YTSEJAM Digest 5759 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Metal Sludge by "HJ Rivera" 2) Re: YTSESHIRT by Adrian Tunggono 3) Re: Metal Sludge by "HJ Rivera" 4) Re: Jordan's New Solo CD by email_address_removed 5) Avantasia question (again) by "Tony/Alexis/Axel" 6) DT Glasgow by Oddvar Lovaas 7) WinterKill by Michael & Pamela Nazer 8) SAVE Up To 60% On Your Bills...FREE Info... 26581 by email_address_removed 9) Deep Purple/Styx by "Dark Majesty" 10) Re: Deep Purple/Styx by Damon Fibraio 11) Re: Deep Purple/Styx by Brian Hayden 12) Avantasia by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 13) RE: the shirts by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 14) Korg, mollusks and genitals, OH MY! by Dan Costello 15) Re: Deep Purple/Styx by "Kez" 16) Re: Avantasia question (again) by "HJ Rivera" 17) Ytse-shirt by "Al @ Switchcraft" 18) The ProGtologist? by Andrew Coutermarsh 19) RE: Deep Purple/Styx by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 20) RE: Deep Purple/Styx by David Dixon 21) Re: Deep Purple/Styx by Damon Fibraio 22) ytseshirt updates by Joshua Rasiel 23) ytseshirt paypal deal by Joshua Rasiel 24) Re: ytseshirt updates by "Korg Ecksthrey" 25) Re: Deep Purple/Styx by Chris Oates 26) Re: Deep Purple/Styx by Andrew Coutermarsh ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:07:26 -0500 From: "HJ Rivera" To: Subject: Re: Metal Sludge Message-ID: <014001c08fc8$67b796d0$message_id_removed> Click on the 20 Questions link and you'll find a link inside to: MIKE PORTNOY from Dream Theater, 6/20/00 BTW - Donna's an alias. She hasn't banged all those men - she gets reports from people who contact her. joe np: the sounds of silence > > Erm. http://www.metal-sludge.com > > > I went there, and never did find anything about MP, but did you guys see the > "Penis Chart" page by Donna Anderson? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:53:06 +0700 From: Adrian Tunggono To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSESHIRT Message-ID: Hey Josh, would you sell overseas? How much would that add to the cost? I live in Indonesia :-( I'd understand though if you say no. Sigh. > answer me here or email me, i don't care. also, if anyone needs anything > other than XL or XXL and they haven't yet emailed me, please do so soon. > If you have, don't do it again, you'll just be screwing with me. > > Thank you! > Josh -- pluki7-4290051-8498006 | Look in the mirror my friend | | Let's stare the problem right in the eye | | | | -M. Portnoy | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:09:16 -0500 From: "HJ Rivera" To: Subject: Re: Metal Sludge Message-ID: <014401c08fc8$a975ba70$message_id_removed> Oh - and here's a direct link to Mike's interview. http://www.metal-sludge.com/20QuestionsPortnoy.htm joe > I went there, and never did find anything about MP, but did you guys see the > "Penis Chart" page by Donna Anderson? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:57:52 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Jordan's New Solo CD Message-ID: Check out http://www.thruhereyes.com/ for the first photo of Jordan's NAMM Jam. More Jordan stuff on its way. The solo CD is being recorded as we speak. << From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" I think Vai would much rather fit with Rudess's style and Jordan has expressed his wish to work with him in the future, too. :) >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:24:09 -0400 From: "Tony/Alexis/Axel" To: "ytsejam" Subject: Avantasia question (again) Message-ID: <002d01c08fdb$81cd5060$message_id_removed> Hello. Could anybody let me know where I could buy the Avantasia cd online? Thank you very much. Alexis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 01:45:35 +0100 From: Oddvar Lovaas To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT Glasgow Message-ID: <0ee921552010621PCOW035M@blueyonder.co.uk> A month ago there was some talk about a boot-tree of the show in Glasgow, 18 October 2000... and it was put on ice because of the amount of work needed... which I respect and understand... Now, I've just been wondering... could it be possible for one of you who has the show to mp3 it and put it up on Bogie's site (if that is fine by Nick)? I am really longing to re-live the show!:) Cheers! < flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://www.oddvar.org/ - ICQ: 3253879 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:41:23 -0600 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer To: ytsejam Subject: WinterKill Message-ID: > As a bonus, J.J. Kelley's will be independently sponsoring Chicago's > Winterkill as the warm up band for ProgPower USA. They will hit the stage at > 5:30pm on Friday. ProgPower USA will still start promptly at 7:00pm CST. > This was recently posted on the Prog Power site, does anyone have info on this band? Thanks in advance... Pam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:07:47 -0600 From: email_address_removed To: Subject: SAVE Up To 60% On Your Bills...FREE Info... 26581 Message-ID: <000052be2c4b$00006692$000067d5@> Home Page

