YTSEJAM Digest 5423 Today's Topics: 1) Re:Music Colleges in the Northern US by Brian Larkin 2) The Bafu Creed by "Paul \"Pellaz\" Cashman" 3) Transatlantic Secret Message by Todd Wilson 4) Music Colleges in the Northern US by Teresa 5) Re: The Bafu Creed by Andrew Coutermarsh 6) Re: Transatlantic..a few thoughts by Mike Patrick 7) SUNY Fredonia by Drew Schinzel 8) Fwd:Dream Theater in Manchester GB by "Awake ." 9) contradiction, Transatlantic, and Berklee by "Fran Brennan" 10) Caught in Amsterdam by Alexandro Talamini 11) Re: New Nightwish Video! by Janne Jokitalo 12) Berklee by "Michael G. Benoit" 13) Re: Adolescence by email_address_removed 14) Impossible to unsub by "Kenn de Mello" 15) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5421 by "Philip J. Kaplan" 16) TSO_Beethovens Last Night *SPOILERS* by Kurt M Hampton 17) Re: Transatlantic..a few thoughts by Damon Fibraio 18) ytsecon / bahr by email_address_removed 19) James Labrie's haunting past (life) by "chahram riazi" 20) Steve Vai? by "Sasha C." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 07:38:05 -0400 From: Brian Larkin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Music Colleges in the Northern US Message-ID: I don't think anyone mentioned the Philly University of the Arts. My old guitar teacher studied jazz there, and one of his teachers was none other than Jimmy Bruno ... I'm thinking of going there if I either decide to major in composition, or if I decide to go the jazz route. ~Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 08:30:03 -0400 From: "Paul \"Pellaz\" Cashman" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The Bafu Creed Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:45:09 -0400 > From: "Jason Birzer" > To: > Subject: BAFU!!! > Message-ID: > > >So we started screaming "Bafu! Bafu! BAFU!" We didn't find Bafu, but > >there must have been at least ten unidentified Dream Theater fans who > >just turned and grinned. They weren't laughing AT us; they were just > >amused by the fact that they knew what the hell we were shouting at :) > > I remember this. Actually, we did run into Bafu inside. It was the first time I met the man. I was suprised that he was so normal looking... :^) Trey Allen, his friend Brandon and I were the first Ytsejammers every to meet Bafu, wayyyy back for Ytsecon II. After an amazing roadtrip that proceeded in stages from Jacksonville and Atlanta up to Charlotte, we were set to pick up the infamous, wild Bafu Vai at his dad's place in Chevy Chase, Maryland. (This should have told us something :)) We found the place after getting lost only once and rang the bell. We were ushered inside to await the presence of the mighty Bafu. This clean-cut, dark-haired kid comes down the stairs. We're all thinking (and I think one of us said) "Hi, do us a favor and find your brother, the one with the long hair and the leather jacket"....but of course this frightfully normal-looking kid turned out to be THE Bafu. So, disgusted, we turned and left. No, wait, that's in the parallel universe without the letter J. :) We then proceeded the rest of the way up to NY for the infamous Malibu and Bitch HELL shows -- it's still the most fun I've ever had on a roadtrip. We NEED another YtseCon. :) I'd volunteer to coordinate something, but Atlanta is too far off the beaten path for most of us. Maybe somewhere else? Oh, count me in as one of those evil Creed-lovers. (And they're touring with our friends in Crawlspace-- err, Sevendust.) Decent band who made the colossal mistake of getting signed and pushed by a major label. How DARE they actually make money and have fans? :) -- +----- Paul W. Cashman, email_address_removed ICQ 4151223 ------+ | Website: http://people.atl.mediaone.net/pellaz/ | | <- please note the new email and website locations -> | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:03:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Wilson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Transatlantic Secret Message Message-ID: Has anyone else noticed that at the end of Mystery Train there is someone talking (which sounds like Mike PornToy) and it's being played backwards? Well, he is saying 'I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON MY PENIS!' I thought it was funny. Todd ===== Todd W. Wilson Product Engineering Enterprise Computing Systems Division Networking and Computing Systems Group Motorola http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Street/7700 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:05:29 -0500 From: Teresa To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Music Colleges in the Northern US Message-ID: Yes, Ithaca College does have a great music school , and I'm not just saying that because I go to school here! Teresa > Another good one to look at in this area