YTSEJAM Digest 5386 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 by email_address_removed 2) Setlist by email_address_removed (Robert Denni) 3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 by =?iso-8859-7?B?1Nzz7/Ig0OHw4evp3PI=?= 4) shay and abbott by "M P" 5) LTE by Pam Nazer 6) FII & Copyrights by "Awake ." 7) Re: Re: Setlist by Angelo Lombardi 8) Re: shay and abbott by Andrew Coutermarsh 9) Re: Re: Setlist by Brian D Hayden 10) Re: Setlist by Emre Topuzoglu 11) Re: Springsteen and DT by Andrew Coutermarsh 12) HOB Broadcast taping info.... by Brooks Edman 13) Re: shay and abbott by "Carlos A. Alfaro" 14) Top Prog Sites Award by "MichaelM" 15) Music Gear for Sale by email_address_removed 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 by email_address_removed 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 by Emre Topuzoglu 18) DALLAS concert by "Mauricio Martinez" 19) These guys are the coolest ever. by Andrew Coutermarsh 20) TSM chords / TAB? by Andrew Coutermarsh 21) Re: TSM chords / TAB? by Emre Topuzoglu 22) Chicago Show by email_address_removed 23) new HOB date . . . by "Matt J Lough" 24) State of Grace by email_address_removed 25) autumn moon by "Fran Brennan" 26) LITS site mp3 info by CyberDuke 27) Re: A Question of Theory by email_address_removed 28) Re: A Question of Theory by "Kenn de Mello" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 02:06:28 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/11/00 8:42:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << Man, PS is one of their best songs, IMHO. Probably the trippiest thing they've ever done, as well as one of the heaviest things they've ever done. And there's those cool 4/4 - 3/4 transitions that actually sound GOOD =^). With the SFAM setlist, they go through over an hour of "metal->ballad->metal->ballad etc." PS is the perfect song to play after that, because it's all dark and spooky and stuff (alright, I'll say 'pink floydish' =^). It's different. Ah well. I'll shut up now. -Banjoman >> this is one of my absolute favorites..the band i play with, this one was our first complete "cover " songs...too cool....now we have a drummer that has timing and style...we cant wait... Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 02:40:53 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed (Robert Denni) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Setlist Message-ID: I saw Bruce Springsteen, and it was a great concert. However, the difference between Bruce's style and DT's is huge. Also, maybe DT just DOESN'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR LIST FROM SHOW TO SHOW. I"m sure they have the ability to change it. And also about being more spontaneous, ITS DREAM THEATER! If I want to hear something spontaneous I go to a jazz club. Anyway, there are probably subtle changes and improvs from show to show that most people won't pick up. But I don't know for sure since I was only able to see them once. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:02:01 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-7?B?1Nzz7/Ig0OHw4evp3PI=?= To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 Message-ID: <000601bf8c0a$06bd63e0$cdc678d4@g4d0b3> Please you must unsubscribe me.I have tried what you sayd but nothing happened .Idid this thing many times.Please UNSUBSCRIBE ME.It's like a torture.Every day you send me 3 or 4 ytsejam digests.I HATE THiS.They are CRAP.Help me from this HELL. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 07:49:14 EST From: "M P" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: shay and abbott Message-ID: >In the book it says she, but James always sings Shay. he does that for a lot of his long-e words. you can put more power behind a long-a than a long-e, so this could be a conscious choice and not just an accent thing ;) >The also had a sign that said Hey Abbott while they could be referencing Abbot and Costello (source of the line), I doubt it. Check the lyrics for any phrase like 'he about' D/J - rabid A&C fan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 07:57:06 -0600 From: Pam Nazer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: LTE Message-ID: >> >> So, ... how about jammers, having listened LTE2 myself only once, I'm >> interested to hear comments - which one is better? :) I have been listening to LTE 2 alot lately. It is hard to choose a favorite, because there is so much great music on both. If I would have to pick a favorite it would be 2. Chewbacca is my favorite track, and Acid Rain is a wild ride too!! I get the feeling that on 2 they are more free and open to experimentation, hence all the jams(which I love). ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 2000 15:10:01 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FII & Copyrights Message-ID: >From: CyberDuke >Subject: FII's state of mind vs. SFAM's > >If during FII company really wanted to push them go a >lil' more mainstream, how can it be now making such a >drastic change with SFAM? My reading of it is as follows: the RC guys said to DT, "We want a radio-friendly album". DT - more specifically, probably Mr Portnoy- said "OK, but I can't see it working, man". When that prediction came true, the RC people - in a vain hope of avoiding the "I told you so" comments - just figured "Let 'em do what they want; we're shifting enough units that we're making profit, so let 'em get the hell on with it!" >From: "Dennis Bilic" >Subject: Is the Majesty symbol copyrighted???? > >Just wondering if the Dream Theater 'Majesty' symbol >(you know the one) is actually protected by any >copyright laws. Given what you want to use it for, it shouldn't make much difference. As I understand it, provided that you include a little bar that looks a little like the text of "C. 199X