YTSEJAM Digest 5765 Today's Topics: 1) you or me/staying alive/floyd by Joshua Rasiel 2) Re: Mp3 abuse here we go again by CyberDuke 3) re: Fatez, Symphony X by Chris Oates 4) Re: Mp3 abuse here we go again by Andreas Skarin 5) Re: fatez question........ by Eric George 6) Freak Kitchen by "Sigit Prabowo" 7) fates warning by "Tony/Alexis/Axel" 8) Re: you or me/staying alive/floyd by "Andre Navarro" 9) Mosh, after pulling your head out of your ass... by "Stooge" 10) Re: fatez question........ by Graham Boyle 11) Where's our Christmas CD???????? by David or Tammy Landis 12) Re: fatez question........ by "Korg Ecksthrey" 13) Christmas CD? Easter CD now.... by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= 14) Re: Where's our Christmas CD???????? by Andrew Coutermarsh 15) Re: fates warning by Marc van der Wal 16) Re: Mosh, after pulling your head out of your ass... by "Dr. Mosh" 17) Re: You not Me and Stayin Alive... scary by Oliver Pettenpaul 18) Re: see me as you see yourself by "Tanja Sorsa" 19) Re: fatez question........ by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 20) Freak Kitchen by Nick Storr 21) Re: fates warning by Brian Hayden 22) Re: fates warning by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 23) RE: 2000 Christmas CD? Easter CD now.... by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 24) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5764 by email_address_removed 25) Re: fates warning by Graham Boyle 26) Re: fatez question........ by Oddvar Lovaas 27) Re: fatez question........ by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 28) Superior status and clips by Superior - Bernd Basmer 29) WANTED: DOUBLE JAY by CyberDuke ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:50:56 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: you or me/staying alive/floyd Message-ID: >Not only are the lyrics somewhat similar, but the melodies are almost >exactly the same (maybe in a slightly different key). The similarity I >think is even more noticable in YOU OR ME.. I always knew there was >something I ddin't like about that song ;) LOL I never thought of that one.... :) I always thought floyd's The Wall was heavily disco-themed. If you listen to Another Brick In The Wall, the baseline is totally disco. And the line "Hey! Teacher! Leave those kids alone". I always see john travolta going into that pointing pose, right on the "Hey" and again on "Teacher". and right after that line there's those three chords - "bowm, bowm, bowmbidabowm". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:44:54 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mp3 abuse here we go again Message-ID: > From: Andreas Skarin > Subject: Mp3 abuse (was Freak Kitchen) > > You've got 30 mp3's and you still haven't bought any of > their albums? What's up with that? Listen up buddy, I got all those 30 songs in the last 3 days from now. If you paid more attention you would notice that it was just 3 jams earlier that that first guy mentioned Freak Kitchen on the Ytsejam. AFTER that mentioning I checked one URL and read that Vai comment, which made me go with Napster and check out the band. I got the mp3s in the last 2 days. Got that? It means yesterday and before yesterday! PHYSICALLY I have NO WAY of buying any Freak Kitchen CD even if I have 2 more days to live. But why do I even try to justify myself? > I don't know the whole situation, and I'm not attacking you > personally, but when people abuse mp3's like that, I'm > almost inclined to side with Mr. Ulrich in the mp3 debate. You are not someone who can judge wether it's abuse or not. You don't even know me. MANY people said they use Napster to check out some cool new music and then probably buy it. I belong in the same category. I don't really care if someone thinks even this is bad. That's their problem. I am perfectly calm with what I do, and I claim to use Napster as nuts AND buy CDs as nuts. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:34:54 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: Fatez, Symphony X Message-ID: At 11:37 AM 2/11/2001, you wrote: >amazon. If you happened to be in the San Francisco Bay >Area, there's a couple of stores called "Compact Disc >Werehouse" that have almost everything in stock (they >have a big prog section). Rasputin's on Bascom Avenue in Campbell is better. They have not only a "Prog" section, but a "prog metal" section with mini-reviews of about 30% of the albums. ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:54:57 +0100 From: Andreas Skarin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mp3 abuse here we go again Message-ID: <3A875E91.7585AB21@sdts.nu> CyberDuke wrote: > You are not someone who can judge wether it's abuse or not. You don't e= ven > know me. I seem to have jumped the gun a bit, and I do apologize, even if my intention was not to attack you personally. But I must say, you seem a little to defensive to be convincing :o) > PHYSICALLY I have NO WAY of buying any Freak Kitchen CD even if I have = 2 > more days to live. Well, I'm not totally sure what you mean, but here's some links to online stores where you can get Freak Kitchen: http://www.cdzone.co.uk/ http://www.cduniverse.com/ http://www.cdnow.com/ http://www.cdconnection.com/ http://www.musicmailexpress.com/ -- Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater-S=E4llskapet http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:55:17 -0500 (EST) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: fatez question........ Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Korg Ecksthrey wrote: > > > My question is this, if ChromaKey didn't involve Kevin Moore at all and > was > > Yanni or some Joe Blow, how many of you would listen to this boring drab > > Hey, I like Yanni, ya hoser! :D > > I second that. Props to someone who can bring forth that kind of emotion from an instrument. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:53:17 +0700 From: "Sigit Prabowo" To: Subject: Freak Kitchen Message-ID: <02fc01c094a7$55b13520$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo> G'day to all Freak Kitchen fans ... So glad that finally this great band is mentioned in a reverent tone. FK is truly one of Sweden's greatest contribution to the music world in the 90's ... (Which comes as no surprise at all, since they also have Pain Of Salvation ..) All of their albums are worth collecting. Please check out also Mattias Eklundh's solo CD, Freak Guitar. Think Ron Thal. Then double, no, triple the craziness. You're almost there. Where else can you hear Detroit Rock City played in a jazzy nylon-acoustic arrangement ? :) BTW, we in Indonesia are very lucky because FK's albums are domestically released. Sigit funny, I just planned to have an FK special on my metal radio show ! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:27:05 -0400 From: "Tony/Alexis/Axel" To: "ytsejam" Subject: fates warning Message-ID: <002801c094ac$0ee5c980$message_id_removed> Just to add my comments about fates. Disconnected is one of my least favorite fates cds, although it's not bad. But I think it pales in comparison with APSOG, Parallels, Perfect Symmetry, etc. Disconnected I think is the only prog album I've heard that does not include any kind of solo in the music. I don't need to have solos flying everywhere, but a tasteful solo like on some sections of APSOG would have been a big plus. Also, Disconnected is very short and the last song is as boring as they come. And, in relation to old fates (Arch era), I really don't consider them to sound like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest (I'm actually talking about the albums The Spectre Within and Awaken the Guardian, since I've never heard Night on Brocken). Old fates is more complex than these other two bands (BTW, I LOVE Maiden). ATG is actually one of my favorite fates albums. Spectacular vocals and music. Very different from present fates, but still awesome. Alright, that's it. Alexis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:38:00 -0400 From: "Andre Navarro" To: Subject: Re: you or me/staying alive/floyd Message-ID: jajaja, I think so too, I always have to change the song whenever I'm listening to it and someone happens to go by my room, guess I'm embarresed of disco, hehe > I always thought floyd's The Wall was heavily disco-themed. If you > listen to Another Brick In The Wall, the baseline is totally disco. And > the line "Hey! Teacher! Leave those kids alone". I always see john > travolta going into that pointing pose, right on the "Hey" and again on > "Teacher". and right after that line there's those three chords - "bowm, > bowm, bowmbidabowm". ------------------------------------------------------------------ Andre Navarro "Hoooowdy hooo!" -Mr. Hanky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:48:51 -0700 From: "Stooge" To: Subject: Mosh, after pulling your head out of your ass... Message-ID: <000601c094b7$79f50280$message_id_removed> You might wanna rethink spewing your bullshit. Stereotyping an entire board because they disagree with your OPINION is both immature and closeminded. As a member of both the Jam and Perpetual Motion I could also offer an opinion as to the closemindedness of the members of these prog music resources. But I shant. Alas, you have proven beyond a doubt that the Ytsejam houses at least one very closeminded and rude son of a bitch. I see no need to point any more fingers. TaTa Stooge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:51:00 +1100 From: Graham Boyle To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: fatez question........ Message-ID: Korg Ecksthrey wrote: > Hey, I like Yanni, ya hoser! :D So do I, as well as Enya, Mike Oldfield and loads of other new age stuff. The point I was making, that (it seems) everyone is raving over it and liking it because it was KM thing and not beacuse of the musical qualities. graham NP: Amorphis - Am Universum ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:57:03 -0600 From: David or Tammy Landis To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Where's our Christmas CD???????? Message-ID: I'm surprised that no one is bitching about not getting the Christmas CD yet. Well, I am. I know they said a Jan/Feb release, but wasn't Christmas on Dec. 25th?? Now it's the middle of February. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:11:38 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: fatez question........ Message-ID: <001f01c094ba$c220c7d0$644153d8@washburn> > The point I was making, that (it seems) everyone is raving over it and liking it because > it was KM thing and not beacuse of the musical qualities. Hmmm... I would like to think that most people here aren't juvenile enough to stoop to the assinine mentality of "Oooh... AJ's on this album! I must get it and it's going to be good as long as it has pictures of him in it!!!" I think the fact that ChromaKey is Kevmo does indeed lead people into listening to it as well it should. Of course, I've read enough posts from people who thought CK was a pile of shit to disprove your theory. :) Personally, KevMo's stuff hit big on me even pre-CK. I got his MMtBH demos and thought they were the shit back then. hehehe. I've still yet to pick up You Go Now, though. I've heard that one's a bit iffy so I've been putting it off. -- KorgX3 doesn't think Kevin Moore is God, yet he may have the potential to become so. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:17:50 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= To: Subject: Christmas CD? Easter CD now.... Message-ID: <004201c094bb$878c7be0$message_id_removed.mx> i just got the #19 fanzine....so i think that i should be getting the next fanzine and Xmas cd by easter i think (april right?). Easter Cd. i know its tough to keep up with all that...so Im not bitching about it. just let it be something REALLY SPECIAL (like all the past ones) and cram AS MUCH AS YOU CAN!!! Mauricio ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "David or Tammy Landis" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:09 AM Subject: Where's our Christmas CD???????? > > I'm surprised that no one is bitching about not getting the Christmas CD yet. Well, I am. I > know they said a Jan/Feb release, but wasn't Christmas on Dec. 25th?? Now it's the middle of > February. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:17:45 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Where's our Christmas CD???????? Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, David or Tammy Landis wrote: > I'm surprised that no one is bitching about not getting the Christmas > CD yet. Well, I am. I know they said a Jan/Feb release, but wasn't > Christmas on Dec. 25th?? Now it's the middle of February. Wait a second here. You're bitching about something that you get as a BONUS? There's nothing that says that you're gonna get a Christmas CD at all, and yet you're here complaining because it hasn't arrived on time. This is exactly what I hate about certain types of DT fans. There is NOTHING that says that the band or the fan club has to do this for the fans and I, for one, am just glad that we GET this kind of thing, let alone WHEN. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:34:22 +0100 From: Marc van der Wal To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: fates warning Message-ID: <3A8791FE.7F77000D@cable.a2000.nl> > comparison with APSOG, Parallels, Perfect Symmetry, etc. Disconnected I > think is the only prog album I've heard that does not include any kind of > solo in the music. I don't need to have solos flying everywhere, but a Still Remains has a very tastefull solo, and it's played twice... marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:07:59 -0800 From: "Dr. Mosh" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mosh, after pulling your head out of your ass... Message-ID: On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 09:57:32PM -0800, Stooge wrote: > > You might wanna rethink spewing your bullshit. Stereotyping an entire board > because they disagree with your OPINION is both immature and closeminded. As > a member of both the Jam and Perpetual Motion I could also offer an opinion > as to the closemindedness of the members of these prog music resources. What's a matter, did I touch a nerve? Why don't you go back and sulk in your trailer park. I'll spew as much bullshit as I want, but you know, the only bullshit that hurts is the truth, and I've hit a home run on this one it seems. Go back to your cave and bang your head. "Metal is good... yes... Napster Bad..." You are prime example of the James Hetfield syndrome. > > But I shant. Alas, you have proven beyond a doubt that the Ytsejam houses at > least one very closeminded and rude son of a bitch. I see no need to point > any more fingers. Haha you little bitch, that's right, I'm a rude son of a bitch, but I'll never be picking scabs off my dick and eating them and calling it gourmet like you. > TaTa > > Stooge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:40:23 +0100 From: Oliver Pettenpaul To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: You not Me and Stayin Alive... scary Message-ID: <3A87A177.3EE961B@gmx.de> Brad Plumb wrote: > > So I'm listening to this copy of Stayin Alive sung by Ozzy and Dweezil > Zappa (which is scary enough in and of itself) when I notice these lines in > the bridge: Ozzy ? Is there a copy with Ozzy as well ? I just know the one with Donny Osmomd on the 'Confessions' album. Just wondering... Cheerio, O//i - imaging Ozzy in the grease-suit... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:45:51 EET-2 From: "Tanja Sorsa" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: see me as you see yourself Message-ID: Hey. [josh wrote] anyone know a proggy song from the early nineties, "see me as you see yourself?" ------------- Yep... It's THE CHANCE... I know absolutely nothing of them, except that they have a great 6-song EP... Tanja aka Tenze ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:06:59 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: fatez question........ Message-ID: Korg Ecksthrey wrote: > > I think the fact that ChromaKey is Kevmo does indeed lead people into > listening to it as well it should. Of course, I've read enough posts from > people who thought CK was a pile of shit to disprove your theory. :) > Personally, KevMo's stuff hit big on me even pre-CK. I got his MMtBH demos > and thought they were the shit back then. hehehe. I've still yet to pick > up You Go Now, though. I've heard that one's a bit iffy so I've been > putting it off. > -- > KorgX3 doesn't think Kevin Moore is God, yet he may have the potential to > become so. Exactly, But do get You go now..i used to think it wasnt up to par with with DAFR, but it is one of those albums that keeps growing on you, until it "clicks"... Yes, the music is a bit more experimental, there is no real drums or bass (no mark zonder or vera) so it may be a little hard to get into (if youre not into electronic music at all) it has the usual wierd beat/sample/wierdo talking type songs too :) For me, Kevin moore is now an artist...a single artist and i love his music... i DO wish he wouldve stayed with DT, but if that wouldve meant that we wouldve never had DAFR and YGN to listen to, then im glad he left when he did .. -- Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. Box 29742 San Juan, PR 00929 Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 =============================== Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and services Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:01:45 +1100 From: Nick Storr To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Freak Kitchen Message-ID: Oh my word.... I posted about MP3s / napster and how I think it's ok to download whole albums if you've already ordered them etc etc bla bla bla.... anyways, I kinda thought I should chek out Freak Kitchen, the band that started the whole thread and my wordy they're not half bad at all are they... :P I'm currently downloading LOTS of stuff, and going into town tomorrow to apply for a renewal on my visa card so I can order the entire back-catalogue..... Just thought I'd mention that... puting my money where my big mouth is.... Nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:08:22 -0600 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: fates warning Message-ID: As if anyone gives half a shit, but I'll toss in my own opinion and say that I enjoy Disconnected quite a bit, because imo it's the first time that Alder has managed to not annoy me throughout an album. BTW Gaz you wanker Kevin is GOD!!@#@!! You're a 100zEr! -Brian > Just to add my comments about fates. Disconnected is one of my least > favorite fates cds, although it's not bad. But I think it pales in > comparison with APSOG, Parallels, Perfect Symmetry, etc. Disconnected I > think is the only prog album I've heard that does not include any kind of > solo in the music. I don't need to have solos flying everywhere, but a > tasteful solo like on some sections of APSOG would have been a big plus. > Also, Disconnected is very short and the last song is as boring as they > come. -- "Is there anything you won't drink?" "Poison. I'm saving it for you." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:58:00 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: fates warning Message-ID: Brian Hayden wrote: > As if anyone gives half a shit, but I'll toss in my own opinion and say that > I enjoy Disconnected quite a bit, because imo it's the first time that Alder > has managed to not annoy me throughout an album. > > BTW Gaz you wanker Kevin is GOD!!@#@!! You're a 100zEr! > > -Brian > Me too :) I urge everyone who bought disconnected to listen to it again and again until it clicks :) believe me, it will... When i first got it i was like hey nice cd..ho-hum..la la .. then i started listening to it every day at work (mainly because it was heavy enough to keep me upbeat, and "mellow" enough to listen to it at any audible level at work) and boy do i love this cd... specially something from nothing and still remains wow! Alexis: shutup youre a wank lover :) Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. Box 29742 San Juan, PR 00929 Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 =============================== Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and services Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:24:32 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: 2000 Christmas CD? Easter CD now.... Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D182C@ISDCRE00> I'm glad you mentioned that because I'd totally forgotten about the = 2000 Xmas CD not arriving yet....... :/=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mauricio Mart=EDnez [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:30 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Christmas CD? Easter CD now.... >=20 >=20 > i just got the #19 fanzine....so i think that i should be getting the = next > fanzine and Xmas cd by easter i think (april right?). Easter Cd. > i know its tough to keep up with all that...so Im not bitching about = it. > just let it be something REALLY SPECIAL (like all the past ones) and = cram > AS > MUCH AS YOU CAN!!! > Mauricio >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > ]From: "David or Tammy Landis" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:09 AM > Subject: Where's our Christmas CD???????? >=20 >=20 > > > > I'm surprised that no one is bitching about not getting the = Christmas CD > yet. Well, I am. I > > know they said a Jan/Feb release, but wasn't Christmas on Dec. = 25th?? > Now > it's the middle of > > February. > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:22:09 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5764 Message-ID: brian, thanks for the info. i appreciate it. there *does* seem to be a lot of hype around symph x but i have a real urge to hear something that everyone is describing. plus, i believe micheal romeo is in the band, no? i thought his work on the working man cd was the shit (as was billy sheehans and james murphys). out, jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:03:36 +1100 From: Graham Boyle To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: fates warning Message-ID: Brian Hayden wrote: > BTW Gaz you wanker Kevin is GOD!!@#@!! You're a 100zEr! Go fuck yourself asswipe and keep jerking off to those Wille Nelson albums that you adore so much. Listen to some real music like Pain Of Salvation. graham ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:10:18 +0100 From: Oddvar Lovaas To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: fatez question........ Message-ID: <02d390613180c21PCOW025M@blueyonder.co.uk> >Yes, the music is a bit more experimental, there is no real drums or bass (no >mark zonder or vera) didn't kev do the basses himself on DAFR? < flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://www.oddvar.org/ - ICQ: 3253879 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:20:29 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: fatez question........ Message-ID: yeah but im pretty sure he used keyboards for it :) Oddvar Lovaas wrote: > >Yes, the music is a bit more experimental, there is no real drums or bass (no > >mark zonder or vera) > > didn't kev do the basses himself on DAFR? > > < flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://www.oddvar.org/ - ICQ: 3253879 > -- Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. Box 29742 San Juan, PR 00929 Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 =============================== Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and services Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:40:49 +0100 From: Superior - Bernd Basmer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Superior status and clips Message-ID: Hi! >BTW, Bernd, what's the status of the new album, anyway? Good to see you're >still around, too, bro. :) Well, we have just recorded a demo for the record companies. The demo contains the first 8 songs. We have planned to have 12 songs on the CD this time. 12 songs and a lot of musical and spoken parts inbetween because, as you might know, it's gonna be a concept album... The story has taken a few steps forward too and we have planned to be done with the story board in about 7 - 8 weeks. We will have a lot of sound effects and spoken parts on the CD. We try to make it as movie-like as possible. >how 'bout some samples???? You will get some samples on our homepage soon. I have recorded 5 clips from the demo and I will put them there in the next few days. I will post a message here when they are up. For anyone who would like to get more and steady information, I can only tell you to go on our homepage and sign up for the Superior newsletter I send out every few months. There is a lot of information about the band status in the newsletter and I plan to send it out more often in the future. Greetings Bernd -------------------------------------------------------------- Bernd Basmer Guitar - Superior For info about Superior look at http://www.meet-superior.de/ -------------------------------------------------------------- It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:34:47 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: Ytsejam , DoubleJay54@aol.com Subject: WANTED: DOUBLE JAY Message-ID: Hey man, send me an e-mail immediately with your home telephone number and what time of the day I can reach you approximately. Let's finish this damn trade already. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5765 **************************