YTSEJAM Digest 5728

Today's Topics:

  1) Anton Maiden
 by CyberDuke <email_address_removed.mk>
  2) Korgs comment
 by email_address_removed
  3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5726
 by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh)
  4) Avalon
 by Bobby Tufino <email_address_removed>
  5) Re: Avalon
 by Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
  6) OPTIMIZE YOUR WINDOWS OPERATING SYSTEM!!!!
 by email_address_removed
  7) Testa Maiden Covers
 by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= <email_address_removed.mx>
  8) Virus's Suck
 by Kurt M Hampton <email_address_removed>
  9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5727
 by email_address_removed
 10) Long list of mp3 thingies
 by email_address_removed
 11) Re: Long list of mp3 thingies
 by Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
 12) Re: DT Glasow Tree Answers
 by "HJ Rivera" <email_address_removed>
 13) expiring DTIFC membership
 by Michael Burstin <email_address_removed>
 14) Vanishing Point NDTC
 by "Trevor Hoit" <email_address_removed>
 15) Rush is a band
 by "Trevor Hoit" <email_address_removed>
 16) Re: I HATE BEING REDUNDANT
 by "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
 17) Re: thanks
 by Al Balkiewicz <email_address_removed>
 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5727
 by email_address_removed
 19) Re: Vanishing Point NDTC
 by Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
 20) Re: expiring DTIFC membership
 by Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
 21) RE: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy
 by Nicholas Sakkos <cassidy@x-treme.gr>
 22) Re: expiring DTIFC membership
 by Graham Borland <email_address_removed>
 23) RE: Avalon
 by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
 24) Want to be your own Boss?
 by email_address_removed

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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 23:56:47 +0100
From: CyberDuke <email_address_removed.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Anton Maiden
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.mk>


ROTFL

Bruce sucks, bring on Anton! WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:52:32 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Korgs comment
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


<< <So why don't you whiny little pussies just stick a dick in it and let
 Kurt
 and James get on with their project?
 
 Thank you.>
 
 NO KORG THANK YOU!
 
 Kurt >>


What Kurt said!!!!! :-)

-James

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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:04:13 -0800
From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5726
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


underrated??  What's so special about distrubed??  Nothing... they just
take guitar riffs, give it a 90's edge and call themselves disturbed...
That's like calling Korn innovative.

If you want to listen to good 90's pseudo-metal shit, listen to Linkin
Park...

I'd rather listen to Godsmack then Disturbed.

-The Doc

Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., email_address_removed thus begged:
>
>>yeah, i was irritated with some of the songs on sickness. droppin plates is 
>>one the cheesiest song ive ever heard.
>
>EVERY song on that album is good.  It's in my top five of the year list :-)  
>Yeah, some of the lyrics might be cheesy, but his aggression and vocal style 
>more than makes up for it.  My favorite tracks are "Down With the Sickness" and 
>"Conflict."  For those of you who don't really know Disturbed, they're a 
>nu-metal band with heavy Tool influences.  REALLY good, and underrated.
>
>Ari



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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:24:49 -0500
From: Bobby Tufino <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Avalon
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Hey jammers...I recently heard an album called "Eurasia" by the band
Avalon, and I really like it...I was wondering if any other jammers have
gotten into it, and also if any jammers have heard their older stuff,
I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy it.  Later...

Bobby


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 14:43:01 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Avalon
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.au>


Bobby Tufino wrote:

> Hey jammers...I recently heard an album called "Eurasia" by the band
> Avalon, and I really like it...I was wondering if any other jammers have
> gotten into it, and also if any jammers have heard their older stuff,
> I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy it.  Later...

Yup I have it and frankly it bores me, nothing exciting or original or any
memorable songs.

One of the disappointments of last year, so if anyone wants it, it's in mint condition
no scratches on the CD, booklet is in perfect condition.
$10 US airmail postage paid anywhere in the world.

graham


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:11:35 -0500
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:19:55 -0600
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= <email_address_removed.mx>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Testa Maiden Covers
Message-ID: <001101c07932$a3ae2ac0$dfa8f094@ernie>


where are these covers? can anybody upload them?
the Testa thread was very fun to read indeed.
mauricio

----- Original Message -----
]From: "Andrew Coutermarsh" <email_address_removed>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Maiden Covers


>
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 email_address_removed wrote:
>
> > I'll tell ya who does great Maiden covers. Ricardo Testa. I've heard
> > some mp3s of his covering Maiden and it's great, especially his 14
> > minute version of Wrathchild!
> >                                 -Mike C.
> >
> > NP: Ricardo Testa's 17 minute version of Chains of Misery
>
> Wow, there's a name I thought I'd never hear again.  That was probably one
> of the best months I spent on the jam. :)
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Andrew Coutermarsh
> email_address_removed
> http://cout.dhs.org/
> Cloak on IRC
> ICQ: 2513441
> -------------------------------------------------
> "I have this light switch in my apartment that
> doesn't do anything. So every now and then I'll
> walk by and flip it. One day, I flipped it on
> and off and the phone rang. I picked it up and
> this lady from Germany said 'Hey - cut it out.'"
>  - Steven Wright
> -------------------------------------------------
>


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:40:25 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Virus's Suck
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Virus's suck

The pC with the burner is "ill" right now.

