YTSEJAM Digest 5528 Today's Topics: 1) Re: We All Need Some Light by "Rob Pociluk" 2) RE: Vanishing Cream by David Dixon 3) Feedback trick by Gerardo Carstensen 4) Guitar Feedback tricks by Gerardo Carstensen 5) Cartoons SUCK lately... by "Steven Zebrowski" 6) DT on top of their game by "Jan-Michael" 7) Re:McGuyver by email_address_removed 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 by email_address_removed 9) Re: The Hunger by email_address_removed 10) you can pick your friends, you can pick your meat... by Dan Costello 11) Re: FFOHLESSAH digest 5527 by mikel 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 by email_address_removed 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 by "Joe A." 14) KARR vs. KITT (hehe) by Phil Carter 15) Re: Sweden by "Matt Molite" 16) Re: Physical Genius by "Matt Molite" 17) Re: Sweden by "TheCowGod" 18) Re: ROFLMAO, a repost! by Kurt M Hampton 19) KITT by "Raivo Hool" 20) Art / Prog who cares ..?? by Mark Andrews 21) 80's nostalgia by "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" 22) Re: 80's nostalgia by Damon Fibraio 23) driving to metropolis by Joshua Rasiel 24) 104.3 by Joshua Rasiel 25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 by email_address_removed 26) Re: 104.3 by Damon Fibraio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:43:10 -0400 From: "Rob Pociluk" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: We All Need Some Light Message-ID:

Oddly enough, I actually prefer the alternate mix with Roine on vocals. That's not to say that the original with Neal on vocals isn't amazing because it is. But the emotion that Roine's voice adds and just the overall mix itself is more to my liking. WHAT A SONG!!! Rob ---- Begin Original Message ---- Sent: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: We All Need Some Light >Janne Jokitalo <email_address_removed> wrote: >>"Sasha C." wrote: >> no shit? thanx for enlightening me... >> I just ordered the damn album 5 days ago, and it'll take at least 3 weeks >> until I get the Transatlantic and my copy of Gordian Knot Interview Disc. >> So, I asked nicely if someone could post me the lyrics to We All Need Some >> Light... I downloaded an mp3 of the alternative mix (btw, there are no >> limited edition copies available anymore so don't preach how I'm stealing >> from the band by downloading mp3s) and I couldn't figure out what mr. Roine >> was singing half the time... that's it. >But, it's not Roine who sings on that one, it's a complete Neal tune, he sure as >hell sings it too =) Alternative mix? From the Limited Edition? 2nd disc, track 2? Hellooo?!? Unless Neal has a voice range like Daniel Gildenlow [Pain of Salvation], meaning that he can sing very low and very high that you'd think it's 2 different persons singing, I'm wrong... But I think I'm not... Roine is singing on the other version. NP: Al Di Meola - Kiss My Axe ---- End Original Message ----

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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:49:57 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: Vanishing Cream Message-ID: > Are the Hunger Houston natives? I only ask b/c they > seem to spend a lot of time here. Hm. That is correct - The Hunger are Houston natives. David Dixon MCSD, MCDBA, MCSE Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed -----Original Message----- ]From: Trent [mailto:email_address_removed Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Vanishing Cream > yeah yeah. vanishing cream is a real good song. i've > never heard > anything else by the hunger tho. wonder how they > are? hmmm.... i always > thought this song had an almost "progressive" (:D) > feel to it. ===== *Trent cyberized-- http://www.geocities.com/cybertrent __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:22:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerardo Carstensen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Feedback trick Message-ID: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:35:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerardo Carstensen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Guitar Feedback tricks Message-ID: Hi! Well, this is my first post here, so here it goes... 1st.- Does anyone knows some tips/tricks to control the guitar feedback to use it melodically? 2nd.- How can I get that special feedback that sounds by playing and letting sound a note in the guitar and the feedback starts to sound (like the one Petrucci gets in the HOB guitar solo? Any help will be appreciated! Gerardo C. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:23:39 -0400 From: "Steven Zebrowski" To: Subject: Cartoons SUCK lately... Message-ID: <000a01bfe224$d5278420$0400010a@steve> > Dude, it was K.A.R.R.! And just as K.I.T.T. was an acronym > for something, so was K.A.R.R. Does anyone besides me > remember? (I have no life.) > > K.I.T.T. - Knight Industries Two Thousand Impressive. > K.A.R.R. - Knight Automated Roving Robot Most impressive. > (The voice of KITT was supplied by the guy that played Mr. Feeney > (sp?) on Boy Meets World.) Yes, although he was known at the time as "That mean doctor on St. Elsewhere whose name I can't remember." The voice of KARR was supplied by a guy named Peter Cullen, who the TRUE NERDS know as the guy who did the voice of Optimus Prime on "The Transformers" (series and movie) as well as Commander Hawkins on Voltron (Not the one with the 5 stupid lions, but the one with the 15 cool little car/ships). Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:26:02 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" To: Subject: DT on top of their game Message-ID: <001201bfe229$c573cb60$540b88cf@jammer> Ahhh... Dream Theater are in top form on this tour. They've never been better. They've never been tighter as a band. GO SEE THIS TOUR !!!!!!!!!!!! Drive to a different state if you have to... go out of your way... make it happen !! Jan-Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:42:34 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:McGuyver Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/00 6:35:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << Since 80's nostalgia has swept over the jam like a large broom, I know this may sem gay to you guys, but was anyone here into MAcgyver. About 8th grade I discovered the reruns, and I was addicted to it till I had seen each one 4 times. >> Don't thank McGuyer, thank the moon's gravitational pull! -mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:43:43 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/00 6:35:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << >Hockey aside, Sweden is more known for good massages and tall, blonde, >leggy women. Don't forget Swedish Meatballs! And Swedish Fish!!! >> And what about the Swedish bikini team? -mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:13:14 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: The Hunger Message-ID: I'm suprised so many people have commented on The Hunger, I didn't know they were *that* popular........then again, this is a Dream Theater mailing list... I've only got Devil Thumbs A Ride, so I couldn't judge any other albums. I know Devil has a kind of light side to it. I wouldn't really say that the singer sounds like Hetfield, more like Dexter Holland from the Offspring now that I think of it. They are very keyboard based, but the guitarist has a killer tone and he's really not that bad. Great phrasing for his solos. I hardly listen to the cd, but when I read the post questioning them, I dug it out and listened to "Vanishing Cream", (now I've got "When The Water Breaks" CRANKED)....I love these Labtec's.... Cheers, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:36:29 -0400 From: Dan Costello To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: you can pick your friends, you can pick your meat... Message-ID: > HAHAHAHA That reminds me of: > "Shrimp: The OTHER semi-translucent meat." Salmon: the other pink meat. Speaking of David Hasslehoff, I was at a custom car show last year and some guy had a ?firebird? tricked out to look like K.I.T.T. It was kinda neat, and kinda sad at the same time. >> I like sounding pretentious. That way, people know that I'm better >> than they are. :-) > > Dan, is it OK with you if I use this quote every, say, four hours or > so? :) Be my guest! We are the elite, my good friend, and it's about damn time we got the recognition we deserve!!! :-) >Indication #2 of weak writing: One of the main character's > names is "Topanga." Who cares, as long as she's on there?!? :-) > Picasso had his parents and hung around Brach. Bach > was practically born into his position, as was Frank Lloyd > Wright, and as that article stated, Wayne Gretzky, they pretty > much knew what they wanted to focus on, they had > some tie to their vocations from the very start. Actually, from what I've read, Frank Lloyd Wright's stuff is crap. It looks nice, but the structural integrity is just shit. The house with the waterfall has an unsupported concrete balcony that Wright refused to put any / enough steel reenforcing rods in the concrete. Well, the thing almost fell in the river. When he designed the Gugenheim, he didn't allow for the construction materials to expand and contract with temperature changes, so now the place is falling apart. My grandmother was a real estate near albany and sold a house (or new someone who sold it) designed by one of his students. The roof collapsed when it was 4 years old. -Dan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I like sounding pretentious, that