YTSEJAM Digest 5616 Today's Topics: 1) 99 Fanclub Disc/Pt. 3 by Paul Weiss 2) jjens by "Trevor Hoit" 3) Dream Theater sighting on The Onion by "Dominic H. Kallas" 4) Re: guitar recording. by Yan Gonzalez 5) re: guitar recording by Jim 6) Support Progressive Metal in the Metal Search 2000 by email_address_removed 7) Re: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion by Andrew Coutermarsh 8) Mesa Boogie 20/20 ... by Brian Larkin 9) Re:jjens by "Nissinen Tommi" 10) Re: Neil Evans, power amps... NDTC by "Neil Evans" 11) Live US radio interview with Hansi of Blind Guardian on September 22, 2000 by email_address_removed (Jason T. Breitweg) 12) DT concert shirts by "Souter, Jan-Michael" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss To: The Dance of Ytinrete Subject: 99 Fanclub Disc/Pt. 3 Message-ID: First of all, check your booklet again. Lyrics for Raise the Knife are there. Second, Bix Beiderbecke did not write Metropolis. Ferde Grofe (Grand Canyon Suite) did. See this link from the AMG: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=A135799 It was probably a suite with different sections and Bix only played one part of it. paul NP Stereolab: Mars Audiac Quintet ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul's Bimonthly Musical Quote: I'm no fucking buddhist but this is enlightenment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:11:38 -0700 From: "Trevor Hoit" To: Subject: jjens Message-ID: <001601c0232e$393c6120$message_id_removed> NP: Johansson-Holdsworth-Johansson - Heavy Machinery Just wanted to say I got this CD few days ago and it's very cool fusion stuff. I would recommend it to anyone caring for fusion, jazz rock music. If you like Jens, you might want to give these a try too: Baker, Ginger-Unseen Rain (w/ J. Johannson & Jonas Hellborg) Hellborg Group, Jonas-e (w/ A.& J. Johannson) Jansson, Benny-Flume Ride (w/ A. & J. Johannson) Johansson Brothers-s/t (they also have one called Sonic Winter that I can't find) Johansson, Jens-Fission (w/ A. Johansson & Shawn Lane) Johansson, Jens-Ten Seasons Johansson, Jens-The Last Viking Not to mention, Stratovarious and newer Mastermind cds... Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dominic H. Kallas" To: The ytsejam mailing list Subject: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion Message-ID: In regards to the sighting at http://www.onion.com/onion3633/scrabble_victory.html : Reading the story, it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Riedel is a DT fan. Ducking for cover, Dom :-P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:20:02 -0400 From: Yan Gonzalez To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: guitar recording. Message-ID: Hey there. First of all, I want to thank all the *extremely cool* answers of fellow jammers who took the time to give me some hints about recording. =) Long live to the Jam ! In a private mail, I answered Kev the looong story of recording a CD here. IN short, we have like only 20 bands at most that put out cds, and NONE of them have decent recordings. YOu know, new market, inexperienced "engineers" and "producers", with the result of bad takes, poor mixes...yadda yadda yadda. That's why we won't bother contacting the producers/engineers of those records. >From: "Kevin Hammer" >Asking how to record/produce is like asking how to play a guitar. It's not >a method, it's an art. Before you go back into the studio, find a >producer/engineer who has been involved in a recording that has a guitar >tone you'll like. He'll (or she'll) know how to get that sound for your >band too. My inbox is still open, so feel free to throw in your suggestions, or just to tell me how to relax before recording..=) Regarding Roseland... Nobody told me if there will be a VHS version ! Warm regards. _____________________________________ Yan Gonzalez Acosta Guitarrista Morgana http://www.mp3.com/morgana _____________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:54:21 -0500 From: Jim To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: guitar recording Message-ID: Time for my semi-annual de-lurk... Someone said: > >First of all w/ the miking of guitars, you know. I think the standard are >SM-57s, which we will use. How would you mike the amp to get the maximum >crunchyness (sp?), thickness and heaviness of the rythm guitars ? This one >is my main concern.=20 > >And for the solos ? First off, I am by no means an expert in this area, but I do have some experience as both a guitar tech, and a sound engineer, and have dabbled in the studio... The method of miking guitars I prefer is to start out as you said with an SM57, but if I can I use 2, here's what I like to do.. The details depend on the guitar players rig, but in a nutshell I like to to have 2 signals going to the board, one "dry", with no effects, and one "wet", with all the effects, overdrive, etc. This way you have some more control over the overall tone, and effects level. My preferred method is to split the signal from the guitar, one line straight to an amp, into a cabinet, and the other, through the effects into the amp, then into a cabinet. At this point I like to mike the lower speakers in the cabinet, taking the 57 just a couple inches off from being directly in front of the center of the speaker, at a 45 degree angle. I usually end up pointing it down, for 2 reasons, one, in a live setting this helps isolate any other "stage noise" from that mike, and along with it being the bottom speaker, seems to increase the low end. Different speakers have different characteristics, so experiment with mike placement until you get the sound you want. If you can't use the 2 cabinet set-up, a workable alternative is to simply split the signal before the effects, and sending the "dry" line straight to the board. The advantage of this method is that the signal is not colored by the amp and speaker, and can help you get a really nice "clean" tone. The main advantage of this method is control, by having a dry signal to play with you can overcome some of the negatives that having too much processing (i.e. compression, delays, overdrives, etc.) can cause. One of the main symptoms being a "thin" sounding guitar tone ..but of course, the main thing is the quality of the sound BEFORE it reaches the microphone, if you are miking a $25 10watt Kustom combo, with a $50 kay guitar plugged into it....well, you know what they say, you can't polish a turd... Just