Friggin Norton 2001 didn't detect anything, and my stepdad did some thing
that makes it boot up in safe mode now.  All that happened was the fonts
for MS works got deleted, and it wouldn't open those files. We backed
everything up. But I suggested try reloading MS works. but that would
ahev been to easy so now Im screwed right now.

No mp.com, no dt.net, no IM (hey cloak!) You guys are my source and
salvation right now, don't let me or my ego down, since im such a glory
hog, and love DT to make myself feel good.

Kurtx3 hates this crap, but can still do the jam.

ytsekurt on AOL instant messenger 
Trade page-www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html 
"So do me a favor...f*ck off"-James Labrie 11-18-94 Houston
"Shut the f*ck up. Ill come down there and kick yer f*ckin ass"
-James Labrie 4/16/97 Holland

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 02:48:56 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5727
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


In a message dated 1/7/01 6:29:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

<< > I'll tell ya who does great Maiden covers. Ricardo Testa.
 
> SHHHH!!!!
 
> God forbid we don't want Dick Head coming around again.
 --
> KorgX3 got enough of him the first time around. >>

LOL! Ok, mums the word then. :)
                                            -Mike C.

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 02:51:29 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Long list of mp3 thingies
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


In a message dated 1/7/01 6:29:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

<< Kip Winger -=A0Songs from the Ocean floor >>

They should probably stay there!

                                        -Mike C.

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:13:57 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Long list of mp3 thingies
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.au>


email_address_removed wrote:

> << Kip Winger -=A0Songs from the Ocean floor >>
>
> They should probably stay there!

You shouldn't knock what you don't know anything about, it's
a killer album, nothing like the Winger stuff.
Atmospheric, dark, moody and great songs.

If your into something that's not heavy, check it out.

graham



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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:43:56 -0500
From: "HJ Rivera" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT Glasow Tree Answers
Message-ID: <000d01c07970$aa6a11b0$message_id_removed>


> 5.  Addressed to HJ Rivera:  No, we didn't take back the "offer," just
been
> postponed.

Bah! Get a sense of humor :) I was taking more a swing at the people that
kept asking about signups than at the tree's roots.

joe - who has traded numerous times with KurtX3 and wasn't meant to be taken
seriously


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:30:06 -0500
From: Michael Burstin <email_address_removed>
To: themirror@egroups.com, Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: expiring DTIFC membership
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Just wanted to post a warning here, after discovering this problem w/
my DTIFC membership.  

I had not received anything since my summer issue.  I was concerned,
and after not hearing anything back from emailing the US email address
about my membership decided to email the membership email address from
the Netherlands.  After doing so, I discovered that my membership had
expired, but that there was an error at the printing house, and they
hadn't indicated that it was expiring on the envelope, not included a
renewal form when they were supposed to.  This seems to have happened
to people if their membership was expiring after the summer issue.  

Just wanted to post a warning here before people loose out on getting
their DTIFC CD from the winter issue.

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:22:29 -0800
From: "Trevor Hoit" <email_address_removed>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Vanishing Point NDTC
Message-ID: <000d01c07986$d142d310$message_id_removed>


Trevor:
>Has anyone heard Vanishing Point-Tangled in Dream cd?

Does your copy also start the music on Track 2? 

Yeah, they must have put the CD-Rom stuff on track one
and forgot to renumber it or somthing.

Trevor

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:30:57 -0800
From: "Trevor Hoit" <email_address_removed>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Rush is a band
Message-ID: <000f01c07987$ffdca510$message_id_removed>


Most Rush cds (inc. G. Lee) are on sale today only for $8.38 at CDNow.
I don't know if they are remastered or not,
Time to fill the gaps in your Rush collection...

Trevor 

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:05:47 +0100
From: "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: I HATE BEING REDUNDANT
Message-ID: <01c0798c$ddbe6a40$LocalHost@king>


OK Kurt, sorry for the misunderstanding and all.
I just want you to know that I _really_ appreciate what you and James are doing.
Thanks guys!

Marko
-----Original Message-----
]From: Kurt M Hampton <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Date: Saturday, 06 January, 2001 18:41
Subject: I HATE BEING REDUNDANT


|
|Dudes,
|A few jams ago I posted something saying that we can not do the tree at
|this time for various reasons, but will do it in mid feb. This means do
|not email me or james about signing up please. they just get deleted w/o
|being read.
|
|Graham to answer your question, a cdr tree is in the works for the
|glasgow show with all the screw ups and what not.  
|
|Its starts to bug me when we ask people to patient and they started
|flaming us. What the hell is the point of that. If this continues I might
|forget the whole friggin thing. Its not so bad here, from what I
|understand the mp.com forum is flmaing me right now.
|
|Kurt


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:09:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Balkiewicz <email_address_removed>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: thanks
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>



Not a big fan of the Disturbed album, but I've only listened to it a few
times.  Didn't really catch my attention.  Maybe a couple more listens may
change my mind.

