YTSEJAM Digest 5436 Today's Topics: 1) Extended periods of 4/4 time by mikel 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435 by "Jason Gelnett" 3) Re: Good Luck.... by NuGgeTMaN 4) anybody get the Dregs at HOB? NDTC by "Wade A. Caudle" 5) Re: sarcasm / Frank Brennan by "Pye, Adam" 6) Whining (was Re: YTSEJAM digest 5434) by email_address_removed 7) Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433) by email_address_removed 8) Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433) by Brian D Hayden 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435 by "D. Frantz" 10) re: good luck.... by "Fran Brennan" 11) Wouldn't it be nice if... by email_address_removed 12) Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album by email_address_removed 13) Tony Levin on track 7 of LTE2 by "Awake ." 14) Re: mindcrime by email_address_removed 15) Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album by Brad Plumb 16) Needed: band demos by "Tony De Laender" 17) Belgian/Dutch jammers, I need some help !!! by "Tony De Laender" 18) "Through Her Eyes" single by "Joe DeAngelo" 19) help? please? by "Sasha C." 20) ISO: "Falling Into A Change of Awake"!! by Adam Pye 21) longest consecutive 12/5 by David Dixon 22) Re: John petrucci mistakes by "chahram riazi" 23) Re: WDADU time sigs by =?iso-8859-1?Q?PETER_LIDSTR=D6M?= 24) Cool, it's Transatlantic/Classic Rock mag by "Charlie Farrell" 25) Lacuna Coil by "Charlie Farrell" 26) Lines In The Sand by "A_Change Of_Seasons" 27) Re: Home by Brian Larkin 28) RE: Extended periods of 4/4 time by "T.D. Smith" 29) Fantasy Orchestra? by Totikus 30) Re: Fantasy Orchestra? by "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:38:32 +1000 From: mikel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Extended periods of 4/4 time Message-ID: Out of the songs i know I think PMU gets a bit funny around the time when JP does that fast lick, but apart from that Id say its all 4/4. Another Day is all 4/4. Under a Glass Moon is 4/4 except for the solo and a bit after the chorus. Afterlife is all 4/4. As someone said a lot of WDADU sounds mostly 4/4 but I havent got through it yet. Plus a lot of stuff on FII is, like Hollow Years and I think Burning my Soul. I was wondering if they did a whole song in only one odd time sig. I know Surrounded comes close but it switches between 9/8 and 4/4. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:42:30 -0700 From: "Jason Gelnett" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435 Message-ID: Im serious here. Even if people don't think that this is what they think, they do. It's hard to believe that someone used this in a sentance. It's even harder to believe that it makes sence to me????????????????? Jason : ) np: Toad the Wet Sprocket / chicken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:51:52 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Good Luck.... Message-ID: Just a quick guess off the top of my head, and no research...I'd have to say "Through Her Eyes" or "Another Day" whichever is a longer song. email_address_removed wrote: > > Dream Theater is known for their elusive style and limitless > compositions. This also includes a vast array of time signatures. So my > question to all you hardcore jammers who like a good challenge, just like me, > is what is the longest consecutive period of time on a DT album that is > played in 4/4 time? (This doesn't include LTE or any other side projects) > Give the song names and track times the 4/4 time signature occurs during. > . Remember > consecutive time..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:51:10 -0500 From: "Wade A. Caudle" To: Subject: anybody get the Dregs at HOB? NDTC Message-ID: <000201bfa94f$1ea05dc0$faee0cd1@slash> Did anybody get a copy of the high-speed video or sound from the HOB show. Unfortunately, I live in one of the most non-technologically-advanced areas in the country, so I don't have access to such wonderful gadgets as broadband. Wade 6PackLiquoor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:57:41 -0500 From: "Pye, Adam" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Re: sarcasm / Frank Brennan Message-ID: > np: Widespread Panic - Wish You Were Here.mp3 (perfectly legal, since WsP > aren't a bunch of greedy corporate pawns....) Woohoo! Another Panic fan on the 'Jam. That makes three that I know of now (including myself). Is that the awesome Wish You Were Here from the recent Huntsville show (which I was at, I might add)? :) You'll never see Panic pulling a Naptallica... Adam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 2000 09:43:22 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Whining (was Re: YTSEJAM digest 5434) Message-ID: Okay...I'm new heren (in fact, this is my first post), but I have to wonder how this guy puts up with the odor in the place where he's obviously stuck his head??? > But then again, judging from the > tame, all-nerd crowd I observed at the 9:30 club show in February Hmm...I was at that show. Never considered myself tame. Nerd? Maybe; I AM here talking to people in my computer about a band because I have no "real" friends to discuss DT or prog rock with. Guess that qualifies. >It's like you guys need to put down other bands to prove DT is worth > listening to. Well, here I am, obviously a Metallica