YTSEJAM Digest 5353 Today's Topics: 1) when elders return by email_address_removed 2) lorenza ponce by email_address_removed 3) ROSELAND!!!!!! by Al Balkiewicz 4) Roseland last night, SFaM review, etc etc etc. by Dan Costello 5) FW: Euro tour tickets by email_address_removed.au 6) All Ages? You Know What to do... by Matt Johnston 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351 by "Adam Yarter" 8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351 by "Adam Yarter" 9) DVD by Joe DeAngelo 10) Re: Mike and Rod Appearences by Joel Timmins 11) Philly show review by "Tim Detman" 12) oh fuck!!! by Digital Man 13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351 by mikel 14) happy birthday by "Dale R. Newberry" 15) A new website by "A_Change Of_Seasons" 16) QR tribute by email_address_removed 17) stratojen-ndtc by "Trevor W. Hoit" 18) Chiaroscuro by "Trevor W. Hoit" 19) Put Brain in gear, please, Mosh by "Awake ." 20) Re:YTSEJAM digest 5347 by "Awake ." 21) Order new Strato from boxman.fi, cheap! by O-P Komonen 22) RE: 21st Century Fox by "Herbert, Jason" 23) Update at Jon Finn's site by Jon Parmet 24) All-ages shows. by "Steve Graham" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:21:54 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu Subject: when elders return Message-ID: > From: Andrew Coutermarsh > Subject: Re: backstreet milla wisha merlo > > Bafu?! In total bafflement, I looked through my archives and came up with > two message in the past month: This one, and one yesterday. When the hell > did you resub? Nice to see you again! As part of a massive mind-control operation orchestrated by Mike Portnoy, several of the Ytsejam old-timers have resubscribed in recent weeks. I felt the Quickening as did the others. It's a subconscious thing. We are powerless to resist. :) Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:28:52 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, jjens@webzone.net Subject: lorenza ponce Message-ID: > From: jOHN jENS > Subject: taping and tapping > > i twisted his arm at the DC show. BV: how's the Ponce cd? Very ethereal, and nothing like the classical solo she did onstage. Like she said when she signed it, "It's music to smoke pot to." I found out AFTER the concession stand had closed that she also plays on the Star People cd, even though she isn't pictured on the back with the rest of the band. And my arm still hurts from when you twisted it. Did you learn that move from Jake "The Snake" Roberts?? Bafu Vai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: Al Balkiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: ROSELAND!!!!!! Message-ID: My first DT show since the first leg of the FII tour. Some thoughts: - Holy crap! There were a shitload of people there! Very cool....unfortunately my douchebag friend got to my house late, so I wound up missing everything up to Cruise Control by the Dregs. At least I didn't have to wait in line that long...... - My friend got a photo pass for the show, and he took about 100 or so shots during the beginning of the show. Once he gets them done, I'll post the link up to everyone here, along with a review of the show..... - I'm sorry I missed everyone from the 'Jam. I was lucky enough to bump into YtseJim though, so my streak of meeting Jammers at every show I've been to is still running strong..... I wound up watching DT at soundboard level along the left-hand side. Not bad at all. I'm kinda short, so the goddamn tree-people who always wind up in front of me kinda made it suck every once in a while, but I was able to move around and see everything. Plus, it gave my calves a good workout. - The sound was phenomal - best for a show that I've seen. Everyone, including James, was dead-on-balls accurate. Killer killer show. - Rumors were flying that Chris Jericho (WWF Intercontinental Champion) was going to be at the show (he mentioned it on his website as well). YtseJim told me he was at the bar, and I missed him by minutes. Anyway, I'm watching DT, and my friend goes, "Hey, I think that's Jericho up there". Sure enough, in the balcony on the left-hand side, Y2J himself goin' absolutely apeshit on the airdrums throughout the entire show (and not a bad job either!). Very very cool to see a pretty famous person enjoying the show, clapping along with the band, looking over to see the crowd reaction to the show....... That's basically it. I wish I was able to meet more of the Jammers (I was lookin' for ya, D-man)......next time, I'll try and get all the people coming with me to get their own damn tix! Later, Al ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:30:25 -0500 From: Dan Costello To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Roseland last night, SFaM review, etc etc etc. Message-ID: Never heard the Dregs before - all I gotta say is DAMN!!! >> That song thatsounded like some blue grass was insane! >> > It's called 'the bash', and it's a medly of two bluegrass standards: The > Wabash Cannonball and Rocky Top Dude, the Dregs ROCK!! The closest thing I've ever heard to any of their music is Steve Morse's version of "Joy to the World" on Merry Axemas vol. 1. That "The Bash" song was fuckin' cool! And "Cruise Control" at the