YTSEJAM Digest 5435 Today's Topics: 1) That MP3 IRC channel by email_address_removed 2) Re: Cool, it's Transatlantic by "Rob Pociluk" 3) re: Naptallica/MP3/corporate music by Brian Hansen 4) RE: Missing notes and turning up by email_address_removed 5) Not much hope for me? by Oddvar Lovaas 6) re: MP3/corporate music by Trent 7) Savatage and shit... by "Steven Zebrowski" 8) Re: John Petrucci's ErnieBall Signature Model..... by email_address_removed 9) sarcasm by "Fran Brennan" 10) Tattooed snobs by Pam Nazer 11) why i love prog by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 12) Re: "Home" time sigs... by email_address_removed 13) Re: "Home" time sigs... by Andrew Coutermarsh 14) Musicians need money by mikel 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5434 by Kurt M Hampton 16) funny thing.... (M. Romeo, Tolkki, Britney and Christina A. by O-P Komonen 17) Re: Naptallica by Jens Johansson 18) mindcrime by email_address_removed 19) We are not snobs!!! by email_address_removed 20) Things to do in San Diego? by "Pye, Adam" 21) FS: DT "Burning My Soul" promo by Dan Temmesfeld 22) FS: Savatage, Shadow Gallery, Tori, FNM, Flesh, Ed Roland by Dan Temmesfeld 23) FS: DT "Streams of Consciousness" 2CD by Dan Temmesfeld 24) CDR Comparison Link? by "Scott Sturdivant" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:31:51 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: That MP3 IRC channel Message-ID: To whomever posted that info, THANKS! I was able to download some of the more rare stuff I was looking for. NP: Conception - Parallel Minds (live) Mp3 ;-) Kevin, who is waiting for the Bucks-Magic game to start in an hour... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:54:10 -0400 From: "Rob Pociluk" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Cool, it's Transatlantic Message-ID: I have to agree with Graham. I got my copy of the import and it's an amazing package! I have only heard "All Of The Above" thus far. I'm thinking this will be an all-time favorite CD for me. Right up my alley. Amazing! Rob ---- Begin Original Message ---- ]From: Graham Borland Sent: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 03:08:55 -0700 (PDT) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Cool, it's Transatlantic Got my Transatlantic special edition CD today. I can honestly say that this is the most beautifully packaged CD I have ever seen. It was well worth the delays and the wait - the packaging is GORGEOUS. The latest edition of Classic Rock magazine here in the UK has an enormous five-page feature on Transatlantic, together with a fantastic review of the album (full 5 stars) and We All Need Some Light on the cover CD. You should all buy this magazine immediately. We All Need Some Light is the only song I've heard so far (I got the magazine the day before the album arrived), and it's really good. I'm quite happy. -- Graham Borland =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Picsel Technologies Ltd email_address_removed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Glasgow, Scotland ---- End Original Message ---- Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your 100MB FREE Internet storage! Sign up now - http://www.netdrive.com/?ao=3Dzzn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: Naptallica/MP3/corporate music Message-ID: Greg Kristianson wrote: > CD technology is around 20 years old now, why do we > continually pay more for this tecnology? Because that is what the > greedy me-monkeys high atop Mount Time/Warner/AOL decree. Those in Europe by > and large have always paid close to double what we have paid in North > America for recorded music. As opposed to bringing the prices down in Europe, > the industry raises prices in North America to reflect the European market... > And yes, the artist still sees a whopping two cents per > unit sold! I'd love to see MP3 piracy bring the music industry to it's > knees, forcing the industry fat cats to re-evaluate their practise of > blatantly screwing not only the artists they supposedly represent, but also the > consumer that lays down way too much of his/her hard earned cash for > their product. Come on, aren't you being hard on those big companies? Huge companies have a lot of people on the payroll, and you gotta pay them. (How is AOL/Time-Warner going to get themselves out of the huge hole they're in now that stock prices have dropped? They gotta raise prices, just you wait.) Plus they have to spend a lot of money to push the music that THEY want you to buy. That's not cheap. Why should the bands get any of that money? They're just insignificant cogs in the big machine. They can be replaced in a second by five boys hanging out on a backstreet... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:02:32 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: Missing notes and turning up Message-ID: In Response to Bill's post: Yeah, that was a pretty damn funny post. I sat in front of Petrucci the ENTIRE Feb 26th show, DIRECTLY in front of him, and saw him hit a wrong chord ONCE. (He was about to sing, I think it may have been "The Spirit Carries On", but I can't really remember the song), he was playing on octave, and he played a D# instead of a D, which he quickly changed, as Jordan looked at him, shaking his head and smiling. That was the ONLY mistake JP made the entire show. I didn't hear any from the rest of the band either. And I had NO problem hearing James in any way. I'd like to see you jump up on stage, grab JP's guitar and play at his volume, without even FEAR of making a mistake, nevermind making a mistake. And out of the countless times I've listened to Once In A Livetime, I haven't really heard any mistakes......care to point them out for me? Warm Regards.. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:02:43 +0200 From: Oddvar Lovaas To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Not much hope for me? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000418020243.00762bd0@online.no> >The now dearly departed poster goes on to make an empassioned plea for >tolerance while damning all D&D players, and ever member of the Ytsejam, as >having no lives. How poetic. Oh no, with me being both a D&D player and member of the 'jam, how much hope (if any) do I have? I'll just go on being doubledamned. Oh well. Btw; I picked up Superior's Younique for $7,5 today!!:) < flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://home.sol.no/~flail - ICQ: 3253879 > "Working with John is like taking a shower. It's something you do." - John Petrucci about Myung ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:10:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: MP3/corporate music Message-ID: Ya know, I remember reading about a year and half or two years ago that Rod Stewart was releasing a new CD that basically filled up all available time on a CD (or most of it; 76 minutes or something like that). His record label wanted to charge extra for his CD since it was an "extended play" CD. Those greedy motherfuckers. It's cheaper now than it ever has been to record on CDs, but the prices just keep going up. I think I'll hold on to my mp3s, thank you. ===== *Trent "I cannot stop the thought of running in the dark. Coming up a which way sign. All good truants must decide. stripped and sold mom. An auctioned forearm and whiskers in the sink. Truants move on, cannot stay long. Some die just to live..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:53:02 -0400 From: "Steven Zebrowski" To: Subject: Savatage and shit... Message-ID: <001001bfa8d8$d5bb7de0$0200010a@steve> > > > ps, with Pitrelli now a full-time member of Megadeth, what does > > > that say about Savatage? They wouldn't be the same without him. > > > > Well, they put out quite a few quality discs before Al came around, and I'm > > sure they'll continue to do so now that he's gone. > > Yeah, i mean ..i dont think he wrote anything on the sava discs, since all is > written by Jon and paul oneill (sp?) right? Yeah, I knew that, but I just like the overall, aural SOUND better with Al. His solos kick so much ass. I love his bends - very expressive. And he can pick like a muthafucka, too. > Now, i would stop listening to sava if Zak left, and jon took over vocals > again, b/c personally i cant stand Jon's vocals for a whole album, now that ive > been spoiled by Zak's.. odd huh? Not so odd, I don't think. Jon's voice got on my nerves before Zak. I definitely prefer Zak to Jon, and for that matter, to all those no-talents on the TSO CD's. (Why the hell couldn't Zak have sung Beethoven on the new CD? He'd have been a hundredfold better than that guy - my LEAST favorite TSO singer!) > What a mistake it was to join this discussion group! I've never met such a group > of musical snobs in all my life. I signed up with the intent to read about Dream > Theater and maybe pick up some other prog rock info - instead all I read is > bitching and moaning about how everything that is not progressive sucks (read the > last or any other digest to see what I mean!). You guys need to take Dream > Theater's advice and open your minds a little. That's funny - I read the last digest and all it was was complaining about Napster, or complaining about complaining about Napster, and how much Metallica sucks. No mention al all of how "everything that is not progressive sucks." Whether or not our minds are open is not important; this guy needs to close his MOUTH. > I agree that it's silly to hold Napster liable for its customers' > abuses of its product. If they hadn't invented the software, someone > else would have. Then whomever invented it would be just as responsible. The bottom line is that Napster created the software; Napster made it available for certain activities, whther lega or illegal; and Napster continues to provide the service knowing full well that it's primary use is the unlawful trading and distribution of copywritten material. > * Napster is not evil. YES IT IS!!!!! :) > > should just pay the $13 for the