YTSEJAM Digest 5714 Today's Topics: 1) Change of email address by "Coenen, Marcel" 2) Crouching tiger, hidden dragon by Dyne 3) RE: Napster by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 4) RE: Acoustic Dreams by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 5) Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour?? by email_address_removed 6) RE: coupla things...Sava by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 7) RE: the newest DT site !! by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 8) Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour?? by Michael Kizer 9) The Christmas surprise by CyberDuke 10) Re: Crouching tiger, hidden dragon by Robert Muise 11) for Derek fans by "Trevor Hoit" 12) 'Tage by "Trevor Hoit" 13) savajosh by Joshua Rasiel 14) Savatage by "Joe DeAngelo" 15) Re: savatage by Kurt M Hampton 16) limited Savatage knowledge.... by Eric George 17) Re: limited Savatage knowledge.... by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 18) acoustic dreams....... by Eric George 19) new email by "Rachel Goldenberg" 20) HaHa by "Souter, Jan-Michael" 21) Atlanta, GA - Music Midtown Festival by email_address_removed 22) Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour?? by email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) 23) acos from last leg of 2000 tour by Damon Fibraio 24) Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour by Andrew Coutermarsh 25) Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour by Damon Fibraio 26) The 'Tage by "Paul Tadday" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:17:12 +0100 From: "Coenen, Marcel" To: "'mcoenen@home.nl'" Subject: Change of email address Message-ID: Hello all !! Just want to inform you that my work email address has changed. the new address is: marcel.coenen@libertel.nl Please update your address book. My home email address will stay the same: mcoenen@home.nl Greetz and already a happy new year !!!! Marcel Coenen Guitarist Sun Caged http://www.marcelcoenen.com http://www.mp3.com/marcelcoenen icq: 22168027 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 02:07:18 -0800 From: Dyne To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Crouching tiger, hidden dragon Message-ID: Anyone else seen the movie "crouching tiger, hidden dragon?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:04:40 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Napster Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10C9@ISDCRE00> This has already been in place for quite a while. Just search for whatever you are looking for. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andre Navarro [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 8:46 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Napster > > > I have an idea, youll all prolly just ignore me but oh well.... > > How bout if everybody that uses napster puts 'ytsejam' or 'ytsejammer' on > ur > dream theater rareties/live etc or just mp3s u would like to share with > the > jammers, so we could just search for 'ytsejammer' and pow we get all these > > cool mp3s. Just an idea, oh and this dosent apply to studio albums > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:16:26 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Acoustic Dreams Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10CB@ISDCRE00> Yeah, those of us that bought the original silver-CD that Mike Bahr put out on the Ytsejam.. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam N. Yarter [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:45 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Acoustic Dreams > > > Hey, does anyone know if there's a higher quality copy of acoustic dreams > than the MP3 bootleg I keep finding? > > Thanks.. > > Kindest regards, > Adam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:59:03 EST From: email_address_removed To: Subject: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour?? Message-ID: Hi gang - I just heard a rumor from a friend of mine (who heard through a guy he works with) about an upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage tour, and the only thing I can find on the net about it is on the official FW webpage (http://www.fateswarning.com): "A close source has stated that there may be a possiblity of a Fates Warning/Savatage tour in 2001" Does anyone have any more info than this, or at least know where to find additional info? As of right now, there's nothing on http://www.savatage.com or Mike Kizer's Ivory Gate website. That tour would KICK ASS, although like many of you, I was extremely disappointed by the Pitrelli and Stevens 'Tage departures. I'm hopeful that their replacements will be at least similar in style and sound. Laterz... Matt T. NP: In Flames "Colony" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:14:26 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: coupla things...Sava Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10D0@ISDCRE00> Hall of the Mountain King is still the only Savatage CD I've ever cared for. Anything after that (to ME) just went off on a tangent.. Mileage varies!