YTSEJAM Digest 5856 Today's Topics: 1) Do You Have All the Sales you Need? by email_address_removed 2) -Software Clearance- by email_address_removed 3) Scenes from Middle Earth by Dan Costello 4) Drive Your Web Counter Ballistic!!! 17425 by email_address_removed 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5855 by "Ivan Navarro" 6) G3 Tix??? by "Ivan Navarro" 7) Re: G3 Tix??? by "Joe Rivera" 8) Re: G3 Tix??? by "Kez" 9) Megadead (NDTC) by "Christopher W. Ptacek" 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5855 by Kurt M Hampton 11) Re: G3 Tix??? by Mustaine Fan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:39:58 -0800 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: Do You Have All the Sales you Need? Message-ID: If you answered NO to that Question, then... ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS OVER THE INTERNET AND EXPLODE YOUR SALES ** TODAY! ** And leave ALL of the following info here: mailto:email_address_removed Name_____________________________________ Phone_______________________ Best Time To Call_____Hawaii - Pacific - Mountain - Central - Eastern Company Name______________________________ Type of Product______________________________ A merchant account CONSULTANT will contact you soon. Contact us within five days and WE'LL WAIVE THE SETUP FEES!! Even businesses that are: *Multilevel Marketing *Mail Order/ Phone Sales *Home Based Business *INTERNET BASED BUSINESS *New Business * Small Business Everyone Is Welcome! Regardless of your credit rating, WE GUARANTEE YOUR APPROVAL!! *** REMEMBER *** NO SETUP FEES IF YOU SIGNUP WITHIN 5 DAYS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Click below to be removed from this mailing list. mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:14:07 -0800 From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: -Software Clearance- Message-ID:

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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:41:42 -0400 From: Dan Costello To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Scenes from Middle Earth Message-ID: Thanks for all the comments on the Blind Guardian album. I thinks it's a pretty much unanimous decision. >[The Silmarillion] Which is not only the most difficult book I've ever read, but is also the >greatest book ever written. Yeah, you're not kidding about difficult. Oy, I thought there were a lot of names in LoTR. :-) I'm at the beginning of chapter 11 - Of the Sun and Moon and Hiding of the Valinor. I think I'm gonna have to go back and re-read everything, because I can't remember any of it. >Tolkien is to literature what Dream Theater is to music Interesting analogy. Hadn't thought of it that way, but I wholeheartedly agree. Beautiful, well-crafted and at times extremely complicated - to the point of turning off people who don't care for that sort of thing. But it's their loss. :-) Anybody been following the development of the movie? Looks like it should be good. I hope it's not some computer-generated cheez-fest, but I don't think it will be. I've read some interviews given, and a lot of the people working on the project seem to have a genuine love for the books and the world Tolkien created. I'd be interested in seeing how they try to convey some of the more emotional aspects of the book, such as the torment wrought by the Ring on its bearer, and my favorite part, Aragorn's death. Or, more specifically, the description of Arwen after Aragorn dies. I'm not a very emotional guy (I got only minor shivers when Theresa started singing on the dvd), but this part had me balling my eyes out. Good stuff. :-) -Dan. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:18:51 -0400 From: email_address_removed To: Subject: Drive Your Web Counter Ballistic!!! 17425 Message-ID: <00004bde7291$00000f9d$message_id_removed1> Drive Your Web Counter Ballistic with This

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------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:51:18 -0400 From: "Ivan Navarro" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5855 Message-ID: <002201c0dfc3$243d7c80$76035a8c@nws> Sounds to me like these people have made up they're mind and just can't be objective about it, no matter what form of DT you present to them. Maybe what they mean by "it all sounds exactly the same" is on more of a general level i.e., nasty guitar rythm, lots of melodic drumming and double kick-drum work, ripping guitar solos, etc. Another way to look at it is, instrumentals with some theme parts and other parts which showcase each instrument. Let's just say that people on this list would not agree with them. I know a great bass player who is a professional musician and he never liked DT or similar bands that showcase virtuoso performances. It's a sickness ;) I-Man > ------------------------------ > > Date: 17 May 2001 14:14:12 -0000 > From: "Awake ." > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Other people's perceptions > Message-ID: > > > So I was sat in my living room watching the SFNY DVD, and my housemates got home, and groaned "Oh here we go". But I persuaded them to sit down and pay atention, and credit where it's due: they sat through AMBI and ACoS. When it was done, they both agreed that while yes, it's technically very clever, it all sounds exactly the same. > > I was pretty stunned by this comment; I man, I understand that other people don't LIKE Dream Theater, but I couldn't believe that anyone could think that it all sounds the same. And certainly not those four songs!! And these are not stupid Britney Spheres people; one is a Royal Northern College of Music graduate who listens to Yes, Genesis and King Crimson along with some indie shite, the other is one of the most talented drummers (in any time sig you like) that I know. And they reckon it sounds the same. > > I thought I'd share that, because it made me wonder: what do people who don't lke Dream Theater think of it when you guys play it to them?? > > ~SJD > > p.s., but they both liked the excerpt from the Simpsons, and Jordans little piano danzas. