YTSEJAM Digest 5798

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5797
 by email_address_removed
  2) Re: Inspirational corners & the DVD
 by CyberDuke <email_address_removed.mk>
  3) Fluttering
 by "Dark Majesty" <email_address_removed>
  4) screeprinting
 by Joshua Rasiel <email_address_removed>
  5) Re: old-timers
 by "Korg Ecksthrey" <email_address_removed>
  6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5797
 by "Alex O'Connell" <email_address_removed>
  7) Richard E Weaver/HQ/GTFC is out of the office.
 by email_address_removed
  8) Re: Richard E Weaver/HQ/GTFC is out of the office.
 by "Andre Navarro" <email_address_removed>
  9) Savatage/Fates Warning tour dates confirmed
 by Michael Kizer <email_address_removed>
 10) Mortgage Rates DROPPED! Act Now and Save!!                         30843
 by email_address_removed.co.uk
 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5797
 by Nicholas Sakkos <cassidy@x-treme.gr>
 12) RE: old-timers
 by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
 13) Re: Savatage/Fates Warning tour dates confirmed
 by "Dr. Mosh" <email_address_removed>
 14) 
 by email_address_removed.co.jp
 15) Re: Savatage/Fates Warning tour dates confirmed
 by Michael Kizer <email_address_removed>
 16) colored Email
 by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
 17) New Enchant / Vitalij Kuprij sites
 by "Enchant Web" <email_address_removed>
 18) Re: colored Email
 by Andrew Coutermarsh <email_address_removed>

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:49:23 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5797
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Inspiration Corner CDs for new DT: Master of Puppets, Aenima, OK Computer,
Vulgar Display of Power, Achtung Baby, The Downward Spiral, Superunknown,
and Petrucci brought in some Bartok and Rage Against the Machine.

Hmm... 2 metal bands, 2 hard rock bands (Rage/Soundgarden), two 'prog' 
(Radiohead/Tool), one pop, one industrial... this should be interesting. 
Awake, pt. 2? It seems like it'll be heavy but with melodic and experimental 
parts, judging from the inspiration. Hopefully, less keyboard solos. Not that 
Jordan doesn't kick ass, but I really dislike his sounds both in LT and DT

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:27:15 +0100
From: CyberDuke <email_address_removed.mk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Inspirational corners & the DVD
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.mk>


Geez tell me it's a joke this one for the new album. 


And about that DVD, ... I hate those sleezy smarty-pants called DT. DVD
systems stores should give them a percentage. How many of you bought /
will buy DVD players primarily or mainly because of the DT DVD? :)

<me shyly raising hand>

P.S. Yo, are the pre-orders shipped on the day of the release? Or
earlier?

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:21:34 -0600
From: "Dark Majesty" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Fluttering
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hello all:

I have a very important question for you all concerning a guitar technique 
called "fluttering."  I'm sure you veteran guitarists know what I'm talking 
about.  Anyway, I recently purchased a Carvin DC747 7-String with a Floyd 
Rose trem.  The arm is angled up away from the body, probably about 20-30 
degrees, and it ends up being probably close to 4-5 inches off of the body 
of my guitar.  When I tap it just so to flutter, it's so high that it 
bounces back into position fairly hard, and makes a kind of "thud" sound.  
I'm afraid that I'm going to break my guitar if I keep this up.  Should I 
bend my trem arm to make it parallel to the body (the instruction sheet says 
that the arm is supposed to be parallel to the body when the action is set 
right, but the action is right now although the arm isn't parallel), or 
should I do something else to it?  Help!!!!

Thanks in advance,

--96
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:35:03 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: screeprinting
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


>*LMAO*
>Welcome to the wonderful world of screenprinting Josh!!
>Some of us have made full time careers out of it!
>
>--Paul.

Really, paul? I didn't know you were a screenprinter! We will talk more
privately. Specifically, about how you've kept your sanity.  :)

I did it as a part time job in college, and it was an increcible
learning experience for me, but man o man, I respect anyone with the
patience and skill to take on screenprinting full time.

-josh


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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:53:48 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: old-timers
Message-ID: <003b01c0b1a1$e1833fa0$1b4153d8@washburn>


Oooh, the Chew-meister's Ytse-archive seriously rocks ass!  Much props. :D
I got to see that my first post came on Jan. 25th, 1995 in 'jam #662.  I'm
still looking for my first real flame, though.  I was too mellow back then.
:)  Also, I found an awesome piece of Ytse-history after one of my posts in
'jam #710.

Enjoy and relive the memories. :)

-------
]From: email_address_removed
To: email_address_removed
Subject: corruption in the goat herd
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>

it has come to my attention that this mailing list has become a forum for
pseudo-intellectual types to spout out intellectual poppycock about things
that are trivial.

furthermore, i have noticed a movement on this list which praises mediocre
material (i.e. bon jovi, extreme, and van halen) with no relation to DT
while talented musicians nlike cynic, thought industry and others
remain conveniently ignored.

third, there is a tendency to "ride the bandwagon" in regard to new material
related to DT. for example, _Awake_ is the ultimate in generic progressive
metal and the kevin moore demos truly eat it, yet these sheep praise them
endlessly just like they were "the emperor's new clothes." god forbid
that anyone should bring up any topic which portays these prog-metal gods
in a bad light. I am not afraid to say that these are shitty pieces of music
because it is truth.

you all have failed the human litmus test. i hate you and i hope die.

