YTSEJAM Digest 5736 Today's Topics: 1) Re: DVD by Pat Griffin 2) Re: DVD by "Korg Ecksthrey" 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5735 by "Preston Scheuneman" 4) You know what would be funny....... by Kurt M Hampton 5) Only for Tonight at Napster by Alan Estrada 6) Re: You know what would be funny....... by WB Henderson 7) thanks for the tips by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 8) re: Transatlantic 2 by email_address_removed 9) Re: 99% uphill ? DT as a bench by email_address_removed.br 10) Re: Transatlantic 2 by "Andre Navarro" 11) New Tool album info!!! by Dave Peterson 12) Re: DVD response by Chris Elder 13) NDTC DVD response..GALDIATOR DVD by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= 14) Re: DVD by "Douglas Gray" 15) Re: NDTC DVD response..GALDIATOR DVD by "Paul Tadday" 16) ProgPowerUSA by "Al @ Switchcraft" 17) anyone know where to find Kevin Gilbert rarites? by Nick Storr 18) any jammers / concerts in Hannover during CeBIT? by "op777" 19) BRIDGE LOANS MADE EASY by bridgeloans-lDirect@dongfang.sc.cn 20) Re: ProgPowerUSA by Michael Kizer 21) trial of singles bootleg by "Julio =?iso-8859-1?B?RnVjafFvcw==?=" 22) trial of singles bootleg by "Julio =?iso-8859-1?B?RnVjafFvcw==?=" 23) Re: trial of singles bootleg by Damon Fibraio 24) cd burners NDTC by "Trevor Hoit" 25) Re: Oingo Boingo by email_address_removed (Steve Chew) 26) Re: Oingo Boingo by "Carlos A. Alfaro" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:23:54 -0800 From: Pat Griffin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DVD Message-ID: > So the whole thing is in and working (the new Creative Encore > with remote control and Dxr3 board), and the DVDs with it both > work perfectly. > > Then I bought Gladiator. > > It hung the Creative Play Center control panel and no picture > appeared - the disk is recognised as Gladiator and the first > track is recognised ready to play, but when I click play, > nothing! I had something similar to this several months ago. I ran into a problem where nearly every new DVD I bought (Spaceballs, The Abyss, etc) would no longer play on my computer. The menu would sometimes show up incorrectly, the title wouldn't play, and occasionally it would crash my software DVD player as soon as I hit Play. I have a Sony DVD player hooked to the home theater in the living room, but for watching stuff in my bedroom, I use my 19" monitor and surround sound speakers with my DVD-ROM. Here I was, not able to play new DVDs. *Old* DVDs still played just fine. Even *some* new discs would play without problems. And the ones that were giving me trouble on the PC would still play without error in my component DVD player. So that got me thinking it might be hardware trouble. I check for firmware upgrades, but I was up to date. I contacted tech support for the drive (Toshiba) and they recommended upgrading the *software* that plays the discs -- something I never would have thought was the problem. I had been using DVD Express (the software player, not the online retailer), and I also had CyberLink's PowerDVD player. I looked into it, and there was a new version of PowerDVD out, so I downloaded the trial. Sure enough, it played the "problem" discs just fine. So after all that, it was just the player that was the problem. So getting back to your problem, I would recommend downloading the trial version of PowerDVD 3.0 from CyberLink, and see if that eliminates your playback problems. If it does, get a copy of the full version. You can get it from their website: http://www.cyberlink-usa.com/english/products/powerdvd/powerdvd.asp I have also heard the WinDVD player is very good as well, but I have never used it personally. Anyway, PowerDVD is supposedly compatible with just about every DVD-ROM, video card, and motherboard out there, and the quality is top notch. My only complaint is that it lacks a "Always on Top" feature, which would make watching DVDs while I work online far easier. Then again, I'm running 2.55, maybe 3.0 finally added that. Of course, there is also a good chance that your computer (200mhz) just can't handle the playback. I would highly recommend stepping up your plans to upgrade to a new system. Keep in mind that there are always cheap (less than $150) DVD players out there that you can get. But my feeling is that if you are going to spend the money, spend it once, and get something good. Hope this helps. Pat Griffin The Gabbo Network http://www.gabbo.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:35:47 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: DVD Message-ID: <000901c07f54$497c7ed0$3e5892d0@washburn> > So getting back to your problem, I would recommend >downloading the trial version of PowerDVD 3.0 Hear, hear. When I upgraded to Win2K I started having nasty problems with my Xing DVD player. I switched over to PowerDVD 2.0 and haven't had any problems since. I was playing DVD's superbly on a 400MHz processor. I used to play them before that on a 166Mhz proc. :) I think that was with a hardware decoder card though (can't remember for sure). 