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Zebrowski [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 11:04 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: coupla things... > > > Hmmm...I sure haven't posted in a while. (I'm sure no one missed me.) > Speaking of which: it's good to see you again, Ytse-Ben!!! Have your > testicles descended yet? :) > > > -----Original Message----- > > My cousin got an HP Journada 548 Color Pocket PC with > > 32mb and internet, for Christmas. She's currently > > trying to decide if it's worth keeping or it should be > > returned, so we're trying to find info/advice on > > hand-held PCs in general, and this HP one in > > Well, not to be vague or anything, but depending on what you're going > to use it for, you might be better off with a Palm M100 or a pen and > an address book. :) > > Seriously, it all depends on what she's gonna use it for. If she's > serious about the functionality of her handheld, one word: iPaq! (You > can run Linux on it!) > > > > I asked if they would be continuing with > > > the counterpoint vocals on the new one, and he said they > > > pop up on a couple of songs, but, in his words, "it's pretty much > > > back to the Mountain King days." Hmmmm... > > > > This is kinda what I'm afraid of....... :( > > Me too. I CRINGE... > > > I'm a HUGE fan of the last 4 Sava CDs....... but as for > > stuff like Hall of the Mountain King...... I don't think I've > listened to > > that CD but 3 or 4 times in the couple years I've had it. > > I'm with you 100%. I was crushed whn Al Pitrelli (one of the most > emotive guitarists out there, IMO) left to joined that hack band > Megadeth for the big money and fabulous prizes. Then when Zak left, I > was crushed again - he's one of the best singers around. > > The only pre-Zak CD's I have are Hall of the Mountain King and > Streets, and none of them really do anything for me. I mean, Criss is > great (though I prefer Al), and the story is good on Streets, but > that's about it. Now, Edge of Thorns is awesome, as is DWD and TWoM. > I don't have Poets and Madmen. is it good? > > In other news, I ordered my JP/JR CDs on, like, the 21st of December. > They're here already! The website said four weeks, not four days! > Cool. > > I guess that's it. > > See yous later, > > Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:16:05 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: the newest DT site !! Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10D1@ISDCRE00> Can't understand anything on the page, sorry. > -----Original Message----- > From: Gilberto Bressan Junior [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 11:04 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: the newest DT site !! > > > ytsejammers ! > > go check www.dreamtheater.com.br !! > > Although the site is in portuguese, there are a lotta cool things over > there > !!! > > Thanks and c-ya > Gilberto & Adriana ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:38:04 -0800 From: Michael Kizer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour?? Message-ID: At 06:05 AM 12/27/00 -0800, you wrote: >I just heard a rumor from a friend of mine (who heard through a guy he works >with) about an upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage tour, and the only thing I can >find on the net about it is on the official FW webpage >(http://www.fateswarning.com): > >"A close source has stated that there may be a possiblity of a Fates >Warning/Savatage tour in 2001" It is just a rumor at this point, nothing official has been stated... although it is a being looked into as far as I have heard (probably the same source as fw.com -- which is not really an official site, but a fan site. The only official site is the page or so listed at metalblade.com. Just stating this because you won't see any info like this on the official site, the record label will only release info when it is completely confirmed)... That tour would KICK ASS, although like many of you, I was extremely >disappointed by the Pitrelli and Stevens 'Tage departures. I'm hopeful that >their replacements will be at least similar in style and sound. I am really hoping that this tour comes together, if Sava finishes up their album quickly then it may be possible... ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:12:04 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: Ytsejam Subject: The Christmas surprise Message-ID: Damn buisness tricks!!! They just throw in a little snippet so that you drool all over until it is released. I'm really not obsessed with buying DVD, but after watching this ... ummmmm ... strated to think about it. :) Do feel quite moronic because not so long ago I thought it's moronic buying a DVD player just because some DT DVD (as some jammers said). But now ... damn. How much can DVD player cost, without speakers, ... just the player? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:01:35 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Muise To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Crouching tiger, hidden dragon Message-ID: I saw it last night.. nothing short of incredible. On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Dyne wrote: > > Anyone else seen the movie "crouching tiger, hidden dragon?" > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Escalations Manager Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:email_address_removed Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:10:21 -0800 From: "Trevor Hoit" To: Subject: for Derek fans Message-ID: <002101c0701f$83eedb60$message_id_removed> I just picked up Brad Gillis-Gilrock Ranch. He was/is? a guitarist in Night Ranger. The album came out in 92 but has been unavailable for several years, but has been rereleased on Koch Records. Anyway, reading the liner notes, I noticed that Derek co-wrote 6 of 10 songs and plays on 8 of 10. It's not a bad cd if you like solo guitar stuff. Mostly instumental with Greg Allman singing on one track. Trevor bought 20 cds at the Boxing Day Sale. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:27:08 -0800 From: "Trevor Hoit" To: Subject: 'Tage Message-ID: <002201c07021$dc313d20$message_id_removed> "it's pretty much back to the Mountain >King days." Hmmmm... Just as long as it's not "back to Fight for the Rock" days!!!! Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:00:43 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: savajosh Message-ID: My history w/savatage: 1995: I buy ACOS and after reading the liner, subscribe to our crazy 'jam. What is this "bafu" that they speak of? 1996: Since everyone keeps yammin' it up, I check out Dead Winter Dead, and like it right away. I especially like the vocals and the neat-o layering of sound. I put it on the other side of a QR- Rage For Order tape, for the car. Yankees win series. 1996 again: WTF, I say live life. I see another Savatage album and if nothing else, they sure have nice covers - always important to me. This one's Handful Of Rain. I take it home and I'm blown away! Chance becomes one of my all time favorite songs. Did I mention the yankees spanked the braves? Now i'm an official savafan. 1997: Like a monkey learning a valuable lesson after getting stun-gunned for touching button A, I too have learned a boundary, and it goes by the name of "Streets". This was my introduction to Jon Oliva as a vocalist. I didn't give it a second thought: from that day forward, I resolved to never listen to anything Jon Oliva has ever sung, ever. 1997: I'm sick of only listening to DWD, HOR, and Edge Of Thorns. On my way to a Chanukah party, I pop in Gutter Ballet, just to kill some time. It kicks ass. I like it so much, I decide to give streets another chance, and holy shit, it turns out Streets kicks ass too! although, it does seem Savatage has a real penchant for cheese when it comes to these story lines. They call me downtown jesus? I call you savacheese. but it's a very good album. 1997: I grow to love GB and Streets as much as my Zak stuff, but I also notice that there's a regression with each earlier album that I buy. Clearly, this is a band that sucked at first and has grown and developed their trademark sound. I learn about "fight for the rock" and "power of the night" and "fight for the night" and "power of the rock" and decide I won't buy anything earlier than GB, especially since I hear TWoM is supposed to come out soon. 1997: I hear TWoM is supposed to come out soon. 1997: I hear TWoM already came out. In Europe. 1998: I hear TWom is supposed to come out soon on my continent. 1998: TWoM is released and I LOVE IT! The best savatage album EVER! Even the cheesy story is incredible! Can they top this??? Today: Ahhhh, no. They can't. But, you know,all the theatrics and the "food, glorious food!" and all that does begin to wear a bit thin sometimes. the thing I like about Gutter Ballet is, there's no cheesy-ass story, there's no David Copperfield crap(author, not magician), it's more real, and tends to be harder and more energetic. I know there's some story to it, insofar as it relates to oliva's problems, but it's not at all cheesy. So what I'm hoping is that this new thing will be as good or better than Gutter Ballet, but without the cheddar. No reason it won't be. -josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:09:21 -0500 From: "Joe DeAngelo" To: Subject: Savatage Message-ID: <001401c07027$c17ffd80$message_id_removed> Carlos Alfaro said: >Savatage, in losing Zak, and not doing counterpoint style vocals (and staying >away from the concept album, >which i dont mind that much) is effectively shedding the very thing that made >them enjoyable to me. >.so im really not holding my breathfor the next release. >For me, Savatage as a regular metal band (older albums) is so-so..not too >interesting... I agree 100% Carlos. BUT on the bright side..... The new album is now going to be a concept album again (it wasn't originally going to be). Also, I believe they are still doing the counterpoint vox. I'm very curious to see who the new singer and guitarist are! Any speculations or guesses? - Joe D. (Joe hopes that Alex Skolnick is the new axe-man) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:30:48 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: savatage Message-ID: Uhh I heard on the sava site that PM is gonna be a concept album. They said the had written some lyrics, then Paul took those lyrics and in his wonderful style sat down with em and presented an idea for a concept.. Its been a whil since I read that, I think its something about 3 boys whole stumble into some abondoned wherehouse, or something like that. Im really lookin foward to that. Nice to see Matt Smith made it back to teh jam. Kurt NP-In flames Clayman ytsekurt on AOL instant messenger Trade page-www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html "So do me a favor...f*ck off"-James Labrie 11-18-94 