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:54:46 -0400 From: "Ivan Navarro" To: Subject: G3 Tix??? Message-ID: <002a01c0dfc3$a0840fc0$76035a8c@nws> I apologize if that last message went out as HTML. Any DC area jamers out there going to see G3 at the Warner Theater on July 17? If so, does anyone know what's up with tickets? I've been waiting for them to go on sale since the date was announced over two weeks ago! I-Man ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:03:50 -0400 From: "Joe Rivera" To: Subject: Re: G3 Tix??? Message-ID: <00fc01c0dfc4$e9d728f0$message_id_removed> Yeah, I'm waiting not-so-patiently for tickets to go on sale as well. This show will be two days from my birthday and I'll be totally bummed if I miss getting a ticket. Grrr. joe np. WestWorld - Limbo I-man said: > Any DC area jamers out there going to see G3 at the Warner Theater on July > 17? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:27:01 -0400 From: "Kez" To: Subject: Re: G3 Tix??? Message-ID: <001f01c0dfc8$2280e620$0300005a@kezp3800> ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Ivan Navarro" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: G3 Tix??? > > I apologize if that last message went out as HTML. > > Any DC area jamers out there going to see G3 at the Warner Theater on July > 17? > If so, does anyone know what's up with tickets? I've been waiting for them > to go on sale since the date was announced over two weeks ago! > > I-Man > I plan on being there, but shit happens, so who knows. I had also planned on being at the Pittsburgh Prog & Metal Fest this weekend...............nice thought, but no can do. As far as I know, tickets are not yet available. We'll see. Kez ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:36:22 -0500 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" To: Subject: Megadead (NDTC) Message-ID: <013101c0dfc9$70e74880$message_id_removed> > From: Paul Ninnis > Subject: The World Need A Hero I don't believe that you want this to be a flame war, so I'm not going to take offense at your parting shot. > You've gotta be kidding... the new Megadeth album is great... a > return to some of the heavier, earlier stuff, but with much > more maturity. Mustaine is still a lyrical poet... This album is by NO MEANS heavier than anything pre-Youthanesia. It's over-produced, and the sound is compressed beyond comprehension. After listening 3 times and reading all of the lyrics, I simply don't know how to debate the idea of this being mature writing, or lyrical poetry. From the standpoint of a musician, however, this is some incredibly simplistic, and ininspired writing. None of these riffs is a keeper. There is not ONE Holy Wars, not ONE Peace Sells, not ONE In My Darkest Hour. It sounds like they were writing with the idea of "this will sound cool with a crowd cheering in between these beats" or something like that. > I wish people would stop hanging shit by always making > comparisons and dissecting every musical note and actually > LISTEN for a change. It is not possible to listen without making comparisons. You do it yourself in this very post. It is not possible to develop a taste for a new piece of music, without comparing it to something, if only itself. And musicians learn by dissecting music. That's perhaps the most important habit of an aspiring musician... critical listening. > and my fav is "1000 times goodbye" This settles it right there. You are looking for Megadeth 2K... this new Megadeth that writes hard rock, primarily. There's nothing wrong with that. But I was looking for what I was told was "a return to Peace Sells and Rust In Piece" in terms of heaviness. This album is no different than the last 3. Any of these songs could seamlessly fit with those other albums... it's not a band that I like or respect. I do, however respect your right to a differing opinion, and your right to like this album. It's written to be catchy. It's just not written to be heavy or thrashy, or original. That's my complaint... too many lies and excuses on the part of the band, and too many followers among the fans. > Do yourself a favour, and give it a listen to decide yourself, > and don't listen to some unqualified rants. I'm pretty sure my comments are just as qualified as yours, if not more so. Megadeth fans that were looking for this "back to the Rust In Piece sound" are not fans of songs with samples of relationship breakups. This album was written for a 14 year old crowd... not people who have been fans of the band for 14 years. I agree, though... listen for yourself, make up your own mind. Just don't actually PAY for this abomination to do so. (is Madsman actually recommending NAPSTER???) - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:46:47 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5855 Message-ID: < It's a joke... "Am I Evil" rip offs, pathetic Hangar 18 sequel> Uhh Dave said that it was a tributeto AM I EVIL, not a rip off. If you notice its the same exact riff and everything, one can sing Am I evil without missing a beat or a word. Its cool how he can re write over a song. Kinda like what weird al does, but this is serious. I love the new album. Maybe Al's solo's do sound a little like marty's cause dave write's em. Duh. I love the album. Elements from all the older cd's are there, with the melody that dave's developed over the past 2 albums. great metal. And if the tour they are talking about happnes for the US, this is gonna kill everything. Iced Earth and Megadeth on 1 nite. Kurt Kurts Trade Page: www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html Ytsekurt on AOL IM "Cmon Orlando Shake you f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Mustaine Fan To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: G3 Tix??? Message-ID: I got me, my bro, and my friends. according to http://www.satriani.com, no word on tickets yet.... I'll let you guys know when I hear anything new. Have Cool, Will Travel. Marc --- Ivan Navarro wrote: > Any DC area jamers out there going to see G3 at the Warner Theater on > July > 17? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5856 **************************