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------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:21:14 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" To: Subject: RE: G3 in Chicago Message-ID: <004301c0e393$a0ae9eb0$message_id_removed> When and where in Chicago. I hadn't seem anything about them being there yet. If I go, I'll be driving from Ames Iowa. tk Todd O. Klindt, MCSE email_address_removed "Remember, the government doesn't create one dollar. When you get a dollar, that means the government took it from someone else." -Governor Jesse Ventura -----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of Sarah Rudolph Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: G3 in Chicago Hi there folks Just thought I'd ask if anyone else is going to the G3 in Chicago. I'm driving there with a few people from Minnesota and I'm already getting excited. Sarah NP: Tool - Lateralus AIM: reklessfabl MSN: email_address_removed ICQ: 77502715 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:24:49 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" To: Subject: RE: G3 in Chicago Message-ID: <004401c0e394$20580c00$message_id_removed> Okay, I found it. July 10th at the Riviera. tk -----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of Sarah Rudolph Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: G3 in Chicago Hi there folks Just thought I'd ask if anyone else is going to the G3 in Chicago. I'm driving there with a few people from Minnesota and I'm already getting excited. Sarah NP: Tool - Lateralus AIM: reklessfabl MSN: email_address_removed ICQ: 77502715 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:15:31 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: errors Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33F63@ISDCRE00> Yeah, I've posted messages to the 'Jam and since I'm in single-message mode I usually see them show up in my mailbox right away. Here lately I've been getting FAILURE notices from them. <> The messages eventually show up but I sense errors in Torchsong-land. > -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Borland [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:46 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: ??? > > > "Dark Majesty" writes: > > > Is anyone else experiencing/annoyed by the Jam not coming every now and > > then, and then all of a sudden having about a hundred messages in your > > inbox? I'm in ACK mode, and about every other week or so there'll be > two or > > three days where no messages will come, and then I get around a hundred > of > > them at once. > > Whenever a new digest is sent out, all the people in digest mode send > their replies. That's probably why you get the messages in Clusters. > > -- > Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd > email_address_removed Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:49:10 +1000 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: Jason Becker Message-ID: <007101c0e29c$129b0a20$913636cb@PaulTadday> In 1989 I was heavily into alot of the Mike Varney/Shrapnel releases including the stuff by Becker/Friedman when they recorded the Cacophony albums. I must admit to being pretty ignorant as far as what happened to Jason Becker apart from knowing that he was stricken down in 1990 with some nerve disease that ended his ability to play guitar. I've read a few things on the net about how he's still battling the disease but how there is also a new cd coming out and a tribute cd also. I checked out his website at www.jasonbecker.com and believe me, this guy is truly amazing! What a story of human spirit and courage! I'm not usually the type of person who gets caught up in all of that type of stuff but I always thought Becker was awesome and I'm more inspired than ever and thought I'd share it with the Jam! Anyway, my point is that if you haven't caught up with what's what with Jason Becker, check out his page and do some learning, I sure as hell did! Paul. ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 2001 13:54:09 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: email_address_removed Subject: samey, samey Message-ID: ]From: "James C. Shields" Subject: Re: Other people's perceptions >One thing I've noticed is that, for people who aren't >fans of a particular genre, almost any single band's >songs in that genre is going to sound pretty >much the same. Take, for example, Fear Factory's >obsolete. When I first heard it, I felt that it was all >pretty much the same song over and over. Well, Obsolete IS pretty similar through-and-through (and that's from a HUGE Fear Factory fan - got all their albums, seen 'em twice). Lars Ulrich says something about a lot of metal fans not just LIKING the similarity, but NEEDING it. Remember that sign on the DVD - "METAL our RELIGION, DREAM THEATER our GODS"? Metal serves the same function for a certain group of people that religion does for others: it offers them something stable and certain in a world that is constantly changing in ways that scare them. >Erotomania is a wanky instrumental; Well, yes and no. I hate the main riff; but the mid- section is so fantastic that it more than makes up for it. There's very little POINTLESS shred in it, which is what so many people object to - in fact, depending upon one's definition, there is NO shred in Erotomania - some very fast playing, yes, but no directionless widdling. Well, maybe a bit of legato, but other than that... >ACoS has wanky instrumental parts I don't agree with this; despite being a twenty minute song, ACoS is remarkably lean for a Dream Theater song on the record, although there is some pointless shred on the DVD version, granted (in TDoW). >The silent man is a more chill, clean guitar-driven >song; again, ACoS has parts similar to that. I remember someone on here ages ago saying that TSM would fit very nicely if DT played with YES; for that matter, it'd probably fit into YES' actual SET!! So that one I half-expected her to enjoy 'cos she likes YES, and him to enjoy 'cos it's a really cool little Crowded House-esque number. On the one hand, I probably should stop trying to convert people to DT fans, but