:19:01 -0700 From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: Subject: live scenes Message-ID: <00ed01c13d38$f6e748a0$message_id_removed> Shit, they're already on ebay. Asking $22-$500. Highest bid $51. Ebay has said they will not sell items related to the tragedy. I think I will report them. :) Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:29:30 -0700 From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Fw: live scenes Message-ID: <010901c13d3a$6deb01c0$message_id_removed> Correction, someone bought one for $100.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "TREVOR HOIT" Subject: live scenes > Shit, they're already on ebay. Asking $22-$500. > Highest bid $51. > Ebay has said they will not sell items related to the tragedy. I think I > will report them. :) > Trevor > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:57:43 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: CD Jewel Case Inserts Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A06BA20B9@ISDCRE00> Is it shareware? Maybe that is just a trial version until you send in some money and then all of the options become available... ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew McDaniel [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:12 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: CD Jewel Case Inserts > > I downloaded a program from Neato.com called MediaFACE II, for making CD > jewel case inserts and similar stuff. Anyone have experience with it? If > > so, how do you get the text to go vertically on the spine of the insert? > I've tried everything and can't seem to find the answer. The obvious way > would seem to be to use the 90 degree rotation buttons, but they are > always > greyed out and unusable. If this can't be done, or no one knows how, can > anyone suggest another program I could use for making jewel case inserts? > I > use Nero for buring and its jewel case creater won't allow text > modification > and, of course, I can't use that portion of the Adaptec software cause it > interfers with the Nero software. Any help is appreciated. Private email > > is fine, if you prefer. Thanks, > > ~Matt > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:58:31 -0400 From: "Stan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: WoW Message-ID: This terroristic event, this fatal tragedy will be talked about years. We now live in the dawn of a new era, and it scares me to think of what tomorrow brings. as for the new CD's, I was able to get mine from Sam Goody. It was positioned on the new release wall. It is very hard to look at the cover. I have to agree that the band and the record company, as well as all stores that have pulled it from shelves are making the right decision. When I pointed the cover art out to the cashier, she srugged her shoulders and said "I doubt anyone will even notice." My heart goes out to all who have been affected by this horrible event. It is now time to the doubters that you may be able to break our buildings, but you cant crack our foundation. We as a country will rebuild with stronger spirits, and more love for one another. God Bless The United States of America. Stan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:26:24 -0400 From: "Internet Solutions Inc" To: Subject: Re: Album cover Message-ID: <002001c13d42$60fca330$39351ec8@atenas> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Elder" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: Album cover > This is going too far. There is nothing wrong with this cover, for three > reasons: I wholeheartedly agree with you. Its a shame really... :( The nation is now taking extreme measures to things that can seem very petty.. Pulling flight-sim games from stores, complete with yoke-type controllers, etc I think its too extreme... but oh well -Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:49:23 -0400 From: Cyberwolf To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Meshuggah et al... Message-ID: I agree. Not exactly 'cookie-monster' (isn't GROVER vocals more appropo to most death metal anyhow?) but certainly, somewhat un-melodic and more 'extreme' in tonal quality than your average QR/FW/DT clone band. I quite like Meshuggah actually, the music crushes, though I admit, the vocals wear on me after a bit. I compare it to Dave Matthews Band & the Cranberries (not in style, though!) in that the music is incredible, BUT the vocal style is grating after long periods of time. Go figure. As for the DT CD cover change, well, I can understand their stand. I think the record company has more to lose by NOT changing it, the band, well, they are bound more by principle, than the label. Scott Mosher http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:11:28 -0400 From: "Matthew McDaniel" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: LSFNY Cover Message-ID: Well, my local record store still had 3 copies of LSFNY right out on the shelf! I bought one and asked if they were about to pull it. They hadn't heard a thing about it being pulled! Then again, this is a small store and not part of any big music retail chain. Personally, even in light of the terrible disaster, I think the cover is very artistic and quite innocent. However, I certialy understand the reasons for pulling it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:28:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: live scenes Message-ID: fuckin' money-hungry vultures. get 'em trevor. :) On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, TREVOR HOIT wrote: > Shit, they're already on ebay. Asking $22-$500. > Highest bid $51. > Ebay has said they will not sell items related to the tragedy. I think I > will report them. :) > Trevor > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:33:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: CD Jewel Case Inserts Message-ID: that was my thought too. i know people that have that software & use it religiously without a problem. the downside of shareware: it's great to be able to get your hands on cool software for free, until you realize that you can't do anything really cool with it without coughing up the green. On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Souter, Jan-Michael wrote: > Is it shareware? Maybe that is just a trial version until you send in some > money and then all of the options become available... ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew McDaniel [SMTP:email_address_removed > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:12 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: CD Jewel Case Inserts > > > > I downloaded a program from Neato.com called MediaFACE II, for making CD > > jewel case inserts and similar stuff. Anyone have experience with it? If > > > > so, how do you get the text to go vertically on the spine of the insert? > > I've tried everything and can't seem to find the answer. The obvious way > > would seem to be to use the 90 degree rotation buttons, but they are > > always > > greyed out and unusable. If this can't be done, or no one knows how, can > > anyone suggest another program I could use for making jewel case inserts? > > I > > use Nero for buring and its jewel case creater won't allow text > > modification > > and, of course, I can't use that portion of the Adaptec software cause it > > interfers with the Nero software. Any help is appreciated. Private email > > > > is fine, if you prefer. Thanks, > > > > ~Matt > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:20:51 -0400 From: "Matthew McDaniel" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The Spirit Carries On Tribute Message-ID: In Milwaukee, WI on WRZQ 102.9 FM (Lazer 103), they are playing The Spirit Carries On (the Live LSFNY version) as a tribute song to all the victims of Tuesday's attack. The DJ even went so far as to talk about the CD being released the same day as the tragedy and the song seeming like it was meant for this occassion. Not a single word about the cover art issue. And this is a radio station where I've heard DT played maybe 3 times in the last 4 years. ~Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:20:15 -0700 From: "TREVOR HOIT" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: DT-Scenes from NY Message-ID: <007801c13d5a$aa7c2c20$message_id_removed> Well, I drove around and found some today, but they weren't on sale...if anyone needs a copy, I'll need $30 in US or $32 anywhere else including shipping.....and they are officially deleted per dreamtheater.net Trevor ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:25:17 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: an idea that really needs to be considered Message-ID: This is not a cheap way to have DT cash in on a tragedy, but if you really listen to the words of The Sperit Carries on, I think this song is appropriate to the healing of this country from the WTC attacks, and I think it needs to be played on radio more as a tribute to the heroic efforts of rescue workers, many of which who died. Really listen to the words of this song, I srongly believe that this song speaks more than as a part of the story it revoles around. Even the live version, which is so much more powerful than the original, even thougyh I can't get out to get the lsfny yet. If anybody can do it, please call you radio stations and see if we can get them to play it. Not to pump DT and get them popular, but to help in healing America. It worked with STyx's Show me the Way ten years ago. Hell, that song needs to be dusted off and played again. it is relevant, and I think we need to have it played. Come to think of it, why not Nobody's hero, by Rush? I can probably think of hundreds of more songs that this country can use to heal itself or lean on as an anchor to build our sperits again. I don't want to turn this into a thread with no meaning, but what other songs in our genre of music would be a good soundtrack for this tragedy? I am almost compelled to burn a CD with this stuff on it as a kind of therapy for myself. -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email email_address_removed aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, web site: http://frontpage.home.net/dfibraio/ coHost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details Band sites: Awake: http://www.geocities.com/awake6am: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com "All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars, All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars, Turn around and walk the razor's edge."--Neil Peart of Rush, The Pass ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:49:54 -0400 From: "Dave Neff" To: Subject: Re: i can't realize that it was true Message-ID: <003d01c13d77$f4243260$a2dbfea9@oemcomputer> > From: "Sergey Shilov" > Subject: i can't realize that it was true > > p.s. i do not think it is a good idea to change the cover of the new album. > it would be better to keep it as a reminder of such a fatal tragedy. You know, I was conflicted about what they should do, but now I think yours is an *excellent* idea. Especially in light of the fact that it came out on the very same day. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:08:15 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: frustration Message-ID: Since somebody posted the news that a radio station was playing Spirit carries on on the radio, I have been wishing I could get out to a store and pick of Live scenes from ny. I can't get to a store, unfortunately, due to thing that certain ytsejammers hate when I mention. I need to know, from those Jersey Jammers out there. did they pull lsfny from any stores? Is there some place I can go to pick it up? I can't wait three or four days or a week for cdnow to get it to me, I just need to hear that live rendition of Spirit carries on, with the chorus. I tried to find it on audio galazy, and I can't. Can anybody help me? -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email email_address_removed aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, web site: http://frontpage.home.net/dfibraio/ coHost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details Band sites: Awake: http://www.geocities.com/awake6am: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com "All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars, All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars, Turn around and walk the razor's edge."