fan, sticking my neck out in this group of Metallica-haters, and you don't see me whining about those who don't agree with my musical tastes. > And by the way, in terms of both musicianship AND showmanship, the Dixie Dregs > blew Dream Theater away that night Probably the only good point this guy has made...but for me it was because I EXPECTED Dream Theater to rock, which they did, and therefore they "met expectations." I had no idea what to expect from the Dregs, so I was pleasantly surprised by their outstanding performance - a tough act to follow. Don't know if I'd say "blew Dream Theater away" though. They were just both excellent in their own ways. Even the Star People were entertaining, in an endearing, retarded younger sister kind of way. I kept picturing the cast from 3rd Rock doing Priceline commercials with William Shatner... > Dream Theater just turns up the volume so loud that you can't hear James screech > out of key or hear how many notes Petrucci misses during the really fast stuff. > Once in a Livetime makes that glaringly obvious - once the volume is low, DT just > doesn't do it nearly as well live as they do in the stuido. Has anyone else heard about this cool invention? I think they call them ear plugs or something...they're supposed to make loud things quiet, I think. True, James screeches and misses the really high & loud stuff in live shows. But the volume doesn't hide that. And if Petrucci misses a note or two...well, I play guitar, and if I could hit 1,234,458 notes out of 1,234,460 notes per evening, I'd be pretty damned proud of myself. Who am I to be critical of any performer? To me, the fact that they have the guts to go out there and TRY something as ambitious as SFAM live is impressive in and of itself. > Enough from me. I'm outta here. Thank God. I will sleep better tonight. -El Mariachi "I'm the little boy who pushes hard and makes 'em cry." ______________________________________________________________________ Check out Metallica's Official Web Site at http://www.metallica.com For 200+ channel 24/7 commercial free music visit http://radio.www.com ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 2000 09:52:00 -0700 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433) Message-ID: >> 1 - your language makes you sound more intelligent, I promise...hahaha >the fact ?that a person occasionally peppers their speech with some traditional >invective has about zero correlation with their brainpower, as far as I'm >concerned. I wish I could remember who said the following (I think it's either from Remo Williams, some Japanese philosopher, or from the original Kung Fu series) "Profanity is the feeble effort of a weak mind to express itself forcefully." Not that I practice this bullshit...it just sounds good. -El Mariachi "See the black cloud overhead? That's me." ______________________________________________________________________ Check out Metallica's Official Web Site at http://www.metallica.com For 200+ channel 24/7 commercial free music visit http://radio.www.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:02:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian D Hayden To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Foul mouth (was Re: ytsejam digest 5433) Message-ID: "Pithy homilies are the feeble effort of a weak mind to sound like it has something more than a single lonely marble of original thought rattling around." ;D -Brian On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 email_address_removed wrote: > > >> 1 - your language makes you sound more intelligent, I promise...hahaha > > >the fact > ?that a person occasionally peppers their speech with some traditional > >invective has about zero correlation with their brainpower, as far as I'm > >concerned. > > I wish I could remember who said the following (I think it's either from Remo Williams, some Japanese philosopher, or from the original Kung Fu series) > > "Profanity is the feeble effort of a weak mind to express itself forcefully." > > Not that I practice this bullshit...it just sounds good. > > > -El Mariachi > "See the black cloud overhead? That's me." > ______________________________________________________________________ > Check out Metallica's Official Web Site at http://www.metallica.com > For 200+ channel 24/7 commercial free music visit http://radio.www.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:19:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "D. Frantz" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5435 Message-ID: >Dream Theater - Streams of Consciousness" 2CD $40 (originally $50) >Original painted disc Mike Bahr bootleg. Color liners. >In excellent condition. still waitin for this gem to show up.....$50 well spent On another note, does anyone know where I could get a copy of the 1st Chicago show on the Infinity tour, Nov. 1 I believe. Please e-mail me privately if have info, thanx! --Derek ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:04:55 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: good luck.... Message-ID: I think you guys are looking at the wrong albums. While Home is pretty long (that's so far a total of around 18 minutes of straight 4/4 if you consider Through Her Eyes into Home right towards the ending), isn't MOST of WDADU in 4/4? Granted, Ytse Jam isn't, but most of the other songs are, if I'm not mistaken. Go back and listen to WDADU. There's A LOT of odd time stuff on there...you may be right about the songs near the end, as I don't listen to those much, but there's a lot more odd time stuff on there than I originally thought. It's just written very well, so it doesn't sound odd...I love those 4/4-12/8 transitions on OAMOT...uh, yea.. -Fran np: The Slip - From the Gecko (now, you want some utterly BIZARRE rhythmic goings-on, check these guys out!