1st generation DVD player sucked ass, but it worked. I would think a 200 might do OK on software, but I've never tried it, either. Anywhoot. Good luck! -- KorgX3 thinks PowerDVD is da bomb. WinDVD's not too bad, either. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:23:10 -0500 From: "Preston Scheuneman" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5735 Message-ID: <001c01c07f63$466221a0$message_id_removed> > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:27:34 EST > From: email_address_removed > OK, I'm kinda in the dark here-What exactly did Bahr do? Just take people's > money and not send them anything? > From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" > Not really - Mike Bahr created a lot of classic Dream Theater bootleg CDs > and sold them exclusively on the Ytsejam list here and 1 or 2 newsgroups. I > think he did some Rush boots also. > > I received every DT boot CD he made. The final one took 9 months but it > arrived. There were some people that didn't get theirs. They've been > pretty vocal about it on the list, as I would too if I didn't get mine. His > price was $25 per CD. > The number of people that didn't like him were pretty vocal but there were > more satisfied than not. > > JM I lost about $75 to the prick because he had some bullshit bootleg sale even though he knew he was going bankrupt -- it was just to get a quick buck before filing bankruptcy. I'm definately one who doesn't like him. I should have realized something was up when he was taking fuckin' forever for everyone else's boots. Preston ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:43:34 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: You know what would be funny....... Message-ID: For one of us jammerz to leave negative feedback on Bahr on ebay telling the stories about what he did. I would laugh my ass off, but don't have the balls to ruin someone's life bwhahahahaha. Kurtx3 is jamming to the Hall of the Mountain King. ytsekurt on AOL instant messenger Trade page-www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html "So do me a favor...f*ck off"-James Labrie 11-18-94 Houston "Shut the f*ck up. Ill come down there and kick yer f*ckin ass" -James Labrie 4/16/97 Holland ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:40:42 -0600 From: Alan Estrada To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Only for Tonight at Napster Message-ID: I'll make available a bootleg from 1994 live at the Shank Hall... it's Dweezil Zappa, Mike Keneally, Joe Travers, Bryan Beller and Ahmet Zappa. they play songs from the Z era, from Confessions and also some covers (including a Frank Zappa Medley) do the search in napster for Dweezil shank or zappa shank or shank hall, either should work... it will be available only for tonight. --- Don't talk unless you can improve the silence. Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:49:44 -0500 From: WB Henderson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: You know what would be funny....... Message-ID: Kurt Hampton wrote: >For one of us jammerz to leave negative feedback on Bahr on ebay telling >the stories about what he did. I would laugh my ass off, but don't have >the balls to ruin someone's life bwhahahahaha. The thing about that is that, by eBay policies, you'd have to buy something from him before you could feedback-slam him. And most of us would rather avoid that blood-curdling proposition, I think! I, personally, received all the items I ever purchased from Bahr, though generally they would take forever to get to me. (Luckily for me, I had given up buying bootlegs (and gone into trading) by the time he really went nuts on the scamming.) My biggest problem with the guy was that he was the type that, when people started complaining about his business practices, he'd get pissy and give a sob story on the hardships he'd faced in his full-time job of putting discs into a burner and playing video games while they cooked. Always excuses... Brian [NP...Annihilator -- Carnival Diablos] ============================================== WB Henderson email_address_removed Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/ Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/ WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/ WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/ ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:50:52 From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: thanks for the tips Message-ID:

thanks for the tips on saviour machine.....good to know what frame of mind to be in when listening to this stuff......

