YTSEJAM Digest 5405 Today's Topics: 1) NAPSTER by "Joe Latuscha" 2) Marillion by Matthew Voss 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5404 by "Christopher W. Ptacek" 4) Up the Bruce's! by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" 5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5404 by Waseem 6) Saigon Kick and Xmas Cds by Kurt M Hampton 7) Transatlantic by Todd Wilson 8) Re: SLEEPSTER by Trent 9) Re: Saigon Kick by email_address_removed 10) RS by Pam Nazer 11) gilbert/petrucci by mikel 12) ANY CURRENT BOOTS!?! by "Joseph Smith" 13) Re: Band Names by email_address_removed 14) Re: RS by Trent 15) An official interpretation for SFAM by "The Mad Tabber" 16) Transatlantic.... by Kurt M Hampton 17) Helsinki gig merchandise / **SPOILERS** by Pasi Sundqvist 18) Bad Derek, No Doughnut. by "Korg Ecksthrey" 19) Re: ANY CURRENT BOOTS!?! by "Graham B" 20) Dream Theater in Helsinki 24.3.2000 by "Timo Virkkala" 21) Set List by Oddvar Lovaas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:57:15 -0500 From: "Joe Latuscha" To: Subject: NAPSTER Message-ID: <003001bf95d3$8904e260$message_id_removed> Hello all, I am a Napster User, and I have a ton of DT MP3's, about 400 Megs of them. The only problem is that I am behind a firewall, so I don't even show up on a search. It takes the server too long to get through the firewall to ping me, but I can get out at a very fast rate, I am on a T1. If you use ICQ, and are on more than just a modem, I am willing to ICQ a bunch of these MP3's to you. My ICQ # 37995978, or you can just search for my e-mail address, email_address_removed. I will not send them to you if you are on a modem, it is just too slow (and I am sorry if you are a modem user). Feel free to e-mail me and I can postulate a list of these MP3's for y'all. L8R fellow YTSE-JAMers... Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:59:42 -0500 From: Matthew Voss To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Marillion Message-ID: Someone wanted a review of 2 "Hogillian" CD's. Marillion.com and some other one. Don't bother -stick to the "Fish years." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:26:42 -0600 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5404 Message-ID: <002301bf95d7$a72b4000$95c4fea9@madstation> > From: "Charlie Hamilton" > Subject: Dream Theater vs. Racer X > Alright, so I just started playing with this kid in my high school > jazz band, and he loves dream theater since I showed them to him, but > he said there is this guitarist named Paul Gilbert from a band called > racer X who does does stuff like string skipping arpeggios. I am a > percussionist so I barely have an idea of what that is... anyway he > thinks JP cant do that or something. I could just be dumb in > wondering this, but can John do that kind of stuff? ? (Mainly aimed > to the guitarists out there who know what the hell I am talking > about). Thanks! ! Racer X was the biggest thing in shred guitar in the 80's. I always liked Cacophony more, but Racer X had a HUGE following in the LA scene (unfortunately, I was like, 11 and living in Chicago!). The band consisted of Paul Gilbert and Bruce Bouillet on guitar, John Alderete on bass, Scott Travis on drums and Jeff Martin on vocals. That all being said, YES, there is shit that Paul Gilbert can do that JP can't do, but JP can do stuff that Paul can't do. The more important note is that Paul was doing this stuff almost 15 years ago with Racer X. Paul is one of the guys responsible for shred guitar. He's probably the most interviewed guitarist in Japanese guitar mags (which bury our wimpy American publications). Something interesting you might go back and do is to watch LiT and then watch Rock Discipline, and see how much JP has changed. I don't think he was technically at Gilbert's level (though conceptually, certainly) back in the I&W days... but the man is a machine. He is such a dedicated "practicer" for lack of a better term. Paul has been from day one with Racer X, a purebred shredder. It's hard to find "advances" he made in his career, if you ask me. Just unstopable chops on top of chops. I assure you, however, that JP can do string skipping arpeggios. :) JP has been influenced by Racer X, I believe. That whole Erotomania end solo is like a Racer X kind of vibe. Tunes like "Skit Skat Wah" were written around the same exact technique, and ran through similar neo-classical progressions. Paul was there first (though I think he's younger than JP) but JP has most certainly caught up with a vengeance! The thing I notice about John is that he's covered more ground. He has more vibes in his playing. I'm gonna stop rambling now. Everyone who likes psycho guitar music owes it to themselves to check