way people know that I'm better than they are" - Dan Costello ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:01:56 +1000 From: mikel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: FFOHLESSAH digest 5527 Message-ID: Yer and its really bad. Any metal version must include that shredding little bit at the start (the diddlydiddlydiddlydit bit) for it to be worth its salt, but they just left it out. BTW. Joe Satriani mentioned the MI theme song, which he supposedly wrote, on his web site and said that it definately wasnt him. I think the Napster version isnt DT either. There was also an article on SonicNet talking about a country version of a snoop dogg song called Gin & Juice, which was credited to Phish. I remember d/l that ages ago, and apparantly they've only find out recently. Napster also said that they knew of no other occurances of mislabeled songs. > I think you'e referring to the Limp Bizkit version of the MI theme on that > soundtrack? Tool isn't on there. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:55:52 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 Message-ID: In a message dated 00-06-29 18:51:21 EDT, you write: << I know this may sem gay to you guys, but was anyone here into MAcgyver. >> You have NO idea how into MacGyver I was. It's probably my favorite TV show of all time. The score to it, especially in the later years, was awesome. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:58:43 -0500 From: "Joe A." To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 Message-ID: <000901bfe247$7d451ce0$message_id_removed> >> yeah yeah. vanishing cream is a real good song. i've never heard >> anything else by the hunger tho. wonder how they are? hmmm.... i always >> thought this song had an almost "progressive" (:D) feel to it. >The Hunger are more "industrial" than "progressive", but since those two >words don't seem to mean much anymore, I'll try to explain better... :) No, I think they are more of a "butt rock" type sound. --The Almost Silent Man ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:58:48 -0400 From: Phil Carter To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse Subject: KARR vs. KITT (hehe) Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids.... Mike C. wrote: >Hey, remember "Carr"??? He was the evil version of Kitt!!! That's KARR. "Knight Automated Roving Robot". KITT stood for "Knight Industries Two Thousand", by the way. :) /me used to watch a lot of Knight Rider growing up...canya tell? Ytsejammers in Atlanta, swing by Dragon*Con this weekend and Pellaz and I'll see you there. :) cheers, Phil ================================================ Phil Carter -- email_address_removed http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/~artoo "Without music, life is a journey through a desert." -- Pat Conroy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:39:01 -0400 From: "Matt Molite" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: > > >Hockey aside, Sweden is more known for good massages and tall, blonde, > >leggy women. > > Don't forget Swedish Meatballs! And Swedish Fish!!! > > > -and the Tom Green song Sweedish(Bum Bum Song) Don't forget Yngwie Malmsteen :-) Matt ============================= Now you've got your voice Your own speech Don't wait 'till Someone else agrees -Rafael Bittencourt, Angra ============================= Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com Get your 100MB FREE Internet storage! Sign up now - www.netdrive.com/?O=ZZN4 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:49:44 -0400 From: "Matt Molite" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Physical Genius Message-ID: Very cool article, and as Chris said, it does touch upon many of the same topics books such as "The Art of Practicing" and "The Inner Game of Music" do. I've always felt that anyone can basically teach themselves to do anything given the proper mindset, and this just shows it. The human body is capable of learning anything as long as you practice doing it. The mental side, however, is probably what keeps a lot of people from reaching their full potential either as quickly as they could with a proper mindset, or never reaching it at all, and I think very few people can enter this mindset with ease (even a guy like Petrucci has talked about overcoming difficulties in the mental/mindset side of practice). Anyway, my 2 cents being deposited (and it being 2 AM) I'm gonna go to sleep. Matt ============================= Now you've got your voice Your own speech Don't wait 'till Someone else agrees -Rafael Bittencourt, Angra ============================= Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com Get your 100MB FREE Internet storage! Sign up now - www.netdrive.com/?O=ZZN4 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:05:41 