YTSEJAM Digest 5440 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5439 by Waseem 2) Recommendation? by Peter Geerts 3) Last post by Peter Geerts 4) angra by Waseem 5) exotic prog by Waseem 6) Re: angra by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 7) Angra's guitar player by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 8) LDT - I&W blunders by "Fran Brennan" 9) The Dark Chapter by Oddvar Lovaas 10) Re: Last post by Coldfire The Gallery Mistress 11) Some usefull information on CDs & CDRs by "Al @ Switchcraft" 12) Names, more names and yet more names by email_address_removed 13) Copy of complaint (Bug report) I sent Netscape by "Al @ Switchcraft" 14) Awake comments/other stuff by Kurt M Hampton 15) Scarred Records URL has changed / MP3 from 5DiaL posted by Ryan Whitaker 16) Re: LDT - I&W blunders by Brad Plumb 17) RE: angra guitarrist by "Wifreddy Chiang" 18) Importante by "Salvatore Maisano" 19) Re: Recommendation? by Joel Timmins 20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5439 by "M P" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:06:47 -0700 From: Waseem To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5439 Message-ID: Howabout the theme to The Transformers >(robots in disguise) The original, or the cover version by (Lion?) from the movie WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now thats the best suggestion anyone has posted!! c'mon...those tunes were made just for dream theater...and is it just me...or was "when dream and day unite" sound like it was just made for transformers the movie?! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:25:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts To: YML Subject: Recommendation? Message-ID: Hey guys, I need some help as to which CD to buy next. I'm considering these: Some disc by After Forever. Gordian Knot (they have only one album right?) Explorer's Club Help! Next question. Yesterday, I listened to a new Magna Carta disc. I don't remember exactly but I think the band's name was Out Of The Ashes or something like that. Anyway, it was pretty straight progmetal with Neal Morsesque vocals. I didn't see it listed at www.magnacarta.net, so I was wonderng if anyone knows what I'm talking about. Finally: In the computer of my record store, it says that Tyranny has been released on Roadrunner (and is quite expensive for that reason). I've always thought it was released on Magna Carta, just like Carved in Stone. That's also what it says on MC's website. SOOOO.... what's up with this? Thanks Peter -- |Peter Geerts ICQ:13122363 (weekend) "...And for an encore, Man | |email_address_removed proved that black is white | |email_address_removed and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:28:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts To: YML Subject: Last post Message-ID: Ok, completely screwed up in my last post. The band I was reffering to was not Out Of The Ashes (dunno where I got that), but Under The Sun, and is listed on MC's website. Anyone gave them a serious listen? Peter -- |Peter Geerts ICQ:13122363 (weekend) "...And for an encore, Man | |email_address_removed proved that black is white | |email_address_removed and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:35:15 -0700 From: Waseem To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: angra Message-ID: hello! just got the angra "holy land" cd- it RULZ!!! i just wanted to know which one of the 2 guitarists play most of the lead guitar... ITS NOT AS GOOD AS PETRUCCI, but still pretty impressive :) any answer (preferably the right one) would be much appreciated. thanks! this is true....ANGRA does rule soooo much emotion in this band i recommend holy land and fireworks... and check out the tune Carolina IV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:41:02 -0700 From: Waseem To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: exotic prog Message-ID: i was wondering if there is any one out there who can post a list of exotic prog in tunes. what i mean by that is for example; a song like bombay vindaloo or like symphony x's "lady of the snow. maybe "home", stratovarius' "babylon", steve vai's "bankok" etc. anything out of the ordinary with eastern scales. that would be wicked. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:47:12 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: angra Message-ID: Waseem wrote: > hello! just got the angra "holy land" cd- it RULZ!!! i > just > wanted to know which one of the 2 guitarists play most of the lead > guitar... > ITS NOT AS GOOD AS PETRUCCI, but still pretty impressive :) any answer > (preferably the right one) would be much appreciated. thanks! > > I forgot his name, but its the one that DOESNT play the lespaul. Im sure someone will get this fast (i dont have my angra cd's), anyways, i think that dude is at least as good as JP, he just has a different style. I think i heard that he was a very revered guitarrist in brazil or was ir portugal? (i suck i know, early mornings are not good for me ) -- Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home Itīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:50:03 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: Ytsejam Mailing List Subject: Angra's guitar player Message-ID: The one who does all the leads is Kiko Loureiro... Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 05:58:09 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: LDT - I&W blunders Message-ID: Hudson Music doesn't seem to appreciate good quality, and judging from yo= ur story, whoever they trusted with the distribution is not doing a very = good job. With such fantastic content you'd think they would deliver it o= n decent tapes. Maybe LDT will become available on DVD? When I bought I&W, I took it home and popped it into my CD player, and I was greeted with bad 70's glam metal. I thought to myself "wow, they've sure changed a lot since then", until the singer started screeching the words to "Back in Black". CD said "Images and Words" on it, but it was AC/DC. So I took it back and got a real copy of I&W. A year and a half later, when my freind was getting into Dream Theater, he went to the same store and bought I&W, and the exact same thing happened to him, 'cept that was the only copy they had, so he had to trade it in for Dave Matthews or something...weird, eh? -Fran np: Disco Biscuits - Sven Gali.mp3 (LEGAL!) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:56:51 +0200 From: Oddvar Lovaas To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The Dark Chapter Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000422145651.00774e98@online.no> >P.S. Regarding the "Drum Machine" used on the CD. It isn't nearly as bad as I >had been warned. It's tastefully mixed in with keys and plenty of effects. The >result is a very delicious CD of instrumental neo-classical prog. If you love >Symphony X and can deal with the fact that the awesome drums are created by a > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:12:19 -0400 From: Coldfire The Gallery Mistress To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Last post Message-ID: Peter Geerts wrote: > > Ok, completely screwed up in my last post. The band I was reffering to was > not Out Of The Ashes (dunno where I got that), but Under The Sun, and is > listed on MC's website. Anyone gave them a serious listen? > > Peter > Yeah. the Under The Sun CD is really good. I hear more of a progressive rock slant to it though, maybe it's just my ears. As for Roadrunner and Shadow Gallery, I think Roadrunner handles the distribution in Europe. Coldie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:00:44 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Some usefull information on CDs & CDRs Message-ID: Compact Disc Errors by Bob Starrett http://www.cdpage.com All compact discs have errors on them. Some of them have a lot of errors. Even with the errors, however, you can still read a CD accurately. Why? Because CDs use Error Detection Code and Error Correction Code (EDC/ECC) to correct these errors as the CD is played (audio) or accessed (data). Two categories of errors occur on compact discs: logical errors and physical errors. Logical errors are errors in the structure of the user data and control data on the disc. Physical errors are actual microscopic physical artifacts on the disc produced during the production or recording process, or defects introduced after production, like scratches or foreign materials on the surface of the disc. Whenever we talk about disc quality, we are talking about the interaction of the disc with the mechanism that it is being played on. The performance or error rate of a CD can only be measured by reading the disc; therefore, the performance of a particular disc is a combination of the disc and the mechanism used to read it. Disc errors are not absolute; they are a reflection of how well the disc works with the drive it is being accessed on. Audio CDs use an error correction code called Cross Interleaved Reed Solomon Code or CIRC. An audio CD does not need as much error correction as a data CD-ROM because an incorrect bit in an audio stream will not be heard, while an incorrect bit in a computer program could crash the program (or the computer). When an audio CD player encounters an error that it cannot correct, it just skips 1/75th of a second, and you are unlikely to hear any difference. Many errors. however, will make the audio sound bad. These errors can be caused by scratches or dirt on the disc, or can be a result of a poorly manufactured or recorded disc. A CD-ROM disc uses additional error detection and correction code on top of CIRC. This code is called Error Detection Code/Error Correction Code (EDC/ECC). When a CD-ROM drive has trouble reading a sector correctly (and it knows this because the EDC tells it so), the ECC can usually correct that error by calculating the correct value of what is being read. It does this by using other data on the disc that exists for the specific purpose of correcting errors. CIRC applies two levels of error correction, called known C1 and C2. C1 corrects small, random errors. C2 corrects large errors and burst errors. Six "E" errors arise from these two levels of correction: E11, E21, E31, E12, E22, and E32. E11, E21 and E31 errors occur at the first stage of error correction, C1. An E11 error means that one bad byte was corrected at the C1 level, E21 means two bad bytes were corrected there, and E31 means that three or more errors were corrected at C1. The first number in an "E" error is always references the number of errors and the second number always references the decoder