out some Racer X. And tune out the lyrics. :) > From: "T.D. Smith" > Subject: RE: Dream Theater vs. Racer X > Paul Gilbert is, or at least was considered one of the best in the world. > Racer X broke up a while back, and he joined Mr. Big, in which he plays > considerably easier stuff. Racer X has a new album... should be out soon in the US. It's the original lineup, except that Bruce couldn't play on the album due to hand problems... not sure if it's CTS or tendonitis or something more serious. I read in Guitar1 that he's in too much pain to play. Later! - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:10:40 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Up the Bruce's! Message-ID: clip of the first single (Wicker Man) from the new Iron Maiden (Brave New World) available at www.ironmaiden.com Sounds more like the later solo Bruce Dickinson material than recent Maiden proper, and in my opinion, that's a damn good thing. There's also a classic Maiden kick that opens up the proceedings. The clip is only a minute long, but it's a great sign if the rest of the album is like this minute. The hype on the official page about taking good elements from the past twenty years and mixing them up just may prove true :) one things for sure, this clip, at least is mixed waaaaay better than virtual XI, which may have been the 'deadest' album ever created Up the Irons! Partha "The Piper at the gates of dawn is calling you his way" --wicker man (a decent movie, "The wicker Man", Edward Woodward trying to straighten out a bunch of heathens on some English island....can't tell if the song is based on that or not, but it wouldn't be the first time IM's taken from pop culture if it turns out to be the case) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:26:24 -0800 From: Waseem To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5404 Message-ID: ok ok guitar world and guitar 1 or guitar-whatever!!--if petrucci isnt the num 1 guitarist then can someone please tell us who is? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:32:59 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Saigon Kick and Xmas Cds Message-ID: Hey guys, First off Im a HUGE SK fan, since the Lizard. I have the first CD autographed by Jason himself. DITD and Water are my favs I think. Water has some cool stuff on it. Jason new bands CD called Shuttlecok comes out in April. They had a song called Super Down in American Pie. Its playing when they are in the pizza parlor discussing their virginity. I highly reccommend them, just good ole rock n roll. On the topic of Xmas CD's All I have been hearing is that the 1st batch DID NOT cover all existing members. Some who joined in like June-Dec did not get part of the first run. the FC reopend the oppurnity for people to join until Feb. they got a master list of EVRYONE who didn't get Cd and ran that many for the second run. The second batch will arrive in April. Kurtman "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:11:08 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Wilson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Transatlantic Message-ID: does anyone know of a link of where i can buy the limited edition of transatlantic? thanks. todd ===== Todd W. Wilson Product Engineering Enterprise Computing Systems Division Networking and Computing Systems Group Motorola http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Street/7700 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:15:57 -0800 (PST) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SLEEPSTER Message-ID: >I am a Napster User, and I have a ton of DT > MP3's, about 400 Megs of > them. The only problem is that I am behind a > firewall, so I don't even show > up on a search. It takes the server too long to get > through the firewall to ping me I hear the need for a firewall. I'm on cable and I have two of 'em. However, I know (from experience) that you can turn down the security settings on your firewall(s) and allow Napster access. I've done both and people who d/l from me usually enjoy a speedy d/l (that is, they do if they're on something more than dial up). ===== *Trent AIM- el trento ICQ- 65190048 Sometimes I wish I was a donut __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:23:46 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Saigon Kick Message-ID: Check out bvbmusic.com....for all your Saigon needs... << Has anyone heard anything new from the band Sigon Kick? I have 'bout 4 of there CD. Great music, but I have heard nothing from them in a few years. If anyone has any info, could you post. >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:08:48 -0600 From: Pam Nazer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RS Message-ID: >. that we should be focusing on the bigger magazines like Spin >and Rolling Stone. But, my primary interest is getting them back into the >musicial publications first. If we can get up enough email action, stir the >pot sort of speak, then maybe we might be ready to tackle a big publication. I am glad someone brought Rolling Stone up. The lack of coverage on prog has bothered me. The only time I can remember reading anything about a progressive band in Rolling Stone was a one sentence slam on Marillion. There are many other problems I have with Rolling Stone: Bands that my twelve year old daughter has out-grown on the cover covers with people who have nothing to do with music RS seems more interested in freaks than in music Does anyone else agree? Pam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:46:31 +1100 From: mikel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: gilbert/petrucci Message-ID: > Okay, all of you who advised me to search more than > once turned out to be very correct. My first search > yielded no DT. The second search only brought up > "Ytsejam". are you using capital letters (don't)? i have never been on and found no dream theater > Alright, so I just started playing with this kid in my high school > jazz band, and he loves dream theater since I showed them to him, but > he said there is this guitarist named Paul Gilbert from a band called > racer X who does does stuff like string skipping arpeggios. I am a > percussionist so I barely have an idea of what that is... anyway he > thinks JP cant do that or something. I could just be dumb in > wondering this, but can John do that kind of stuff? ? Paul Gilbert is an awsome guitarist. Like it is with most things there are probably some things that Gilbert can do better than Petrucci and vice versa. They both do great stuff, but I think Petrucci would be a bit ahead in the speed department, especially when it comes to single string playing. He doesnt do a lot of string skipping. Im sure Petrucci is capable of anything if he sat down a practised it for awhile though. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:54:35 CST From: "Joseph Smith" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ANY CURRENT BOOTS!?! Message-ID: I have checked on ebay and bid on a couple of bootsfrom the current tour and was immediately outbid. I hear the St. Louis show is good. Is there anybody here that is producing these boots or knows how to contact someone who is? I would love a boot from ANYWHERE on the current tour but don't know where to go. Please e-mail me privately and THANKS in advance. JOE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:11:36 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Band Names Message-ID: >< > ================================================================== > ========= > Now Playing: Symphony X--Fallen.mp3 > ================================================================== Where did you get that .mp3? V is almost as mysterious as SFAM was before its release. >< I've heard some of the new Sym X and let me tell you, it may very well be their best. The SX mailing list had access to some of the songs for a short time. thats no longer, though. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:17:39 -0800 (PST) From: Trent To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: RS Message-ID: --- Pam Nazer wrote: > > >. that we should be focusing on the bigger > magazines like Spin > >and Rolling Stone. But, my primary interest is > getting them back into the > >musicial publications first. If we can get up > enough email action, stir the > >pot sort of speak, then maybe we might be ready to > tackle a big publication. I don't understand this. Why do people think that it's within their power to dictate to people what the latest musical trend is? Let's face it, if and when prog music becomes fashionable again, it probably won't be for another twenty or so years (it took swing a hell of a long time to "come back" and that was only for a few months and it was mostly posers). People like what they like (or what they've been told to like) so there's jackshit pretty much anyone can do about it. That's how it goes. ===== *Trent AIM- el trento or PageRiff ICQ- 65190048 Napster- cybertrent Is this the part where I'm supposed to say something funny? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:43:36 GMT From: "The Mad Tabber" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: An official interpretation for SFAM Message-ID: Ok, anyone wanting to put this issue at rest by hearing something official by the band, go to this address: http://www.snowhill.com/~bvaughn/petrucci.htm Look for a link on the right side (or in the News section). There is a webpage with some quotes from Mike Portnoy himself which basically gives most of the secrets away (like who is the hypnotherapist, does the newsclip sequence at the end have anything to do with the story, ...) But beware if you want to surrender to the secret!! MAJOR SPOILERS!