Houston "Shut the f*ck up. Ill come down there and kick yer f*ckin ass" -James Labrie 4/16/97 Holland ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:40:36 -0500 (EST) From: Eric George To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: limited Savatage knowledge.... Message-ID: hey jammers, i love TSO, but the only savatage that i can ever remember hearing was the song "edge of thorns". they played it all the time about 5 years ago when pittsburgh actually had good rock radio stations. which of the two singers is on that album? zak, or jon? that'll give me an idea as to whether i would dig their sound or not. thanks. -ryften ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:02:07 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: limited Savatage knowledge.... Message-ID: As far as i can remember the singer on edge of thorns is Zak Stevens... you can get The wake of magellan and i think you will like it a lot!! Eric George wrote: > hey jammers, > i love TSO, but the only savatage that i can ever remember hearing > was the song "edge of thorns". they played it all the time about 5 years > ago when pittsburgh actually had good rock radio stations. which of the > two singers is on that album? zak, or jon? that'll give me an idea as to > whether i would dig their sound or not. thanks. > > -ryften -- Carlos A. Alfaro Internet Solutions, Inc P.O. Box 29742 San Juan, PR 00929 Tel(787) 281-6660 Fax (787) 281-7888 =============================== Internet Solutions, Inc. - Offering quality Internet products and services Access- Dedicated and dial-up, ISDN, Web Hosting, E-commerce, Networking ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:59:56 -0500 (EST) From: Eric George To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: acoustic dreams....... Message-ID: hey again, the post about acoustic dreams made me think about this: every time anyone posts anything about boots, they are always looking to give a copy away for a trade. well, not all of us are fortunate enough to have boots to trade. there's always the option of trading for a copy of a rare lp. or there's the option of trading a copy of a boot (such as acoustic dreams) for cold hard cash. this is sometimes the only way those of us less fortunate can experience such wonderful things. if there's anyone on this list that has a high-quality copy of that memorable fanclub show in rotterdam that would be willing to *sell* a copy to a fellow dt junkie, that would be one hell of a way to bring in my new year. private email response would be preferable. thanks a lot. -ryften ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:35:32 -0600 From: "Rachel Goldenberg" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: new email Message-ID: Hi. I can't just post a message saying that I killed my li.net account and you should please write to me at this dreamtheater.zzn.com address, so I'll tell you how Dream Theater was played at my work holiday party. It wasn't in the main party room, but one guy who loves metal music was tired of the music played so he played one of the two Dream Theater songs he likes on the other side of the office. Gotta start somewhere. Happy holidays. -Rachel Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:47:40 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: HaHa Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D10E2@ISDCRE00> That's one of the funniest "DT Content" messages I've ever seen....... classic ! JM > -----Original Message----- > From: email_address_removed [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 6:41 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5709 > > > fricks' post, although highly disturbing, was one of the funniest things > ive > seen or read or heard or whatever for a long time. DT plug: i had > something > to say about our favorite band but forgot. thanks. out. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:25:51 -0500 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Atlanta, GA - Music Midtown Festival Message-ID: OK! Here's an idea to have Dream Theater play in the states at a festival and promote themselves. MUSIC MIDTOWN FESTIVAL in Atlanta, GA. May 4, 5 and 6. They have ALL TYPES of music and Dream Theater would be awesome to play there. Just ask Mr. Cashman and Mr. Carter - I think they'll agree with me. There is actually a Performer Application on the web site - http://www.musicmidtown.com. If someone could forward that link to Mike or someone in the band - I think we could see them playing in Atlanta. THANKS! Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:57:21 -0800 From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage Tour?? Message-ID: Ahh.. memories of 1994 or something like that when they both went on tour... it was quite a show. Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., email_address_removed thus begged: > >Hi gang - > >I just heard a rumor from a friend of mine (who heard through a guy he works >with) about an upcoming Fates Warning/Savatage tour, and the only thing I can >find on the net about it is on the official FW webpage >(http://www.fateswarning.com): > >"A close source has stated that there may be a possiblity of a Fates >Warning/Savatage tour in 2001" > >Does anyone have any more info than this, or at least know where to find >additional info? As of right now, there's nothing on http://www.savatage.com >or Mike Kizer's Ivory Gate website. > >That tour would KICK ASS, although like many of you, I was extremely >disappointed by the Pitrelli and Stevens 'Tage departures. I'm hopeful that >their replacements will be at least similar in style and sound. > >Laterz... Matt T. > >NP: In Flames "Colony" -- ------ email_address_removed -------------- ++++++ ---------------------- ///// http://progmetal.gmsnet.com ----------------==== Unix systems - C/C++ video game engine development =><=============== Administration ===================== Intranet/Internet Engineering ================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:26:41 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: Dream Theater mailing list Subject: acos from last leg of 2000 tour Message-ID: I downloaded off of napster a mp3 of acos from the late 2000 tour, and the sound quality is iffy. Does anybody have the song, from Roseland, maritime hall or any other of the summer tour and can tell me where to get it? I would love to have it, as I remember it rocked when they played it at roseland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:33:05 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Damon Fibraio wrote: > I downloaded off of napster a mp3 of acos from the late 2000 tour, and > the sound quality is iffy. Does anybody have the song, from Roseland, > maritime hall or any other of the summer tour and can tell me where to > get it? I would love to have it, as I remember it rocked when they > played it at roseland There are people who have it at Roseland ("Please don't go!!!"), but I would wager that none of them are willing to give it up (a certain Boston- based bootleg website owner won't give it up to me no matter how much I promise him sexual favors) since it's without a doubt going on the DVD. Too bad, too; I REALLY want a boot of that song. :) ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Psychiatrists say that 1 out of 4 people are mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK, you're it. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 19:52:28 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: acos from last leg of 2000 tour Message-ID: OK, here's where I flip into sympathy mode. I am totally fucking blind here, people. Why am I going to own a DVD player? For the picture quality? I just want the song. Damnit. Hell, if they just release the audio from the DVDE, I would buy it, but they won't. I am not buying a dVD player to get half of the experience of one DVD. That's idiotic. At 07:46 PM 12/27/2000, you wrote: >On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Damon Fibraio wrote: > > > I downloaded off of napster a mp3 of acos from the late 2000 tour, and > > the sound quality is iffy. Does anybody have the song, from Roseland, > > maritime hall or any other of the summer tour and can tell me where to > > get it? I would love to have it, as I remember it rocked when they > > played it at roseland > >There are people who have it at Roseland ("Please don't go!!!"), but I >would wager that none of them are willing to give it up (a certain Boston- >based bootleg website owner won't give it up to me no matter how much I >promise him sexual favors) since it's without a doubt going on the DVD. > >Too bad, too; I REALLY want a boot of that song. :) > >------------------------------------------------- >Andrew Coutermarsh >email_address_removed >http://cout.dhs.org/ >Cloak on IRC >ICQ: 2513441 >------------------------------------------------- >Psychiatrists say that 1 out of 4 people are >mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK, >you're it. >------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:59:00 +1100 From: "Paul Tadday" To: Subject: The 'Tage Message-ID: <001b01c07069$5de464e0$bf4436cb@PaulTadday> I personally loved Hall Of The Mountain King from the first day that I heard it way back in '87. That album brings back some great teenage memories for me. Sirens and Dungeons I thought were pretty good too considering the years that they were released. Fight For The Rock and Power Of The Night were pretty average at best. Gutter Ballet was awesome, a return to the magic that I considered 'Tage to be reknowned for. Streets to me sucked the big one so bad that I completely lost interest after that, until of course I actually heard the title track of Edge Of Thorns... This band was re-born!! Handful Of Rain was a huge sounding disc too and even though Criss was gone and Jon was only just sort of hanging in there, I still loved the style that 'Tage was belting out. Dead Winter Dead... Absolutely awesome!! Wake Of Magellan... Holy cow!!!! But now... Hmmm... the jury is gonna be out for some time methinks. This band have progressed so much over the last 7 years or so that I have a feeling that this album may actually re-gress. I hope not but I'm not holding my breath either. To me it was Zakk that breathed fresh life into this band and so now the future of 'YTage is uncertain in my eyes. My 0.24 Aussie cents worth... Our dollar sure ain't worth much these days!! ;) Paul. > > "it's pretty much back to the Mountain > >King days." Hmmmm... > > Just as long as it's not "back to Fight for the Rock" days!!!! > > Trevor > ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5714 **************************