is Ithaca. Being a private > school, it is rather expensive and kind of difficult to get into, but it > has an extraordinary music department (so I've heard). I know several > people that have attended (including music teachers that top the charts > when I grew up). It's a very good undergrad music school. > > Andrew Coutermarsh > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: The Bafu Creed Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Paul "Pellaz" Cashman wrote: > No, wait, that's in the parallel universe without the letter J. :) Is that from the Robert Heinlein book "The Number of the Beast?" I seem to remember something about one of the universes not having the letter J, but maybe I'm just remembering something else. I never did finish that book; it was just too weird for me. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix." - Dan Quayle ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Patrick To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Transatlantic..a few thoughts Message-ID: I just got it as well. Very good stuff - really varied, not one second all that far from interesting, very 70-ish prog sounding WITHOUT sounding dated... >I never knew Neal morse was that good a piano player! Sure. And he cuts loose every now and then on Spock's stuff too. Hopefully you own it all and just forgot! :) >my only complaint is that it >sounds a little too much like >spocks (no complaints here though) Yeah, Neal is Neal is Neal. If he's singing, you're thinking SB, no question. For that matter, his key playing is very distinctive too - lots of weird chromatic riffs, etc. Good stuff, but it's immediately got his stamp all over it when you hear it. Heck, he's almost suffering from Portnoy psuedo-overexposure. In the last two years, you've had 'Day for Night', his solo album, Transatlantic, and the new Beard is right around the corner - well, late summer probably. Whew! And just look at the overall output from him in the relatively short life (thus far) of the Beard. Whoa. One last thing. Can Trewavas play down some bass lines, or what? Who'd have thunk? Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:38:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Drew Schinzel To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: SUNY Fredonia Message-ID: Kenn de Mello wrote: > Also good is Suny Fredonia, I would choose there over crane because > crane reminds me of a prison. My high school band director went to Crane > and got his master's at Ithaca, he said if he were going to do it all > over > again he would just go to Ithaca. BTW, this may be my last post. stay > tuned. SUNY Fredonia's great for music, and I'm not just saying that because I go there. :) Of course, it's super classical-centered, so if you're looking for anything to do with rock guitar stay far away.. DTC: Kevin Moore attended SUNY Fredonia for a semester before dropping out and joining DT. :) I emailed him about it, he said the only time he wasn't miserable was when he was practicing in Mason Hall (the music department building). Drew, who is still looking for "KM wuz here" initialed on the old practice pianos.. hehe. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Apr 2000 15:00:39 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Fwd:Dream Theater in Manchester GB Message-ID: OOOOooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Boooooooooooooooooooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy YEAH, BABY, YEAH!! So I abandoned my fellow NUS delegates in Blackpool, and forsook a night out with Gillian Byrne and Carolyn Blyth in favour of nipping over to Manchester to see OFB. For a sacrifice of that magnitude, the show had better have been good. It was. My review, which will appear in our Student Union magazine with a little "Buy SFaM NOW!!" comment, is below. >---Forwarded message follows:--- >DREAM THEATER >Manchester Academy > >Picture the scene. Guitarist John Petrucci leans towards >the crowd and hisses, "I know what you're thinking: 'Did >he play six billion notes, or only five billion? Tell >you the truth, I know EXACTLY how many I've played. >So I guess you have to ask yourself one question: d'ya >want some more?" > >That answer would have been "YES!", of course; but it >didn't happen. And no member of Dream Theater would ever >have openly acknowledged that their major draw remains >their virtuosity. Which is a bit of a shame, because >somewhere in the maelstrom of notes that make up a Dream >Theater gig, there's some damned fine songs. Tonight, >they're in town to play their latest album, the >concept opus "Scenes From A Memory" in full - a mightily >ambitious undertaking to say the least; but one which >they pull off in the main. For some reason, the sheer >absurdity of the concept and plot don't seem to matter >as