my 2 cents worth, hope it helps... Jim aka Roadie NP: Transcendence-The Meridian Project ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:17:47 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Support Progressive Metal in the Metal Search 2000 Message-ID: So far there is only one band that is Progressive Metal in the metal search 2000 contest. It seems that Metal Blade has gotten two death metal bands, and electronica band and a prog band so far as teh finalists (though more will be added). So if you want to come check out the unique prog band, Cea Serin, that is the finalist for the record deal with Metal Blade come on by the link below. They've only been together for 3 years and it's been all up hill. Every vote is appreciated as well. Seems the other band has been cheating with theirs (at least that is what the newsgroups say). thanks, Cea Serin Come Vote for Cea Serin at the Metal Search 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:48:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Dominic H. Kallas wrote: > In regards to the sighting at > http://www.onion.com/onion3633/scrabble_victory.html : > > Reading the story, it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Riedel is a DT fan. I thought it was rather funny, too, that the story is from Plymouth, NH, where I am from! :) (And NO, it's not me in the picture... I only WISH I had a Metropolis 2000 t-shirt. You can even check the pictures on my website if you doubt it's me :) ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:24:40 -0400 From: Brian Larkin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mesa Boogie 20/20 ... Message-ID: Of the Evans' Neil and Paul, the latter recommended to the former: >Consider spending another $100, and go for the Mesa Boogie 20/20 (it's >tube). I'll second that recommendation. I've had mine for about 6 months and am still as excited about how great it sounds as I was when I first played through it in April. And it's true, you have to have used both solid state and tube to appreciate how good tubes sound - this is my first rackmount power amp, and before this I was using the head of my Crate "Excalibur" GX-1200H for power. The difference has been incredible. Now maybe one day when the piggy bank is full I'll be able to afford some Mesa cabs to go along with it, lol! Peace, Brian ------------------------------ Date: 21 Sep 2000 06:31:00 +0300 From: "Nissinen Tommi" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:jjens Message-ID: Trevor Hoit (20.9.2000 21:33): > (they also have one called Sonic Winter that I can't find) I ordered it from Japan (I live in Finland) and it is excellent album. It= has our beloved Yngwie playing guitar in two (instrumental) tracks. The other= one of those instrumentals is called "Enigma Suite" and (IMO) it=B4s one of the= best instrumentals i=B4ve ever heard. I can recommend highly that album! -Tommi Nissinen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:26:32 -0700 From: "Neil Evans" To: Subject: Re: Neil Evans, power amps... NDTC Message-ID: <001f01c0239d$454d37e0$c5cbaec7@default> Paul, thanks for the recommendation. You mention that the Mesa power amp is plenty loud - can you still get cranking tones at low volume? (I live in an apartment). Anyone else have an opinion on the tube vs. solid state question for power amps? Frankly, I don't really understand the role of the power amp in creating the sound. It seems to me like the preamp does all the work as far as tone generation, and the power amp just delivers it to the speakers. I suppose it's this "delivery" that can make a big difference, but I don't have the experience to say how important it is. This, I'm sure, is obvious to anyone who sees my VooduValve plugged into the "power amp in" jack of my crappy combo amp :). Thanks again for the info, -Neil. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Sep 2000 14:43:46 +0200 From: email_address_removed (Jason T. Breitweg) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, teof@egroups.com, galleryofshadows@onelist.com, Subject: Live US radio interview with Hansi of Blind Guardian on September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Hi all, Sorry for sending this to many lists, I am sure people are capable of hitting the delete key if it shows up more than once in their mailboxes *grin*. Anyway check out the BG web page at www.blind-guardian.com in the September News section for all the info on a live radio interview Hansi is doing tomorrow with Dr. Metal. There are sure to be some new BG news and some crazy questions (as usual). Have fun. Jason -- Jason T. Breitweg E-Mail: email_address_removed WWW: http://www.blind-guardian.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:24:46 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: DT concert shirts Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC22E4@ISDCRE00> They sell the DT concert shirts (current SFAM tour and FII tour as well) on the official DT site.. I sure would love to be able to buy a "WDADU" concert shirt now though!! :) I have one from every tour but that one :( (Yes, I even have an ACOS t-shirt) JM > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Coutermarsh [SMTP:email_address_removed > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:59 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Dream Theater sighting on The Onion > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Dominic H. Kallas wrote: > > > In regards to the sighting at > > http://www.onion.com/onion3633/scrabble_victory.html : > > > > Reading the story, it doesn't surprise me that Mr. Riedel is a DT fan. > > I thought it was rather funny, too, that the story is from Plymouth, NH, > where I am from! :) (And NO, it's not me in the picture... I only WISH I > had a Metropolis 2000 t-shirt. You can even check the pictures on my > website if you doubt it's me :) > > ------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Coutermarsh > email_address_removed > http://cout.dhs.org/ > Cloak on IRC > ICQ: 2513441 > ------------------------------------------------- > The only stupid question is the one that is never > asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about > time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, > isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, > in fact, I was speeding?" > ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5616 **************************