YTSEJAM Digest 5749 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Denon experts by Ryan Veety 2) Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC) by Josh Brand 3) Re: Setlist Scotty's NAMM Adventure pt2 by Michael Kizer 4) NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence by Scott Hansen 5) Re: Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC) by "Timo Virkkala" 6) Re: NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence by Eric George 7) supporting the bands by "Jan-Michael" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:11:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan Veety To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Denon experts Message-ID: Thats true, but extra low sounds below human hearing is always nice. You can't hear 20Hz but you sure can feel it. My car stereo's response is actually goes down to about 16hz. The low bass can also give a feeling of spaciousness which is kinda cool. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a homie bass system. I put a lot of time and money into my car stereo to give the flattest frequency response I can get and the clearest audio on my limited budget. I have a subsonic filter switch on my EQ and I enjoy the sound much more when its off. Ryan On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Mustaine Fan wrote: > > I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but the audio > frequencies are 20Hz to 20,000Hz. There's no real point in > getting any freqencies above or below this, because the > average human ear won't be able to hear it anyways. I > noticed (particulary with car systems) speakers have a 2 > way model with a response of 60Hz-22KHz, and a three way > of 60Hz-32KHz. These are pointless and not worth your > money. I don't think you have that problem in home audio. > > Have Cool, Will Travel. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________________ .' Ryan Veety - http://www.ryanspc.com `. | PGP Key: http://www.ryanspc.com/pgp.txt | `----------------------------------------------------------' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:52:12 -0500 From: Josh Brand To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC) Message-ID: For whoever asked about why I call my Nokia 6161i a cell phone and not a mobile... (it doesn't do custom ring tones...but it plays Ode To Joy when my gal calls :) ) Around 1947 AT&T had ideas for mobile phones. The idea was that instead of large radio towers and big, bulky, ultra-powerful phones, small towers with limited range and similar phones would be used. This could be accomplished if each tower was spaced apart so that their useful trasmitting ranges just overlapped, and than all could use the same frequencies over and over within their own transmitting/receiving area. When a call left a tower's coverage area, it was "handed-off" to another tower on another frequency. When drawn on a map, these zones looked like a honeycomb. When van Leeuwenhoek first used a microscope to look at cork tissue, their honeycomb-like arrangement reminded him of the cells of monks, so he called the spaces cells, and we still do in biology today. So, being the creative guys they were at Ma Bell, they did the same thing with their multi-tower map, and each coverage area became known as a "cell". In case you're wondering why cell phones are rather new when the idea was put forth just after WWII, it's because the technology to actually do the cellular scheme didn't exist. When AT&T asked the Federal Communications Commission (which regulated all airwaves in the US) to give them some bandwidth to work in so that the idea would be marketable if worked on, the FCC gave them hardly any space. (The rest of the world was slow going on this technology 'cause they were all mostly beat to shit by the war and had other stuff to do, like feed people.) So it wasn't really until thirty years later, when Ameritech first set up a trial commercial cell service in Chicago, that we finally had cell service in America. The rest is history. As for why the rest of the world calls these phones "mobile", I'm not sure. Maybe the "cell" idiom didn't transfer well, or if European engineers were working on these phones as well, they certainly weren't going to use AT&T's name for it. So the simple name mobile was adopted. Anyway, sorry to rant. Just thought I'd throw my .02 in since I actually had info. --J ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:17:40 -0800 From: Michael Kizer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Setlist Scotty's NAMM Adventure pt2 Message-ID: At 06:14 PM 1/26/01 -0800, you wrote: >tracks. After JP, Steve Lukather came up on stage and did a track. Last up >was Albert Lee, joined by the EB/MM bigwig who was MC'ing that night on >bass, That would have been Ernie Ball himself if I remember right. :-) >was one with Albert Lee singing (as was Tear It Up). They each had their >section to solo over and i must admit that JP seemed a bit out of his >element during this jam. Not that what he played sucked or anything (I >thought it was good) but he looked uncomfortable up there. Yeah, he wasn't into the rhythym part of the jam, I don't think he knew what they were playing actually, because Steve Lukather kept showing him what the chords were. But, after Albert Lee ripped it up (country flat-picking style) for his solo spot, John P. did a really cool solo in that same style (although at JP break neck speed)... you could see Albert Lee and Ernie Ball nodding and smiling in approval. >to your imagination! They did end the main set with Cruise Control tho! And >for the encore, Van and Rod Morgenstein did a drum solo/duet before the rest >of the Dregs came back on stage and they played a song with both drummers. I'll second it... the Dregs kicked some butt, and the dual drum solo was one of the coolest points of the night... ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:56:59 -0800 From: Scott Hansen To: Subject: NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence Message-ID: Just an FYI, when I sent my NAMM Adventure to the Jam, I did do it in order! :p Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:31:34 +0200 From: "Timo Virkkala" To: Subject: Re: Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC) Message-ID: <008b01c088a8$8f2c43e0$4ee126d4@pentium> ]From: "Josh Brand" > As for why the rest of the world calls these phones "mobile", I'm not sure. > Maybe the "cell" idiom didn't transfer well, or if European engineers w= ere > working on these phones as well, they certainly weren't going to use AT&T's > name for it. So the simple name mobile was adopted. I know that the term cell phone is mainly used in the U.S. and mobile pho= ne in the rest of the world (while speaking English) but guess what we Finns call them? Hand phones. Or, actually, "hand phone" would be "k=E4sipuheli= n" and we mainly use "k=E4nnykk=E4", which could probably be translated as "= handy" (as in a short for hand phone, not as in useful). We also have other, les= s common and more humorous names for them... (I actually know one person wh= o refers to his phone as "dildo" =3D) -WT- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: Eric George To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Scott Hansen wrote: > > Just an FYI, when I sent my NAMM Adventure to the Jam, I did do it in order! > :p > > Scott > > We believe you, honest. Thanks for posting it in the first place. Muchas gracias, mi hermano. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:06:04 -0600 From: "Jan-Michael" To: Subject: supporting the bands Message-ID: <001001c0893b$d564c240$message_id_removed> This is an excellent point. -----Original Message----- ]From: Veronique.paul@eurodb.be [mailto:email_address_removed Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:52 AM To: email_address_removed Hi, To really support the band when you buy a cd, it is better to buy it to the merchandising of the band during the gig. They buy the cd's at a preferential price to the recording company, and the difference between the normal price and the price they paid for it is for the band (minus merchandising costs). The band earn more on this kind of sale than if you buy cd in shops. Of course, this is only possible when the band have a merchandising on tour. Véro ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5749 **************************