YTSEJAM Digest 5939 Today's Topics: 1) Superior plays Prog Power festival Europe! by Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de 2) Michelle --> by Cyberwolf 3) dancing around on stage by "Jan Michael" 4) Re: dancing around on stage by "HJ Rivera" 5) Re: dancing around on stage by WB Henderson 6) My 15 minutes of fame by email_address_removed 7) Re: Vai too rehearsed by Scott Hansen 8) Indonesian Progressive Festival 2001 by "Sigit Prabowo" 9) Saw a nice show :) by email_address_removed 10) Indonesian Prog Festival press release by "Sigit Prabowo" 11) Re: Saw a nice show :) by WB Henderson 12) Spocks Beard by email_address_removed 13) Re: Inspiration Corner by "Sigit Prabowo" 14) Michael Angelo / Nitro (was : Petrucci On Stage) by "Sigit Prabowo" 15) Re: Inspiration Corner by "Sigit Prabowo" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:02:16 +0200 (MEST) From: Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Superior plays Prog Power festival Europe! Message-ID: Hi! Some good news for the European jammers! We will play at the Progpower Festival on October 5th! I hope to meet a lot of jammers there again like it was 2 years ago. We're looking forward to this event very much because it was one of the best organized concerts we have ever played. Hope to see ya there! :) Greetings Bernd Superior ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:02:18 -0400 From: Cyberwolf To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Michelle --> Message-ID: I think you also hit the nail on the head. I appreciate your words in response to mine. Then again this IS a DT/Progressive board, so the opinions and viewpoints herein are expected to run the gamut, but still... Diversity to me, is a godsend, and actually, a requisite characteristic of music and the arts in general. But then, that's my opinion and I maybe wrong.... Scott M. (Progressive activist/musician, Diverse dude, Dr. Pepper Aficianado) http://www.theambientmind.com http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/ http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/mosh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:57:52 -0500 From: "Jan Michael" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: dancing around on stage Message-ID: I could not agree more. DT does not dance around on stage. If someone wants to see band members dancing around, go see some of the Nu-Metal bands jumping around on stage. JM >From: email_address_removed >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: nicholas sakkos' comments in 5934 >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:17:27 -0700 (PDT) > >Rudess IS a real band member(wee..) and DT PLAYS MUSIC, they dont DANCE... > If >you want to see stage coreography, take a look at Backstreet Boys (may god >forbid...) geez.. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:25:15 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" To: Subject: Re: dancing around on stage Message-ID: <002701c12a66$3e1ea0f0$message_id_removed> A little synchronized headbanging and feet shuffling has never hurt anyone. I'd love to see the band pick up more on James' dance moves. joe > I could not agree more. DT does not dance around on stage. If someone > wants to see band members dancing around, go see some of the Nu-Metal bands > jumping around on stage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:33:15 -0400 From: WB Henderson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: dancing around on stage Message-ID: >DT does not dance around on stage. If someone >wants to see band members dancing around, go see some of the Nu-Metal bands >jumping around on stage. Plenty of bands were energetic before nu-metal came along. Ever seen a clip of the Who in concert from back in the day? A little more on-stage energy wouldn't hurt Dream Theater at all, and, remember, moving around and having fun on stage doesn't equal 'dancing'. Of course, all of this is pretty much a moot point, since getting people to come out to their shows is really a problem at these days -- I've never seen them in any less than a near-packed house. Brian [NP...Crowbar -- Sonic Excess In Its Purest Form] ============================================= WB Henderson email_address_removed Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/ Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/ WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/ WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/ ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:58:15 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: My 15 minutes of fame Message-ID: First.. what the Magic Bag did to Spocks Beard Sux Check out Tuesday's edition of the Wall Street Journal, Page B3 That's me ... My only moment of fame :) Dream Theater are gods! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:21:02 -0700 From: Scott Hansen To: Subject: Re: Vai too rehearsed Message-ID: Rob Denni said: > I would like to respond to the person who said that > Vai's set was all rehearsed. Well, my friend, what do > you think JP and Satch's set were, improvised? At > least with Vai's show, I wasn't able to predict what > was about to happen, rehearsed or not. You would have, had you seen more than one show. I saw 3 shows right in a row and everything was exactly the same in Vai's sets - even his comentary between songs was exactly the same! Tell me if this sounds familiar: "It's a great honor and a privilege to be playing for you people tonight." The *only* time I specifically remember him mentioning a city was when he introduced Mike Keneally as San Diego's "homeboy" when they played here. So yes Vai was too rehearsed as if he was on autopilot - there was absolutely nothing different in what (or even how) he played each of the 3 nights I saw him. While I don't expect him to change his set, the commentary could've been a little more personalized and he didn't have to perform every single flashy thing the same every night. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:18:03 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: Indonesian Progressive Festival 2001 Message-ID: <013f01c12aa8$4b055ec0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> Hi all, This is to inform you that prog is also alive and well here in Indonesia. We will be having our own version of ProgFest in Jakarta. The show is scheduled for September 7. It will be on an open-air venue, capacity approx. 1500 people. Headlining the show will be Discus, Indonesia's current hottest prog export. Those of you in the US might remember them from ProgDay 2000, which they played along with Kopecky. Their album, "1st", is available through Mellow Records. On a side note, tomorrow I will be interviewing Mike Portnoy before his clinic at Hard Rock Cafe Jakarta. Sooo excited !! Earlier this year I was MC for John Myung's clinic in Jakarta, so this year I'm very lucky :) Hopefully the band will do a show next year ... BTW we are planning an international-scale festival next year. Daniel Gildenlow and Pain Of Salvation have shown interest to play. We also hope to get a band from the US. Of course we will be recording the prog festival and the MP interview, so anyone interested in MP3s please reserve through my address. Thanks all, and please wish us luck. Progressively yours, Sigit Prabowo np Under The Sun "Seeing Eye God" ---> (now where's the followup to this awesome debut ?????) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:09:31 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Saw a nice show :) Message-ID: --part1_fe.b090287.28b46e5b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This may not exactly be about a prog show but i saw WSOU's riverfront rampage in newark nj. It was great 20 bands from 12 noon till midnight. The show was definitely in a very heavy direction though.. But bands of note from that show would be: Waterdown: God damn these guys are awesome i love there structure of vocals :) Among Thieves: These guys are VERY unique and have a great sound to them There were so many bands on the bill though dunno if u heard of and of em and if u did gimme some album advice :P ...Lamb of god, God Forbid, Thursday, Chaimera, The misfits, Overkill, Vision of disorder, Hatebreed, Shades Apart, Skinlab, Biohazard, and ill nino It was a nice 15 year anniversery for a radio station that regularly plays DT --part1_fe.b090287.28b46e5b_boundary ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:36:13 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: Indonesian Prog Festival press release Message-ID: <019301c12aaa$d42fe4c0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> INDONESIAN PROGRESSIVE SOCIETY proudly present: INDONESIA PROGRESSIVE FESTIVAL 2001 a parade of fresh progressive music Bale Ayer Taman Ria Senayan, Jakarta Friday, September 7th 2001 4 p.m. onwards Headliners: DISCUS This 7-piece band appeared to ProgDay USA 2000 and BajaProg Mexico 2001 and have released their debut album, Discus 1st, on Italian Mellow Records (worldwide) and Aquarius Musikindo (Indonesia). Discus has several other well acclaimed performances during their short tour in USA as well as some local gigs in Jakarta and Bandung. Recently they were honored as the opening band in this year's Jakarta Anniversary. Discus' uniqueness in blending progressive rock with ethnic, jazz and chamber music honored the band as the pioneer in the rebirth of Indonesia's progressive rock. At Indonesian Progressive Festival 2001, Discus will perform highlights from their first album and songs from their forthcoming new album scheduled for release this September! SMESTA Indonesian Neo-prog? This 6-piece band offers us well-composed songs in the Neo-progressive vein. While preparing their debut album, Smesta has performed several times received acknowledge from media. Their first album is scheduled to release also this September. PENDULUM This Indonesian progressive-metal-fusion quartet has countless local gigs experience. Pendulum offers another dimension of progressive-metal-fusion, this all-instrumental band will definitely rock the audience. They will perform songs from their upcoming debut album. The Indonesian Progressive Festival 2001 will be their first time major public appearance as Pendulum! Plus many young progressive bands from major Indonesian universities ABOUT THE VENUE Bale Ayer is a venue inside Taman Ria Senayan complex. Located in central Jakarta this lakeside stage is very popular for its remarkable outdoor environment. Excellent sound system and lighting will definitely highlight progressive music to the outdoor crowd. Ticket price: Rp 50.000,- each except Rp 20.000,- for students (note : that's USD 5.88 and USD 2.35, respectively !) Ticket box : TMC Music, Mall Ambassador. However you can also contact us and book in advance. Please contact us by sending details to our email address below. More Information: Indonesian Progressive Society Secretary Office email: email_address_removed Witness the resurrection of Indonesian progressive music!