--Neil Peart of Rush, The Pass ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:51:37 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Pulled from the shelves Message-ID: Hey there, All the corporate stores, Best Buy, Circuit City, Sam Goody etc. are recalling the Cd. I went to 5 stores today to find it. Your local independent seller or used/new cd stores will probably have them. I got mine from a huge used cd place. Try those places if you can. I do understand the reason why it was pulled. It is a shame that they worked so hard on this & it has to end up this way. In similar news, the recent cover of a flexible eyeglass frame catalog shows the twin towers "flexing" sideways to avoid an airplane. That's another great bit of symbolism that came at the worst possible time. I'm sorry to everyone who has lost someone close to them. God bless you all. See ya, Todd "I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 22:49:23 -0400 From: "Joe DeAngelo" To: Subject: Scenes From N.Y. Message-ID: <004701c13d91$072c98c0$message_id_removed> After failing to find the new album on Thursday at Best Buy and Media Play, I found it today at an independent store that had not pulled it (but said they were waiting for word from the label). For you Detroiters, the place is "Record Time" on Gratiot. - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: DT-Scenes from NY Message-ID: this http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&SortProperty=MetaNewSort&query=scenes+from+new+york&ht=1&st=2 is a friggin shame... I'll check Newbury comics tomorrow, if they didn't yank em, they have them for 18.99 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:54:21 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: frustration Message-ID: --part1_139.19598c3.28d42aed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" did u try vintage vinyl in woodbridge , nj... they are fairly an underground store and doubt theyd pull it thats where i got my copy on wednesday --part1_139.19598c3.28d42aed_boundary ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:17:10 -0700 From: Michael Kizer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT-Scenes from NY Message-ID: At 08:53 PM 9/14/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I'll check Newbury comics tomorrow, if they didn't yank em, they have >them for 18.99 At least one Tower Records here in San Diego, CA had tons of copies... On Wednesday they were behind the front counter, but today they were back in the rack in the normal DT section. ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 01:05:36 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: frustration Message-ID: I live blocks from that place, and maybe I can swindle a ride, toherwise my blind ass is going to have to walk it, something I am not comfortable doing. At 11:53 PM 9/14/2001, you wrote: >--part1_139.19598c3.28d42aed_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >did u try vintage vinyl in woodbridge , nj... they are fairly an underground >store and doubt theyd pull it thats where i got my copy on wednesday > >--part1_139.19598c3.28d42aed_boundary >---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email email_address_removed aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f, web site: http://frontpage.home.net/dfibraio/ coHost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details Band sites: Awake: http://www.geocities.com/awake6am: Mystify: http://www.mystify2001.com "All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars, All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars, Turn around and walk the razor's edge."--Neil Peart of Rush, The Pass ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2001 14:48:22 +0100 From: Graham Borland To: Ytsejam , Thoughts Subject: New DT album Message-ID: I've just been reading the new edition of Classic Rock magazine, and it's got some info from Mike Portnoy about the forthcoming DT studio album. I'm not going to give anything away (buy the magazine if you want to know!), but I'm excited about it. :-) -- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd email_address_removed Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:11:52 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New DT album Message-ID: Can you email me the info... ive never seen this magazine in any of the stores around here... Graham Borland wrote: > I've just been reading the new edition of Classic Rock magazine, and > it's got some info from Mike Portnoy about the forthcoming DT studio > album. > > I'm not going to give anything away (buy the magazine if you want to > know!), but I'm excited about it. :-) > > -- > Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd > email_address_removed Glasgow, Scotland -- Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. 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You have all helped me in the past, but this one might be a tough one :) Jason ------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:25:32 -0400 From: "Rob Pociluk" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: LSFNY on EBAY Message-ID: So everyone knows, I have reported all overpriced copies of LSFNY on EBAY to EBAY's Safe Harbor and I also reported EBAY to New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. This is disrespectful behaviour and nothing short of price gouging. I emailed MP to let him knwo as well. I will keep everyone posted on this. I find it disgusting that people are attempting to profit from this tragedy. Rob Dream Theater : The Official Site - http://www.dreamtheater.net/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5963 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===