end was absolutely amazing. During "The Bash," there were these two pretty boy wooses in front of me looking at each other like "how queer is it that they're playing bluegrass." (now, that really gets me, let's go to a prog metal show and completely dis the opening band's musicianship) I loved it - I could have watched the Dregs all night. I'd drive six hours again to see them play in a heartbeat. > -Banjoman wonders if there could possibly be ANOTHER bluegrass fan on > this list =^) I like instrumental bluegrass. I can't take that nasal singing, though. I must echo previous posters: both Steve Morse's personality and musicianship on stage were amazing. Great guitarist and very humble and appreciative of the fans and DT. I got to meet Rod Morgenstein out back after the show; he, too was a very, very likable guy. The first thing he did was shake everybody's hand and take pics with everybody. The only bad thing about their set, which was an extremely minor thing, was the two boobs manning the spotlights. Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could have done a better job. (oh, gee, let's take the spotlight off somebody just as they being their solo - duh!) But the band more than made up for it. > Well, I read that review posted on the net, and I am not shocked at all. > Niether am I mad. That sets me apart from the > morons who listen to Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys. I welcome that. > I'm sure some of my fellow Jammers will agree. Yes, definitely. Whereas they are reduced to mindlessly bobbing along with cheap, perfunctory music with little or no musical structural integrity, we fans of Dream Theater not only have the mental capacity to comprehend and appreciate a complex, grandiose piece of music in its entirety, but also to break down that composition and scrutinize every minute detail with exacting precision in order to realize an even greater appreciation for it. > I hate it even more when a truly great song is ignored by > the masses simply because most people like simple catchy tunes to > rotate torsos by... DANCING: A vertical expression of horizontal desires. Rotating torsoes? That was about the only redeeming quality of the Star People's stage show. There music was ok; the violin player chick was pretty good (and she was hot, too!) I don't know whose hand was rubbing against my butt the whole night, but I'm allowing myself to believe it was hers. :-) >* They sold out the Roseland. Great for DT, crappy for us. Can > anyone say Birch Hill? Guys, it's time to start playing venues with > seats. I think they could probably fill the Beacon now. My back > and my knees are still going "Hey, what the fuck?" four hours after > leaving the place. HAHA! You wanna talk about a backache? I'm 6'5" tall and rode 6 hours in a Subaru Loyale (pint-sized 4-wheel drive rust bucket), parked right behind the venue, then my dad says "Hey, let's walk to Grand Central Station and see the newly refurbished ceiling." What he didn't bother to tell me was that it was 30 blocks round trip - (that we managed to pull off in an hour and still get back in time to see the Star People). Thank GOD they had those benches on the side. >> I mean, some people like cars simply because they are red, not >> because they have a 400hp engine in them. > >I like cars that can go back in time and leave flaming tire-tracks. The >ability to press "turbo boost" and jump over canyons means little to me. ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGAWATTS!!!!! :-) Ok, time for a DT review: My raves about the show: The video was good (except for the text) Lighting was good. Sound was great. James was, to quote Marissa Tomei in My Cousin Vinnie, "Dead balls on" DT rocks! What more can you say? My bitching about the show: It wouldv'e been nice of they had played a little longer. I also wasn't overly thrilled when I waited out back in the cold for over an hour just to have JP blow off the entire crowd. He looked absolutely terrified of all 30 of us. (anybody know what was going on?) Then Rod Morgenstein came out - got to meet him (very nice guy), which is when I realized that my camera had crapped out royally, so I'll just wait and see how many pics develop. (If anybody was near the front left of the stage during DT, I was the really tall guy in the grey sweatshirt hopelessly beating the crap out of his camera trying to get it to work) I was gonna hang around and try to meet the whole band, but after JP took off and my camera died, I figured the hell with it and went home. Did anybody else get to meet them? If so, how many did you meet and how polite were they? I inadvertently got in the "guest list" line at first. (I thought it was kind of funny that only about 100 people sold out the show - until I realized that the line on the corner was NOT for a different show down the road) Aside from personally knowing the band, how does one go about getting on the guest list? At the end of the show, James said that he'd "see us this summer"... anybody know of an extended tour??? oooooo......... -Dan. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:13:42 +1100 From: email_address_removed.au To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FW: Euro tour tickets Message-ID: >Despite my lengthy post giving numerous links to websites for just about every country on DT's European tour Marie Donnell still posted the following: Hey! No need to get upset :( I just dont always have time at work to read every single entry on the ytsejam or search the web for that matter! I only have the internet at work. I was just simply asking for some help, sorry to be any hassle :( Thanx for the info! Marie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:35:37 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: All Ages? You Know What to do... Message-ID: > Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages > shows. There was a group of about 6 15 year olds behind me. One of > the guys, I swear to Christ, had more equipment to smoke his pot > than I do to play bass. And one of the little girls kept screaming > in my ear, but at all the wrong times. During the quiet parts, it > was either this bitch screaming (Crim fans: think of that noise at > the beginning of LTIA2), or talking overly loud with her little > friends. I was tempted at numerous times to turn around and slap > her in the mouth. See, this is sad... just becuase *you've* forgotten what to do with a 15-year-old girl doesn't mean the rest of us have. i say let there be all-ages show! 15 and under Girl's section next to the 40+ Men's section. Then everybody wins. --Matt ("the best thing about dating a 12-year old is that if you pull their hair back in the shower, they look 10") PS: And if this didn't offend anybody, I'm unsubbing. ^_^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:01:00 -0800 From: "Adam Yarter" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351 Message-ID: <001101bf8198$1ac20c00$7223fea9@adamyart> * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages shows. That's real nice -- I'm 17 - should I not be able to go to see Dream Theater? Fact of the matter is, I was more into it than at least half of the older people there. That's just wrong. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:05:15 -0800 From: "Adam Yarter" To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351 Message-ID: <001201bf8198$a4ea64e0$7223fea9@adamyart> In response to Labrie fucking up his voice because he shouldn't be singing tenor, I actually think that you're wrong. The reason I think this is because when I spoke to him last, he had about the same voice tone as I. I'm a second tenor, borderline Baritone. However, I can still sing the "healthy A" that you were talking about, and still make my way up to the High E in "Under a Glass Moon" and "Take the time", and even up to the high F ( 3 lines above the staff) harmony during the "woah.. wooah woah" part after the solo in Learning to Live, Granted, that's a tough note, but with good technique it's fine. Most of Dream Theater's stuff lies in my vocal range, and I have a very similar voice to Labrie. So.. This is just to say he might NOT be damaging his voice.. Latez.. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:02:52 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo To: YTSEJAM Subject: DVD Message-ID: Ian said: > *Note to EastWest - tape this tour, and release it on DVD NOW!...DT deserves > it, and we'd buy it!* Hell yeah, I'd absolutely love to see a "Metropolis 2000" DVD. Damn that would rule! - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:45:26 -0500 From: Joel Timmins To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mike and Rod Appearences Message-ID: At the Sam Ash in King of Prussia (near Philly) it was a signing, not a clinic. Mike and Rod sitting at a table with a long line of people in front of them. People had drumheads, CD booklets (covers?...whatever you call them), t-shirts, etc. And I'll throw in that both Mike and Rod were very friendly and very cool to meet. :) Joel >When Mike and Rod go to the music stores, are they holding a clinic >or just signing stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:48:38 -0500 From: "Tim Detman" To: "Ytsejam@Torchsong. Com" Subject: Philly show review Message-ID: ok, this isn't your average reivew. my friend, an english major decided to waste some time and write this. we were at the show friday night in philly. i found this interesting enough to post on the jam. so if you wish to contact him about his viewpoints his email is: email_address_removed here's his images and words: Words. Mere words cannot begin to describe the jumbled and immaculate emotions having, what seems to be, Marti Gras in my head, the vibrations that race their course from my toes to what's left of my hair (damn the Army)... These are a few of my fav-o-rite THINGSSS!! (as song in Sound of Music without that doe-female deer crap) I will but try and communicate the various feelings and ideas that bombarded me like the U.S over Nazi Germany, 1944. The tools I have to work with, these pathetic insturments of language are a hinderance instead of help. However, I am am English Major. I will use what's been provided. I was trained for this. There is something I would care to address before anything else, and that is the use of "themes" throughout the show. There were various "themes" directed towards yours