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:20:18 -0400 From: WB Henderson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Saw a nice show :) Message-ID: >...Lamb of god They only have one album (as far as I know) called "New American Gospel" on Metal Blade. I'm not crazy about the production (particularly drumwise -- the snare bothers me), but it's a solid extreme metal disc. >God Forbid Awesome band, sort of a fusion of thrash, hardcore, and power metal (listen to some of the guitar parts). If you can find it, their album "Reject The Sickness" on 9Volt is real damn fine. Their latest, "Determination", on Century Media is good too (and certainly easier to locate), I just prefer the other one. It's got more 'variation' to it. >Thursday They have an album on Victory called "Full Collapse". Emo-stuff, not really my thing. >ill nino Pretty lame (IMO of course) new signing to Roadrunner, sort of a Sepultura-(ultra)lite. Their debut, which either just came out or will shortly, is called "Revolution...Revolucion". There's a couple tracks in Spanish to prove that they're 'ethnic', and not just another slightly-above-par nurock band... I'm not familiar enough with the entire back catalogs of the other bands to give true all-album recommendations, although I can tell you Overkill's newest one, "Bloodletting", is cool (yet, like that Lamb of God, with a tinny snare...), but that their early '90s albums like "Horrorscope" are also good/better starting points. Additionally, Biohazard's new one "Uncivilization" ain't bad if you're into their sound, VOD's latest, "From Bliss To Devastation", sounds little like their previous releases, and Skinlab's "Disembody: The New Flesh" is a quality piece-o-work. Something else, unrelated. Tool will be touring the US soon with Meshuggah (hot damn!) as support. Old news, most likely, but I haven't seen any mention of it here yet. http://www.toolband.com/tour/index.html Brian [NP...Wayne -- Metal Church] ============================================= WB Henderson email_address_removed Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/ Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/ WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/ WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/ ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:34:52 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Spocks Beard Message-ID: --part1_f8.e8a0ca9.28b4ac8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" If anybody was going to write a letter to the bar that stiffed sb, its all been cleared up now. I wrote a letter to them and here is the reply. <>> --part1_f8.e8a0ca9.28b4ac8c_boundary ---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:09:55 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: Re: Inspiration Corner Message-ID: <03df01c12ad1$10b1be20$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> Trying to complete the list .... > From: "Jxrgen C. Bakken" > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Inspiration Corner > Message-ID: > > Well, I Havn't seen this in here yet, so I thought I come to you and say, > all the bands on DT's mind. > - Nine Inch Nails "Downward Spiral" - Soundgarden "Superunknown" - Tool "Aenima" - Pantera "Far Beyond Driven" - Megadeth "Rust In Peace" - Metallica "Master Of Puppets" - U2 "...." - Galactic Cowboys "Space In Your Face" - King's X "Faith Hope Love" - Nine Inch Nails "Dirt" - Kevin Gilbert "Thud" - Radiohead "Kid A" - Radiohead bootleg - Rage Against The Machine "The Battle Of Los Angeles" - (Bela) Bartok - Maria Tipo "Chopin Nocturnes" Cheers, Sigit np Pain Of Salvation "Stress" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:15:50 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: Michael Angelo / Nitro (was : Petrucci On Stage) Message-ID: <03e901c12ad1$e3f4fea0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 06:48:17 EDT > From: email_address_removed > To: > Subject: Re: Petrucci on stage > Message-ID: > even original. If anyone has seen the guy from Nitro on the "Metal Methods" instructional video, you'd see that guy does the same thing, and I'm almost certain he was around before Vai... > That's Michael Angelo Batio, I think the first guitarist with a v-shaped double-neck guitar. He also had an x-shaped four-neck version, with 29 frets each ! I just found out that he's still around, and has his own label (on www.angelo.com). Michael Fath and Kopecky are on that label also. I think Angelo's work has gone on the progressive side. I'm thinking about ordering his latter solo albums ... does anybody have any comment about those albums ? Cheers, Sigit Prabowo np Pain Of Salvation "Revival" yes I'm listening to Entropia for the 3rd time today .... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:24:39 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: Re: Inspiration Corner Message-ID: <040f01c12ad3$1f40efe0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> Self correction .... should be : Alice In Chains "Dirt" Radiohead "The Bends" what was I thinking ???? cheers, Sigit still on entropia ... > Trying to complete the list .... > > > From: "Jxrgen C. Bakken" > > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > > Subject: Inspiration Corner > > Message-ID: > > > > Well, I Havn't seen this in here yet, so I thought I come to you and say, > > all the bands on DT's mind. > > > - Nine Inch Nails "Downward Spiral" > - Soundgarden "Superunknown" > - Tool "Aenima" > - Pantera "Far Beyond Driven" > - Megadeth "Rust In Peace" > - Metallica "Master Of Puppets" > - U2 "...." > - Galactic Cowboys "Space In Your Face" > - King's X "Faith Hope Love" > - Nine Inch Nails "Dirt" > - Kevin Gilbert "Thud" > - Radiohead "Kid A" > - Radiohead bootleg > - Rage Against The Machine "The Battle Of Los Angeles" > - (Bela) Bartok > - Maria Tipo "Chopin Nocturnes" > > Cheers, > Sigit > np Pain Of Salvation "Stress" > ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5939 ************************** === Contributions to ytsejam: ytsejam@torchsong.com === === Send requests to: ytsejam-request@torchsong.com === === Brought by the ghost of ytsejam@arastar.coms past === === Reach the owner of this list at: ytsejam-owner@torchsong.com ===