Dream Theater" or somesuch, and you're not actually making any profit on it, you're OK. Just don't go and do a Mike Bahr and start selling them, that's when the legalities become important. Otherwise, just go for it! ~Simon Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:17:00 -0800 From: Angelo Lombardi To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Re: Setlist Message-ID: "Gaz" or some other babbled... > If Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band can play 3-4 hours > sets each night and change their sets every night, I can't see why > DT on the present tour shuffle the second half of the set around and > or rotate a few songs. > gaz DON'T EVEN GO THERE!!! Bruce Cumstain... er... I mean Springsteen is the MOST non talented prick in the music business!!! Do NOT even compare that, that greasy thing to Dream Theater!!! Of course "he" can change sets every night... they just randomly play 3 to 4 chords anyway, just change the lyrics and you have a different song. AND, how dare you to use that thing's name in the same sentence with Dream Theater??? It's very insulting for ANY musician!!! Angelo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:54:37 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: shay and abbott Message-ID: On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, M P wrote: > >In the book it says she, but James always sings Shay. > > he does that for a lot of his long-e words. you can put more power > behind a long-a than a long-e, so this could be a conscious choice and > not just an accent thing ;) It's not even so much a power issue with a vowel like "ay" as opposed to "ee." The problem, ESPECIALLY when singing extremely high, is that (even though it's really easy to sing) the "ee" vowel is very very harsh. If he were to sing "Lifting Shadows off a DREEEEEEEEEEEEEAM" (the loud section, not the first time he sings it), everybody would be covering their ears because it would be SO much louder (at least apparently) and harsher. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "I'm not a vegetarian because I like animals. I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants." -- A. Whitney Brown ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:11:07 -0600 (CST) From: Brian D Hayden To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Re: Setlist Message-ID: LOL. If you really think this, you either have not actually heard Springsteen or you're deaf and stupid. Go listen to some of his music before you talk about him chump. :) 3-4 random chords? Pllllllllllease. -Brian On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Angelo Lombardi wrote: > > "Gaz" or some other babbled... > > > If Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band can play 3-4 hours > > sets each night and change their sets every night, I can't see why > > DT on the present tour shuffle the second half of the set around and > > or rotate a few songs. > > > gaz > > DON'T EVEN GO THERE!!! Bruce Cumstain... er... I mean Springsteen is the MOST non > talented prick in the music business!!! Do NOT even compare that, that greasy thing to > Dream Theater!!! Of course "he" can change sets every night... they just randomly play > 3 to 4 chords anyway, just change the lyrics and you have a different song. > > AND, how dare you to use that thing's name in the same sentence with Dream Theater??? > It's very insulting for ANY musician!!! > > Angelo > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:18:47 +0200 From: Emre Topuzoglu To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Setlist Message-ID: if you like bruce....then what are you doing in ytejam mailing list !!! i know bruce springsten well...my father listens to him,, you are right on that point,he makes quality music ,,not 2-3 chords but... Do NOT even compare that with DT !!!! not that much quality music he makes ! Brian D Hayden wrote: > > LOL. If you really think this, you either have not actually heard > Springsteen or you're deaf and stupid. Go listen to some of his music > before you talk about him chump. :) 3-4 random chords? Pllllllllllease. > > -Brian > > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Angelo Lombardi wrote: > > > > > "Gaz" or some other babbled... > > > > > If Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band can play 3-4 hours > > > sets each night and change their sets every night, I can't see why > > > DT on the present tour shuffle the second half of the set around and > > > or rotate a few songs. > > > > > gaz > > > > DON'T EVEN GO THERE!!! Bruce Cumstain... er... I mean Springsteen is the MOST non > > talented prick in the music business!!! Do NOT even compare that, that greasy thing to > > Dream Theater!!! Of course "he" can change sets every night... they just randomly play > > 3 to 4 chords anyway, just change the lyrics and you have a different song. > > > > AND, how dare you to use that thing's name in the same sentence with Dream Theater??? > > It's very insulting for ANY musician!!! > > > > Angelo > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:52:45 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Springsteen and DT Message-ID: On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Emre Topuzoglu wrote: > if you like bruce....then what are you doing in ytejam mailing list > !!! i know bruce springsten well...my father listens to him,, you are > right on that point,he makes quality music ,,not 2-3 chords but... Do > NOT even compare that with DT !!!! not that much quality music he > makes ! Wait a minute. Who was comparing Springsteen to DT? All he said was that he changes his setlist around - he wasn't saying anything about whether he was BETTER than DT or not. > Brian D Hayden wrote: > > > > LOL. If you really think this, you either have not