YTSEJAM Digest 5882 Today's Topics: 1) Requiem For a Dream by "Joe DeAngelo" 2) Requiem For a Dream / Pi by "Joe DeAngelo" 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5881 by CyberDuke 4) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5881 by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" 5) Annual Fan Club CD by "Rob Pociluk" 6) re: contest confirmation! by email_address_removed 7) Re: Planet X Concert by Niall Connaughton 8) Penis Enlargement/Lengthening Secrets Now Revealed . by email_address_removed 9) Save Up to 70% On Your Life Insurance -FREE Quote by lifequotes@chat.ru 10) This spam has gone too far. by Graham Borland 11) Re: This spam has gone too far. by Graham Boyle 12) Re: This spam has gone too far. by Graham Borland 13) Re: This spam has gone too far. by "Nicholas Sakkos" 14) Re: This spam has gone too far. by "Rob Pociluk" 15) Dream Theater- Apple by "Eyal Ben David" 16) Re: Dream Theater- Apple by "Shadow Mage" 17) Re: Dream Theater- Apple by "HJ Rivera" 18) Re: This spam has gone too far. by Graham Borland 19) a small test by Ryan P Skadberg 20) More testing by Ryan P Skadberg 21) Filters and Stuff ... by Ryan P Skadberg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:58:20 -0400 From: "Joe DeAngelo" To: Subject: Requiem For a Dream Message-ID: <002101c0f453$f5dc6ae0$message_id_removed> > I noticed the tapes at my local video store were listed as "edited version" > -- anybody know the difference(s) between it and the non-edited? > Brian There's one fairly disturbing sex scene that is missing (or altered) in the edited version, also I believe some of the drug-use scenes are softened up a bit. I know the unrated version is available on DVD... not sure about VHS though. - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:01:19 -0400 From: "Joe DeAngelo" To: Subject: Requiem For a Dream / Pi Message-ID: <002b01c0f454$60860540$message_id_removed> Nicholas said: >I liked Aronofski's previous film better that's >called "Pi".It's been described as a mathematical thriller.You can >find on vhs. As a quick note.... Pi is also available on DVD now. - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:43:29 +0200 From: CyberDuke To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5881 Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed > To: > Subject: Re:Registration Confirmation 6 > Message-ID: <00005b8d53d1$00004e64$00005d2e@192.168.0.20> > > To: Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5881 Message-ID: <019501c0f46f$a8f01f30$message_id_removed> Maybe he's getting a kick back from the spammers! :) tk -----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of CyberDuke Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5881 > From: email_address_removed > To: > Subject: Re:Registration Confirmation 6 > Message-ID: <00005b8d53d1$00004e64$00005d2e@192.168.0.20> > > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Annual Fan Club CD Message-ID: Possibly reading the fall out? The DT site has an update in which the fan club will continue giving us a "Free Annual CD" with our yearly memembership. I wonder if someone reads the shit on here after all. LOL! Ok, so now I will renew for the CD. Rob Dream Theater : The Official Site - http://www.dreamtheater.net/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:01:36 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: re: contest confirmation! Message-ID: Thank you for entering.

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Or, failing that, does anyone know how the hell we can get him to LISTEN to our complaints??? -- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd email_address_removed Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:06:16 +1000 From: Graham Boyle To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: This spam has gone too far. Message-ID: Graham Borland wrote: > The spam is now way way beyond a joke. You lot are worrying too much. Switch to ack mode. I get spam from the jam, I look at the subject and delete. I don't read it, nor does it bother me enough to leave the list or call Skadz any childish names. It's pretty easy really. the-other-graham ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 2001 12:23:55 +0100 From: Graham Borland To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: This spam has gone too far. Message-ID: Graham Boyle writes: > I don't read it, nor does it bother me enough to leave the list or > call Skadz any childish names. Since Skadz doesn't actually read or pay attention to the jam, we can safely call him anything we want. :-P -- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd email_address_removed Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 06:10:46 +0200 From: "Nicholas Sakkos" To: Subject: Re: This spam has gone too far. Message-ID: <002a01bad7ff$22a85740$ccdf6693@-----> >Or, failing that, does anyone know how the hell we can get him to >LISTEN to our complaints??? > he's not answering to private emails either? Btw,what is his email address ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:45:01 -0400 From: "Rob Pociluk" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: This spam has gone too far. Message-ID: I second this. I usually scan subject lines for things that interest me anyway, regardless if its Dream Theater related or if it's about penis enlargement. On ACK mode, it's all the same. I am not someone who enjoys repeated threats anyway, so the SPAM just falls into that bucket. Rob ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: This spam has gone too far. Graham Borland wrote: > The spam is now way way beyond a joke. You lot are worrying too much. Switch to ack mode. I get spam from the jam, I look at the subject and delete. I don't read it, nor does it bother me enough to leave the list or call Skadz any childish names. It's pretty easy really. the-other-graham ---- End Original Message ---- Dream Theater : The Official Site - http://www.dreamtheater.net/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:22:18 +0200 From: "Eyal Ben David" To: Subject: Dream Theater- Apple Message-ID: <002301c0f4e5$d002b3a0$79e0cbc7@none> The Shadow Mage wrote this: > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:55:11 -0500 > From: "Shadow Mage" > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Re: 3CD set > Message-ID: > > > Someone said: > > >< > > OK, maybe Producer isn't the word I wanted. I'm not really into the whole > recording thing, but some bands MAKE THEIR OWN RECORDS WITHOUT A LABEL > LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER. Maybe that's what I was trying to say. Look > at some of our local bands, like Back Porch Mary, for example. BPM has only > released one album, but it was mass-produced and everything. They made it > on their own, as far as I know, and the music is (obviously) not commercial > or sales-oriented. It's