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:03:03 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Wouldn't it be nice if... Message-ID: Dan Temmesfield actually wrote a post now and then to the jam instead of constantly spamming it with cds for sale? I know he actually has something to say (occasionally, at least on the old King's X list), but this is getting ridiculous. I do like the fact that people are taking my nick in vain around here lately ;-) NP: Steel Prophet - Messiah Kevin, who laughs at the poor Kings fans, and pities the poor Blues fans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:20:32 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album Message-ID: In a message dated 4/18/00 11:12:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << I think you guys are looking at the wrong albums. While Home is pretty long (that's so far a total of around 18 minutes of straight 4/4 if you consider Through Her Eyes into Home right towards the ending), isn't MOST of WDADU in 4/4? Granted, Ytse Jam isn't, but most of the other songs are, if I'm not mistaken. >> Yeah Home is in 7/8 in some of parts of the outro and 19/16 as well. But WDADU has a flurry of time meters all throughout just like any DT album, but 'Afterlife' comes close to being in common time except for a couple measures of 5/4. I'm wondering if the 'Lines In the Sand-Take Away My Pain-Just Let Me Breathe-Anna Lee' combination makes for a long streak of 4/4 maybe even longer than 'THE-Home', we'll see, or maybe even 'Lie-LSOAD-Scarred' ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 2000 21:00:26 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tony Levin on track 7 of LTE2 Message-ID: I'm a doughnut, I've forgotten the name of the song (Liquid Dreams?)...Anyway, is *that* a Chapman Stick? I figured it was, because it has that weird sort of squelchy sound to it. But I was messing around on a Yamaha RBX (four string with humbuckers) striaght into an amp, and it had exactly the same squelch factor. So I should be asking: what is that squelch sound if not the stick? Me like! I'm seriously planning on lowering myself by an octave and a half, so I'm curious about these things. I was going to get a Yamaha BB (or a Rickenbacker 4001 if my Bank Manager's a friendly Chris Squire fan too) G5, because I hate the way they look. So can I get that sound from any bass? What the hell is it (not an effect, 'cos this was stright into the amp). ~Simon p.s. I suddenly realised: it's been about 2 months since I had any idea where the cover of my copy of SFaM is...:( Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:00:56 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: mindcrime Message-ID: Boy, do I feel like an idiot. I guess it's just me. In a message dated 4/18/00 5:11:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, email_address_removed writes: > > > > Really, I got the story in about an hour with the CD blaring and the > lyric sheet in front of me. > Peace, > Barry > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:28:48 +0000 From: Brad Plumb To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Longest Consecutive 4/4 Time on DT Album Message-ID: >Yeah Home is in 7/8 in some of parts of the outro and 19/16 as well. But >WDADU has a flurry of time meters all throughout just like any DT album, but >'Afterlife' comes close to being in common time except for a couple measures >of 5/4. I'm wondering if the 'Lines In the Sand-Take Away My Pain-Just Let >Me Breathe-Anna Lee' combination makes for a long streak of 4/4 maybe even >longer than 'THE-Home', we'll see, or maybe even 'Lie-LSOAD-Scarred' Lie and LSOAD maybe... I think both have some non 4 parts that sneak in there, Scarred is only in 4 in the intro, I believe. Man I can't believe I'm actually joining in this discussion ;) Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "There is nothing more pragmatic than idealism" -David Mamet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:22:50 +0200 From: "Tony De Laender" To: Subject: Needed: band demos Message-ID: Hi all, I'm starting a new prog-magazine for Belgium/The Netherlands and one of our features will be reviews of demos from beginning (or not so beginning) prog acts. If you're interested in getting yours reviewed in one of the next issues, please contact me, and I'll mail you the snail addy where you can send the goods, as well as a rundown of the information we'll need about the band. Looking forward to hearing from you. Proggy greets, Tony De Laender Editor, Progeny Magazine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:32:54 +0200 From: "Tony De Laender" To: Subject: Belgian/Dutch jammers, I need some help !!! Message-ID: Hi, Sorry to waste bandwidth again, but I'm looking for BE/NL jammers who know