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" To: Subject: Re: Sweden Message-ID: <005901bfe261$9b2dd340$d02f2ac4@mukau> > Don't forget Yngwie Malmsteen :-) oh i thought we were talking about GOOD things to come out of sweden. moo. *** END OF TRANSMISSION *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:21:13 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ROFLMAO, a repost! Message-ID: Thanks, I think Korg's sense of humor is starting to wear off on me. I went to Soulfly tonight. I am hurting, my chest is all banged up from being pushed into the barricade, but that's metal!! And whats a concert with a buxom blonde squishing her boobs into your back. Kurt ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:12:44 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" To: Subject: KITT Message-ID: <000b01bfe262$968da1c0$0201a8c0@internal> ]From: Trent > I never understood why Michael always insist on > driving on when he had to drive KITT on long road > trips. Had it been me, I would've told KITT to drive Hehe. I never understood how such a technologically advanced car could understand voice control when ordered "scan the neighbourhood area for suspicious schmucks" and then proceed doing exactly that, and still have to be operated manually for relatively simple "Turbo Boos" command that we all were always anxiously waiting for. :-) Ah, but maybe Turbo Boost was just so appalling to KITT that it wouldn't do it without hard coded forcing... :-) Raivo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:21:29 +0100 From: Mark Andrews To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Art / Prog who cares ..?? Message-ID: > Music is music is music... it doesn't matter whether it's art rock, prog > rock, indie rock, acid fusion rock or Brighton Rock. > Pigeon Holes are the creation of lazy, jaundiced journo's who haven't the > imagination to think for themselves and so play follow-the-leader. Here in > the UK Prog rock is about as popular as Hepatitis B ( although you're > twice as likely to hear Hepatitis mentioned on national radio ), and as > sure as night follows day, a crap review follows a concept LP. > Now there's a strange thing - the amount of reviews I've read for bands > such as Marillion, DT etc where I'm almost 100% positive that > the reviewer hasn't actually listened to the CD. > It's as if they look at the cover, see the band name, and, viola, they've > already formed a pre-conceived opinion of the music. > Show me a review of a DT LP in the UK and I'll show you the words '...self > indulgent...', '...overlong...', '...guitar-w*nking...' > and so on. > I don't know what it's like the US, but here in the UK there is virtually > zero media coverage for any music that even remotely strays > outside the confines of the top 40. > > Please pity us !! > > Fatz > > > > > -------------------- DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Itronix (UK) Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this mail is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:06:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 80's nostalgia Message-ID: >Since 80's nostalgia has swept over the jam like a >large broom, I know >this may sem gay to you guys, but was >anyone here into MAcgyver. About >8th grade I discovered the reruns, and >I was addicted to it till I had >seen each one 4 times. I used to love >the dukes of Hazzard, I had the >figures and the car. :) >Umm...CHIPS was cool, Kinght rider was >ok, I used to watch it sometimes >as a young lad. -Yeah, well I watched the CHiPs, Both Dukes of Hazzard, and Knight Rider 2000 reuinions shows. I have no life! -Koggie _____________________________________________________________ This email originated from http://www.ytsejam.com - Free email_address_removed email addresses, 6MB of Storage and no limit on file attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:42:58 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: 80's nostalgia Message-ID: OK, here we go. let's get sick. I watched Night Rider, and the dukes of Hazard as well, but does anybody remember the Incredible Hulk TV series or cartoon? Hell, I am so sick, I still ready the damn comic book. Talk about geeky. maybe that's why I am into prog music. I also loved Transformers, gobots, voltron, g.i. joe, and who knows what else. TV just is not what it used to be. Power Rangers?Man Voltron would have kicked the shit out of those copycats. hell, I think the Transformers on their own could've taken the Power Rangers. Pokeymon? How the fuck do you even spell that stupid cartoon's name? Really dumb. Gay. Stupid. Give me the cartoon network anyday. At 09:12 AM 6/30/00, you wrote: > >Since 80's nostalgia has swept over the jam like a >large broom, I know > >this may sem gay to you guys, but