Sloppyjoe69


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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:40:55 -0500
From: "Alex O'Connell" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5797
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


God that last jam was hard to read.  Did anyone else in digest mode get it 
with a black background?  I was so frustrated until I realized that by 
hitting "respond" to it, all of a sudden I had white background and could 
read everything.  :)  Heh.  Been that kind of a day.

 >1) Where's the Jam??
 >by "Paul Tadday" <email_address_removed>

LOL.  It was a riot getting this as the first message of the invisible jam 
as well.

finishing pointless email,
Alex

"All will bear a part of me, let this taco shell set you free to live as one."
	
	- favorite misheard lyric of the moment.


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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:59:22 -0600
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Richard E Weaver/HQ/GTFC is out of the office.
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


I will be out of the office from 03/20/2001 until 03/26/2001.

I'll be out until next Monday. Call me at 612-210-7841 if you have a major
dealie.


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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:12:05 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Richard E Weaver/HQ/GTFC is out of the office.
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


You got it.

> I will be out of the office from 03/20/2001 until 03/26/2001.
>
> I'll be out until next Monday. Call me at 612-210-7841 if you have a major
> dealie.
>
>

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:20:11 -0800
From: Michael Kizer <email_address_removed>
To: fateswarning@egroups.com, ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Savatage/Fates Warning tour dates confirmed
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


In case you hadn't heard yet, the initial (still hoping for more) tour 
dates have been confirmed. See the complete list at 
http://www.ivorygate.com/fw/tour.htm
Also, so to http://www.savatage.com (specifically: 
http://www.savatage.com/tour/tourposters.html) to grab some cool tour 
posters for each of the dates (Help promote the shows!).


~Michael Kizer                  < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 >
"Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
 >>>               Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream               <<<
 >>>      Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books       <<<
 >>>     Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com      <<<


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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:35:28 -0500
From: email_address_removed.co.uk
To: <email_address_removed.co.uk>
Subject: Mortgage Rates DROPPED! Act Now and Save!!                         30843
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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:13:13 +0200
From: Nicholas Sakkos <cassidy@x-treme.gr>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5797
Message-ID: <3AB78199.52E52FDD@x-treme.gr>


Talking about old ytsejammers,how about the guy that sends all the spam?
High profile one too.

cheesus
np: Type O Negative-Bloody Kisses


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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:40:42 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: old-timers
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B334B8@ISDCRE00>


Yeah, that would quality as an old timer 'Jammer.  

/me hands Rob a walker    ;)


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Rob Pociluk [SMTP:email_address_removed
> Sent:	Monday, March 19, 2001 4:18 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: old-timers
> 
> 
> On YtseJam since early 1994.  Old timer then?  Not sure.
> 
> Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/
> 

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:23:09 -0800
From: "Dr. Mosh" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Savatage/Fates Warning tour dates confirmed
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


RAH RAH RAH
Where's the CA dates?


Signal received  0.  Michael Kizer <email_address_removed> said:
> 
> In case you hadn't heard yet, the initial (still hoping for more) tour 
> dates have been confirmed. See the complete list at 
> http://www.ivorygate.com/fw/tour.htm
> Also, so to http://www.savatage.com (specifically: 
> http://www.savatage.com/tour/tourposters.html) to grab some cool tour 
> posters for each of the dates (Help promote the shows!).
> 
> 
> ~Michael Kizer                  < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 >
> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
>  >>>               Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream               <<<
>  >>>      Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books       <<<
>  >>>     Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com      <<<

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:29:38 -0800
From: Michael Kizer <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Savatage/Fates Warning tour dates confirmed
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


At 06:33 AM 3/21/01 -0800, you wrote:

>RAH RAH RAH
>Where's the CA dates?
         So far, nothing even in the rumor stage for west coast dates... :-(

hmmm... maybe I shouldn't use that frowning emoticon there, I could be 
hearing from some lawyers soon since it has been patented. 
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=75502288


~Michael Kizer                  < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 >
"Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
 >>>               Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream               <<<
 >>>      Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books       <<<
 >>>     Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com      <<<


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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:17:49 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: colored Email
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B334D6@ISDCRE00>


Wow, what email program do you use to read your mail?   That's funny that it
turned colors on you. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alex O'Connell [SMTP:email_address_removed
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:49 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: YTSEJAM digest 5797
> 
> 
> God that last jam was hard to read.  Did anyone else in digest mode get it
> 
> with a black background?  I was so frustrated until I realized that by 
> hitting "respond" to it, all of a sudden I had white background and could 
> read everything.  :)  Heh.  Been that kind of a day.
> 
>  

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:29:16 -0000
From: "Enchant Web" <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: New Enchant / Vitalij Kuprij sites
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



Dear friends,

Enchant finally have a revamped official site.
www.theoasis.cc

Artension fans can also check this out:
www.vitalijkuprij.com


All the best
Enchant's webmaster



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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:02:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: colored Email
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Souter, Jan-Michael wrote:

> Wow, what email program do you use to read your mail?  That's funny
> that it turned colors on you.

LOL.  That and the fact that I can laugh at viruses are the reasons I use
Pine to read my email.  Using a Unix-based email program means you NEVER
EVER EVER have to worry about being attacked by those damn Outlook Express
virii.  Not that I've ever received one, but if I did, I'd sure as hell
notice and delete it before I download it to my archive.

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"I love California.  I practically grew up in
Phoenix."
  - Dan Quayle
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