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 02:21:40 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Transatlantic.... Message-ID: Hey, I actually found this disc at a wherehouse music. THis guy Neal Morse is the singer of Spocks Beard correct. I REALLY LIKE HIS VOICE. This is good music. Mike rulz. Kurt "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:59:20 +0200 From: Pasi Sundqvist To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Helsinki gig merchandise / **SPOILERS** Message-ID: The gig last night in Helsinki was amazing! The sound was just excellent! Usually it's pain to listen without ear plugs but this time I took the plugs off several times just to listen to the great bass drum sound. Also the guitar was mixed rather quiet, so that you can not just hear the rest of the band but hear the guitar also. Usually the guitar is mixed overwhelmingly loud and there's just the high of the sound that hurts your ear. This time the balance was really good and your could hear tones and all. LaBrie has a long hair again. I have not seen recent photos much and I was happy with the long har as it looks much better with James than the short hair which he used to have during FII. Propably Derek told him to cut his hair, I don't know... I tend to blame Derek for most of the bad changes... Anyway, he looked more like I&W-like again. Much better. Stangely enough, he looks more masculine with the long hair than with the short hair. The set list was not a surprise after you know what they have done previously on this tour and and the mini tour before new year. There was everything from Dr. Evil-theme to LTE-stuff. I bought the tour book which has a lot of photos, not much text. The great catch is that it's a commemorative book, there are photos from every past tour and record (-85-00). The price was about 10 euros in Finland but if you find the old photos interesting like I do, it's really worth it. The cap was really expensive (20 euros) but it's cool! Black cap and golden text, big logo in the fore, M2000 - Dream Theater text in the back of the cap. Finally a good looking cap. I liked only one t-shirt... The black one with album cover in the front, members names in the back. I bought 2 of them... There was a white t-shirt with Murder-newspaper clip in the front and the band name in the back and also there was a black t with a band shot in the front and a tour dates in the back. They were also quite good but the best (to my taste) would have been the album cover in the front and the tour dates in the back. However, I'm satisfied with the cover shirt. There was also loads of other merchandise so if you're into spending (like my girl friend whined) make sure to take a lot of cash with you. Back to the actual show... There was no drum solo! Actually that does not matter as Mike really plays worth for all our collective ticket money through the show, except for Through your eyes which had a drum machine! I said to my frinds that maybe Mike had to take a dump while... No, seriously, it's a long show and I understand that you need some little breaks during it. Especially as Mike's playing is so energetic. Still, the drum machine is quite annoying but the audience seemed to live with that. For the big video screens that I heard people talking about... Yeah, there were 6 TV-sets... And Jordan really rules! No doubt, he's the man for this job! Derek was more into other stuff but Jordan is really playing. I think DT needs a player like Jordan, not a worship-me-kind of guy like Derek. Somebody else might write something more about the actual show than I do but I would always like to know what kind of merchandise to expect but nobody ever tells about it. The FII-tour was a disappointment for me also in the selection of merchandizing but this time the stuff is good. All in all, it was great to see Dream Theater back in the lines that most of us like, FII tour was a disappointment for me in many ways. Everything seems to be back to normal after that horrible Derek-incident. I hope they return to Finland soon. Pasi Sundqvist ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 02:40:38 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Bad Derek, No Doughnut. Message-ID: <004b01bf963e$300efa90$550d84d0@default> > hair, I don't know... I tend to blame Derek for most of the bad > Anyway, he looked more like I&W-like again. Much better. Stangely > he looks more masculine with the long hair