addresses where I would be able to sell a new prog-magazine. Preferably smaller/specialised record stores. Anyway, email me, I need addresses, phone numbers, fax numbers, emails, anything to get me in touch will do. Thanks in advance. Proggy greets, Tony De Laender Editor, Progeny Magazine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:06:14 -0400 From: "Joe DeAngelo" To: Subject: "Through Her Eyes" single Message-ID: <007701bfa982$5061e9e0$message_id_removed> Could somebody refresh my memory on what the difference is between the Japanese and European versions of the "Through Her Eyes" single. CDNOW has the German version, and I can't remember if I should hold out for the Japanese....... Thanks, - Joe DeAngelo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:37:34 +0200 From: "Sasha C." To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: help? please? Message-ID: <000701bfa986$b3aaf2e0$eded1dc3@sasha> hi! okay..someone posted some info on mIRC channels and when I realized how much great rare stuff can be found using that piece of software i installed it... and i've spent whole damn evening trying to figure out how to actually DOWNLOAD files. But I didn't get it... I asked questions on help channels but no-one asnwered. So, if there's a jammer who's into this kind of stuff and who would be willing to enlighten a mIRC newbie, I'm all ears... please... I know how to search for something but i don't know how to download it when i get the results... sorry for a non-dt-related topic guys... thanx in advance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:43:29 -0400 From: Adam Pye To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ISO: "Falling Into A Change of Awake"!! Message-ID: Hey folks.. I'm looking for an MP3 of the "Falling Into a Change of Awake" medley played on the recent European leg of the tour. If anyone can help me out with this medley, or an entire Euro tour show, please reply via private email. I'll be getting some of these shows on CD in awhile, but I'm anxious to hear that medley. :) If someone helps me out I'll post what I get on Lines in the Sand for everyone to grab. Thanks! Adam _________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:37:15 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: longest consecutive 12/5 Message-ID: > I'm wondering if the 'Lines In the Sand-Take Away My Pain-Just Let > Me Breathe-Anna Lee' combination makes for a long streak of 4/4 maybe even > longer than 'THE-Home', we'll see, or maybe even 'Lie-LSOAD-Scarred' JLMB is NOT all 4/4 - there's some crazy stuff going on in there... :) David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:01:29 GMT From: "chahram riazi" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: John petrucci mistakes Message-ID: Well, I don't really know if it is a mistake but in the 5 years in a livetime video, during the intro of Metropolis it seems that John Petrucci's finger slips on the strings at one time and his guitar makes that strange noise. Also another funny moment is when Mike hits the mike stand during To Live Forever and five minutes later the stand is miraculously back where it was. The 5YIAL video is amazing, I notice new things everytime I watch it! If anybody on this list doesn't have it yet, I say go get it! --Chahram Insert unusually large signature file here: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:23:18 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?PETER_LIDSTR=D6M?= To: Subject: Re: WDADU time sigs Message-ID: <001001bfa995$76cb00e0$566497d4@amd> Andrew coutermarsh wrote : I think you guys are looking at the wrong albums. While Home is pretty long (that's so far a total of around 18 minutes of straight 4/4 if you consider Through Her Eyes into Home right towards the ending), isn't MOST of WDADU in 4/4? Granted, Ytse Jam isn't, but most of the other songs are, if I'm not mistaken. Uhhh ... hehe ... Mostly in 4/4 ? Someone better go back and listen to it, methinks ... ***************************************** Peter Lidstrom Lead guitar player in SAHARA (sweden) www.geocities.com/winkken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:51:48 +0100 From: "Charlie Farrell" To: Subject: Cool, it's Transatlantic/Classic Rock mag Message-ID: <00b501bfa99c$96b686c0$a587bc3e@pbvpu> Mr Borland wrote > Got my Transatlantic special edition CD today. I can honestly say > that this is the most beautifully packaged CD I have ever seen. It > was well worth the delays and the wait - the packaging is >GORGEOUS. I have to agree - it's very nice indeed. Up on a par with the Digibook versions of 'Far Off Grace' and Luca Turilli's solo effort. These digibooks are a huge improvement on the digipack or dodgypack which seem to start falling apart after a month or so. > The latest edition of Classic Rock magazine here in the UK has an > enormous five-page feature on Transatlantic, together with a fantastic > review of the album (full 5 stars) and We All Need Some Light on > the cover CD. You should all buy this magazine immediately. I agree - its by far the best english language rock mag at the moment. Q and suchlike are full of indie stuff and Kerrapppppp! and Metal Hamster are obsessed with the likes of Slipknot and Kittie. Unfortunately the Classic Rock cover CD has been polluted with a Slipknot