actually heard > > Springsteen or you're deaf and stupid. Go listen to some of his music > > before you talk about him chump. :) 3-4 random chords? Pllllllllllease. > > > > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Angelo Lombardi wrote: > > > > > DON'T EVEN GO THERE!!! Bruce Cumstain... er... I mean Springsteen > > > is the MOST non talented prick in the music business!!! Do NOT even > > > compare that, that greasy thing to Dream Theater!!! Of course "he" > > > can change sets every night... they just randomly play 3 to 4 chords > > > anyway, just change the lyrics and you have a different song. > > > > > > AND, how dare you to use that thing's name in the same sentence with > > > Dream Theater??? > > > It's very insulting for ANY musician!!! I love how just because someone writes pop music or simpler rock than Dream Theater that they all of a sudden become a "prick". God, the closed-mindedness of some people. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Sometimes, when I would read a very good book, I would stop and thank my teacher. At least, I used to, until she got an unlisted number. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:54:24 -0500 From: Brooks Edman To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: HOB Broadcast taping info.... Message-ID: There are several ways to tape the live broadcast on HOB. The way I am doing it is I have a high speed cable connection, a tv out card, and my VCR. I will maximize the broadcast and record it on my VCR. It actually comes out really good as long as the net connection is good for the whole thing. I have done things like it in the past. If you need any more info e-mail me. I will be recording the broadcast. Brooks Edman, email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:21:45 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: shay and abbott Message-ID: Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: > It's not even so much a power issue with a vowel like "ay" as opposed to > "ee." The problem, ESPECIALLY when singing extremely high, is that (even > though it's really easy to sing) the "ee" vowel is very very harsh. If he > were to sing "Lifting Shadows off a DREEEEEEEEEEEEEAM" (the loud section, > not the first time he sings it), everybody would be covering their ears > because it would be SO much louder (at least apparently) and harsher. Definately! And also in the same way, at least to my untrained voice, its much easier to hit the note that way than to sing the ee as if you were speaking the word. I dont know if to a certain degree its a crutch, maybe Andrew could englighten us? That also happens in voices, when he says "to his knees" he prounounces "nays" ... i cant remmeber other examples, but i know there are more, since i find myself doing that for other parts since my range is much more limited than james' is... Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home Itīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:email_address_removed mailto:email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:33:46 -0000 From: "MichaelM" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Top Prog Sites Award Message-ID: <005601bf8c59$ef5a1720$effc31d4@fateswarm> Do you own a well-designed and informative progmetal website? You can apply for the ProgMetal.net "Top ProgMetal Sites" Award here: http://ProgMetal.net/award Regards, MichaelM ProgMetal.net ps.The award's main purpose is the link exchange between Epigram and the winner sites. We know ProgMetal.net is not the best site of progressive metal 2:O) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:58:35 -0600 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Music Gear for Sale Message-ID: For anyone interested, I have the following gear for sale on Ebay. Lexicon Vortex Processor http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281716408 Lexicon MPX R1 Remote MIDI Controller http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281846984 Yamaha RX Digital Rhythm Programmer http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281921246 Thanks, Richard e-mail: email_address_removed www: http://home.midsouth.rr.com/rwarren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:33:21 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/11/00 11:38:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << Second - has anyone ever been to the National Guitar Workshop, if so, how was it and was it worth the $700 to go? I got a brochure in the mail yesterday and it looks pretty cool. E-mail me privately or on the jam, whatever, I don't care. 8-)b >> I attended the workshop last year for the 'Guitar Dreams' seminar, featuring John Petrucci. It was an amazing experience. John conducted two clinics that both went into way more detail than his music store clinics. My teacher for the rest of the week was Terry Syrek an amazing and overlooked guitar player, he was a great teacher and an all around good guy. I really can't recommend the workshop enough, it's a great experience. Andy B. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:46:05 +0200 From: Emre Topuzoglu To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5385 Message-ID: ant of you guys videotaped any JP clinics ??? email_address_removed wrote: > > In a message dated 3/11/00 11:38:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: > > << Second - has anyone ever been to the National Guitar Workshop, if so, how > was it and was it worth the $700 to go? I got a brochure in the mail > yesterday and it looks pretty cool. E-mail me privately or on the jam, > whatever, I don't care. 8-)b > >> > > I attended the workshop last year for the 'Guitar Dreams' seminar, > featuring John Petrucci. It was an amazing experience. John conducted two > clinics that both went into way more detail than his music store clinics. My > teacher for the rest of the week was Terry Syrek an amazing and overlooked > guitar player, he was a great teacher and an all around good guy. > I really can't recommend the workshop enough, it's a great experience. > > Andy B. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:55:42 -0600 From: "Mauricio Martinez" To: Subject: DALLAS concert Message-ID: <012701bf8c65$553cd9a0$340a64c0@host> Well, for me and Alan it was a fucking LONG trip (and a very hard one to survive too) to see DT. We traveled nearly 12 hours straight by bus, from Monterrey, México to Dallas , TX. Arrived at a VERY CHEAP motel (that wasnīt very cheap at all), TRIED to communicate with the motel manager who happenned to be indian and could barely speak english (imagine two mexican guys trying to speak english with an indian guy, he reminded us of Apu, the quick e mart clerk from the simpsons). It was HELL. We arrived at 9am. Got ripped off by taking a cab from the bus central to the venue, and then procceeded to crash at Floraīs Motel (hey, it was almost next to the venue!). Then, it started raining VERY hard and suddenly got a little cold. We almost ate an entire pizza by ourselves, while Palpatine and Co. were waiting for theirs. Then, we started making the line at 1pm. Entered at 8:00pm. Sacrificed the front row for some merchandise. Struggled to find a good place behind someone not so tall.......then the opening band came onstage: The starpeople. I tought they were ok for the first couple of songs, but then i just got tired and wanted DT to come out already. Then, before DT came out, their roadies started to arrange the stage, and one of them (the one who was testing JPīs guitars) was constantly arguing over something with the other roadies. Then DT finally came out at 10:10pm. The show rocked, but i couldnīt hear Jordan very well (i was in front of JP and his MESA wall). James seemed frustated at times, but he sang pretty good! Instead of lowering some vocal parts, he sang them higher! Like, in finally free, the line :"Their love renewed...." To me, he was great!. MP was very pissed off about something. Just when they finished BTL, he grabbed a cymbal and threw it in the back, and didnīt come back for the most part of THE. James neither. They left Jordan and JP playing the intro over and over again and this was deviating into being a JP solo spot. Finally, somebody put a drum sequence to cover for MP, and got the song done. The cymbal was never put in its place again for the rest of the show. At one point, the screens were showing the Dr. Evil face, and MP made a joke about it (iīm sure NOBODY heard it, because there was NO response whatsoever to that joke, which caused MP to look at JP as he scratched his head like "....whatīs wrong with this people?") and started playing a song which is still a mystery to me. MP was even more pissed i think. JP and JR made a major fuck up during th begginning of finally free, but the song went great after that. Then, they played Peruvian skies (!?), and some medleys.......in the end of one of these, JP started to go nuts on his guitar (JP was the only one who seemed to be having fun throughout the show, despite all the shit that happenned) and MP started to play eruption on JPīs guitar with his hands coming out of JPīs back (iīm sure i didnīt tell this one right! somebody get it straight!). MP gave the finger to the club owners, for not letting DT play on the big stage. (Hey!, Weird Al played there yesterday!), and said they would come back in the summer. I hope the other Dallas (or texas, or mexican) jammers complment my review. A big hi to Nicole, Palpatine and Co. and all the other guys we were with on the line. Mauricio ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:10:05 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: These guys are the coolest ever. Message-ID: Last night I happened to write Jordan an email because when I get to New York, I'd like to be able to find a way to take lessons with him for composition and keyboard technique. I wasn't sure if I'd get a response, or when. But this afternoon when I checked my email, there it was: A response from Jordan, saying that when I got into the NY area that he'd love to work something out in terms of lessons, and that he'd be looking forward to hearing from me in the future. How cool is it that your musical influences can take the time out of their lives to answer private email in the interest of improving the musical lives of their fans? ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:42:13 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: TSM chords / TAB? Message-ID: I'm trying to record a cover of The Silent Man. The TAB that's on the website does a really good job of explaining everything, but there's a problem: In the chorus, it has TAB parts for A guitar, but not the rhythm stuff that's going on in the background. Does anybody have TAB parts to that rhythm part? Or would somebody be willing to scan the TAB book for Awake and send it to me? Private emails, please, and thanks in advance for anybody who is able to help me out. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:56:52 +0200 From: Emre Topuzoglu To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: TSM chords / TAB? Message-ID: i have original tab books scaned as gif`s, Andrew Coutermarsh wrote: > > I'm trying to record a cover of The Silent Man. The TAB that's on the > website does a really good job of explaining everything, but there's a > problem: In the chorus, it has TAB parts for A guitar, but not the rhythm > stuff that's going on in the background. Does anybody have TAB parts to > that rhythm part? Or would somebody be willing to scan the TAB book for > Awake and send it to me? Private emails, please, and thanks in advance > for anybody who is able to help me out. > > ------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Coutermarsh > email_address_removed > http://cout.dhs.org/ > Cloak on IRC > ICQ: 2513441 > ------------------------------------------------- > The only stupid question is the one that is never > asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about > time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, > isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, > in fact, I was speeding?" > ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:01:55 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Chicago Show Message-ID: Hey, I didn't give a review of the show, but it was awesome. Nothing anyone else hasn't written about. The band was great. The show was superior to the other two I have seen. MP was outstanding as usual. I went to meet Mike & Rob Morgenstein at Sam Ash before the show. Mike was cool & I didn't know who Rob was until the show. He is a great drummer but he really needs to keep his mouth shut every time he does a fill on the set. He was driving me nuts. I thought he was going to catch a bug in it or something. It was really annoying. I loved to watch his playing but that mouth was open all the time. Anyway, Mike did say see you later this year so I hope they will make another trip. See ya, Todd "I sit down with my son, Set to see the Crimson Sunset." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:27:50 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" To: "YTSE JAM" Subject: new HOB date . . . Message-ID: <001701bf8c7a$96458360$message_id_removed> I just got my UACM mailing, and they changed the HOB cybercast to April 1st instead of April 9th, I thought some of you would like to know. L8r. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:12:46 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: State of Grace Message-ID: Hey all - I've recently started figuring out the piano/keyboard part of State of Grace and I have a few questions to throw out there: - one- the hardest part about picking this one out is not the diffuculty at all, but in hearing the piano part clearly because the guitar is much louder and clearer. I don't have high tech equipment at all - just a stereo, a discman, and a computer. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could make this easier besides just turning the volume all the way up and trying to ignore the guitar? -two- have any of you already done the keyboard part for this song or know someone who has? Please let me know if you can help with either of these, either by email of on the jam - whichever works for you - Thanks!!! Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:20:17 PST From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: autumn moon Message-ID: Why would you want to try out Autumn Moon? It's not a DT song. It was just put on a boot by Mike Bahr because he thought it was written by KevMo. It's actually written by George Winston and is in reality called "Moon." It's on his Autumn album, hence the title "Autumn Moon." :) If you already knew this and still want it, you can find it on that CD. Well, don't I feel dumb =^) -Fran/Banjoman ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 02:44:42 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: Ytsejam Subject: LITS site mp3 info Message-ID: LOLOL, what is that WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE mp3 on there? Who is singing and who the hell is those screaming funny vocals? :))))) Gotta know this. The solo is perfectly ripped off original Richie's solo. Bravo Petrucci ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:01:38 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: A Question of Theory Message-ID: Greetings All I am sill new to the list, so I will try to pose this question appropriately. I am a musician of sorts, but unlike most on this list (assumption ) I have always played "by ear" My question would be ... How important is theory? I would like to learn more about it,but as it is I don't have time for lessons. Any suggestions for reading or sites about music theory would be appreciated greatly. Also does anyone else like Mullmuzzler? Thanx. Billy "Mullmuzzler- One who silences an individual's thought before it can be expressed in any manner" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:38:39 -0500 From: "Kenn de Mello" To: Subject: Re: A Question of Theory Message-ID: <000b01bf8c95$3d10f340$message_id_removed> > I am a musician of sorts, but unlike most on this list (assumption ) I > have always played "by ear" > My question would be ... How important is theory? I would like to learn > more about it,but as it is I don't have time for lessons. Any > suggestions for reading or sites about music theory would be > appreciated greatly. > Also does anyone else like Mullmuzzler? > > Thanx. > Billy There was mention about theory not too long ago on the jam. I think the resounding answer about theory was: it is beneficial when songwriting so that you know if things are going to go smoothly and as a guide to harmonization and all that stuff, BUT it in no way makes you more creative or helps you come up with music. IMO it is a very nice thing to know about, but I ignore it sometimes when I am just noodling around on my guitar or keyboard. If I come up with something I like I look at and analyze it to see what I was actually doing. This way I could possibly come up with other parts, say guitar II, or keyboard chords. I searched quickly and found the following link http://www.musictheory.halifax.ns.ca/ hopefully you will find this somewhat informative. I haven't looked at it at all personally. Kenn. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5386 **************************