YTSEJAM Digest 5908

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: stars' autographs
 by Phil Carter <email_address_removed>
  2) Re: Tori Amos - Fiona Apple (non DT)
 by email_address_removed
  3) Re: Tori Amos - Fiona Apple (non DT)
 by email_address_removed
  4) RE:  G3 Recruiting Mission
 by "Joe DeAngelo" <email_address_removed>
  5) RE:Tori Amos - Fiona Apple (non DT)
 by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
  6) RE: AudioGalaxy Spyware...
 by "Andreas Skarin" <sdts@sdts.nu>
  7) G3 in atlanta
 by rob denni <email_address_removed>
  8) Fiona Apple
 by email_address_removed
  9) My new CD VIRTUALITY & some G3 Raleigh quick comments
 by Cyberwolf <email_address_removed>

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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:18:46 -0400
From: Phil Carter <email_address_removed>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: stars' autographs
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

Me:
>> Just don't expect much in the way of autographs afterwards. Bah! 

Graham B., in response:
>And getting stars' autographs is why we all love music, right? It's SO
>important!!! Just think how many chicks you can get when you show off
>your mighty autograph collection!

Graham, you are cordially invited to fuck off. 

I expect nothing from band members. If they want to slip out the back door
without so much as a "thanks for coming" to the fans, that's their right. 

But I am eternally impressed by people like Portnoy, Mike Keneally, and
Steve Morse, who will cheerfully chat with fans until practically dragged
onto the departing bus. 

It's not the autographs I want. It's the chance to talk to the musicians
and tell them how much I've enjoyed their music over the years. I've been a
Satriani fan for fifteen years and have been to over twenty of his shows,
but circumstances have always prevented me from attending meet n' greets or
talking to the man afterwards. The venue this time was one that lends
itself extremely well for brief meetings with the fans afterwards and I've
gotten to meet several of my favorites that way. Thirty seconds is all it
would have taken for me to say hi and tell him how much happiness his music
has given me. Instead he just vanished. I was disappointed, not angry.

I don't look on signatures as a badge of honor or something to be sold on
Ebay, but rather pleasant memories from when I got to shake the hand of
some of my favorite musicians and tell them thanks. Their answering smile
is reward enough -- the autograph itself is just the tangible proof. 

cheers,
Phil

===================================
Phil Carter -- artoo (at) bellsouth (dot) net
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/~artoo
"Music is moonlight in the gloomy night of life."
	-- Jean Paul Richter


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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:55:17 EDT
From: email_address_removed
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Tori Amos - Fiona Apple (non DT)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

> For all of you Tori Amos fans out there... Have you
> ever listened to Fiona Apple?

Definitely. I got When The Pawn first and really liked all the jazzy stuff in there. I do like Fast As You Can a lot though, which was probably on MTV. I just got her first album, Tidal, yesterday and have only listened to it once so far but it's the same type of thing. Good stuff. Also, check out her cover of "Across The Universe" from the Pleasantville soundtrack. I love that song (her version at least, the original Beatles version sounds horrible to me <duck>).

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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 22:22:33 EDT
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Tori Amos - Fiona Apple (non DT)
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


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In a message dated 7/20/2001 2:19:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
email_address_removed writes:

><   For all of you Tori Amos fans out there... Have you ever listened to 
Fiona Apple? I've been listening to her discs, and I was surprised. All I had 
heard before were her MTV hits, and I assumed her to be another Tori wannabe. 
Turns out she's pretty good (if you like the piano/strings/pop/jazz style). 
She writes all her own material, and seems to enjoy staying in minor keys. 
Anyone else ever give her a try?   ><

Yeah, Fiona's great. She's no Tori Amos, but she's still very good. All I 
ever knew of her's was "Criminal" which was so-so, but then I rented the 
Pleasantville DVD and saw her cover of "Across the Universe" and absolutely 
loved it. It's also one of the best videos I've ever seen, but I'm a big PTA 
mark.

Sleep To Dream, The First Taste and Shadowboxer are all great songs from her 
first album, although I can't really respect any lyrics that use the word 
"baby" so unashamedly.

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Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:03:49 -0400
From: "Joe DeAngelo" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE:  G3 Recruiting Mission
Message-ID: <001301c11191$c3d48720$message_id_removed>

Phil Carter said:
> Just don't expect much in the way of autographs afterwards. Bah!

Graham Borland replied:
>And getting stars' autographs is why we all love music, right? It's SO
>important!!! Just think how many chicks you can get when you show off
>your mighty autograph collection!


Graham, first of all Phil said nothing of the kind, why are you putting
words in his mouth?   Secondly - Most of us here know that Phil is somebody
who truly appreciates music as much as ANYBODY else.  The fact that he was
hoping to get some autographs (of musicians he admires) as a little bonus...
what's so wrong with that?

- Joe D.







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Date:   Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:34:00 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE:Tori Amos - Fiona Apple (non DT)
Message-ID: <000201c111af$20c64be0$0100007f@localhost>


  Brian Hansen wrote:

> For all of you Tori Amos fans out there... Have you
> ever listened to Fiona Apple? I've been listening to
> her discs, and I was surprised. All I had heard before
> were her MTV hits, and I assumed her to be another
> Tori wannabe. Turns out she's pretty good (if you like
> the piano/strings/pop/jazz style). She writes all her
> own material, and seems to enjoy staying in minor
> keys.
>
> Anyone else ever give her a try?

  I love Fiona Apple... I thought her debut album "Tidal" was great,
  but "When The Pawn..." is even better... She has a very deep, warm
  and jazzy voice that I can never get enough of... She's definitely
  no Tori Amos wannabe (who, BTW, I love as well).