track (a problem of being part of the same production house as Metal Hamster - cross marketing sucks!) http://www.futurenet.com/futureonline/magazines/issue.asp?div=3&id=85&iss=13 This months (Issue 14) contains: - 6 pages on the making of 'Masters of Puppets' - 4 pages on Steely Dan - 5 pages on SMPTe/Transatlantic - 6 pages on Jimmy Page/The Black Crowes - 8 pages on Jimmy page (part 2 of an interview) - 1 page on a beginner's guide to Alan Holdsworth - 3 pages of David Geffen - 23 pages of book/disk/gig reviews + news and a cover CD containing Deep Purple, Hendrix, Dio, Malmsteen, Jadis, BJH, Transatlantic etc Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:38:01 +0100 From: "Charlie Farrell" To: Subject: Lacuna Coil Message-ID: <00b601bfa99c$9804b1a0$a587bc3e@pbvpu> Lacuna Coil have been playing the UK and Ireland over the last few days following the release of their new (and rather excellent) new EP - Halflife. They played an excellent set on Saturday to a few hundred souls here in London on Saturday night and impressed the hell out of me (and Ashley as well, I think). Christina Scabbia's voice was phenomenal - every bit as good as on disk and she begins to rival Anneke (The Gathering) in my affections. The set was quite short by todays standards (about 1hr 15mins including encores) but very heavy and I can honestly say that the band gave their all, so if you are a fan of 'Mandylion-period' The Gathering, give them a listen. I much prefer Lacuna's new stuff to some of the dreary stuff on 'How to measure a Planet' Their website can be found at http://lightning.prohosting.com/~lacuna/ Unfortunately I think that 'Halflife' EP only has a European release at present. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:46:47 CDT From: "A_Change Of_Seasons" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Lines In The Sand Message-ID: Hey Jammers... Someone mentioned Lines In The Sand being in 4/4 all the way thru... I have to disagree as I can hear a strong 6/4 in some parts. Space Dye Vest gets my vote for being longest in 4/4... I haven't heard about any odd times in there.... poj ****************************** "Seize the day!", I heard him say. "Life will not always be this way. Look around. Hear the sounds. Cherish your life, while you're still around!" ****************************** A Change Of Seasons -- By Dream Theater ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:05:31 -0400 From: Brian Larkin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Home Message-ID: >> "Home" is all in 4/4, isn't it? I haven't checked, but I'd say >> it's probably >> THE~~>Home.... >> Fran > >Nope, Home has a bit in 7/8 if I remember correctly, around the 11 minute >mark. Let's not forget my favorite sig of all time: 19/16! Which also appears somewhere within the chaos that is "The Dance of Eternity". I'm immature. ~Brian NP: The sound of my foot tapping in 19/16. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:29:11 +0100 From: "T.D. Smith" To: Subject: RE: Extended periods of 4/4 time Message-ID: > Under a Glass Moon is 4/4 except > for the solo and a bit after the chorus. The verse is in 6/4 > someone said a lot of WDADU sounds > mostly 4/4 but I havent got through it yet. Plus a lot of stuff Light Fuse and Get Away, TOWHTSTS has loads of alternates > on FII is, like Hollow Years and I think > Burning my Soul. > I was wondering if they did a whole song in only one odd time > sig. I know Surrounded comes close > but it switches between 9/8 and 4/4. It depends how you split the bars. I could say a piece was in 7/4 when it was really, alternating 4/4 and 3/4, whether that's still "odd" is a mater of opinion. ======================================================= In a world which your mind controls, belief is reality. email_address_removed - 1491970 - http://www.tdsmith.org ======================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:26:45 +0200 From: Totikus To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Fantasy Orchestra? Message-ID: Nightmare Cinema is now presumably over since Derek left and Jordan AFAIK doesn't play guitar. However, do you think they might reincarnate it (hey, the spirit carries on) in another form? The line-up could be: Jordan Rudess - vocals Mike Portnoy - guitar John Petrucci - bass John Myung - keys James LaBrie - drums We know James played drums for 10+ years so he could do the drums, freeing up the vocalist spot for Jordan, who presumably only plays keyboards. Petrucci would go from one stringed instrument to the other and Portnoy can probably tackle guitar. That leaves just Myung in the same spot as with NC, but all others are changed. What do you think? Totikus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:49:56 +0200 From: "Michael Pruchnicki (DE)" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Re: Fantasy Orchestra? Message-ID: > We know James played drums for 10+ years so he could do the drums, freeing > up the vocalist spot for Jordan, who presumably only plays keyboards. Jordan plays guitar, too. He also sang on his solo album "Listen". > Portnoy can probably tackle guitar. Yup. > That leaves just Myung in the same spot as with NC, Myung should play the violin! :)) - Mike ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5436 **************************