on ther other hand, I - and I think most people fanatical enough about it to be on the 'Jam - derive such pleasure from listening to this incredible music that I want other people who I know to share that. And there's nout wrong with that! :) ~SJD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:39:56 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: samey, samey Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33F80@ISDCRE00> Keep fighting the GOOD fight. I want many others to hear DT as well. JM > -----Original Message----- > From: Awake . [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:14 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: samey, samey > > > ]From: "James C. Shields" > Subject: Re: Other people's perceptions > > >One thing I've noticed is that, for people who aren't > >fans of a particular genre, almost any single band's > >songs in that genre is going to sound pretty > >much the same. Take, for example, Fear Factory's > >obsolete. When I first heard it, I felt that it was all > >pretty much the same song over and over. > > Well, Obsolete IS pretty similar through-and-through (and > that's from a HUGE Fear Factory fan - got all their > albums, seen 'em twice). Lars Ulrich says something about > a lot of metal fans not just LIKING the similarity, but > NEEDING it. Remember that sign on the DVD - "METAL our > RELIGION, DREAM THEATER our GODS"? Metal serves the same > function for a certain group of people that religion does > for others: it offers them something stable and certain > in a world that is constantly changing in ways that scare > them. > > >Erotomania is a wanky instrumental; > > Well, yes and no. I hate the main riff; but the mid- > section is so fantastic that it more than makes up for it. > There's very little POINTLESS shred in it, which is what > so many people object to - in fact, depending upon one's > definition, there is NO shred in Erotomania - some very > fast playing, yes, but no directionless widdling. Well, > maybe a bit of legato, but other than that... > > >ACoS has wanky instrumental parts > > I don't agree with this; despite being a twenty minute > song, ACoS is remarkably lean for a Dream Theater song on > the record, although there is some pointless shred on the > DVD version, granted (in TDoW). > > >The silent man is a more chill, clean guitar-driven > >song; again, ACoS has parts similar to that. > > I remember someone on here ages ago saying that TSM would > fit very nicely if DT played with YES; for that matter, > it'd probably fit into YES' actual SET!! So that one I > half-expected her to enjoy 'cos she likes YES, and him to > enjoy 'cos it's a really cool little Crowded House-esque > number. > > On the one hand, I probably should stop trying to convert > people to DT fans, but on ther other hand, I - and I > think most people fanatical enough about it to be on > the 'Jam - derive such pleasure from listening to this > incredible music that I want other people who I know to > share that. And there's nout wrong with that! :) > > ~SJD > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:28:41 -0500 From: "Shadow Mage" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: errors Message-ID: I've been getting those too. I sent the message that started this "thread" two or three days ago, and just now got it with 21 other messages. Yesterday I found a Failure notice in my Inbox. So it must be something internal, or I would at least get my OWN messages when I send them. Another wasted handful of change, --96 >mode I usually see them show up in my mailbox right away. Here lately I've been getting FAILURE notices from them. <> The messages eventually show up but I sense errors in Torchsong-land.>< _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:22:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: ??? Message-ID: yeah, it's happened to me also. i just assumed that something was quirky with the server due to the SPAM filters that are supposedly getting put in place. i must say, though i've still received a couple `o spams here and there, it deffinetly isn't the several dozen a day like it used to be. good job skadz, if indeed this was your doing. big improvement. anyhow, back to the ACK thing. i don't know what the deal is with the delayed messages. skadz, maybe a word or two on this as well??? On Wed, 23 May 2001, Dark Majesty wrote: > > Is anyone else experiencing/annoyed by the Jam not coming every now and > then, and then all of a sudden having about a hundred messages in your > inbox? I'm in ACK mode, and about every other week or so there'll be two or > three days where no messages will come, and then I get around a hundred of > them at once. Since I'm in ACK mode, I shouldn't be affected by the > not-enough-messages-to-complete-a-jam syndrome, should I? As far as I know, > every message goes to the ACK users as soon as the main server or whatever > gets the message. Anyone know what's up? Maybe it's shut down while they > try to get the SPAM filters in place? Has this even happened to anyone > else? > > Later, > > --96 > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:25:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: ??? Message-ID: On Wed, 23 May 2001, Graham Borland wrote: > > "Dark Majesty" writes: > > > Is anyone else experiencing/annoyed by the Jam not coming every now and > > then, and then all of a sudden having about a hundred messages in your > > inbox? I'm in ACK mode, and about every other week or so there'll be two or > > three days where no messages will come, and then I get around a hundred of > > them at once. > > Whenever a new digest is sent out, all the people in digest mode send > their replies. That's probably why you get the messages in Clusters. > well, that would make sense. thanks graham. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:30:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: errors Message-ID: On Wed, 23 May 2001, Souter, Jan-Michael wrote: > > Yeah, I've posted messages to the 'Jam and since I'm in single-message mode > I usually see them show up in my mailbox right away. 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