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------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 22:12:58 -0600 From: "Dark Majesty" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: Hello all: I need some help here. I have my CDs organised into Prog and Non-Prog, and I need to know whether Deep Purple and Styx are Prog or not. Obviously DT, SymX, Kansas, Rush, Yes, et cetera are Prog, and Metallica, Fear Factory, Godsmack, Zwarte', and such aren't, but I can't figure out where to put DP and Styx. This is kinda getting redundant, isn't it? I'll stop now. Thank you for any help. --96 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 23:43:42 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: I put styx in my prog section and DP in my non prog, I think. At 11:21 PM 2/5/2001, you wrote: >Hello all: > >I need some help here. I have my CDs organised into Prog and Non-Prog, and >I need to know whether Deep Purple and Styx are Prog or not. Obviously DT, >SymX, Kansas, Rush, Yes, et cetera are Prog, and Metallica, Fear Factory, >Godsmack, Zwarte', and such aren't, but I can't figure out where to put DP >and Styx. This is kinda getting redundant, isn't it? I'll stop now. > >Thank you for any help. > >--96 >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email email_address_removed aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f cohost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 00:12:03 -0600 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: The better question is, why the hell are you worrying about fuzzy and meaningless "genre" distinctions? Just put all your cds in alphabetical order, they're easier to find. If you can't decide where to put Styx right now, you're not going to have a clear-cut place to look for them later on either no matter which way you decide. Down with genre theory! -Brian > > Hello all: > > I need some help here. I have my CDs organised into Prog and Non-Prog, and > I need to know whether Deep Purple and Styx are Prog or not. Obviously DT, > SymX, Kansas, Rush, Yes, et cetera are Prog, and Metallica, Fear Factory, > Godsmack, Zwarte', and such aren't, but I can't figure out where to put DP > and Styx. This is kinda getting redundant, isn't it? I'll stop now. -- I curse you and the beer you rode in on! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:36:48 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" Subject: Avantasia Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1723@ISDCRE00> Yeah what Moonchild said..... go buy the CD :) This CD is awesome, trust us !! JM > -----Original Message----- > From: Moonchild [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 5:26 PM > Subject: Avantasia > > um how about the whole cd? hehe > > tammie newlin wrote: > > > recommended tracks from Avantasia? my curiosity from watching the list > > discussion > > got the best of me and i downloaded track 9 from napster...i'm ready for > > more...any > > suggestions? > > > > tam > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:03:16 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: the shirts Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1729@ISDCRE00> Medium ! Man... I think the last time I wore a medium was more than 15 years ago :) JM > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Tadday [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:52 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: the shirts > > > Josh... > > I'd gladly take a yellow and a black one... > both in Medium! > Thanks!! > > Paul. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:10:50 -0500 From: Dan Costello To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Korg, mollusks and genitals, OH MY! Message-ID: HAHA, here's something you guys might find funny. My UNIX Sys Admin book has a section on selecting a root password that'd be hard to guess. They suggest "boiling down a phrase of 'shocking nonsense'" - something that it rather offensive and that makes absolutely no sense. ('boiling down' would be, for example, making an acronym out of the words in the phrase) Their example phrase: "Mollusks peck my galloping genitals" >BTW, I went to school with a Daniel Costello back in 5th - 8th grades here >in Burley, ID. Not any chance you two might be one and the same, eh? Nope, although, given my athletic aptitude during my middle school years (hell, during my college years, too), that football description probably isn't too far off. Well, I probably would've tried to get it to you, but missed. 8-)b -Dan. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:28:44 -0500 From: "Kez" To: Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: <003801c09049$1c9038c0$0300005a@kezp3800> ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Brian Hayden" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:24 AM Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx > > The better question is, why the hell are you worrying about fuzzy and > meaningless "genre" distinctions? Just put all your cds in alphabetical > order, they're easier to find. If you can't decide where to put Styx right > now, you're not going to have a clear-cut place to look for them later on > either no matter which way you decide. > > Down with genre theory! > > -Brian Damn, I FULLY agree with Mr. Hayden. Why in the world do