YTSEJAM Digest 5612 Today's Topics: 1) Re: the setlist to die for :) by Adam Pye 2) Jon's Hammerjacks Anouncement by welihozkiy 3) Nuno Bettencourt Live in NY by "Alan Estrada" 4) Re: Kevin's solo stuff by "Joe DeAngelo" 5) "Choreographed" Dream Theater Shows by "Dominic H. Kallas" 6) Roseland DVD....?? by email_address_removed 7) Re: Roseland DVD....?? by Andrew Coutermarsh ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:09:44 -0400 From: Adam Pye To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: the setlist to die for :) Message-ID: Tim Willis said, for some reason: >I guess it's true then - art is dead. Not sure why you're saying this. Does art have to be stiff and robotic? Does art have to be the same every time its displayed? Does art have to be 100% planned out beforehand? Or can art be something more alive? Can it be something new each time? I guess you have an extremely limited view of art. Plus, Dream Theater is too damned good a group of musicians (IMO) to be tied down like that. Although they DO tie themselves down in their live shows these days (MUSICALLY speaking, of course... hehehehe). Adam _________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:25:31 +0200 From: welihozkiy To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jon's Hammerjacks Anouncement Message-ID: <39C277AB.29903B71@dust.de> > I heard a few weeks ago that there will be another > Hammerjacks. Then.....I was flipping through the > Baltimore City paper last night and saw a full page ad > for the new Hammerjacks to "open soon". Didn't see > any other details. Does this mean that the Baltimore > metropolitan area will once again be plastered with > Hammerjacks bumper stickers? Jon man that isn't funny -- I stood up at my desk here when I read that. Ha! Are you serious!? Oh the heavens shine down upon us. I can see it now 2 to 3 stops for bands.....Hammerjacks, 9:30, and Jaxx -- and all of us at each show....(fade into a daydream) sigh..... andy "-What about that Red Chinese radio chatter? -It's done. Here you go. -Done? That was a static filled, triple scrambled, microwave transmission between two soldiers talking in Mandarin Chinese. -Well, the Chinese were only using a simple polyphoneticly grouped twenty square digit key, transposed from booster verdonic form, with multiple nulls. I broke it with this. -A Drogen's Decoder Wheel? They put these into cereal boxes for kid! -Yeah, I found it in a box of, uh . . . Lucky Charms." Andy Welihozkiy 'Animation Droid' andy@dust.de Stardust Entertainment Filmproduktion GmbH & Co. KG Berliner Strasse 89 14467 Potsdam Germany Fon: +49 331 28 15 0 Fax: +49 331 28 15 111 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 23:47:57 GMT From: "Alan Estrada" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Nuno Bettencourt Live in NY Message-ID: from www.hotelasylum.com : September 15th 2000 - The Station at Warick, RI have announced that due to popular demand Mourning Widows will play another show there on Saturday October 28th. For information contact: The Station - 211 Cowesett Ave, West Warwick, Rhode Island. Tel: 401-823-4660 or on;line at www.thestationrocks.com Tickets available at tickets.com and also at Strawberries. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:58:55 -0400 From: "Joe DeAngelo" To: Subject: Re: Kevin's solo stuff Message-ID: <005701c0204a$d6577b20$message_id_removed> Rob said: > As for Kev's solo stuff, it's getting dull. The new CD is background music and nothing > more. I think Dead Air For Radios had some good tracks, most of which I had already > owned in demo form. It's not the style that's the problem, it's the songs. They just > aren't that interesting. I kinda agree about the new disc. It's fairly dull. But IMO Dead Air For Radios is a truly amazing disc! - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:46:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dominic H. Kallas" To: The ytsejam mailing list Subject: "Choreographed" Dream Theater Shows Message-ID: Hello everybody! I just thought that I'd weigh in on the topic about DT shows being choreographed. I'm not talking about people doing interpretative dance to DT (I prefer seeing that than to a wacked-out guy in a thong doing weird contortions with his body...), but rather the idea that the setlists and other onstage goings-on are too structured. For the music that DT does-musically challenging concept pieces consisting of many parts and details- it does make sense to me that they WOULD have a fixed setlist. There were stories to be told, parts to be played, events to occur- it's definitely not an improvisational situation. Sure, I would have liked to have a little more jamming here and there to loosen things up, but quite a few of the new parts and treatments that they had introduced in the live show actually DID improve upon 'Metropolis Part 2' (just consider the live version of "Through Her Eyes" if you heard it on tour or on an "audience recording." It's great.) Then again, since the quality of DT's _performances_ as well as compositions are so high, I shouldn't kvetch about what could have been... :-) It's good that someone on the list mentioned Queensryche's performances. While I now hold DT in higher esteem than QR because DT are so much better musicians (regardless of which keyboardist they use, though Jordan is by far the best one of the three) and have a far more solid body of work, Queensryche have impressed me by their performance skills. One of THE best shows that I've ever been to was Queensryche on the 'Promised Land' tour on July 16, 1995 (my 18th birthday!) It was more structured than DT's show at Roseland on August 30- there were actors, props, video screens, lights courtesy of Mr Howard Ungerleider (who made his reputation with Rush), and stellar performances from all 5 members of Queensryche (Geoff played the saxophone and keyboard as well as sang; Chris DeGarmo played piano as well as Guitar; the others, particularly Scott "SRock" Rockenfield [one of my favorite drummers], played well on their instruments) Yes, that show was a _major_ production that was scripted for _every_ second, but it was a first-class job by all involved. While it may be foolish for me to ask DT to prove themselves further after creating 'Metropolis Part 2' (and 'A Change of Seasons' and 'A Mind Beside Itself' and others) and then performing it live in its entirety on MULTIPLE occasions, I would find it interesting if Dream Theater did play a show where they just made up their setlist as they went along. But if they don't, it's cool as well. I've never been sorry for going to a DT show (even though it once almost put my Linear Algebra grade in jeopardy... :-P), and I don't think I ever will. Thanks for reading! Electronically, Dom NP: 'Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:24:56 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Roseland DVD....?? Message-ID: Wassuup!! Been in lurking mode for forever....(prolly since '98). Anyways, just wanted to inquire about the Roseland DVD....anyone know if they cracked the timecode bug and if it will be released on time, or at all?? I haven't seen any posts on the 'jam about it lately (nor on DT's and MP's site), so I got concerned. Private email me if this question is already outdated. :) Thanks! Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:09:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Roseland DVD....?? Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 email_address_removed wrote: > Wassuup!! Been in lurking mode for forever....(prolly since '98). > Anyways, just wanted to inquire about the Roseland DVD....anyone know > if they cracked the timecode bug and if it will be released on time, > or at all?? I haven't seen any posts on the 'jam about it lately (nor > on DT's and MP's site), so I got concerned. Private email me if this > question is already outdated. :) Thanks! According to Kevin Shirley's website (www.cavemanproductions.com): Dream Theater problems have all been worked out, thanks in no small part to the tireless efforts of Mr. Squeaky (aka Pat Thrall), New York's resident "best drinkin' buddy of the new millenium", so in Monday I begin in earnest to mix the show for the Xmas DVD release. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5612 **************************