than with the short hair. Yes, and his ass is sooooo much tighter, too. It was good to see him in his old leather pants from the old I&W days again. Mmmm... Maybe it's better he didn't partake of my twinkie. I'd hate to see that sweet ass balloon! And, yup, with the hair again, he's gone back to the ol' Gabby Reece from behind look. I love it. Turn around James. Oooh, yeah. :) And let's never forget to take a good five minutes out of our day to Damn Derek for trying to ruin our favorite band. Being the newest member, he was, of course, granted complete control over the whole FII situation. What a complete utter waste of a four year wait between albums. DAMN DEREK! I'm glad DT "woke up" from the delusion they had to even appoint such a talentless buffoon as their keyboard player! Over Jeennss Joohhaannssoonn (bjork bjork bjork!) even, paltry Casio player though he may be! ;) *Korg passes out autographed umlauts to everyone* > seems to be back to normal after that horrible Derek-incident. Yup. It's a damn good thing they came up with a vaccination for Derek. -- KorgX3 sweeps his tongue across his ambergris lick. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:32:26 +1100 From: "Graham B" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ANY CURRENT BOOTS!?! Message-ID: > I have checked on ebay and bid on a couple of bootsfrom the current > tour and was immediately outbid. I hear the St. Louis show is good. > Is there anybody here that is producing these boots or knows how to > contact someone who is? I would love a boot from ANYWHERE on the > current tour but don't know where to go. Please e-mail me privately > and THANKS in advance. Why are you buying bootlegs from the current tour ? Ebay is nothing short of scandalous the way some so called DT fans charge ridiculous prices for boots that should be traded. In fact I'd go as far to say, their greedy thieves trying to make blatant profit off desperate DT fans :) I'm sure there's some kind soul on this list who copy you a boot for costs only. Maybe some how e could start a CD tree with a decent quality boot from the current tour. Anyone ?? gaz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:05:37 +0200 From: "Timo Virkkala" To: Subject: Dream Theater in Helsinki 24.3.2000 Message-ID: <016301bf965a$d19529e0$e0e126d4@pentium> OK, Here's a little review of the yesterday's concert in Helsinki. First of all, the seats that I got us were horrible, they were straight left from the stage, so we would have maybe seen a glimpse of Jordan every now and then.. So, we moved to perhaps the farthest corner of the Ice Hall, we were really high, so I would have got great pictures if my camera had had a better zoom.. I would have loved seeing them more closely, but that was compensated a bit by the fact that I had met the band up close & personal the day before. Anyway, Spock's Beard started about 20:15 and played for about 35 minutes. Some of our group (including me) liked them very much, the other's didn't care about them.. They played well, despite some technical problems with Alan's acoustic in The Doorway's acoustic duet. I think they played 4 songs: 1. Day for Night 2. (I didn't know this one.. Anyone?) 3. The Doorway 4. The Light Then there was some set change and sound check, and 21:20 Dream Theater came on. The sound and mix were excellent, my only complain is about the bass drum sound.. When Mike played it "normally" it sounded great, but when he accented the beats there was this very audible click in the sound that I didn't like. Otherwise the sounds were great, and we could easily hear everybody in the mix, the guitar wasn't too loud. James sounded very in shape too. And in the middle of The Dance of Eternity there was Jordan's keyboard solo.. You should have seen the look on my friend's face, he's played classical piano for 13 years and is probably one of Finland's best pianists in our age group. And he was blown away by Jordan's solo =) Anyway, the set list was 1. Metropolis part II: Scenes from a Memory (in it's entirety, with keyboard solo in TDOE) 2. Peruvian Skies 3. Dr. Evil's theme 4. Instrumental Medley 5. When Images & Words Unite -medley (I may have confused the order.. But that was what they played, anyway =) -WT- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:52:38 +0100 From: Oddvar Lovaas To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Set List Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000325155238.007366f0@online.no> Do anyone know the setlist of the show played in Helsinki March 24th? Thanks:) < flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://home.sol.no/~flail - ICQ: 3253879 > ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5405 **************************