Linkin Park, however, definitely is one of the brighter spots in
"mainstream"-ish music that gets decent airplay.  I would definitely
recommend it if you like a good mix of in your face riffs with the rap,
scratching, electronic thing.  Hybrid Theory is a good pick-up indeed.

Then, of course, is your consummate bright spot in today's more popular
mainstream stuff.  That being Incubus.  Without a doubt one of the better
bands to come into the mix over the past few years.  Definitely pick up
"Make Yourself", then scrounge some cash up for "S.C.I.E.N.C.E.".....

there, my semi-yearly Incubus plug.   :)


-Al


On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 email_address_removed wrote:

> 
> andrew writes:
> << Doh i like Disturbd :( But neways u want something good .. Get linkin 
> park's 
>  Hybrid theory . You wont be dissapointed . I hatwe limp Bizkit but check 
>  these guys out not a bad song on the whole damn album. :)
>   >>


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:18:51 EST
From: email_address_removed
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5727
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


ari writes:
<< EVERY song on that album is good.  It's in my top five of the year list 
:-)  
 Yeah, some of the lyrics might be cheesy, but his aggression and vocal style 
 more than makes up for it.  My favorite tracks are "Down With the Sickness" 
and 
 "Conflict."  For those of you who don't really know Disturbed, they're a 
 nu-metal band with heavy Tool influences.  REALLY good, and underrated.
  >>
yeah, i do dig his vocals. i realized this when my girlfriend said she 
couldnt stand his voice. so i thought, i MUST like them. i thought 
"stupified" was an awesome song the first time i heard it (still do). i 
remember rolling around virginia beach this fall listening to it on thre 
local radio station (anyone on the jam from VB? cool city!). anyway, i think 
ill go listen to it a little. out!
jon

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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 05:27:04 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Vanishing Point NDTC
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.au>


Trevor Hoit wrote:

> Trevor:
> >Has anyone heard Vanishing Point-Tangled in Dream cd?
>
> Does your copy also start the music on Track 2?
>
> Yeah, they must have put the CD-Rom stuff on track one
> and forgot to renumber it or somthing.

Nope, because there is no CDRom stuff on the Aussie version.
We get jipped with 2 'bonus' tracks. Thus being 'On The Turning Away',
a great cover of the Pink Floyd song and 'Inner Peace'.

graham


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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 05:31:24 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: expiring DTIFC membership
Message-ID: <message_id_removed.au>


Michael Burstin wrote:

> Just wanted to post a warning here, after discovering this problem w/
> my DTIFC membership.
>
> I had not received anything since my summer issue.  I was concerned,
> and after not hearing anything back from emailing the US email address
> about my membership decided to email the membership email address from
> the Netherlands.  After doing so, I discovered that my membership had
> expired, but that there was an error at the printing house, and they
> hadn't indicated that it was expiring on the envelope, not included a
> renewal form when they were supposed to.  This seems to have happened
> to people if their membership was expiring after the summer issue.

Yep exact same thing happend to me.
I didn't recieve any issues, but l knew my membership was up.
I didn't recieve any advice that my membership was up.

So I emailed them and eventually found out i needed to renew.
One thing that does bug me is that the only way now to pay for your
membership, is to fax them your CC details.

After being a member for 5 years there's never been any hassles.............

graham


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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:41:49 +0200
From: Nicholas Sakkos <cassidy@x-treme.gr>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy
Message-ID: <3A573CBD.AFC1F6AA@x-treme.gr>


It 's a love afair...

> -----Original Message-----
>From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
>To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
>Subject: RE: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy
>
>
>Exactly right.  Jesus built my hotrod.





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Date: 08 Jan 2001 18:53:07 +0000
From: Graham Borland <email_address_removed>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: expiring DTIFC membership
Message-ID: <message_id_removed>


Graham Boyle <email_address_removed.au> writes:

> Yep exact same thing happend to me.
> I didn't recieve any issues, but l knew my membership was up.
> I didn't recieve any advice that my membership was up.

Shortly after the switch-over from Neil Elliott, I mailed someone to
ask if my membership was still valid. I was told that I still had two
or three issues on my membership. I received one issue of the fanzine,
and nothing since then. I suppose I should renew, since my membership
has obviously expired without me realising it or being informed of it.

-- 
Graham Borland                                     Picsel Technologies Ltd
email_address_removed                                        Glasgow, Scotland


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:43:37 -0600 
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <email_address_removed>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Avalon
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D126D@ISDCRE00>


Yeah, there's talk of Avalon and many other Progressive Metal & Rock bands
over on the Symphony X mailing list.   The best thing to do in a case like
this is to seek out some sound samples on the web and see if you like the
songs.   I have this CD and it's pretty good, but your mileage may vary as
usual.  Find some samples and see what you think.

Jan-Michael



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Bobby Tufino [SMTP:email_address_removed
> Sent:	Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:40 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Avalon
> 
> 
> Hey jammers...I recently heard an album called "Eurasia" by the band
> Avalon, and I really like it...I was wondering if any other jammers have
> gotten into it, and also if any jammers have heard their older stuff,
> I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy it.  Later...
> 
> Bobby

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:27:55 -0500
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