CD, WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR CD'S?!?! > > Wal*Mart if you want popular, mainstream CD's (Rush, Tull); Circuit City > if you want something a little more obscure (DT, LTE, jazz stuff) My li'l > bro' got me both LTE albums for xmas cuz they were so cheap! Best Buy often has TONS of stuff for $12 or $13. Ever tried to buy a CLASSICAL new release? (No, not that crap on the Naxos label...) They're hardly ever on sale, and they regular price is usually AT LEAST $17. Deutsche Grammophon is the best label for vocal classical music, but I once paid $21 for ONE CD from them. Steve Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:07:50 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: John Petrucci's ErnieBall Signature Model..... Message-ID: Ok, for anyone who has been alive in the past 6 months, we all know that John left Ibanez and is now with Ernie Ball Music Man. I've kind of been a pain in the ass to Rena, and eventually ended up getting an e-mail a "JP Rep", but I have some specs on the upcoming sig. John Petrucci's Ernie Ball signature model is currently in the prototype stage. It is scheduled to debut at the Nashville NAMM show in July. Presently it is a basswood body with a maple neck and rose wood fretboard. The neck shape and body design are very sleek, fast and contoured. It has two DiMarzio humbuckers and a piezo system in the bridge with a separate output. The MM bridge has a tremolo and the tuners are locking. So there ya go. I'll try to keep the jam updated with any other info I get. (As well as the Jemsite Forum) Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:31:09 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: sarcasm Message-ID: Oh; If I had known it was YOU, Brian, I wouldn't have bothered to say >anything, since I know your sarcasm. But the message I quoted was from >somebody else (I think it was Fran Brennan) but there weren't any quote >marks in it, so I thought it was from Fran. If I'd known it was you, I >would have laughed. Well, If I write something like that, I'm joking too, okay =^). Fran np: Widespread Panic - Wish You Were Here.mp3 (perfectly legal, since WsP aren't a bunch of greedy corporate pawns....) P.s. - yea, I went back and listened to Home today, and heard the 7/8 part... but I still think that, in combination with THE is the longest consecutive 4/4 on any DT albums...I don't think this thread's catching on, btw..... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:13:35 -0500 From: Pam Nazer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tattooed snobs Message-ID: ]From Bill Gregg >What a mistake it was to join this discussion group! I've never met such >a group >of musical snobs in all my life. ___ ]From Brad Plum >tattoo adorned, metal-heads (not that I have anything against that ;) ) up >there trying to start mosh pits? Is that who you expected on this list (they >are on here)? How is a 'tame' crowd more childish than a wild one? Is Bill Gregg for real or is this someone's idea of an April fools joke? I am very interested in what the folks on the jam have to say, and if we are music snobs, I am proud to be one. I happen to be tattoo adorned, mosh pit loving jammer.(thanks Brad for realizing we exist) BTW I attempted to mosh during Home at the Minneapolis show, but all I got was funny looks from people. Pam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:16:52 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: why i love prog Message-ID: >Nope, Home has a bit in 7/8 if I remember correctly, around the 11 >minute >mark. sometimes it's the smallest thing that kinda puts a stupid grin on my face.....had the worst kind of day, but I'm gonna go to sleep with a smile (especially if the Red Wings hold this 1-0 lead, which they will unless Paul Stewart's ego gets any bigger than it already is) Partha (brought to you by the letters ACL, not that I have an intact one in my left knee any more) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:20:37 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: "Home" time sigs... Message-ID: The last 1:08 of "Home" is in 7/8, T.D. was right. Right now I'm thinking PMU, but I'm not sure, I need to go back a listen again. The 3rd verse is what I'm doubting... "Dust fills my eyes..." that section. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: "Home" time sigs... Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 email_address_removed wrote: > The last 1:08 of "Home" is in 7/8, T.D. was right. > > Right now I'm thinking PMU, but I'm not sure, I need to go back a listen > again. > The 3rd verse is what I'm doubting... > > "Dust fills my eyes..." that section. I think you guys are looking at the wrong albums. While Home is pretty long (that's so far a total of around 18 minutes of straight 4/4 if you consider Through Her Eyes into Home right towards the ending), isn't MOST of WDADU in 4/4? Granted, Ytse Jam isn't, but most of the other songs are, if I'm not mistaken. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:11:32 +1000 From: mikel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Musicians need money Message-ID: > He bragged about d/l 30 albums in one day, when I asked him if he > would buy any originals, his reply, hell no, I don't have the money > to buy them and they (the bands) don't need the money anyway' > Sadly a lot of people think this way. They think that bands are like groups of superhuman people specifically selected at birth to participate in some sort of special life where they all get paid huge piles of cash. The majority of people assume that as kids, the band members must have been special kids who went to special schools and only other special kids ever came into contact with them. Im serious here. Even if people don't think that this is what they think, they do. Its weird because the media pushes this sort of superhuman view and people have this idea that if you are famous then your abilities come from some magical force, and that if you have ability you will be famous. Of course as fans of Dream Theater and as many of us are musicians ourselves, we know this not to be true in the slightest. That ability does not equal success and that you are famous if you right pop tunes, and you are not famous if you dont.... Sure DT probably has a bit of money now, but I suspect that they would still need to work damn hard to maintain their families and what not. They are also probably one of the only prog rock bands at the moment in this situation.... It makes me sad. :( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:38:59 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5434 Message-ID: Dan typed: Check out Best Buy. they just inked a deal to finally build 3 stores in new Orleans. They are cheap, adn they have a shitload of stuff. A friend of mine found a Machine Head import single there for 10 bucks. On the topic of operation Mindcrime, I sort of got by reading the lyrics, livecrime and Video Mindcrime helped out a lot. One album I can't get is Wake of Magellan. I like DWD a lot, the story is a bit weak. everyone always says how great of OM is storywise: Guy gets brainwashed, gets high, kills people, finds out whos controllinh him, goes after him, his prostitute turned nun kills herself, bad guy gets away scott free etc etc. Or you have SFAM: Average guy everyone can relate too has reoccurring dreams about a past life so he goes to regression theapy, finds out about Victoria they love and the struggles, he leaves wanting to expose the truth when the bad man who ruined evryone in the past comes back in the form of a different man to keep the truth hidden.... until Metropolis 3 comes out, with nicholas' son reincarnated as Julian, the only one not reincarnated in Met2. think about it people! Does anyone have a GOOD copy of the WOWOW PPV they could dub and mail me. I have a few video boots I could trade with ya. Im watching mine I got form ebay, the quality is pure crap. The only reason I bought this was SOD live behind it. MOSH! Its funny hearing James speak Japanese with a canadian accent. Kurt "At least study the language before you talk to me" -James Labrie Tokyo Japan 1995 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:08:31 +0200 From: O-P Komonen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: funny thing.... (M. Romeo, Tolkki, Britney and Christina A. Message-ID: Today, our dear friend Raivo Hool was hanging out on #ytsejam.... and he delighted us with this bit of humor: Well, I think _________ (1) is a lot better _________ (2) than _________ (3), because his/her _________ (4) is/are just so much _________ (5) and _________ (6). And in fact, I like _________ (7) even more, because he/she just _________ (8) so much! 1. Michael Romeo / Britney Spears 2. guitarist / singer 3. Yngwie Malmsteen / Christina Aguilera 4. picking technique / boobs 5. precise / bigger 6. melodic / hotter 7. Timo Tolkki / Madonna 8. rocks / grooves so there. op777 Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Kevin Madden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:19:24 -0400 From: Jens Johansson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Naptallica Message-ID: [chris p] > The argument that "the band doesn't need the money" is perhaps the biggest > problem of all, because I have not yet met one person who DLs and/or= copies > readily available albums to MP3, who has ever made the decision that "the > band needs the money." For that matter, why do the band's "needs" come= into > play? What about their fucking RIGHTS? If I steal Bill Gates' car and= get > caught, I'm still going to prison. "Yeah, officer, but he doesn't need= it! > He can buy another one!" Right -- the argument smacks of Communism. And we all know etc etc etc. (Is politics a forbidden Ytsejam topic as well?? :) Hey, maybe in the third= millenium Godwin's law will apply to Stalin, too!!) > Is that what I was talking about? Did you see my post about how the > file format "MPEG 2 Layer 3" is bad, evil, etc? Did you see my posts= about > how up and coming bands are being