Anywho, for what it's worth, my pick for the 'best' of the rap metal bunch is Clawfinger. Their self-titled grew on me pretty well, while deaf dumb blind takes a bit longer. I like system of a down, too, maybe it's that armenian thing....

Partha


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------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:56:42 -0800 From: email_address_removed To: Subject: re: Transatlantic 2 Message-ID: Someone or other said: >> Yeah, I really want to like TA but the music is just so light.. *sigh*. >> Mileage definitely varies! :) I don't have the album, but it was a very, very fun and memorable concert. My friend and I were sitting next to the stage manager, who took us backstage. We ended up watching Neal and the boys from right behind one of the curtains on the stage. What a blast! Amanda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:06:16 -0200 From: email_address_removed.br To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: 99% uphill ? DT as a bench Message-ID: >If we all go over to MP.com it's the same people - so the same talk ! (and >the same SPAM. No ?) Not really... For two reasons: 1) it's not the same people. There're tons of people there who don't subscribe to the 'jam (I'd say most people there don't get the 'jam). 2) There's no SPAM there. >I remember someone trying to compare 'SFAM' and 'V' (was it here ?). >Now 'V' is really cool but no where near 'the best album of all of my 26 >years of existance' and I think that could be IOO (In our opinion) instaed >of the usual IMO. No ? The only thing 'V' has in common with 'SFAM' are >that both are concept albums ! Once again, no... Both are great albums too... V not being nowhere near SFaM? Speak for yourself... I'm definitely in doubt on which is better, maybe it's because I've already listened to SFaM a thousand times so V sounds a bit fresher, but I think they're very close... Hell, lately SFaM hasn't even been my favorite DT cd... Later, Adriano _________________________________________________________ Oi! Você quer um iG-mail gratuito? Então clique aqui: http://www.ig.com.br/paginas/assineigmail.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:38:43 -0400 From: "Andre Navarro" To: Subject: Re: Transatlantic 2 Message-ID: > Yeah, I really want to like TA but the music is just so light.. *sigh*. > Mileage definitely varies! :) I thought so too, but after many listenens, I got to liking it alot, like most people here I think. Anyone planning on buying the live video? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Andre Navarro "Hoooowdy hooo!" -Mr. Hanky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:53:06 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Peterson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, teof@egroups.com Subject: New Tool album info!!! Message-ID: This just in from www.toolband.com... New album title: Systema Encephale Release Date: April 17th (Maynard's birthday) Track listing (so far) 1. Malfeasance 2. U.V.R. 3. Numbereft 4. Encephatalis 5. Mummery 6. Coeliacus 7. Pain Canal 8. Lactation 9. Smyrma 10. Riverchrist With a year that features new albums from Tool, Opeth, Fear Factory and Meshuggah, I scarcely think that I'll have eardrums when Christmas rolls around again! - Dr. Teeth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:44:56 -0600 From: Chris Elder To: Subject: Re: DVD response Message-ID: on 1/15/01 5:51 PM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote: > Has anyone else had any similar problems (I know there are some problems > with Wharfedale players not playing the second disk, but neither will play > in my drive), or can anyone think of what might be causing the problem - > 'cause I'm going to be gutted if this happens with the DT disk! It is Gladiator. I've read of other people having problems on all sorts of different players. (stand alone) I also have to add that Gladiator was the most overrated movie of the year. Mediocre at best. I've had problems with Pulp Fiction, and Cruel Intentions as well on a JVC drive. I'm on my 4th DVD player!