much live; and everyone seems to get right into it. >The music was almost note-for-note (again, an awesome >achievement if anyone's heard SFaM), just a lot louder >and more intense. Petrucci has always struggled to find >a really good guitar sound, but he seems to have found >it - and tonight (particularly during "Home") sounds as >if he's trying to kill someone with it! > >Not everything was perfect; I have to admit that it >started to drag in places, and the first of two medleys >was hard to follow even if you knew the songs (for the >record, they were: Puppies On Acid, A Change of Seasons >I & II, Acid Rain, New Millennium and Caught In A Web). >They're obviously certain that they're preaching to the >converted rather than trying to convince curious >punters - given the crowd reaction, that may not be >entirely true. Good news, methinks; as James LaBrie >says, "Maybe things are looking up in the UK for Dream >Theater"! Another problem was the mix, which >had very little of John Myung's bass at just the wrong >times. During several of the points where Petrucci came >out to the fore with lead parts rather than the rhythm >backing, the bass was too quiet to follow properly, >which became a problem in the more complicated >passages. "Beyond This Life" very nearly came off the >rails a few times! The jazzy version of "Amazing Grace" >which they worked into "Through Her Eyes" was great; but >the altro solo was completely ruined by Petrucci going >waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy over the top. Down, boy! > >Apart from the afore-mentioned lack of bass, the mix was >pretty good. It was ridiculously loud, but never once >seemed excessively so; and - unusually for a high-volume >setup - the vocals, guitars, keys and drums sounded >crystal clear. I never once had to resort to the cotton >wool earplugs that I normally take along to a gig to >attenuate the high frequencies! There was some >irritating processing on the vocals in places, but >luckily not too often. The lights were great; but I >could live without the TV screens - when they showed the >odd quote from the libretto, it got distinctly >irritatingly like karaoke. > >To sum up: this wasn't quite "The Wall"'s show for Y2K; >but it was good enough to border on a religious >experience for myself and some of the other die-hards - >in spite of the faults. I had tears in my eyes a couple >of times, particularly during "Finally Free". 10 out of >10; come back soon, DT. Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 08:51:25 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: contradiction, Transatlantic, and Berklee Message-ID: someone who doesn't proofread wrote "my only complaint is that it sounds a little too much like spocks (no complaints here though)-" I hope I'm not the only one who caught that =^). That Transatlantic review was GREAT. They said everything I've been trying to say about it... And to that guy who wrote the big rant on berklee - Thanks! I'm starting there in May, and that post was a big eye-opener (at least subconciously. It's not like I REALLY expected to become a great player just by going to berklee, but in the back of my mind....) I'm gonna go practice for several hours, I think.... -Fran np: Disco Biscuits - Uncivilized Area ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:02:09 -0300 From: Alexandro Talamini To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Caught in Amsterdam Message-ID: <1EC071008C02D4118B8D0020484030574423E2@CORREIO> Hi there, Just wanted to know what you jammers think about the bootleg called CAUGHT IN AMSTERDAM, on 04.14.97, when DT played some unrealesed tracks (for that era) that would make it on the FII albun. How's the performance?? How's the sound quality?? How's the set list?? Is there any noticeable difference on the new songs?? Alex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:38:14 +0300 From: Janne Jokitalo To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: New Nightwish Video! Message-ID: Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: > One question: Is this an actual music video, or is it a recording of a > live show? Because I noticed something really funny about the keyboard > player: There aren't any cables coming out the back of his board, not even > a power cable! Plus, the drummer is playing one set of drums, and the set > of drums in the music is (without a doubt) done on an electronic set. > > Just thought I'd point that out for anybody who didn't notice. I couldn't > get a clear look at the guitar player, but it looks like there isn't a > patch cable coming out of his guitar, either. > > You'd think people would THINK of these things when they record videos. I don't know if you already got the answer, but I'll tell what I see from the video: I know that Nightwish was in Finland's finals for European Song Contest, and thou' they won the audinces (phone calls three times more than for the actual winner !) they came second since the freakin' jury there put enough votes for some stupid bitch...