YTSEJAM Digest 5722 Today's Topics: 1) Rudess/Petrucci track listing by Scott Hansen 2) Scenes from New York by "Christopher Frick" 3) Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... by "Andre Navarro" 4) Re: dt font by "Andre Navarro" 5) RE: Petrucci/Rudess CD by "Nick Bogovich" 6) Metropolis 2000 DVD by "Paul Tadday" 7) Re: Metropolis 2000 DVD by "Paul Tadday" 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5721 by Chris Elder 9) RE: Metropolis 2000 DVD by "Tim Detman" 10) Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... by Chris Oates 11) Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... by "Andre Navarro" 12) RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 13) RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 14) New Tunes by Jared Emery 15) Korg Ecksthrey philosophy by Andrew Coutermarsh 16) Re: New Tunes by "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" 17) Re: MIDI files by Chris Oates 18) vanishing points-little DTC by "Trevor Hoit" 19) Re: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy by "Korg Ecksthrey" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:10:18 -0800 From: Scott Hansen To: Subject: Rudess/Petrucci track listing Message-ID: Dan asked: > I know this has been on Napster for a while, but why doesn't anybody have > "Glaidator" or "A Tune"? I've got no problem finding the other songs (yes, I > bought the album - very cool) Well, the incarnation of "The Gladiator Theme" that Rudess/Pertucci played that night IS in fact on the official CD. It does NOT sound exactly like what they played during the last 2 legs of the M2000 tour - in fact it sounds almost nothing like it at all. Anyway, the track is called "In the Moment." And just to let you guys know what did and did not make the CD, here's a breakdown of the entire setlist: 1. Introduction - not on CD 2. untitled = Furia Taurina 3. Truth = Truth 4. Fife And Drum = Fife & Drum 5. State Of Grace - not on CD 6. Hang 11 = Hang 11 7. Bite Of The Mosquito - not on CD 8. synth improv = From Within 9. The Rena Song - not on CD 10. Gladiator = In the Moment 11. A Tune = Black Ice ~~~encore~~~ 12. Hourglass - not on CD Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 18:25:56 -0600 From: "Christopher Frick" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Scenes from New York Message-ID: Dear fellow 'Jammers: Does anyone know how to get the Roseland DVD and video? I am fully aware that it hasn't been released yet, but I was wondering if we're supposed to pre-order it or something. I don't want to get shafted like I did when I ordered my 2-Disk Transatlantic, and they ran out AFTER I sent them the money at CDnow. I bought a DVD player just so I can watch the Roseland show (by the way, my DVD player apparently reads right through the 'defect' in Symphony X's "V" album, if that little swirly thing is the defect, and it reads through huge scratches, which is cool). Dream Theater is still one of the greatest bands out there, and I don't want to miss my opportunity to get both the DVD and the VHS of the concert. Any help or additional knowledge is appreciated, and for obvious reasons can be posted to the 'Jam. Thank you all, Friction...just does what the Voices in my head tell me to. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:19:03 -0400 From: "Andre Navarro" To: Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... Message-ID: OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE, and oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way like Mr.Souter here suggested ;) oh and if you want these intructions in spanish, no problem. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... > > Sorry if I'm late on replying to this....... but here's my guess on > transferring your MIDI files to WAVE format for burning on CD: > > Use your soundcard software that should have the ability to record = > sounds > going through the soundcard to your speakers. Get it ready. Start = > your > MIDI song playing. On the MIDI player, hit 'stop'. Click RECORD on = > your > soundcard software. Click PLAY on your MIDI player. Let the midi play = > all > the way through. Hit 'stop' on your soundcard software. Locate and > rename the WAVE file appropriately (song1.wav, etc..) and repeat = > until > all of your WAVE files are completed.=20 > Burn the CD. > > JM > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:22:58 -0400 From: "Andre Navarro" To: Subject: Re: dt font Message-ID: Andy C.: OUCH, hehe. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: dt font > > Andy C.: > > The question is, though: Does Gilberto have the Majesty symbol in his > font? :) > > > Yes, my friend :-P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:30:52 -0500 From: "Nick Bogovich" To: Subject: RE: Petrucci/Rudess CD Message-ID: Dan, I believe what I had labeled as "A Tune" on=20 Lines in the Sand is now known as Black Ice. -Bogie -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.-- nick bogovich http://www.schliz.com/ you have been schlizzed -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.-- -----Original Message----- ]From: Dan Costello [mailto:email_address_removed Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Petrucci/Rudess CD I know this has been on Napster for a while, but why doesn't anybody have "Glaidator" or "A Tune"? I've got no problem finding the other songs (yes, I bought the album - very cool) -Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:42:37 +1100 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: Metropolis 2000 DVD Message-ID: <001a01c07526$7d7b1800$bf4636cb@PaulTadday> According to Hardradio.com :- The DVD for Dream Theater's Metropolis 2000 is only the performance of the title track with an extra hour of live footage, not the whole show as previously reported. Any confirmation of this Mark Bredius?? Can you give us any details as to the actual tracklisting/running time of the DVD?? Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:04:10 +1100 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: Re: Metropolis 2000 DVD Message-ID: <002001c07529$76efa660$bf4636cb@PaulTadday> I mean... The title track IS the entire cd is it not??? :-P Paul. > According to Hardradio.com :- > > The DVD for Dream Theater's Metropolis 2000 is only the performance of the > title track with an extra hour of live footage, not the whole show as > previously reported. > > Any confirmation of this Mark Bredius?? > Can you give us any details as to the actual tracklisting/running time of > the DVD?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 22:29:28 -0600 From: Chris Elder To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5721 Message-ID: >> >> Ok, all this talk about Jurassic Park DVD has me curious.. Is Jurassic >> Park 3 out yet? Or did the DVD just contain the first two JP movies ? I >> remember hearing about Jurassic Park 3 but didn't know if it was out or on >> that DVD.. >> > Comes out in theaters in the spring, probably Memorial Day. Starring Tea Leoni, William H. Macy and Sam Neill. There is supposed to be a big cameo from someone that has worked with Speilberg in the past. Originally it was going to be set in between JP and TLW, but I believe now that it is set after TLW. Speilberg is only producing, the guy that did Jumanji and October Sky is directing. There is also some new species of dinosaur bigger than the T-Rex. ]From what I've read it is non-stop action and thrills. -chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:17:27 -0800 From: "Tim Detman" To: Subject: RE: Metropolis 2000 DVD Message-ID: it better be the entire cd!! :-) what else would the "title track" be? i don't think it was ever reported as the whole show. a 4 hour dvd??? um no... just as met 2000 and some extra live stuff. the waiting carries on... > I mean... > The title track IS the entire cd is it not??? > :-P > > Paul. > > > According to Hardradio.com :- > > > > The DVD for Dream Theater's Metropolis 2000 is only the > performance of the > > title track with an extra hour of live footage, not the whole show as > > previously reported. > > > > Any confirmation of this Mark Bredius?? > > Can you give us any details as to the actual > tracklisting/running time of > > the DVD?? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 03:04:56 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... Message-ID: At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote: >OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE, and >oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way like >Mr.Souter here suggested ;) Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a computer's MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For the best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the long way. ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:06:45 -0400 From: "Andre Navarro" To: Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... Message-ID: yeah but MIDI will always sound so 80's even on a good MIDI instrument. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Chris Oates" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... > > At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote: > >OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE, and > >oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way like > >Mr.Souter here suggested ;) > > Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a computer's > MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For the > best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the > long way. > > ~Chris > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:28:55 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D11B6@ISDCRE00> hahahah I forget about WinAmp's Wave-Out option......... Never used it but heard about it.. Good suggestion. JM -----Original Message----- > From: Andre Navarro [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:18 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... > > > yeah but MIDI will always sound so 80's even on a good MIDI instrument. > ----- Original Message ----- > ]From: "Chris Oates" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:24 AM > Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... > > > > > > At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote: > > >OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to > WAVE, > and > > >oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way > like > > >Mr.Souter here suggested ;) > > > > Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a > computer's > > MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For > the > > best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the > > long way. > > > > ~Chris > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:31:02 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D11B7@ISDCRE00> OR..... another long suggestion.... learn to play keys themselves and program the drums and sounds and record THAT ! haha > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Oates [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:24 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ... > > > At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote: > >OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE, > and > >oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way > like > >Mr.Souter here suggested ;) > > Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a computer's > > MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For > the > best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the > long way. > > ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:58:30 -0700 From: Jared Emery To: Jared Emery Subject: New Tunes Message-ID: So, due to recommendations from all you ytse-heads, i have bought four new = disks.