YTSEJAM Digest 5832 Today's Topics: 1) Nightwish DVD info and more by Graham Boyle 2) Re: In Debt? We CAN Help! 9684 by Robb Muise 3) Re: DT DVD by "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" 4) extra takes by Joshua Rasiel 5) RE: Nightwish DVD info and more by David Dixon 6) burn in hell ya stinky pirate by CyberDuke 7) Re: burn in hell ya stinky pirate by "Dan McCormack" 8) A post out of love by Dave Peterson 9) Guilty secrets of shred-fans by "Odysseus Rex" 10) Re: A post out of love by Brian D Hayden 11) Re: A post out of love by Brad Plumb 12) Re: Nightwish DVD info and more by "Andre Navarro" 13) Re: burn in hell ya stinky pirate by Robert Muise 14) Re: A post out of love by Robert Muise 15) Re: Planet X Australian tour! by "Paul Tadday" 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5831 by "email_address_removed.au" 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5831 by "Paul Tadday" 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5831 by "Eyal Ben David" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:04:06 +1000 From: Graham Boyle To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Nightwish DVD info and more Message-ID: David Dixon wrote: > Alright - where can I get my hands on this mysterious Nightwish DVD that > everyone is talking about?? I can't seem to find any info on it whatsoever, > other than it was released on the 14th... There has been info on www.nightwish.com for the past couple of months. If you have other Spinefarm releases available where you live you should have no hassle getting the DVD. So here it is The FINAL release date for the NIGHTWISH DVD & VHS is now as stated here. Which is now 25-06-2001 Also, on the same date we will release a FULL-LENGHT album from the band, and the contents are as follows (it is NOT a new NIGHTWISH studio album, though !!!): ============================================================================== NIGHTWISH "Over The Hills And Far Away" CD (SPI 135 CD) 1. Over The Hills And Far Away (5.03) (a GARY MOORE cover tune) 2. 10th Man Down (5.20) (NEW TRACK !!!) 3. Away (4.32) (NEW TRACK !!!) 4. Astral Romance (5.18) (RE-RECORDED NIGHTWISH CLASSIC !!!) 5. The Kinslayer live) 6. She Is My Sin (live) 7. Sacrament Of Wilderness (live) 8. Walking In The Air (live) 9. Beauty & the Beast (live) 10. Wishmaster (live) Total running time 51.16 All live tracks recorded at Pakkahuone Club, Tampere, Finland, on the 29th of December 2000. NOTE: The live tracks are (the same) from the Finnish only release 'From Wishes To Eternity' CD ============================================================================= NIGHTWISH "From Wishes To Eternity - Live" DVD & VHS ============================================================================= Cat.#: SPI 100 DVD / SPI 100 VHS barcode: 6417871 500067 (DVD) / 6417871 500050 (VHS) release date: 25th of June 2001 total playing time: 150 minutes Screen: 16:9 PAL Sound: Dolby Digital 5.1 Region: All Disc format: DVD-5 ================================================================================ contents: - A live NIGHTWISH concert, recorded in Finland on the 29th of December 2000. - Interviews with Tarja & Tuomas - Off-stage footage - Two promo videos & two live videos - Photo gallery (50 images) - Discography ==================================================================== The opera metal gods of Finland release a full-lenght concert DVD with a Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound on the 21st of May 2001 !!! The concert part of the DVD features 15 songs of full opera metal mayhem, filmed in the front of 1500 Finnish fans, at the sold-out Pakkahuone Club, Tampere, Finland. The extra features include 27 minutes of off-stage footage filmed on their "Wishmaster World Tour 2000" around Europe and in Canada. As an extra bonus you will get the two promo videos, "The Carpenter" (from their debut album "Angels Fall First", the first NIGHTWISH promo video ever !!!) and the magnificent "Sleeping Sun" (from the "Oceanborn" album), plus two live promo videos: "Kinslayer (live in Buenos Aires, Argentina") and "Walking In The Air (live in Montreal, Canada)". And on top of that, interviews with both Tarja and Tuomas plus a NIGHTWISH discography, not forgetting the NIGHTWISH Photo Gallery, with the total of 50 images, most of them totally unseen by the fan masses !!! A TOTAL MUST FOR ALL DIEHARD NIGHTWISH FANS. ALSO VHS (PAL) VERSION AVAILABLE ON THE SAME RELEASE DATE. NOTE THAT VHS CONTAINS ONLY THE LIVE CONCERT & THE FOUR VIDEOS, NOT THE EXTRA FOOTAGE OR INTERVIEWS. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:05:08 -0400 From: Robb Muise To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: In Debt? We CAN Help! 9684 Message-ID: At 11:53 AM 4/26/2001 -0700, email_address_removed wrote: >Debt Ad > >Do = you need to get out of debt? To buy some more cd's, sure... >This is NOT a loan and you will NOT be turned DOWN .. :) Who do I have to suck? >Are you thinking about borrowing money to consolidate your bills? no >Are you approaching or already past due on your credit cards? Does the pope shit in the woods? >Do you usually only pay the monthly minimum on your credit cards? You can pay more?? >Are your creditors harassing you about late payments? If your asking if i bought caller id to avoid embarassing moments during dinner, yes. >Are family disputes over money taking place on a daily basis? I told my mother she ain't getting a retirement home... >IT'S TRUE! Of course it is, noone emails out lies. >Save 20% - 60% on your debt by consolidating your unsecured loans into >one= low monthly payment! Maybe I could just spend more? >THIS IS NOT A LOAN! So who am I robbing? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:15:16 +0300 From: "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" To: Subject: Re: DT DVD Message-ID: <001001c0ce85$3b39f480$2af026d4@ghj> ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "David Dixon" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:56 PM Subject: RE: DT DVD > > Alright - where can I get my hands on this mysterious Nightwish DVD that > everyone is talking about?? I can't seem to find any info on it whatsoever, > other than it was released on the 14th... It was released last friday in Finland and the European release date is 21st of May. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:23:03 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: extra takes Message-ID: > to those who were there, did they do multiple takes of some songs? since > they knew they were taping for the dvd and all? considering Mike was puking and shivering from exhaustion for hours after the hall emptied, I would have been surprised to see them all come back and break into ACoS just then. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:03:28 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Nightwish DVD info and more Message-ID: Graham - thanks a ton for the info... :) David Dixon, MCSD, MCDBA, MCSE Senior Consultant, Retail Solutions Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:21:34 +0200 From: CyberDuke To: Ytsejam Subject: burn in hell ya stinky pirate Message-ID: > > You guys shouldve been there when i got carjacked out of my pimp > > ride (j/k) and lost over 70 cds , including my > > dt/lte/sideproject collection :( > > That's why having a CD burner is an advantage. Burning copies of > special CDs I wouldn't want to get messed up or stolen out of a > vehicle. Oh mine, but doesn't it have to do something with the almighty copyrights? }o) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:40:10 -0400 From: "Dan McCormack" To: Subject: Re: burn in hell ya stinky pirate Message-ID: <001901c0cea1$d9edf100$message_id_removed> ]From: "CyberDuke" Subject: burn in hell ya stinky pirate > > That's why having a CD burner is an advantage. Burning copies of > > special CDs I wouldn't want to get messed up or stolen out of a > > vehicle. > > Oh mine, but doesn't it have to do something with the almighty > copyrights? }o) no, because he copies CDs that he already owns. you're allowed to do that. :) *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:12:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Peterson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: A post out of love Message-ID: I post this because I love this list and want it to return the greatness that it had many years ago. I joined this list soon after Awake came out and am eternally endebted to all of the AMAZING recommendations I've found here. I have always been in awe of the calibur of people who continually grace these posts from year to year. Truly high-class people. Now here's my point. The Jam is fucked, guys. You know it and I know it. There is JACK SHIT traffic these days and it's impossible to follow any threads when the Jams are 3 days apart. It should NOT be the responsibility of the individual subscribers to the list to have to filter out the spam. When people join a mailing list, is it too much to expect that it's free of spam? And let's be honest. Why is the Jam so sparse lately? Is it because there's not much going on in the prog community? Bullshit! Prog is bigger and better than it ever has been before. Okay, in the last 15 years or so. (It's not quite up to the level of the golden era of Prog in the 70's yet) The high level of enthusiasm for prog just isn't reflected much on the Jam lately because of the spam. I have no doubt that that is exactly what it's referred to by some. "The YtseSpam". Sorry to compare, but I am forced to: The Symphony X mailing list has a TON of great posts daily. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that their membership is 5 times that of the Jam these days. Why is that? Is SX that much more popular? Hell no! The reason is because the list forbids any posts from those who aren't subscribed to it. It's based on a server from yahoogroups. It doesn't really matter what band the list is dedicated to. People just want a cool FORUM to discuss prog bands! The info about your band will make it to all the lists, so it doesn't really matter what you're subscribed to. Things are going these ways, people. Mailing lists are TARGETS for advertisements and it's time I think we all really consider this fact and really make an effort to move this list to a server (or whatever - I'm not perfect with the terminology) that forbids outside posts. If someone posts spam who IS subscribed, it's easiest enough to boot the fucker off the list. Back in the day, businesses had enough class