screwed by uploading their mp3s so that > people can hear what they're all about? Of course not... because I= haven't > fucking posted that. I usually conclude any post on this subject with reiterating my wish that= people who encode and trade copyright protected MP3's would at least= restrict the bit rate to give their fellow infringers some (weak) incentive= to buy the CD. My 2=A2 (literally) --- Jens. (offline) (http://www.panix.com/~jens/) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: mindcrime Message-ID: Really, I got the story in about an hour with the CD blaring and the lyric sheet in front of me. Peace, Barry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:16:33 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: We are not snobs!!! Message-ID: Bill Gregg wrote, among other things: "What a mistake it was to join this discussion group." Hey, buddy, bite me. Who are you to say the people in here or the people who go to DT shows are nerds? If you look right above your post, there were some people talking about Savatage. We've had some Queensryche topics in here. But, this is called the YTSEJAM!!!! The whole purpose of this jam is to talk about DT. DT is my favorite band, as well as everyone who subscribes to this list, but that don't mean we are snobs. I don't think Black Sabbath sucks because Tony Iommi doesn't have the chops that John Petrucci has. I love all kinds of hard rock/metal/prog and I would say that we have a lot of Pantera fans on the jam, etc. I hope you know the unsub method, jackass!! Officially out of lurk mode, Barry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:40:40 -0500 From: "Pye, Adam" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Things to do in San Diego? Message-ID: Hey folks... I'll be in San Diego the first week of May for a business trip. Any tips on good places to go? Live music (rock/metal or jam bands)? Good bars? Thanks for any info in advance... Adam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:11:14 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: DT "Burning My Soul" promo Message-ID: For sale: Dream Theater - Burning My Soul radio promo $12 SHIPPING INCLUDED. Tracks: 1. Radio Edit 2. LP Version 3. Audio Bio If interested, email me. Dan +- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+ email_address_removed http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - +- your arms cover me like a blanket (chromakey) -+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:11:01 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: Savatage, Shadow Gallery, Tori, FNM, Flesh, Ed Roland Message-ID: I've got the following CDs for sale, shipping included: Tori Amos - Star Profile book & Interview CD $8 Tori Amos - Raspberry Swirl (German import) CD $10 Savatage - Streets: A Rock Opera $6 Shadow Gallery - Carved in Stone $8 Flesh - Flesh (M.Cherone/P.Bettencourt) $8 Ed E. Roland (Collective Soul-leader solo CD) SEALED $12 Faith No More - Live at the Brixton VIDEO $15 If interested, email me at: email_address_removed Dan +- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+ email_address_removed http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - +- your arms cover me like a blanket (chromakey) -+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:12:15 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: DT "Streams of Consciousness" 2CD Message-ID: For sale: Dream Theater - Streams of Consciousness" 2CD $40 (originally $50) Original painted disc Mike Bahr bootleg. Color liners. In excellent condition. Recorded live in Los Angeles, CA. November 11, 1997 - Soundbard. SHIPPING INCLUDED, US only. Tracks: DISC 1- 1. Lines in the Sand 2. Burning My Soul 3. Voices 4. Under a Glass Moon 5. Hollow Years 6. Puppies on Acid 7. Innocence Faded 8. Just Let Me Breathe 9. Peruvian Skies 10. Pull Me Under DISC 2- 1. Scarred 2. The Darkest of Winters 3. Ytse Jam 4. New Millenium 5. The Inevitable Summer 6. The Crimson Sunset 7. Metropolis Part 1 8. Perfect Strangers (Nightmare Cinema - all switched instruments) 9. It's Mine, But You Can't Drive It (Mike Portnoy on vocals) 10. Metropolis Part 1 (Reprise) 11. Surrounded (Mike Portnoy on vocals!!!) If interested, email me. Dan +- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+ email_address_removed http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - +- your arms cover me like a blanket (chromakey) -+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:50:21 -0400 From: "Scott Sturdivant" To: Subject: CDR Comparison Link? Message-ID: <003b01bfa945$6cde2a80$message_id_removed> Hey guys, I remember seeing someone's bootleg trading page that had a link to a guide they wrote comparing various makes of CDRs and explaining why they weren't all created equal. Unfortunately I've since lost that link so if you're that person or happen to know the page I'm talking about, please email me. If not, just disregard this. Thank you! Scott. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5435 **************************