=20 Children of Bodom- hatebreeder Vanden Plas- far off grace Pain of Salvation- the perfect element Quo Vadis- Angel all i can say, is thank you to all who consistently provide new music sources, = i also want to help by bringing up a band called Madsword. I think they're from = italy, and their music is very cool, but i can only find like one or two songs = off napster, and i am willing to buy the disk, but no where to find it. Can = anyone help? also, any recommendations for new music please reply.....oh yeah, where can i = find the vanden plas "spirit of live" disk? Jared "Never confuse lack of talent with genius" (like kirt cobain) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:09:38 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy Message-ID: I was looking through my archive of old jam material (I have ack mode messages dating back to 5/1/99, that's over eleven thousand messages... Jeez) and came across this message from Korg (well, it's only part of a message, but it's the important part): << Korg's daily thought: And if you think about it, if Jesus were alive today and went around curing illnesses and stuff, do you realize what the first thing that would happen once word got out would be? A crazed team of government dispensed scientists would tackle him and cut him up to see what made him tick. Of course they'd dissect as many of the recipients of his belevolence as well. At least, anyway, he'd make the cover of Enquirer or Weekly World News. -- Thought spawned from listening to Ocean Machine's "Greetings." Don't you love modern society? Or do I just watch too much TV? :) >> I realized, as I did when I first read this a year ago, how profound this was. Just thought I'd share it with everybody... ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same reactions in the brain as marijuana. The researchers also discovered other similarities between the two, but can't remember what they are. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:26:34 +0200 From: "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" To: Subject: Re: New Tunes Message-ID: <002101c075bb$23724780$41f026d4@jykke> ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Jared Emery" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: New Tunes > So, due to recommendations from all you ytse-heads, i have bought four new = > disks.=20 > > Children of Bodom- hatebreeder > Vanden Plas- far off grace > Pain of Salvation- the perfect element > Quo Vadis- Angel > > also, any recommendations for new music please reply.....oh yeah, where can i = > find the vanden plas "spirit of live" disk? > The new Children of Bodom album called Follow the Reaper is very good also. Also check out another finnish band called Sentenced if you haven't yet. Start with Crimson, Frozen or Down. They're all great albums. I've seen Spirit of Live in atleast 3 music stores here where I live so it shouldn't be so hard to find. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:14:04 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: MIDI files Message-ID: At 06:18 AM 1/3/2001, you wrote: >yeah but MIDI will always sound so 80's even on a good MIDI instrument. You've obviously never heard a REAL pro-level MIDI keyboard, or aren't aware that you've heard one. >OR..... another long suggestion.... learn to play keys themselves and >program the drums and sounds and record THAT ! haha Why would that be different? If the MIDI data already exists, then why not just route it through a good keyboard rather than play it again? Unless the MIDI files have some mistakes in the data... ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:32:42 -0800 From: "Trevor Hoit" To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: vanishing points-little DTC Message-ID: <001601c075bb$f1812240$message_id_removed> Has anyone heard Vanishing Point-Tangled in Dream cd? It's decent Australian melodic metal with some prog tendencies, but the thing that stands out is the most Space-Dye Vest inspired/rip-off/clone song called Dancing with the Devil. It's a keyboard/vocal track with tv/movie samples just like SDV. They also cover Floyd's On the Turning Away. Not a bad cd, but not as prog as they would like you to think. My 2 cents (US), Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:55:24 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy Message-ID: <002b01c075bf$2e1f2410$645892d0@default> It makes sense, though, doesn't it? I mean, if the Biblical Jesus existed (hey, I'm a skeptic) and thus returned, why do people think he'd come back in a flash of colored light, 300 feet tall, or with sparkling little faerie lights dancing around his head? And if Jesus were to return as a regular bloke, I'd wager that 99.99999999...% of Christians would denounce him. (David Koresh, anyone?) Ah, well. Just food for thought. :) -- KorgX3 doesn't care either way, cuz if there's a hell, it's gonna be a killer party place. :D ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5722 **************************