to stay away from mailing lists, but no longer. They go towards every possible outlet available and lately it has turned our Ytsejam into a pile of shit. Now what do we do? Do we sit back and pretend it doesn't exist and slowly watch our membership dwindle to nothing? Or do we say FUCK YOU to the spammers and let them send their shit somewhere else? I certainly acknowlege that this isn't my decision to make but I make this humble suggestion to the Ytsejam list owner, Skadz: Would the trouble of moving the list be worse than watching the number of subscribers slowly dwindle to nothing as we've been doing this past year or so? I know nothing about the logistics about how to set up a mailing list and I'm sure it's a pain in the ass, but there are lists out there that will not accept spam and that is where things are going. Spam is everywhere and people stay AWAY from it if they can help it. And that means moving to other mailing lists in our case. I post this because I want this list to rise to the greatness it once had. It's shitty FOR A REASON right now and let's not be in denial as to why. It's SPAM and we can do something to rid ourselves of it! Okay, I'll get off my soapbox for now. Thanks for tuning in. - Dr. Teeth (Rare poster, but listmember since 1994 and proud owner of one of the original Mike Bahr Subconscious Bootlegs). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:16:23 -0000 From: "Odysseus Rex" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Guilty secrets of shred-fans Message-ID: In the interests of increasing the signal-to-noise ratio: What guilty musical secrets do 'jammers have which they wouldn't like the Prog Police to know about? Me, I think Roxette are great performers and songwriters, and I sing along to them in the car all the time. Plus that hit from All Saints was very catchy. Not a lot of prog fans know that... Meanwhile... while I love Vitalij Kuprij's solo efforts, Artension hasn't really done it for me. Any takers (ideally UK) for CDs Forces of Nature, Phoenix Rising, Into the Eye of the Storm? Send me your bids or swappable CDs. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:26:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian D Hayden To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A post out of love Message-ID: ]From what I see, I don't think the "decline" of the 'jam has much to do with spam. It has to do with the fact that there's not many interesting thoughtful people posting anymore. :shrug: -Brian -- "Do you think I wouldn't be pleased to meet the devil? Ha ha, I'd shake his hand like a long-lost friend." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:30:28 -0500 From: Brad Plumb To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: A post out of love Message-ID: > > >Things are going these ways, people. Mailing lists are TARGETS for >advertisements and it's time I think we all really consider this fact >and really make an effort to move this list to a server (or whatever - >I'm not perfect with the terminology) that forbids outside posts. If >someone posts spam who IS subscribed, it's easiest enough to boot the >fucker off the list. >] Actually, I thought that's where we were now... we've moved 2 or 3 times in the past couple of years for this very reason.... >Back in the day, businesses had enough class to stay away from mailing >lists, but no longer. They go towards every possible outlet available >and lately it has turned our Ytsejam into a pile of shit. > >Now what do we do? Do we sit back and pretend it doesn't exist and >slowly watch our membership dwindle to nothing? Or do we say FUCK YOU >to the spammers and let them send their shit somewhere else? > >I certainly acknowlege that this isn't my decision to make but I make >this humble suggestion to the Ytsejam list owner, Skadz: Would the >trouble of moving the list be worse than watching the number of >subscribers slowly dwindle to nothing as we've been doing this past >year or so? > >I know nothing about the logistics about how to set up a mailing list >and I'm sure it's a pain in the ass, but there are lists out there that >will not accept spam and that is where things are going. Spam is >everywhere and people stay AWAY from it if they can help it. And that >means moving to other mailing lists in our case. > >I post this because I want this list to rise to the greatness it once >had. It's shitty FOR A REASON right now and let's not be in denial as >to why. It's SPAM and we can do something to rid ourselves of it! > >Okay, I'll get off my soapbox for now. > >Thanks for tuning in. > >- Dr. Teeth > >(Rare poster, but listmember since 1994 and proud owner of one of the >original Mike Bahr Subconscious Bootlegs). > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ "People in Hong Kong are saying "We finally understand a Kar-wai film!" I don't know if I like that... I feel like I've let them down." -Wong Kar-Wai "God is a girl who won't listen" -Kevin Moore, Blanket (I buried me wife and I dance on top of her) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:39:39 -0400 From: "Andre Navarro" To: Subject: Re: Nightwish DVD info and more Message-ID: cool, you just tell him and not us, cool. :) do tell!! ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "David Dixon" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:08 PM Subject: RE: Nightwish DVD info and more > > Graham - thanks a ton for the info... :) > > David Dixon, MCSD, MCDBA, MCSE > Senior Consultant, Retail Solutions > Integrated Information Systems, Inc. > email_address_removed > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:21:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: burn in hell ya stinky pirate Message-ID: legally you can make a backup of it if you already own it. Same goes for videogames. On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, CyberDuke wrote: > > > > You guys shouldve been there when i got carjacked out of my pimp > > > ride (j/k) and lost over 70 cds , including my > > > dt/lte/sideproject collection :( > > > > That's why having a CD burner is an advantage. Burning copies of > > special CDs I wouldn't want to get messed up or stolen out of a > > vehicle. > > Oh mine, but doesn't it have to do something with the almighty > copyrights? }o) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Escalations Manager Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:email_address_removed Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:22:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A post out of love Message-ID: Actually I'm surprised its not setup to not allow non members to post. That seems to be the default for all mailing lists... On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Dave Peterson wrote: > > I post this because I love this list and want it to return the > greatness that it had many years ago. I joined this list soon after > Awake came out and am eternally endebted to all of the AMAZING > recommendations I've found here. I have always been in awe of the > calibur of people who continually grace these posts from year to year. > Truly high-class people. > > Now here's my point. The Jam is fucked, guys. You know it and I know > it. There is JACK SHIT traffic these days and it's impossible to > follow any threads when the Jams are 3 days apart. > > It should NOT be the responsibility of the individual subscribers to > the list to have to filter out the spam. When people join a mailing > list, is it too much to expect that it's free of spam? > > And let's be honest. Why is the Jam so sparse lately? Is it because > there's not much going on in the prog community? Bullshit! Prog is > bigger and better than it ever has been before. Okay, in the last 15 > years or so. (It's not quite up to the level of the golden era of Prog > in the 70's yet) The high level of enthusiasm for prog just isn't > reflected much on the Jam lately because of the spam. > > I have no doubt that that is exactly what it's referred to by some. > "The YtseSpam". > > Sorry to compare, but I am forced to: The Symphony X mailing list has > a TON of great posts daily. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that their > membership is 5 times that of the Jam these days. Why is that? Is SX > that much more popular? Hell no! The reason is because the list > forbids any posts from those who aren't subscribed to it. It's based > on a server from yahoogroups. > > It doesn't really matter what band the list is dedicated to. People > just want a cool FORUM to discuss prog bands! The info about your band > will make it to all the lists, so it doesn't really matter what you're > subscribed to. > > Things are going these ways, people. Mailing lists are TARGETS for > advertisements and it's time I think we all really consider this fact > and really make an effort to move this list to a server (or whatever - > I'm not perfect with the terminology) that forbids outside posts. If > someone posts spam who IS subscribed, it's easiest enough to boot the > fucker off the list. > > Back in the day, businesses had enough class to stay away from mailing > lists, but no longer. They go towards every possible outlet available > and lately it has turned our Ytsejam into a pile of shit. > > Now what do we do? Do we sit back and pretend it doesn't exist and > slowly watch our membership dwindle to nothing? Or do we say FUCK YOU > to the spammers and let them send their shit somewhere else? > > I certainly acknowlege that this isn't my decision to make but I make > this humble suggestion to the Ytsejam list owner, Skadz: Would the > trouble of moving the list be worse than watching the number of > subscribers slowly dwindle to nothing as we've been doing this past > year or so? > > I know nothing about the logistics about how to set up a mailing list > and I'm sure it's a pain in the ass, but there are lists out there that > will not accept spam and that is where things are going. Spam is > everywhere and people stay AWAY from it if they can help it. And that > means moving to other mailing lists in our case. > > I post this because I want this list to rise to the greatness it once > had. It's shitty FOR A REASON right now and let's not be in denial as > to why. It's SPAM and we can do something to rid ourselves of it! > > Okay, I'll get off my soapbox for now. > > Thanks for tuning in. > > - Dr. Teeth > > (Rare poster, but listmember since 1994 and proud owner of one of the > original Mike Bahr Subconscious Bootlegs). > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Escalations Manager Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:email_address_removed Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:27:30 +1000 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: Re: Planet X Australian tour! Message-ID: <001701c0cee3$256d6c00$d43636cb@PaulTadday> COC = Corrosion Of Conformity!! Duh! -Paul. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Eric George > COC??? would that be, perhaps, Cradle of Crap? sorry guys, had to do > it. couldn't help myself........ :) > > -ryften > > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Paul Tadday wrote: > > > > > Hey Mike... > > That's awesome news!! > > > > I'm not heading to the Pantera show unfortunately... > > Have you heard anything about COC maybe doing a club show or two while > > they're out here?? > > I'd love to see them but I'm over Pantera big time! > > > > --Paul. > > www.mp3.com.au/krane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:50:24 +1000 From: "email_address_removed.au" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5831 Message-ID: Groan. Nah its Corrosion of Conformity who support Pantera. Haven't heard any news of shows by them. The Pantera concert is fairly soon tho, so I don't know how good the chances of that are. BTW. Just heard a rumour too that BB King could be coming down here, which will be cool too! I'm making a point of going and seeing all these old guys, like I saw Bob Dylan, cause it could be the last time they make it down here. > COC??? would that be, perhaps, Cradle of Crap? sorry guys, had to do > it. couldn't help myself........ :) > > -ryften > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Paul Tadday wrote: > > > > > Hey Mike... > > That's awesome news!! > > > > I'm not heading to the Pantera show unfortunately... > > Have you heard anything about COC maybe doing a club show or two while > > they're out here?? > > I'd love to see them but I'm over Pantera big time! > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:18:53 +1000 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5831 Message-ID: <008801c0cef2$b3e34f40$d43636cb@PaulTadday> Yeah I heard a rumour that BB King will be playing at Crown Casino. -Paul. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: To: Multiple recipients of list > BTW. Just heard a rumour too that BB King could be coming down here, which > will be cool too! I'm making a point of going and seeing all these old guys, like I > saw Bob Dylan, cause it could be the last time they make it down here. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:46:18 +0200 From: "Eyal Ben David" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5831 Message-ID: <000c01c0cf31$3ed3f800$67e0cbc7@w2j3t2> That's what we doctor's call the build up effect, The funniest thing I've read. notice how everyone keeps quoting the previous topic. creamed my pants. Original Post (always wanted to write that): > > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:09:16 -0500 > From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" > To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" > Subject: burning copies > Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33A52@ISDCRE00> > > > haha! yeah, not burning -every- CD you own, but the ones you'd like to > leave in the car as go-to CDs.. All DT, all Symphony X, new Adagio, > Avantasia, all NightWish, EdenBridge.....etc etc :) > But definitely leave any original Spocks Beard in the car............... > hahaha > > JM > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robb Muise [SMTP:email_address_removed > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:07 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: DVD (nothing revealing: no spoiler here) > > > > > > I always thought about doing that, burning every cd I have so that i could > > > > always have my collection in the car and not worrying about wether it got > > stolen or not... > > > > > > shyt.. need time... > > > > At 08:55 AM 4/26/2001 -0700, Souter, Jan-Michael wrote: > > > > >That's why having a CD burner is an advantage. Burning copies of special > > >CDs I wouldn't want to get messed up or stolen out of a vehicle. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Carlos A. Alfaro [SMTP:email_address_removed > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:31 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > > Subject: Re: DVD (nothing revealing: no spoiler here) > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys shouldve been there when i got carjacked out of my pimp ride > > > > (j/k) and lost over 70 cds , including my > > > > dt/lte/sideproject collection > > > > > > > > :( > > > > > > > > > > > > Robb Muise wrote: > > > > > > > > > At 07:45 AM 4/26/2001 -0700, The Wizard wrote: > > > > > >I read that someone cried in a scene. I can't say that I cried > > cause > > > > for one > > > > > >it wouldn't be man like and another I didn't actually cry > > > > > > > > > > Shit you shoulda been there the day I dropped my LTE cd on a rug at > > work > > > > > and it cracked in two.. > > > > > > > > > > "I wept just like a baby as it lay there broke in two" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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