level, in this case, C1, or Level 1. In Level 2 or C2 of error correction, E12 means that one bad byte was corrected at decoder level C2, E22 means two bad bytes corrected and E32 means that three or more bad bytes were passed to the Level 2 correction but were not corrected. E32 errors are uncorrectable, and are not acceptable on a CD-ROM disc. An uncorrectable error in a computer program can cause the program to crash, and if a disc containing such errors is used as a master for factory replication, the equipment at the mastering facility will abort when it sees the uncorrectable error. The mastering must then be redone, resulting in additional costs and delays in the replication job. Compact discs are composed of pits and lands that a CD-ROM drive or CD audio player reads and interprets to retrieve data or play audio. Many people believe, incorrectly, that the pits and lands represent the 1s and 0s that are ultimately interpreted as data or music. In reality, it is the transition between a pit and a land that represents a 0 or a 1. Pits have different lengths and an ideal shape. Variations in the shape of the pits and variation in the lengths of the pits can cause physical errors. Variations in the lengths and shapes of the pits on a CD are called pit length deviation and pit geometry, respectively. Pit length deviation means what it says. A pits on a CD needs to be one of nine different lengths. These are referred to as "T" lengths and are T3, T4, T5, T6, T7, T8, T9, T10 and T11. When a pit is not of the specified length for its class, errors can occur on the disc. For example, a T3 pit that is a little too long may be interpreted by the read laser as a T4 pit. This, of course throws everything off and causes errors. Likewise, a T11 pit that is too short might be interpreted as a T10 pit, again causing errors on the disc. Pit geometry generally refers to the shape of a pit, not its length. If you think of a pit as a small mesa, there is an ideal slope that should exist at each end of the pit. If this slope is out of specification, you have poor pit geometry and this, too, can cause errors on a disc. When you hear about disc errors, you usually hear about Block Error Rate, or BLER. BLER measures how many errors occur in a given time period while the disc is playing, usually an average over a ten-second time span. Some of the factors that can contribute to an unacceptable BLER are jitter, dropout, eccentricity, birefringence, reflectivity, and poor push-pull tracking. Numerous other factors also can cause the physical errors that make a disc perform poorly, or become unreadable altogether. .sometimes, when you think about it late at night, you wonder that the whole thing works at all! -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:14:59 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Names, more names and yet more names Message-ID: >P.S. Do other countries in North America (or South America, for that matter) think >it's weird that people in the United States sometimes refer to themselves as >"Americans"? Yes, many people do take offense, but what else could you call (seriously, people, wise-asses need not apply, wait, I'm fired?) people from the United States of America? There is no other adjective form to use. Here in the U.S., people usually identify themselves by state, as in "I am from Wisconsin" or whatever, but on the global stage that doesn't work. By the way, if you want arrogant, pick a nit with the usage of the definite article in "The United States of America." As if there weren't any other states in America...perhaps a better name for our country would be "The United States of Central North America" -- that good enough for you? That way Mexico could be "The United States of Southern North America" instead of "The United States of Mexico." I mean hell, why do they only get Mexico while we get all of America? Canada could be "The United Provinces of Northern North America." Or maybe people could not get so hung up over names... Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:14:59 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: Anchor Sarslow Subject: Copy of complaint (Bug report) I sent Netscape Message-ID: If computer security concerns you at all, READ THIS!!! Message to Netscape: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------- It would appear that this version of Communicator (4.72) is storing ALL s= ent and received data from the mail client. (This would explain the reduced time when empt= ying the trash folder) Though hidden from the user, the file sizes reflect all incoming = and outgoing mail including file attachments are stored within their respective folders. Wh= at's up with this??? Please tell me it's a bug. I'd hate to think that Netscape come up with a= sneaky way for our mail information to be viewed by government or law enforcement agency= investigators. All information from the time of installation could be retrieved by compe= tent computer geeks if this is true. I would really like a detailed explanation for thi= s. I have verified my findings with several other skilled users. I found it quite i= nteresting that my "Inbox" file folder grew 7 megs (the exact size of a received MP3 file) right after r= eceiving, deleting and emptying the trash. I also cleared Netscape's memory and hard