YTSEJAM Digest 5791 Today's Topics: 1) re: T-SHIRTS!!! by "Tameo, Robert" 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5790 by "Paul Evans" 3) Sentinel Steel? by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 4) Another FZ angle by Mark Peters 5) Re: Zappa at 9 by rob denni 6) Upcoming Vai live CD by CyberDuke 7) Re: Upcoming Vai live CD by email_address_removed.tr 8) Re: Zappa at 9 by Eric George ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:50:50 -0500 From: "Tameo, Robert" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: T-SHIRTS!!! Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:50 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5790 > > > YTSEJAM Digest 5790 > > Today's Topics: > > 1) All Your Base Are Belong to Us > by Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB > 2) You were 9?! > by "Rahul Ananda (Volt)" > 3) Re: All Your Base Are Belong to Us (NDTC) > by "michele moran" > 4) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5788 > by Nathan Hudson > 5) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5789 > by Nathan Hudson > 6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5789 > by "Kez" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:56:19 -0500 > From: Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, axeman_dannl@juno.com > Subject: All Your Base Are Belong to Us > Message-ID: > I already ordered mine last week :) It didn't get shipped until the weekend though, and who knows how long it'll take to get here by regular mail. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:44:22 -0800 From: "Paul Evans" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5790 Message-ID: <002501c0a808$2c50ee40$message_id_removed> Kez and Nathan spat out: > > > > PPS I recently purchased a live Vanden Plas album and I thought it rocked > > but they are soooooooo like DT - is it them in disguise? Even the vocals? > > > > > > Well, Spirit of Live is a great cd, but I don't particularly see a DT > resemblance. But I've been a Vanden Plas fan for some time, so I'm more > familiar with the songs on the live cd. Maybe that's it. > > Kez I'm just getting into these guys myself (thanks to the Jam for a fine recommendation!) The biggest similarity I hear to DT (besides both being progressive metal) is that to my ears, VP's instrumentation sounds like DT's Awake sound - at least on the Far Off Grace and Spirit of Live Cd's. Especially the snare drum (and it's reverb), guitars, and synths. Which to me is a good thing - I love those sounds. VP seems maybe a bit less technical and dense than DT to me. But they certainly don't suck! I really like this band. Anybody out there know what kind of 'verbs (models and patches) were used on the snare (hell, on the whole drum kit) on Awake? The drum sound there totally kills me. And I'm a guitar player! And for that matter, what kind of keys did KevMo play when he was with DT? I know he used Roland, but does anybody know what models? Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of VP's discs. Anybody who hasn't should give them a spin. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:51:04 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" Subject: Sentinel Steel? Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1C3E@ISDCRE00> might have to search for them on AudioGalaxy.com and get back with you after hearing some samples......... > -----Original Message----- > From: email_address_removed [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:43 PM > Subject: Sentinel Steel? > > Are these guys any good? They've got a few discs that I haven't > found or have been out of stock at other places. Anyone have an > experience to share? > > Thanks in advance, > > Chris > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:58:52 -0600 From: Mark Peters To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Another FZ angle Message-ID: There are many Zappa albums that would be good to start out with, and to identify them, you need to know which era of Zappa is your favorite. I divide them into several eras: Original Mothers, the Flo & Eddie years, the George Duke era, the Bozzio band, 82-84, and the big band from 1988. That list can be shredded to pieces, I know, but it works for me. Anyway, to narrow down the choices for your first few FZ CDs, here are a few that I would not recommend you purchase at first: Jazz From Hell: Almost all electronic. This album is really good, but it's not indicative IMO of most of his work. Weasels Ripped My Flesh: There is more than one good track on here, but it helps to have a bit of background in FZ before you tackle this one. Lumpy Gravy: This is a soundscapes album, not about songs. Save it for later. I've never heard Civilization Phaze 3, but from what I've heard, it's similar to Lumpy Gravy in that respect. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. FZ Meets the Mothers of Prevention: Lots of Synclavier stuff, like Jazz from Hell. There are a few songs with lyrics, but the big track from this album is a 12 minute collage of electronically manipulated soundbites from 1985 when FZ testified in front of the US Congress about "porn rock." Thing Fish: You will not appreciate how great this album is if it is your introduction to Zappa. The more of FZ's music and background you know, the more you'll probably like this one. The Lost Episodes: This was not intended as a first purchase. It's mostly tracks of historical interest, and for existing fans first and foremost. Francesco Zappa: This album is all Synclavier, and according to the liner notes, it is music written long ago by an Italian composer with a familiar name. It's not hard to listen to, but it's not FZ either. 200 Motels: I recommend you watch the movie first, then listen to the album. Also, Make a Jazz Noise Here was mentioned earlier here. Steve Vai does not play on this album - it's all from the 1988 tour, when Mike Keneally had joined the band. I love this one - it is a collection of what FZ described as some of his more difficult-to-play songs. I hope this helped, and wasn't too annoying. Take care, Mark Peters email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:09:35 -0800 (PST) From: rob denni To: ytsejam Subject: Re: Zappa at 9 Message-ID: I guess I should have explained more about hearing Joe's Garage at 9. I have 2 brothers, one of which is 14 years older than I. That would have put him at 23. I was visiting him at FSU and when my parents left, he says "hey Rob, you gotta hear this, but don't tell Mom and Dad". He had to explain "why does it hurt when I pee" to me, but I got a lot of the other things especially the sick solo section in "Wet T-shirt Night". These are the same brothers who took me to see ELP when I was 6!!!! Now that was a show! ===== Rob Denni 1657-B Elm Ct. Ft. Gordon, GA 30905 (706) 790-8937 Go visit my website! http://home.talkcity.com/HeadbangersHwy/funkygroove/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:40:04 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: Ytsejam Subject: Upcoming Vai live CD Message-ID: Yo, is it safe to assume a live DVD is also on the way? It would be sacrilege not to release a DVD too. :( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 101 00:22:23 GMT From: email_address_removed.tr To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Upcoming Vai live CD Message-ID: I told before that the possible live cd will be from Istanbul - Turkey 2000 which was the last show of the tour.,He mentioned that it was being recorded and will be released later.. that night there were also many cameras around there :))))) but Im not sure if they were the press or the recording crew I also have 2 clips on my site of Vai Istanbul 2000 concert taken from a local tv station www.bootlegmania.8m.com > > Yo, is it safe to assume a live DVD is also on the way? > It would be sacrilege not to release a DVD too. :( > ------------------------------ ISPRO Internet Servisleri http://www.ispro.net.tr/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:05:15 -0500 (EST) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Zappa at 9 Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, rob denni wrote: > > I guess I should have explained more about hearing > Joe's Garage at 9. I have 2 brothers, one of which is > 14 years older than I. That would have put him at 23. > I was visiting him at FSU and when my parents left, > he says "hey Rob, you gotta hear this, but don't tell > Mom and Dad". He had to explain "why does it hurt > when I pee" to me, but I got a lot of the other things > especially the sick solo section in "Wet T-shirt > Night". These are the same brothers who took me to > see ELP when I was 6!!!! Now that was a show! > ELP when you were 6??!!!! Man, some guys have all the luck.......(begin rod stewart melody). sheesh. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5791 **************************