you try to have your music split into genres?? I don't get this at all....... Alphabetical order is the way to go. Then there is no subjectivity involved when looking for a CD. As pointed out, you are already confused about classification, so why put that margin of error into the equation? Besides, there are many that would argue(myself not included) that early Metallica is the first TRUE progressive metal, and why would you doubt them? It's OPINION. That's all. Kez, clueless ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:00:09 -0500 From: "HJ Rivera" To: Subject: Re: Avantasia question (again) Message-ID: <002401c09055$e199b220$message_id_removed> http://www.aorheaven.com/ http://www.calldownthethunder.com/ joe > Hello. Could anybody let me know where I could buy the Avantasia cd online? > Thank you very much. > > Alexis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 10:07:49 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Ytse-shirt Message-ID: Joshua Rasiel wrote: >Check it out: http://www.numbersixdesign.net/ytseshirt.html I like that that shirt! I know of at least two of my friends that would want at least one. I may buy one in each color as well as one for the little woman.. Nice work! -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:33:18 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: The ProGtologist? Message-ID: Al, when did you resubscribe to the jam? Or did you never leave? Besides this week I haven't seen a message from you in FOREVER. :) ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ ------------------------------------------------- I like to go down to the dog pound and pretend that I've found my dog. Then I tell them to kill it anyway because I already gave away all of his stuff. Dog people sure don't have a sense of humor. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:46:19 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1733@ISDCRE00> Exactly. Just put 'em in alphabetical order. My CD racks have them organized in Alpha order and my text file I keep on the computer is alphabetical as well. A good way to keep them organized. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Hayden [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:24 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx > > > The better question is, why the hell are you worrying about fuzzy and > meaningless "genre" distinctions? Just put all your cds in alphabetical > order, they're easier to find. If you can't decide where to put Styx right > now, you're not going to have a clear-cut place to look for them later on > either no matter which way you decide. > > Down with genre theory! > > -Brian > > > > > Hello all: > > > > I need some help here. I have my CDs organised into Prog and Non-Prog, > and > > I need to know whether Deep Purple and Styx are Prog or not. Obviously > DT, > > SymX, Kansas, Rush, Yes, et cetera are Prog, and Metallica, Fear > Factory, > > Godsmack, Zwarte', and such aren't, but I can't figure out where to put > DP > > and Styx. This is kinda getting redundant, isn't it? I'll stop now. > > -- > > I curse you and the beer you rode in on! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:56:25 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: > > Hello all: > > > > I need some help here. I have my CDs organised into Prog and Non-Prog, > and > > I need to know whether Deep Purple and Styx are Prog or not. Obviously > DT, > > SymX, Kansas, Rush, Yes, et cetera are Prog, and Metallica, Fear > Factory, > > Godsmack, Zwarte', and such aren't, but I can't figure out where to put > DP > > and Styx. This is kinda getting redundant, isn't it? I'll stop now. I'd say Metallica's AJFA album is MOST CERTAINLY progressive ('technical prog'), as is Fear Factory's "Obsolete" ('cerebral prog'), but then you're creating new definitions of prog that you certainly won't remember later... Go alphabetical, then chronological - makes much more sense... -ytseDave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:33:29 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: At 09:44 AM 2/6/2001, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >]From: "Brian Hayden" >Wow, alphabetical order? That would take me forever. I have over 450 CDs. >To: "Multiple recipients of list" >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:24 AM >Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx > > > > > > The better question is, why the hell are you worrying about fuzzy and > > meaningless "genre" distinctions? Just put all your cds in alphabetical > > order, they're easier to find. If you can't decide where to put Styx right > > now, you're not going to have a clear-cut place to look for them later on > > either no matter which way you decide. > > > > Down with genre theory! > > > > -Brian > > >Damn, I FULLY agree with Mr. Hayden. Why in the world do you try to have >your music split into genres?? I don't get this at all....... > >Alphabetical order is the way to go. Then there is no subjectivity involved >when looking for a CD. As pointed out, you are already confused about >classification, so why put that margin of error into the equation? > >Besides, there are many that would argue(myself not