YTSEJAM Digest 5863 Today's Topics: 1) Guitarists trying DT by Ralf van Thuijl 2) 8-string bass by "Awake ." 3) Subject: Re: in case anybody is wondering abooot JM's 8 string bass by Mike Patrick 4) Re: DT in pub gig?! by email_address_removed 5) Hurry While Rates Are LOW!!! 26461 by email_address_removed 6) Bernd/Superior by Barbara Battaglia 7) 'First DT songs for guitarists' thing by "Shadow Mage" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:37:43 +0200 From: Ralf van Thuijl To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Guitarists trying DT Message-ID: In the last digest (5861) Charles Farell asked a question about DT fans playing DT stuff. I know quite some guitarists in my neighbourhood who try to play Dream Theater, because practicing their songs, can simply make you a good guitarist. I started out playing the guitar 11 years ago, and played a lot of Metallica and Megadeth. After a few years of playing I discovered DT and ever since I've been practicing on a lot of their songs. The songs on IAW are great for the intermediate guitarist. I started with TTT and Metropolis, and it really helped me develop my skills and I must say I still learn new stuff from Mr. Petrucci. The only thing that really bugs me at the moment, is the fact that on Awake and LTE, a lot of 7-string guitars were used. And I don't have one! (Maybe I should buy the new signature model? :) ) I have a question: I got this mpg video from the net with Petrucci playing a song, which I can't really place. It sounds very familiar but I can't find it on any of the records. I think it might be on LTE II? It sounds a lot like Biaxident. Can anyone help me out? In the end he says: "Something like that, so....." He still plays on his Ibanez so I think the movie is at least older than 2 years. The movie is about 5 megs and it is about 3 minutes long. I really need to know the riffs in this song, because it sounds very cool to play. It's probably just me, because I had this before with another song. It took me a full day of listening to DT to find out which song it was. Because many riffs sound alike. Thankz, Raffel ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 2001 13:46:11 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: email_address_removed Subject: 8-string bass Message-ID: Check out John Paul Jones' album "Zooma" if you want to know what these things sound like. JPJ plays 8-, 10- and 12-string basses throughout, and let me be the first to say: Oh. My. God. Seriously, until you've heard it, you can't even BEGIN to imagine what these things sound like in the hands of players like JPJ or JM. Heavy duty. I have a Digitech pitch shifter in my rig to approximate the sound, because it adds so much clarity to the bottom end. Thankyou for you attention in this plug for John Paul Jones (www.johnpauljones.com)! ~SJD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Patrick To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subject: Re: in case anybody is wondering abooot JM's 8 string bass Message-ID: Actually, DT toured with Galactic Cowboys (I think Monty played one as someone already mentioned), but they also toured with Big Wreck (crappy reception from DT fans, KICK ASS band if you've ever seen them on their own), and their bass player really kicked it out on an 8-string as well. Very underrated player and criminally buried in the mix on their album. Anyway, it just seems the 8-strings provides a much fatter sound, leaving me to wonder why they're not used more than they are. Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Besides, I somehow can't see MP agreeing to do a pub gig. >< Well they did make a guest appearance playing on stage at a small pub in Holland with Nick and Neal of Spock's Beard. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:43:38 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: Subject: Hurry While Rates Are LOW!!! 26461 Message-ID: <0000089d7c32$000032b5$message_id_removed.ar ([61.48.316.4]) by ris5s2.daidacenott14sere1.chuea.cesaimtv.net.ie (8.9.1a/8.9.1/1.0) with SMTP id NAE11975 ([217.45.256.4])> Shopping For Your Loan Just Got Easier! Tap into Our Huge Network Of Lenders. We Provide a 100% FREE Service! 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It's been a long time since I started trying to learn DT stuff, but I know I just learned the first half of "Home" this week. Of course, I tried to learn ACOS once (thanks to Chris Ptacek and all at http://www.dsrmusic.com/metaltab/catacombs.htm), but I'm not coordinated enough to do the fast runs in the middle (or in "Scarred," for that matter...). Being a lowly more-or-less-self-taught guitarist of two years sucks when you're trying to learn how to play technically precise stuff. Anyway, I didn't try to learn TSM or Metropolis right off, and only briefly looked at the music for those two when I needed something to play for a few minutes. Anyone have any good tips for improving my chops or learning to play songs without buying tablature books? I know, I know, I suck, but I guess that's life. Later, --96 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5863 **************************