*yack* Anyway, this video seems to be shot at that finals, and the band just seems to give an appearance (as you can see, the phone number for voters) so you can also see who you vote for... That's why they're not playing for real there. And I doubt that Tarja would dress like that to a gig, a real music video of course would be another thing... I hope I'm talking about the same version as you, so that you don't think I'm talking shit here ;-p - Winger __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:03:08 -0400 From: "Michael G. Benoit" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Berklee Message-ID: well, i'm going to berklee not so much to learn a whole bunch but to meet people to start a band with. i think it goes without saying that if you don't put in the effort you won't go anywhere. i hope no one expects the college they go to make them good. however, lest you forget, the guys from DT only stayed a semester because the met each other. everything i've heard points to the fact that berklee is about networking, i.e. meeting other people. it is very unlike any other colleges i've seen too. juilliard, eastman, ithaca are all great schools. however, berklee has 2,000-3,000 students all doing contemporary music. name me another school like that. plus, while the focus isn't on rock there are certainly plenty rock musicians there and others who you can jam with. and you can actually take classes in the rock genre. not too many places like that i assure you. btw, if you think by not going to berklee you'll avoid musical snobbery, you're dead wrong. as someone said, it's everywhere. that's fine with me though cause i know DT rules! hahaha. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:14:16 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Adolescence Message-ID: Curtis Dunham wrote: >>I love every moment of DT's SELF-INDULGENCE but some of the comments >>presented struck somewhat of a final nerve with me over some of this >>DT-bashing-on-the-DT-fanlist stuff. I feel like I read more bitching about >>DT than anything else. >>I love every moment of DT's SELF-INDULGENCE Everyone has negative issues about something. Yours just happen to fall on the jammers instead of the music. Bottome line - what you say is YOUR opinion and what you wrote was YOUR view. Someone else is bound to see it all very differently. One of the best thing about DT are the many different people who can connect with the band. While you may love the self-indulgent parts, someone else may not and they have every right to express it here - even if it is "bitching" in your opinion. Personally - it's interesting to compare my opinions with the people on the jam. Everyone loves different aspects of the music and by LISTENING to what they say and taking it into account we can become more openminded - but then again - that's just MY opinion on the situation Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:50:58 -0400 From: "Kenn de Mello" To: Subject: Impossible to unsub Message-ID: <001901bfa0d2$f9e9f920$message_id_removed> Remember all those unsub requests? Well, I tried to unsub last night, and I still got stuff today. Maybe those people weren't retards after all. Kenn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:39:28 -0400 From: "Philip J. Kaplan" To: Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5421 Message-ID: So weird! I just joined the Jam again after about 3 years, and this message was in my third digest! For some reason, my most vivid memory of that night was the scary Roy Rogers. Where's Chris Merlo? We need to jam again - I just got a new kit and am looking to start something. So do you guys talk about me often on here? - Phil "the guy from Booz Allen (not anymore) who was "pretty cool" (aww shucks) > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:05:23 -0400 > From: "Ryan Park" > To: > Subject: Re: Mike/Matt Bahr > Message-ID: > > > I remember walking around southeast Washington, D.C. (the "really bad part > of town") one evening in November 1997. I was with Syrinx, Jason Birzer, > some guy from Booz-Allen Hamilton who was pretty cool (are you still around? > message me sometime, got a question for ya) and a few other Ytsejammers. We > had just arrived at the Capitol Ballroom, about a half-hour before the doors > opened. As we saw the size of the line for the show, we realized finding > our guest would be difficult. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:55:41 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: TSO_Beethovens Last Night *SPOILERS* Message-ID: Hey, I picked up this disc, its impressive, Paul Oneil has delivered yet another brilliant story to us musically inclined. The only spoiler I have to give out is that Jon Oliva plays the devil. That is too cool, the mountain king will rule FOREVER! Kurt NP-TSO DUUUHHH "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 02:08:33 -0400 From: Damon Fibraio To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Transatlantic..a few thoughts Message-ID: Neil has a solo album? Where do I get it? Is it any good? At 10:05 AM 4/7/00 , you wrote: >I just got it as well. Very good stuff - really >varied, not one second all that far from interesting, >very 70-ish prog sounding WITHOUT sounding dated... > > >I never knew Neal morse was that good a piano player! > > >Sure. And he cuts loose every now and then on Spock's >stuff too. Hopefully you own it all and just forgot! >:) > > >my only complaint is that it > >sounds a little too much like > >spocks (no complaints here though) > >Yeah, Neal is Neal is Neal. If he's singing, you're >thinking SB, no question. For that matter, his key >playing is very distinctive too - lots of weird >chromatic riffs, etc. Good stuff, but it's >immediately got his stamp all over it when you hear >it. Heck, he's almost suffering from Portnoy >psuedo-overexposure. In the last two years, you've >had 'Day for Night', his solo album, Transatlantic, >and the new Beard is right around the corner - well, >late summer probably. Whew! And just look at the >overall output from him in the relatively short life >(thus far) of the Beard. Whoa. > >One last thing. Can Trewavas play down some bass >lines, or what? Who'd have thunk? > >Mike > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com -- Damon Fibraio, and new guide dog Melody email: email_address_removed computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Live show on Tuesdays from 8 to 11 p.m. eastern time go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 03:02:20 EDT From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ytsecon / bahr Message-ID: > From: email_address_removed > Subject: YtseCon, where are you? > > I was just looking through the FAQ and read the section on Ytsecon. I > cant believe nobody did that this time around!!!! Man, I would love to help > put something like that together!!!!!!! Lets put our heads together and see > what we can do! I'm in South Carolina, and we have some nice places > around here we could do it, like Myrtle Beach or Charleston! Whoah... Ytsecon on the beach... Volleyball teams - The Moore Militia vs. The Sherinian Sharks. Winner gets to play the reigning champs, The Rudess Rascals. Referee Mike Portnoy. Hot dogs would be branded with a giant Majesty-symbol. KorgX3 would whip up some bodily fluids for everyone to use as suntan lotion. Mike Bahr would walk around selling "practically legal" DT frisbees. Gold editions starting at $75. Then he'd hire his bodybuilding brother Joey to fly by in the advertising plane, towing a big banner through the air, " B U Y M Y C D S ! ! O R E L S E ! ! " Chris Ptacek and I would kick sand in each other's faces while angrily debating about whether it's "okay" to use a muting device for eight-finger tapping. Then Skadz would mosh Chris and I into oblivion. Then Skadz would get tired of moshing and smoke cigarettes with D-Man. Then they'd smoke. And admire the high school girls walking by. And of course, Coldfire would bring a giant cooler of Jagermeister in her newly-flame-painted Mommy-Tank...for the referee of course... Oh yeah, and Pellaz would shoot down Bahr's plane with freshly-dubbed cassettes of REAL rare music... Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 09:38:54 GMT From: "chahram riazi" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: James Labrie's haunting past (life) Message-ID: I was surfing the net today and ran unto this short biography of James in the Canadian music encyclopedia: http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloPagesL/labrie_james.html In it it says that James started singing and playing drums at age 5. That certainly explains why James is a better drummer than Petrucci. Me:" no offence John." Petrucci:" none taken dude, now if you'll excuse me I gotta take a shower." Me:" ...with John Myung?" Petrucci:"..well, it's like playing the guitar it's something you have to do." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:50:13 +0200 From: "Sasha C." To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: Steve Vai? Message-ID: <000701bfa13f$d806d040$64f51dc3@sasha> hi! i'll be going to one of Vai's concerts next week. I was wondering... is there any merchandise (t-shirts to be precise) that they were selling at the venue? NP: Testament [Low] - Trail of Tears ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5423 **************************