was >anyone here into > MAcgyver. About > >8th grade I discovered the reruns, and >I was addicted to > it till I had > >seen each one 4 times. I used to love >the dukes of > Hazzard, I had the > >figures and the car. :) > >Umm...CHIPS was cool, Kinght rider was >ok, I used to > watch it sometimes > >as a young lad. > >-Yeah, well I watched the CHiPs, Both Dukes of Hazzard, and Knight Rider >2000 reuinions shows. I have no life! > >-Koggie > >_____________________________________________________________ >This email originated from http://www.ytsejam.com - Free >email_address_removed email addresses, 6MB of Storage and no limit on file >attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:02:26 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: driving to metropolis Message-ID: >Lately, I dislike anyone that's got a driver's license. Now that I >started commuting every day on the infamous LIE, I've almost bought it >about five times. So dig it: The cool part of the met1 solo was on, right as I came off the entrance ramp to the Palisades Parkway. You just can't not go fast for that part, so I stabbed third and went. wheee! Right by a state trooper. Everything happened in slow motion then, like the scene in the beginning of The Doors where young jim is watching as his car drives by the indians. It was also a little bit like when that couple drive by the murder scene in Fargo. I was busted and I knew it. but my exit was just ahead! And right off my exit was a real quick turn-off and I coulda lost the cop and still technically have been going home except that some MOOOOOOORRRRONNNNNNN was taking the exit ramp at the breakneck speed of a bigwheel. The cop had plenty of time to u-turn, merge, speed up, pass the cars between us, and so by the time I got off the exit ramp and onto that quick turn, he was close enough to have seen me make the turn. He wasn't even behind me, even then. that's how easy it would have been and I wouldn't have had to speed(well....continue speeding...) to pull it off. So of course like all NY troopers he was a hard-ass and I had to prove that I lived in that area so he wouldn't give me an evasion ticket or whatever it would be, in addition to the speeding in a workzone that no work was being done in. >(The voice of KITT was supplied by the guy that played Mr. Feeney > (sp?) on Boy Meets World.) I believe he was also on St. Elsewhere, (what a great show) and on that show I saw him raise his eyebrow once, so I practiced until I could do it too. How's that, punks? Thank You! Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:09:50 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 104.3 Message-ID: >In the winter of '93 or '94 or so, NYC got a new radion station. >104.3 WAXQ ("Q 104.3"). Holy crap. All heavy music, mostly newer. >DT, Skid Row, Metallica, Guns N Roses, etc. Amazing. grrrrrr! I remember the day they went soft and krock was the only station you could hear anything remotely heavy on. But they do sometimes play One or Justice For All, in between Howard Stern shows. josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:25:18 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5527 Message-ID: Template of genius=Roger Waters He's pretty high up, too, depending on how you look at it. > Are the guys in Dream Theater geniuses? Or are they a group of musicians who > love what they do and do what it takes to excel, whatever that may be? > Did I just define genius? > How high is up? > Where does up get his shit? I think the guys from DT are geniuses, well, at least MP, for, like he said, choosing a Canadian Fabio look-alike to bring them better press exposure and be able to get them out of the style thing without sacrificing their sex appeal... (Hey look at the inside cover of WDADU, I don't think even Poison was trying THAT hard) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:39:13 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: 104.3 Message-ID: I remember those days. Actually q104 went downhill long before they changed to classic rock. Around 1996 or so, if not sooner, maybe more like 1995. but, man, it was good while it lasted. I remember hearing Lie on that station long before I knew who DT was. Rush was everywhere and I fucking loved it. God, I miss those days. At 10:32 AM 6/30/00, you wrote: > >In the winter of '93 or '94 or so, NYC got a new radion station. > >104.3 WAXQ ("Q 104.3"). Holy crap. All heavy music, mostly newer. > >DT, Skid Row, Metallica, Guns N Roses, etc. Amazing. > >grrrrrr! I remember the day they went soft and krock was the only >station you could hear anything remotely heavy on. > >But they do sometimes play One or Justice For All, in between Howard >Stern shows. > >josh ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5528 **************************