  Mark Bredius
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Visit http://prognews.planetitchy.com/ for the latest news on
  Dream Theater, Spock's Beard, TransAtlantic, Porcupine Tree &
  Steve Hogarth of Marillion. - - - http://www.planetitchy.com/


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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:30:35 +0200
From: "Andreas Skarin" <sdts@sdts.nu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: AudioGalaxy Spyware...
Message-ID: <000001c111bf$6b598860$482741d5@35qzmqv9b3>

While where on the subject of spyware, does anyone know if ICQ is up to
something malicious without one's knowledge? I was just thinking since
I'm installing it right now.

Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater-Sdllskapet
http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On 
> Behalf Of Souter, Jan-Michael
> Sent: den 20 juli 2001 14:04
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: AudioGalaxy Spyware...
> 
> 
> Yes it has worked just fine for me.  Uninstalling the 
> WebHancer has not
> caused a single internet connectivity issue. 
> I'm afraid that was also some bad press or rumor that uninstalling the
> program will cause trouble.  It makes the less-informed weary 
> of removing
> it.  That program has nothing to do with dialup networking 
> and such so how
> the &#^@ could it interrupt connectivity??  haha  
> 
>  JM
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	email_address_removed [SMTP:email_address_removed
> > Sent:	Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:37 PM
> > To:	Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject:	Re: AudioGalaxy Spyware...
> > 
> > >Andrew Coutermarsh replied:
> > >
> > >> 	For those of you who use AudioGalaxy, you should be aware that
> > >> it has a Spyware component called 'webhancer'.  This 
> component uploads
> > >> information about what web sites you visit to a remote 
> site.  Be very
> > >> careful if you try to remove this webhancer program 
> yourself since it
> > >> can cause system problems if you don't do it correctly.  
> See these web
> > >> pages for more information.
> > >
> > >Well, you can refuse to install WebHancer when you install 
> AudioGalaxy.  
> > >That's what I did when I first installed it.
> > >
> > >And I, too, will swear by AdAware.  It's a great piece of 
> software and it
> > >will remove any spyware from your system automatically.
> > >
> > 
> > 	Have you confirmed via a process manager (such as "Another Task
> > Manager" http://idic.caos.it/atm/higheng.html) that 
> webhancer is actually
> > not running?  Just checking...  :)
> > 
> > 
> > JM wrote:
> > >Correct.  If you do accidentally install it, just go to 
> the control panel
> > >and go to  add/remove programs and get rid of it.  Piece of cake. 
> > >
> > 	According to the one page, doing that may cause you problems:
> > http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory&sid 01/3/8/85932/50858
> > 	Did it work for you?  It sounds like it works sometimes but
> > not others.  AdAware is probably a safer alternative.
> > 
> > 				Steve
> > 
> 


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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 06:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: rob denni <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: G3 in atlanta
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

I affirm that the Atlanta show was awesome of course. 
I and some friends of mine were at the backstage area
since around 10:30 or 11:00 and managed to scare
Virgil into signing autographs for us!  WE also saw MP
right when he woke up moving his camera equipment
inside.  All the guys from Vai's band were there
including Vai himself being the cool dude he is.  He
signed my friends guitar and posed for some pix that
were really cool.  Mike Keneally was the coolest,
almost seeming like he wanted to be there and talk
most of the time.  It was a great experience even
though my friends and I were burned from the sun! 
I've never seen Vai in concert before, and let me tell
you, the price of admission would have been worth it
if it was just Vai playing for the hour he did without
JP or Satch.  He has total control over the instrument
like I've never seen before.  I wasn't too into
Satches set, so we went upstairs and started drinking
beer.  The jam session was cool too.  I'm sure there
are setlists out there for the ppl who haven't gone.  
 

====
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3008 Tallwood Way 
Augusta, GA  30906
(706) 790-8937
Go visit my website! http://home.talkcity.com/HeadbangersHwy/funkygroove/index.html

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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:37:49 EDT
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Fiona Apple
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


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Just figured I'd touch up on Fiona a little.  I am a fan but it is because 
Fiona is my 2nd cousin.  I have only met her once in my life, and we were 
both very young at the time.  I really like her first album "Tidal" because 
it is more catchy.  "When the Pawn" is a little too, well, "concept album"-ey 
for me.  It's neat to have famous family, even though I bet that she wouldn't 
even know who I was if I did meet her again, but it is neat nonetheless.  

Jeremy P. Kube
Student/Consultant
Oklahoma State University
School of Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology
Office of Radiation Safety
email_address_removed


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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:39:42 -0400
From: Cyberwolf <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: My new CD VIRTUALITY & some G3 Raleigh quick comments
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

Howdy all. Normally I lurk in the shadows, posting some insane ramblings or
sociopathic comments from time to time, but now I must divulge that my new CD is
officially out. The music is somewhat dark, atmospheric and
combines progressive rock, new age and trance-inspired melodies. Please feel
free to Check it out, just don't wreck yourself in the process. I don't want to
be held responsible for fractured limbs, dilapidated bodies, or misplaced organs
(or pianos).

Seriously, I would appreciate any and all feedback. If anyone is interested in
obtaining a copy, please email me.

PS: I was at the Petrucci/Portnoy meet & greet in Raliegh, NC and the turnout
was more than expected, so I am sure the guys were happy about that. Didn't make
it to the show though, as I had a previous engagement, but with all these "G
Theater" rumors flittin' about, I wish I made it.

http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/sounds/

Thanks... Peace!
Scott Mosher


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