(Creative was the first, JVC stand alone second, Sony stand alone, and G4 DVD-ROM now) I will stand by my Sony over any of the others. Can't wait to spin the DT DVD in it. >Doug.. just a personal opinion here, but I would not have a DVD drive in my >computer. Your processor is pretty outdated at 200mhz (no offense.. >mine's only an Amd K6 3 450mhz :) and your processor is working pretty >hard to play DVD's.. I had a Pentium 133 (no AMD or MMX) with a Creative drive with a DXR-2 board running to the TV. Worked fine. So I'm sure the 200 Mhz is fine. (I have since moved on to a G4, a much wiser investment) >If it were me, I would get a stand-alone DVD player to hook up to the stereo >and TV. >But that's just my opinion.......mileage will vary. I agree here having done the DXR route. Once you go DVD you won't ever go back and having the computer on to watch a movie is a pain. Fan noise and such. No remote(in my case, not sure of the quality of the new ones. later corvin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:14:55 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= To: Subject: NDTC DVD response..GALDIATOR DVD Message-ID: <001401c07f9c$cb438740$62aaf094@ernie> In my second DVD of Gladiator (where all the extra stuff is crammed), i noticed something weird, just wanted to know if it happened to anyone els= e here. the extra (or cut) scenes, when i play them, they look rather shitty for = a DVD. with lots of "static snow" in the back. way shittier than a VCR vid= eo i might add. talkin bout cable signals, if not worse. i dont know the sou= rce of the problem, since my The Wall, Private Ryan etc..DVD=B4s play just fi= ne. i have my DVD via S-Video and optical cable for audio. I couldnt get 5.1 audio in the second DVD, but it might not even be available anyway. Mauricio ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Chris Elder" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:51 AM Subject: Re: DVD response > > on 1/15/01 5:51 PM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrot= e: > > > Has anyone else had any similar problems (I know there are some probl= ems > > with Wharfedale players not playing the second disk, but neither will play > > in my drive), or can anyone think of what might be causing the proble= m - > > 'cause I'm going to be gutted if this happens with the DT disk! > > It is Gladiator. I've read of other people having problems on all sort= s of > different players. (stand alone) I also have to add that Gladiator was the > most overrated movie of the year. Mediocre at best. > I've had problems with Pulp Fiction, and Cruel Intentions as well on a = JVC > drive. > I'm on my 4th DVD player!(Creative was the first, JVC stand alone secon= d, > Sony stand alone, and G4 DVD-ROM now) I will stand by my Sony over any= of > the others. Can't wait to spin the DT DVD in it. > > >Doug.. just a personal opinion here, but I would not have a DVD drive = in my > >computer. Your processor is pretty outdated at 200mhz (no offense.. > >mine's only an Amd K6 3 450mhz :) and your processor is working pre= tty > >hard to play DVD's.. > > I had a Pentium 133 (no AMD or MMX) with a Creative drive with a DXR-2 board > running to the TV. Worked fine. So I'm sure the 200 Mhz is fine. > (I have since moved on to a G4, a much wiser investment) > > >If it were me, I would get a stand-alone DVD player to hook up to the stereo > >and TV. > >But that's just my opinion.......mileage will vary. > > I agree here having done the DXR route. Once you go DVD you won't ever= go > back and having the computer on to watch a movie is a pain. Fan noise = and > such. No remote(in my case, not sure of the quality of the new ones. > > later > corvin > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:15:13 -0000 From: "Douglas Gray" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DVD Message-ID: Jan-Michael, I take your point, but it is funny how it plays any other DVD I've tried in it! I would get a stand alone DVD player if I had a TV, but I use the monitor and a TV card at the moment - hooked up to the stereo ;) Yeah, my computer has been ailing from a lack of speed for a while now - it's all being upgraded in a couple of months anyway - maybe sheer speed will sort it out! But not before Feb 26th so I hope the damn thing works for that! Cheers Doug >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:08:28 -0600 >From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" >To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" >Subject: RE: DVD >Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D139C@ISDCRE00> > > >Doug.. just a personal opinion here, but I would not have a DVD drive in my >computer. Your processor is pretty outdated at 200mhz (no offense.. >mine's only an Amd K6 3 450mhz :) and your processor is working pretty >hard to play DVD's.. > >If it were me, I would get a stand-alone DVD player to hook up to the >stereo >and TV. >But that's just my opinion.......mileage will vary. > > JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:37:15 +1100 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: Re: NDTC DVD response..GALDIATOR DVD Message-ID: <006301c07f9f$e9d2ae40$914636cb@PaulTadday> The reason for that is because the "deleted" scenes were never propely "produced" unlike the finished film... If you listen to Ridley Scott's explanation it's right there!! Paul. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Mauricio Martínez > In my second DVD of Gladiator (where all the extra stuff is crammed), i > noticed something weird, just wanted to know if it happened to anyone else > here. > the extra (or cut) scenes, when i play them, they look rather shitty for a >DVD. with lots of "static snow" in the back. way shittier than a VCR video ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:19:24 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: ProgPowerUSA Message-ID: Greetings fellow Jamsters, Once I heard Symphony X was playing at ProgPowerUSA on Feb. 23rd, I secured four tickets and made preliminary travel plans for my party of four... It's off to Chicago! ..Again :) I'm curious, anyone else from the Jam planning on attending? -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:52:05 +1100 From: Nick Storr To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: anyone know where to find Kevin Gilbert rarites? Message-ID: Hey all... I'm just wondering if anyone knows where I can find Kevin Gilbert stuff, other than the official releases (which I have either got or have ordered) Specifically, any well recorded live material, and the original rough mixes of "The Shaming of the True"... I'm told these ARE floating around somewhere....Oh and to be fair, I should warn you I've got very little to trade unfortunately... but if anyone wants to help me out I'll happily tade blanks or come to some other agreement... thanks in advance! Nick Storr email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:44:45 +0200 (EET) From: "op777" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: any jammers / concerts in Hannover during CeBIT? Message-ID: Hooray, I just found out I'll be coming to CeBIT in Hannover on March 24th - March 28th, and I was wondering if any other jammers are going to be there, or if there are some nice concerts nearby. op777 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 01 03:55:47 EST From: bridgeloans-lDirect@dongfang.sc.cn To: email_address_removed Subject: BRIDGE LOANS MADE EASY Message-ID: <200101161256.UAA08993@dongfang.sc.cn> Welcome to DM Financial - your bridge to financial success GET THE BRIDGE FINANCING YOU NEED Here at DM Financial you will find an extensive array of professional services that will enable you to obtain the Bridge Financing you need. A Bridge Loan is the most comprehensive short term financing available. 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It sure seems like a ton of people are heading to this concert (I'll be there) [i'll be there too -k. bibb] ;) Everyone can use the online forum I setup to try and meet up with people, request/offer rides and crash space, etc... http://www.ivorygate.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/ivorygate/ubbcgi/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Concert/Festival+Forum&number=15 ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:40:14 +0100 From: "Julio =?iso-8859-1?B?RnVjafFvcw==?=" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: trial of singles bootleg Message-ID: hi there jammers! i've just bought a dt bootleg named trial of singles, which i am listening to my first time ... i am amazed by the pretty artwork, similar to the one storm thorgersson designed for fii ... it has the eastwest's logo printed on thr cd , and it seems to be official ... (elektra entertainment group, a diversion of warner ...) another thing i can see is that it says it is a promotional copy, not for sale .... anyone knows the "story" of this bootleg?? thanks a lot, guys ... julio fucinos asorey email_address_removed.es bodhi_@ingenieros. Tu e-mail GRATIS en http://www.topmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:40:54 +0100 From: "Julio =?iso-8859-1?B?RnVjafFvcw==?=" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: trial of singles bootleg Message-ID: hi there jammers! i've just bought a dt bootleg named trial of singles, which i am listening to my first time ... i am amazed by the pretty artwork, similar to the one storm thorgersson designed for fii ... it has the eastwest's logo printed on thr cd , and it seems to be official ... (elektra entertainment group, a diversion of warner ...) another thing i can see is that it says it is a promotional copy, not for sale .... anyone knows the "story" of this bootleg?? thanks a lot, guys ... julio fucinos asorey email_address_removed.es bodhi_@ingenieros. Tu e-mail GRATIS en http://www.topmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:05:50 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: trial of singles bootleg Message-ID: Julio, a track list would be great At 11:56 AM 1/16/2001, you wrote: >hi there jammers! > >i've just bought a dt bootleg named trial of singles, which i am listening >to my first time ... i am amazed >by the pretty artwork, similar to the one storm thorgersson designed for >fii ... it has the eastwest's logo >printed on thr cd , and it seems to be official ... (elektra >entertainment group, a diversion of warner ...) >another thing i can see is that it says it is a promotional copy, not for >sale .... > >anyone knows the "story" of this bootleg?? thanks a lot, guys ... > > >julio fucinos asorey >email_address_removed.es >bodhi_@ingenieros. > >Tu e-mail GRATIS en http://www.topmail.com -- Damon Fibraio Musician, comedian, lover, and public menace email email_address_removed aol instant messenger screenname: nhblive MSN Messenger screenname: dfibraio Yahoo messenger name: Damon_m_f cohost of No Holds Barred Radio: see http://www.nhbradio.com for details ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:58:31 -0800 From: "Trevor Hoit" To: Subject: cd burners NDTC Message-ID: <000801c07fe5$f2303da0$message_id_removed> Hey, Anyone have any experience with the TEAC RW-CD22 dual tray burner? They have them at Costco for $269! I know you really get what you pay for with cd burners, but I really want one, but not for $650.. Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:35:54 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oingo Boingo Message-ID: > >well i just had one of those deals where you find out several seemingly >unrelated things turn out to connected, and you go, "hey, cool!". > >I'm sure most of you all know who danny elfman is, right? the composer >for all of tim burton's soundtracks, the simpsons, and basically 2 out >of every 5 hollywood releases. > >DID YOU KNOW: He's ALSO the lead singer of Boingo Oingo, the band that >sings "Weird Science"? that's right! same guy! He has a whole second >career, not just a hobby, a completely seperate legit job as a >rock'n'roll dude. for some reason I had this picture in my head for as >long as I've known the name "Danny Elfman" of this 60-ish skinny guy >with a long beard. > This makes me feel a bit old since I approached this from the other direction having known of Elfman from Oingo Boingo in the '80s and being rather surprised when he moved into doing classical soundtracks. I still find it kind of remarkable that he went from a poppish style rock band (I still enjoy "Dead Man's Party") to writing classical soundtracks. Pretty cool. Danny Elfman's classical soundtrack from the first Batman movie is definitely one of the classics, up there with John Williams stuff IMHO. I still listen to it often. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:33:38 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Oingo Boingo Message-ID: Steve Chew wrote: > This makes me feel a bit old since I approached this from the > other direction having known of Elfman from Oingo Boingo in the '80s and > being rather surprised when he moved into doing classical soundtracks. > I still find it kind of remarkable that he went from a poppish style > rock band (I still enjoy "Dead Man's Party") to writing classical soundtracks. > Pretty cool. > Danny Elfman's classical soundtrack from the first Batman movie > is definitely one of the classics, up there with John Williams stuff IMHO. > I still listen to it often. > > Steve My favorite danny elfman soundtrack HAS to be Pee Wees big adventure!!!! AwesomE soundtrack for an awesome movie Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. 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