YTSEJAM Digest 5396 Today's Topics: 1) Newspaper T-shirt by email_address_removed 2) re: Hendrix by Brian Hansen 3) SFAM is best! by "Secret_of Area_51" 4) Re: Satch by email_address_removed 5) New Satch album... by "Rob Doyle" 6) new Satriani-out now! by email_address_removed 7) woefully NDTC by "Alex O'Connell" 8) Wagner a Nazi? by Jared Rodecker 9) Re: Chill of Winter/stuff by Kurt M Hampton 10) Devil Doppelgangers by "M P" 11) Re: The Quiet Room by Michael Kizer 12) Dream Theater Gold2000 !!???? by Emre Topuzoglu 13) Billy Sherwood by CyberDuke 14) Dallas show by "Alan Estrada" 15) help with MP3 shows by "Mats Rydstrom" 16) Vey importent !!!"Claudio Guerrini" !!!! by "savas oguz" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:50:54 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Newspaper T-shirt Message-ID: Hey folks--- I was just wondering if anyone knew of a place on the internet where i could order the Metropolis 2000 white T-shirt that has the newspaper article on it and the DT logo on back. I got the one with the band on front and majesty symbol and tour dates on the back. I love it but i only had enough cash for that one and I wanted the commerative (sp?) tour book and white T-shirt as well, but I guess im only looking for the white shirt now. haha Maybe someone who has an extra could sell or trade.....(pref Large) Thanks -compadre- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:05:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: Hendrix Message-ID: "Fran Brennan" wrote: > Hendrix was one of the first to experiment with things like feedback, > whammy bar, and guitar burning, and his influence is still being felt. Sure, >if he hadn't have died young, he would probably have been less influential. Yep, Hendrix was very influential. I don't think that his "influence" was effected by his death. His "mystique" was enhanced though. For example, Van Halen, Hetfield and Malmsteen were all very influential. But they have a lot less mystery (reverence?) around them since they are still alive. "Korg Ecksthrey" wrote: > "He played his guitar with his teeth." > Well, I'm sure one of these days someone will strum the guitar with > their erect penis and out-do him. Damn that's painfull! (Well, actually it's kinda fun if you have grounding problems.) I shall now write a book on "Guitar Pricking Technique". ;o) my $.02, BH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:19:33 PST From: "Secret_of Area_51" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFAM is best! Message-ID: Someone asked if SFAM will have the same staying power as I&W. Well, I think Scenes is by far the best DT album to date, and it may very well turn out to be the best they ever do. Tracks 2-5 are my favorite (especially the bridge section in Strange Deja Vu), and I think it kicks I&W pretty bad. I know Images has some really good stuff on it, and that it's the album that started this whole mini-revolution we have going here, but Scenes is more evolved, kinda where everything came together for them. It's their first album IMO that can be listened to over & over and just REFUSES to get old. Nelaskon ECA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:49:58 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Satch Message-ID: In a message dated 3/17/00 4:46:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << Both the mp3s i got sound really good and definately interesting and different..... this is not a personal flame, but some of you guys need to open your minds a bit. >> Yeah, I agree. I used to put down all forms of electronic music, thinking there was no talent involved, until I started making it myself! - in addition to prog :) Its alot more intelligent than I thought and is very interesting...and fun. You'd be suprised...it's not just all samples and looped artificial drum beats, it gets alot cooler and more creative than that. I'm still waiting for Satch's new album from CDnow, but I think it's great that a top notch musician like Satch is experimenting with technology. adaM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:07:17 -0600 From: "Rob Doyle" To: Subject: New Satch album... Message-ID: <01ce01bf9076$4dd7eb40$488ace80@.dhcp.missouri.edu> Someone mentioned that "Engines of Creation" was out on March 24th, but unless you were referring to a European release date - the record is already out! I live in Kansas City, MO, and we've had the record since tuesday... or maybe my local record store is a little too nice to me? :) doubtful... where are the samples from this record? electronic, huh? uh oh... :) - Rob Doyle Community Educator - Fine Arts Residential College University of Missouri - Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:52:22 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: new Satriani-out now! Message-ID: The Satriani came out this week, so run to the stores now! If you have a Wherehouse Music close by, they're giving away a 4 track cd with the purchase of the album. The 4 tracks are unreleased and remixes. Good stuff! -Kyle << Yeah, it comes out Mar. 24, and it's called "Engines of Creation". You can download the two singles that have been released, "Borg Sex" (nifty techno song) and "Unitl We Say GoodBye" (mellow, kinda like a bluesier Always With Me...), from www.satriani.com >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:21:55 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: woefully NDTC Message-ID: Hey ytse guys and gals, I have a question regarding a song (title, and artist) that I am trying to locate. Unfortunately, I am having a hard time finding it since I have neither the