YTSEJAM Digest 5665 Today's Topics: 1) Re: Empire, and how about some DTC? by Brian Larkin 2) Anathema by email_address_removed 3) Pain of Salvation by "Joe DeAngelo" 4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5664 by Kurt M Hampton 5) Andrew's mom by CyberDuke 6) Flower Kings, Niacin by CyberDuke 7) refinancing, mortgage. etc 25412 by email_address_removed 8) Any jammers from Columbus? by email_address_removed 9) EVENT @ Club Fuel by email_address_removed 10) DT Classic Quicky by Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB 11) Saturday morning shredders by Dan Costello ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:55:15 -0500 From: Brian Larkin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Empire, and how about some DTC? Message-ID: >From: "Mariano Gil" >Subject: Empire > >Just a miscelanous question: does anyone know why the cover of Queensryche's >album "Empire" is so poor? The logo is plenty of ugly pixels. It's because Queensryche are a bunch of cumguzzling man-twats, as was evidenced this past summer. ;D DTC: How about some speculations on the next album? I know it's early for it, but let's have some fun and bring some good DT content back to the jam. What do you expect? What would you like to hear? Etc. One thing I know I'd love to hear is a bit more involvement from Jordan, as we all know he took kind of a back seat in the writing process for SFAM. And I'd love to hear him do backing vocals with the rest of the band as well (minus Myung, who can't even speak let alone sing ;). Another thing I'd love and I've always wanted to hear from DT is bigger-sounding orchestration (more guest musicians?) in the style of Angra or Trans-Siberian Orchestra. And of course it's always cool to explore new styles (as per the JP/JR acoustic show ... some of those ideas could have even been expanded for DT material, IMHO). I'm kind of excited to see how this one turns out also because the songs will have individual identities, and there will be more freedom with the lyrics and whatnot. I'd love to see a return to the older, better (IMO) level of DT lyric-writing ... the lyrics from I&W and Awake have been the most inspirational for me personally. So what do YOU think the guys will come up with this time around? Peace, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:08:17 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Anathema Message-ID: With all the talk of other "prog" bands, I thought I'd jump in to promote Anathema, which is a totally amazing band. OK, so they're not progmetal, it's more like a gothy version of classic Pink Floyd (Think Wish You Were Here era), but their last album, Judgement, is fucking awesome! Great composition, great performances, and just a really immersive atmosphere that conveys a lot of feeling. Highly reccomended-Unfortunately it's insanely hard to find since Anathema lost their US distribution right before this album came out. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:24:18 -0500 From: "Joe DeAngelo" To: Subject: Pain of Salvation Message-ID: <003d01c04944$24c3f640$message_id_removed> Brian Hansen said: > Check out "Entropy". They're prog metal in the vein of > Queensryche, Fates Warning and DT. The singer has a > pretty good range (tends to be lower than most > prog-metal), and sings with lots of "emotion" or > "emphasis" or "drama" or whatever the hell you want to > call it. But it's good drama, like Geoff Tate in the > early days. Pushing the boundry of drama without going > overboard. Actually it's "Entropia". ;) Brian, I agree with all you said, but just want to clarify for the folks who haven't heard PoS....... the great thing about PoS is that (unlike most prog-metal groups) they do NOT sound all that much like QR, Fates, or DT (they are definitely NOT clones!). Yeah, there is some influence there, but it's definitely not that huge. That being said, Brian is 100% correct in saying they are in the vein of those bands. It's also worth noting that Pain of Salvation has a moderately strong Faith No More influence. At least as far as their chaotic-nature, and (at times) Daniel Gildenlow's vocal delivery (they don't however, have FNM's kinda humorous/silly side). Alexis said: > To the person asking what Pain of Salvation sounds like, they sound very > unique Alexis, you've got that right! If I had to choose one word to describe the band, it was definitely be: UNIQUE. - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:37:05 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5664 Message-ID: How the HELL do they afford cd burners and computers? <(Korgx3)He hangs out over on the MikePortnoy.com forum these days, infecting a new crop of minds.> Actually that forum is incredible, I have developed a ton of trading and friendships there. FOr those who never go there I reccommend it. Mike doesn't even read these anymore I think. He said in an interview that he goes there to see what DT fans are talking about, and posts a lot himself. "titties and beer" Mike Portnoy 1987 rehersal video. Kurtx3 remebers Korgx3, Mike posting on the jam and a young JP wiggling his butt in front of the camera. Those were the days. ytsekurt on AOL instant messenger Trade page-www.geocities.com/Kurt_labrie/Startpage.html "Shut the f*ck up. Don't make me come down there and kick your f*cking ass" -James Labrie 4/16/97 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 18:32:19 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Andrew's mom Message-ID: > From: Andrew Coutermarsh > > Myself, I would have measured out the precise locations of my > couch, television, room depth, etc. to figure out where the perfect > spot to place the speakers and the perfect spot to sit would be. We're sure you would pal. ;) LOL, speaking about childhood traumas... > From: Luke Bateup > Subject: Some suggestions on these CDs please... > > Flower Kings - Alive On Planet Earth Great band, great stuff, go get it. :) > From: email_address_removed > > Let's try our best to keep this list strictly to Dream > Theater related matters. hehehe, watch out there's a banana skin in front of you. And errr ... welcome to Ytsejam? > Because again, I'm sure most of you care less about the things > that aren't related to Dream Theater type pissings. Hey kid, since when selling a proggresive rock or Dream Theater CD is not an Ytsejam topic? Oh mine, how foolish of me, of course, this was Pain of Salvation mailing list. > Why would they care about my opinion? Wasn't that whole post of yours an opinion about what you think the jam should be like? 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Please click here to be REMOVED and type Remove in the subject line ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:21:59 +0000 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Any jammers from Columbus? Message-ID: Hey dudes... Are there any jammers from Columbus... I need something you can only = get from=20 there (or so I think) and if someone could help me out, I=B4d be very= grateful. Thanks,=20 op777 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:52:18 EST From: email_address_removed To: email_address_removed Subject: EVENT @ Club Fuel Message-ID: Club Fuel Dec 1 2000 Lowell MA 8pm with Super Zero and Savannah 105 Market St. Lowell MA: Rt3 N to the Lowell connector. Thorndike St exit. At the 6th Light take a right. Up on the left after the second light. above the Blue Shamrock Hope to see you all there! Matt Scurfield EVENT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:21:51 -0000 From: Costello Daniel Civ AFRL/IFEB To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: DT Classic Quicky Message-ID: The local Top 40 classic rock station has a contest every day at lunch where they play short clips of three songs and the first caller to guess all songs correctly wins lunch. Today's 2nd song was Pull Me Under. :-) It's nice to see them play something other than boring crap. -Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:30:38 -0500 From: Dan Costello To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Saturday morning shredders Message-ID: >Was watching the show City Guys on NBC last Saturday >morning (yea - a 27 year old watching teen shows >). But the episode was about the guys forming a band. And >in the background of one of the shots they had several >band posters on the wall. Included was the cover from >Fates Warning 'Still Life' and another poster covered up >with the word 'Dream' showing - in Dream Theater font. > >Wonder if there is a prog fan on board that show? I was watching one of those teen shows probably about 2 years ago, and there was a guy on there (kinda like the Fonzy of the group) who was playing a Jackson guitar. And he was PLAYING it. (I could tell he wasn't faking it) Maybe it's the same show. -Dan. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5665 **************************