BPM-oriented. The music is made to sound like the > band wants it to sound, not like what some guy in a suit says it needs to > sound like. Someone else mentioned something similar to this, if DT got > their own studio and made their own albums. My point was that they could do > it, if they had the money. If we screw them out of, oh, say two million > sales (I'm sure there are at least that many people who download albums > instead of buying them), or half of all the albums OFB had sold prior to the > release of SFAM, they will not be able to afford to do this. The other guy > that mentioned this had the same idea that I did, he just was a little more > clear about what he meant. When it comes to the technical/technology side > of music, yes, I am stupid. But Steve Unruh, Back Porch Mary, Sharkey's > Little Groove Box, The Moody Hooters, Bitter Sane, and several other local > bands have tried this method and it works. DT could do it on a much larger > scale, since they have a much larger audience. They could get a "real" > studio, and make millions of CDs instead of thousands (yes, some of these > local bands have made over a thousand records). I know it can't be all that > hard, because Steve Unruh is a good friend of mine who makes his CDs (his > third, a two-disk Progressive-Rock/Folk album, just came out) in his free > time between 19 hours of college classes a week. His ability to have > complete control over the music shows in every song he writes. Anyway, I > hope I didn't lose everyone here. But I think you all get the idea/point. I think you fail to grasp the meaning of producing an album without a label. Producing a world wide mass production album, which means owning a studio and paying all the people involved with the production, negotiating with local and foreign distributers, hiring people to handle the financial aspect, organizing the tours, negotiating with the booking agencys. Dream Theater hasn't got the money for an "Apple" like company, nor the expirience nor the time. With all do respect, I think that this Idea is a bit too far fetched... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:46:36 -0500 From: "Shadow Mage" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater- Apple Message-ID: "Eyal Ben David" sed: >< Far-fetched? I'll be the first to say that it's f*ckin' crazy! But it's a good idea nonetheless, is it not? That's what I hate most about trying to make an anti-Napster (or anti-CD-burning, or whatever) argument: it doesn't ever seem to make any significant difference one way or the other. Our local bands, who pay for their own shows and CDs, would be killed if their stuff was on some free website. I guess it doesn't really make much difference for DT, but it's the concept, the moral, of the thing that should matter. I don't think even I know what I'm talking about anymore, so I'm just gonna drop this. It's been fun, though; it's kinda kept the jam alive, along with a few other choice arguments. For a while, we had more posts than SPAMs. I was just going through my old October 2000-era backed up Jams, and I noticed that we got about 30 messages a day, and about 2 SPAMs a week. And we talked about Prog all the time! --96 P.S. Because this used to be a very popular question, whatever happened to KorgX3? We need someone to liven this place up a bit... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:06:02 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" To: Subject: Re: Dream Theater- Apple Message-ID: <00f101c0f4e3$873c1870$message_id_removed> >Our local bands, who pay for their own shows and CDs, would be killed if their > stuff was on some free website. You really think so? I've discovered hundreds of "local" bands because of Napster and/or websites. A few months ago, Vanishing Point was a little unknown band from Australia, now you can't go to a prog site without seeing them mentioned. Free mp3s and word of mouth help the smaller bands be heard places their local promotion would never get to. joe ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 2001 16:30:58 +0100 From: Graham Borland To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: This spam has gone too far. Message-ID: Graham Borland writes: > The spam is now way way beyond a joke. Just following up my own posting. Earlier today I sent a rather strongly-worded message to Skadz complaining about the spam and his apparent lack of interest in the jam. I just got a reply saying he'll be putting more filters in place and moving to a different server, etc. So I'm hopeful we might see an improvement over the next week or so. :-) -- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd email_address_removed Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:33:57 -0400 From: Ryan P Skadberg To: email_address_removed Subject: a small test Message-ID: Running a quick test. Skadz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan P Skadberg E: email_address_removed Director of Technology U: http://www.mindstorm.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG fingerprint = 38A2 FF47 8FE3 B86A 7C68 6ECF 947D 4E9F 5FA9 637C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:10:04 -0400 From: Ryan P Skadberg To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: More testing Message-ID: Yes, I am testing more :) Skadz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan P Skadberg E: email_address_removed Director of Technology U: http://www.mindstorm.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG fingerprint = 38A2 FF47 8FE3 B86A 7C68 6ECF 947D 4E9F 5FA9 637C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---YTSEJAM-FILTER: This message was posted using the YML command ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:14:28 -0400 From: Ryan P Skadberg To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Filters and Stuff ... Message-ID: OK, I stole Jeroen's filter system for Freaks and put it in place on the jam. I will send out a longer email detailing all that it does at some point in the future, but I just wanted to let everyone know it is there. It's mean, be prepared :) But when you get a reject mail, read it, because there is a secret in the mail :) I went and saw Mourning Widows last night, Nuno's new band. They were awesome. Definately check them out if you have a chance. Not exactly prog, but definately something I think people out there will like. Skadz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan P Skadberg E: email_address_removed Director of Technology U: http://www.mindstorm.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG fingerprint = 38A2 FF47 8FE3 B86A 7C68 6ECF 947D 4E9F 5FA9 637C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---YTSEJAM-FILTER: This message was posted using the YML command ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5882 **************************