included) that early >Metallica is the first TRUE progressive metal, and why would you doubt them? >It's OPINION. That's all. > >Kez, clueless -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email email_address_removed aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f cohost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 14:44:20 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ytseshirt updates Message-ID: fuck! I thought I could get away with it, but nope. all sized larger than XL will have a 1 dollar surcharge. This bullshit is a crime against humanity, whatever extra fabric they need to make these shirts they could probably get by promising all the vietnamese 8-year-olds in the sweatshops another ounce of corn or something. anyway, it's supposed to be a $1 charge for each size up from XL. In other words, a XXXL would have a $2 surcharge. XXXXL would have a $3 charge. I'm not doing that, I'm just gonna add $1 for anything over XL. Since I'm an XXL myself, I'm as annoyed by this as anyone. So when I get the final prices, which are hanging steady in the $13.50 area, that's gonna be around $14.50 for the XXL or above. No other size price has changed. sorry about that, josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 14:51:03 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ytseshirt paypal deal Message-ID: almost forgot: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=megafunk%40optonline.net click there to get paypal if you don't have it already. yes, that's my referall and yes, i'll get $5 everytime someone signs on using that link. So use it! :) And get this: I will split that fat fiver with anyone who signs on to paypal from my referall and then buys the ytseshirt. So in other words, you get a $2.50 discount off the top of your order! If you're not buying one, you can still register and make me five bucks. anyone who doesn't know(most of you probably do) paypal is great. I use it for ebay all the time. once you're signed on, you can use your credit card to pay me, or you can use your bank account if your plastic is all maxed out. josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:49:38 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: ytseshirt updates Message-ID: <001101c09075$fbca5ad0$b14153d8@washburn> > fuck! I thought I could get away with it, but nope. all sized larger > than XL will have a 1 dollar surcharge. This bullshit is a crime against > humanity. That's like people bitching about having to pay for two seats on the plane because they're so fat they can't fit in one. Lose some weight or shut the fuck up! :) -- KorgX3 doesn't mind paying an extra buck or two for his extra padding. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:15:08 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: At 10:24 PM 2/5/2001, you wrote: >The better question is, why the hell are you worrying about fuzzy and >meaningless "genre" distinctions? Just put all your cds in alphabetical >order, they're easier to find. If you can't decide where to put Styx right >now, you're not going to have a clear-cut place to look for them later on >either no matter which way you decide. > >Down with genre theory! Pretty much a ditto. The point of any organization system is to make it easier for YOU to find a CD, not to show off how many CDs of X genre you own. If you aren't clear where to put it, then maybe the system you have is not the ideal one for you. I'm pushing 500CDs, and have them split up as Dream Theater, Soundtracks and classical (as one section) and The Rest. Works for now, though I may split up "The Rest" into Major Label versus Small, independent stuff to make it easier for me to find all those obscure Proggy CDs. ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:38:06 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Deep Purple/Styx Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Brian Hayden wrote: > The better question is, why the hell are you worrying about fuzzy and > meaningless "genre" distinctions? Just put all your cds in > alphabetical order, they're easier to find. If you can't decide where > to put Styx right now, you're not going to have a clear-cut place to > look for them later on either no matter which way you decide. > > Down with genre theory! Well, I don't necessarily say that he should put it in alphabetical order; I mean, if he wants to categorize his collection, that's fine. But what I want to know is why he was so concerned with OTHER people's opinions of what a certain type of music is. If he's going to do something by category, he should only care about what HE thinks it is, not somebody else. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ ------------------------------------------------- "Out of the huts of history's shame, I rise. Up from a past rooted in pain, I rise. A black ocean leaping and wide, welling and swelling, I bear in the tide. Leaving behind nights of terror and fear, I rise. Into a daybreak miraculously clear, I rise. Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, I am the hope and the dream of the slave. And so... I rise." - Dr. Maya Angelou ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5759 **************************