disk ca= che. Multiple re-boots later after running Scandisk & Defrag, the inbox (and all other = mail folders) file sizes remained the same. 39+ megs! That=92s awful large for empty folder= s. Hmm=85 Even if the reason for this is a little less sinister, with the amount of= data that I exchange in a year, I=92ll have to dedicate a larger hard disk partition just to s= tore my mail folders.. (!!! Insert obligatory sarcasm alert here !!!) The file names I'm referring to are: Inbox & Sent. Located in the netscape/users/username /mail directory. Versions previous to 4.72 did not exhibit this behavior= Why the change? PS: This is NOT a Windows Millennium issue. I know of four other users th= at have the same problem under Win95 osr2, Win98, and Win98SE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------- END It certainly makes me wonder.. -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:45:28 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Awake comments/other stuff Message-ID: Yo yo yo, Everyone always talks about how IAW is THE Dt album, but more and more poeple seem to like awake better. Personally I like Awake because its so heavy, but IAW has some great ones on it too. Whats a boy to do? LOL I think DT should either get the Awake team to produce the next album or keep self producing. I think the record company has finally realized DT will sell if they just let them be, and let them make the music the way they want it, which is the way it should be for every band. Kurt NP-DT St Louis Met2k (UAGM) "At least study the language before you talk to me" -James Labrie Tokyo Japan 1995 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:57:04 -0500 From: Ryan Whitaker To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Scarred Records URL has changed / MP3 from 5DiaL posted Message-ID: Hi all, The old server's domain has officially changed hands, thus ending my old site's ability to redirect to the new address. So I thought I'd make the switch official now. Scarred Records' new URL is: http://scarred.dyn.ns1.net Also, I just posted a soundclip from the elusive "5 Days in a Livetime" disc. If you don't know already, it's a collaboration of mine with Scott Hansen and Bogie that covers the five DT holiday shows from December '98. Take care everybody, Ryan Whitaker Scarred Records http://scarred.dyn.ns1.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:06:22 +0000 From: Brad Plumb To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: LDT - I&W blunders Message-ID: >When I bought I&W, I took it home and popped it into my CD player, and I was >greeted with bad 70's glam metal. I thought to myself "wow, they've sure >changed a lot since then", until the singer started screeching the words to >"Back in Black". CD said "Images and Words" on it, but it was AC/DC. So I >took it back and got a real copy of I&W. A year and a half later, when my >freind was getting into Dream Theater, he went to the same store and bought >I&W, and the exact same thing happened to him, 'cept that was the only copy >they had, so he had to trade it in for Dave Matthews or something...weird, >eh? > It wasn't just Hudson Music, it was the record company. This is a pretty legendary blunder in the annals of DT history. ;) Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "There is nothing more pragmatic than idealism" -David Mamet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:40:19 -0400 From: "Wifreddy Chiang" To: Subject: RE: angra guitarrist Message-ID: The guy that plays most of the solos and lead guitars is Kiko Loureiro. Cause in the Angel's Cry booklet, they credit the guitars solos in between songs, and most of them, (and the best ones) are played by him. One hell of a guitarrist I might add. He studied classical music along Angra's singer, Andre Matos. Will ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ "Being laughed at and confused, keeps us pleasantly amused enough to stay." 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Message-ID: >Some disc by After Forever. >Gordian Knot (they have only one album right?) >Explorer's Club I haven't heard the other two, but I like the Gordian Knot CD quite a bit. It's not like DT, but it's very cool instrumental heavy fusion stuff. I'm not very good at describing music, though. ;) Joel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:31:41 EST From: "M P" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5439 Message-ID: >From: email_address_removed >Subject: LA Show?/Prog Rock boxset >Second: I'm auctioning a really cool box set on eBay (auction # 313556046). >It's the Supernatural Fairy Tales box while still stuck on the HTML-bugging zzn.net, I tried to describe this one. With a massive sampling of many of the bigger and smaller names in old-school prog, this is probably the best sampler out there. From Rhino records. -D/JAJUID >From: "T.D. Smith" >Subject: RE: Grieg, payouts, and other sundry topics >Oh man, you haven't heard Grieg until you've heard his Piano Concerto (Am >Op. 16). did a rock arrangement of the first movement, mostly in 7/8 // 15/8. It's pretty interesting too. the midi for it might be floating about somewhere, but we doubt anyone would want to download the 100+meg wav file ;) - DAJ/JAJUID ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5440 **************************