name of the song nor of the artist! Any of you from the NY/NJ area who have ever listened to WSOU might be of some service (if you exist on here at all), they had it on rotation during the summer of '98 very regularly. I am almost certain it was a cover of another, older, and much mellower tune - what I'm after is a fairly heavy, hard core song. The chorus includes, "green river, roll on, roll on, take me back to the place where I belong." There was more, but I don't know the words exactly. I know, real helpful, right? Anywho, it's kind of hard to run searches on the internet without the kind of information that I am asking for. :) If anyone has any ideas, no matter how farfetched they might seem to you, PLEASE just pass them on to me! Private mail or jam, whatever is easier.. I will chase down whatever lead I get. There will be no flameage if it dead ends. :) Thanks in advance!! Alex "The White House has always attracted the mentally ill." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:36:27 -0600 From: Jared Rodecker To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Wagner a Nazi? Message-ID: >Just the >fact that he had Nitschean ideals and nationalist views don't make him >"a nazi" First of all, if someone had Nietzschean ideals, that would instantly qualify as them as being extrememly anti-Nazi. But since this guy doesn't even know how to spell Nietzsche, he's probably never read anything he's ever written either. And it was the other way around. As a young man Nietzsche idolized Wagner but later came to hate him passionately for a variety of reasons, both personal and philosophical. Wagner certainly wasn't a Nazi, because there were no such things as Nazis when Wagner was alive (duh!). But the fact remains that the Nazis, while publicly using Nietzsche's name and noteriety in their cause, realized how anti-Nazi his ideas actually were and they censored his writings heavily and did not allow them to be read in their original form in universities. On the other hand, the Nazis didn't censor anything Wagner said or composed, and the fact that they allowed him to be exposed to the public without censorship implies that they felt he supported the Nazi's ideals. It is unfortunate that people don't take the time to read Nietzsche, but instead continue to rely on uneducated stereotypes that have no foundation whatsover in his actual work. Jared email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:53:03 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Chill of Winter/stuff Message-ID: I am in the process of tarding for it. I will have it in a week. Ill post a review, so if you want to trade instead of spending 50 bucks, thats coolness. hehe Once I bought IAW I realized John is really a guy. Poor Myung :( Kurt NP-SFAM Spirit Carries On "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going" - Doubledrive "Gone" "Im inspired and content"-Dream Theater "Scarred" 45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:43:27 EST From: "M P" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Devil Doppelgangers Message-ID: >From: "Christoph" >Subject: Re: The other Devil Doll > > I was poking around the House of Blues site and I found this... > > DEVIL DOLL > > Recorded Live at House of Blues Las Vegas > > Little do they know that there's an Italian prog band / entity of the > > same name. Could mean trouble. This went through the Devil Doll list about a month ago. According to some higher-up sources, The American band has been made aware, but don't give a shit. Renaissance and Hurdy Gurdy probably don't have the money or interest to pursue a lawsuit right now. >Holy shit yeah! I was visiting this site too, in unlimited happiness to >have found a live gig of the great Italian horror-prog band Devil Doll >and what does it turn out to be??? If DD ever make it out of Slovenia and Italy to do a gig, I'd be surprised. Bootlegs are non-existant. Keep the faith. Apparantly a 2nd box(?) set is in the works, based around Dies Irae. A&J/JAJUID ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:13:25 -0700 From: Michael Kizer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: The Quiet Room Message-ID: email_address_removed wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone new why The Quiet Room > changed three members for their upcoming new CD. > > It's just an interesting thing to see....I'd appreciate > anything anybody knows about it. According to the liner notes for the new CD "Reconceive" , the band consists of: Pete Jewell - Vocals Jason Boudreau - Guitars, Vocals George Glasco - Guitars Jeff Janeczko - Keyboards and Piano Rob Munshower - Bass Graeme Wood - Drums, Vocals * The albums kicks ass too... ;) -- ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:02:24 +0200 From: Emre Topuzoglu To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dream Theater Gold2000 !!???? Message-ID: I was going back home from school and saw somethin, i didnt beleive what i saw but i checked it carefully in my hands ! that was the cover of SFAM ! when i looked inside it was SFAM !! but it was about $3.80 and not original ! even a cdr !! it was bulgaria pressed(i guess bulgaria.. all illegal cd`s you can find here like games programs etc..pressed there) that was not all ! there was 2 DT cd`s else `DreamTheater Best2000` and OIALT DreamTheater Best2000 ???????????????????? haave they released that ?!?!?!!?!? i dont think soo i dont remember all the tracklisting of Dt Best2000 cd except strange Dejavu, 6:00 Caught In a web and 2 live songs, soo what`s going on here ?!?!? maybe that is one of the reasons cause my country is not on tour list ! , people buy that illegal copies (again they were not cdr !!!!!!) instead of original ones and they effect sale numbers to seen low ! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:51:08 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: Ytsejam Subject: Billy Sherwood Message-ID: So, the guy now plays guitar on the present Yes tour. But I just can't remeber FROM WHERE do I knwo his name, seems so familiar but .... Anyone gimme a clue? Since I'm a little behind with jams, private mail will do fine. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:17:10 PST From: "Alan Estrada" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dallas show Message-ID: I havent posted in a while but I wanted to comment on last weeks show on Dallas, first of all thanks to all the houston jammers who made less boring 8 hours of wait... so, thanks Nicole, Palpatine, Bob and the rest of you (I didnt get all the names, sorry) the show was pretty good, but what happened when Portnoy threw the cymbal and went out of the stage before thru her eyes? I dont think the drum samples werent supposed to be played there...it seemed like Petrucci wanted to extend the intro by improvising with Jordan.... I hope that Dream Theater would play soon here in Monterrey, because 12 hours of travel are not very fun...we stayed one block away from the bronco bowl in a motel that wasnt that cheap, it was a very awful place...the owner was from india, so imagine a guy like apu from the simpsons who can barely talk in english and imagine us who can barely speak in english trying to communicate... the star people were kind of funny when the played the first song but by the time they played the second one they were becoming boring already...the fun part was watching palpatine dance to their songs.....by the way, does anyone know where I could find a mp3 of their song "uh ah, sexy" or something like that? the star people seemed to me like the b-52s but they didnt sound like that...music was a little complex but all their lyrics talked about being from the starts and stuff like that... did anyone took pictures of the show? I would like to get some copies so please let me know. also does anyone knows what did the band played when Dr evil was on the screens? it seemed like portnoy wanted us to recognize what they were playing but I have no idea... I thought they were going to do the nightmare cinema because they played that on the soundcheck, have they done it without Derek? at least portnoy played eruption at the end of the show... thanks to all the houston jammers. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:55:48 +0100 From: "Mats Rydstrom" To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: help with MP3 shows Message-ID: Hi there! I've got two old DT shows as MP3:s, but I don't know where they are from. Or rather... both are mistakenly labelled Hampton Beach 8/4/98. I've checked out the Lines In The Sand tourography but it doesn't hold any info for this date so that can't help me. The shorter of the shows consist of: ACOS 1&2 Just Let Me Breathe Take The Time (w/ Hot For Teacher jam) Hollow Years (Mike yells "is everybody high!!!" during section after solo) Caught In A Web Lie Peruvian Skies (w/ Have A Cigar) Pull Me Under Metropolis / Learning To Live / ACOS 7 James mentions the weather/rain, and he's glad people stayed for the day. Plus he says their broadcasting via radio. What is this? Is this the Hampton Beach one from the ELP/DP tour?!? For what I know that was a headlining show, but the set's still just 1:17. It's different however, from when I saw them in LA on the last date of the tour, as I recall. The sound is alright, quite a lot of hiss, but nice drum sound, not the typical "DAT boot sound". But then, what is this?!?! ACOS 1&2 Puppies On Acid Just Let Me Breathe (Mike yells "get your fuckin ass..." during intro) New Millennium 6:00 Under A Glass Moon (with the "swing feel" thing before the 2nd verse) Hollow Years (Mike yells "we love you all!!!" during section after solo) Piano Solo (the Platypus-y one) Lines In The Sand Caught In A Web (with drum solo, no "hear the drummer get...", the end sequence x 3) Peruvian Skies (short doodle before starting, plus Have A Cigar & Enter Sandman bits) Guitar Solo (8:40 long, with Paradigm Shift etc) Pull Me Under Metropolis / Learning To Live / ACOS 7 James says something about them playing on a beach, and that's the last headlining show of the Falling Into Infinity Tour before going with ELP and DP. He says they already recorded the double live album in Europe, so this must be the US. He says it's a tuesday and Hampton Beach 8/4/98 was a tuesday. The show is 1:47 long. But in that case, what is the first one then? Where did it rain like hell on that tour, and why did James thank them for staying all that long, DT opened on the tour. I'm very confused. I'm grateful for all help on this! /Mats ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mats Rydström - Music & Technology Editor SLITZ - SCANDINAVIA'S LEADING MEN'S MAGAZINE mats.rydstrom@slitz.se - www.slitz.se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Buy More to Save More SALE @ CD Now: http://www.cdnow.com/from=sr-733163 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:58:31 +0200 From: "savas oguz" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Vey importent !!!"Claudio Guerrini" !!!! Message-ID:
HI there,
i really need you help
I will trade with that guy,"Claudio Guerrini"
who knows him ??? is he Trustable ?
I dont want to send him money to be cheated on

Thank you !







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