truly, and may have a direct effect on him for the rest of his life. There was, for example, the ever-present theme of "Things rubbing against Josh's legs and buttocks." This was one of the more disturbing themes of the night. This, coupled with the theme of "Josh not being able to look down and see anything but blackness beyond his shoulders" led to a very uneasy and an unwarranted-promiscuos persona to settle over Josh. Ideas flowed like the Niagra river of what these "rubbing things" may be, and like the Niagra river came crashing down when Josh realized it was not, indeed, a cute blonde. Again, to address another theme there was a rather large supply of popel who were disproportional to eachother. These poeple suddenly decided to mate during the show. Josh was not sure what inspired this, although he did find John Pertucchi a "butt kicking, note smashing, bring-on-the-90's bands-and-let-me-musically-rape-them HERO," this was not cause to begin fornication of any kind. This is coming from THE Fornicator, an expert in all forms and styles of promiscuity. Not that he's proud of this... Ahem. Anyway, to move on there was a theme of stupidity. This is the kind of stupidity that runs genetically and the only hope for a cure would be to gather all the carries of such genes, put them in a pool, and throw in a toaster. I met a "carrier" of such a gene in the middle of the audience. He, with his 8' tall frame, and his (maybe, if she stretched) 4'7 girlfriend tried to work their way to the front of the stage through one thousand insubordiante, rebellious, hot, sweaty, good looking (me) DT fans. I now refer back to the disproprtional people and sexual acts thesis of before. They, being the infected carriers of stupidity tried to do this by going UP THE MIDDLE of the entire crowd. All the while, this gargantuan hippie who wouldn't defend his country if Russia invaded, questions democracy, thinks Regan was bad for America, and probably abhors of all types of capatilism (which is probably why he smelled so bad), repeats time and time again over a crowd of ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE who now all have produced rope and are tying nousses, "My girlfreind can't see...can you see yet Honey?? Cay you?? She can't see...excuse me." I felt sorry becasue he couldn't help who he was and why he was born with such a dehibilitating disease such as stupidity, and directed him to get the hell off my shoe and over near the exit sign where he might be able to get up front (yeah right). There are many more themes such as: John P. kicking butt Jordan wailing on a keyboard (HOW?? It's a keyboard!!) John M. being oblivios to everything going on around him while obviuously trying to give life to is bass guitar by creating electricity through the rapid movements of his fingers an injecting it into the base of the bass (yes, that word play was intended, and I don't care if it was hookey. Shutup.) James singing. He was okay. Mike Portnoy pretending his set was actually an antique hot rod and engaging in, what must've been, 85-95 mph sprints down Rt. 66. Also making faces at the crowd and spitting water on the lead singer. That was funny. These themes will be addressed in deatil later whn Thommy actually writes me back, proving that there is a God. Josh "needs a new nickname" Albins email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:19:13 -0500 (EST) From: Digital Man To: ytsejam@torchsong.com (Ytse Love-In) Subject: oh fuck!!! Message-ID: I can't freakin' believe that I forgot to mention On The Leading Edge of Dave Plotkin in my post! A million apologies, dude! (And the guy stood right next to me the whole show. I think I must have that... what's it called? Oh, yeah, short term memory loss.) Crap, back to work tomorrow. :( -d "uhhh... uhhh... oh, yeah!" man ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:27:02 +1100 From: mikel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5351 Message-ID: > Russia and eastern Europe seem to have turned out some of the > most interestng composers from the past century. My most > recent purchase in the classical vein was Stravinsky 'Firebird' / > Scriabin 'Prometheus'. Holst's planets are also pretty good songs. I don't get it with debussy though. I can understand he made progress with using different harmonys (chords built on 4ths and whatever), but I thought the original reason people didnt use them was because they sounded bad. Anyways. He does better than I could do. > > * Please, please, p l e a s e, PLEASE, do *not* play any more all-ages > > shows. Thats funny I thought the idea of over age shows was to protect the YOUNG people from the OLDER people. You poor old man (maybe next time just wait till the video comes out and then you can enjoy the concert in the comfort of your living room). Last time I checked DT was a rock band, not the symphony orchestra. > Go ahead, call me a snob.. But I think we are the enlightened ones. > Most people never listen deeply enough to grasp the depth of a well > written song. I don't believe they make the connection between a well > written lyrics and the emotional reflections of a skilled musician.... I dont think this is true at all. In fact I think many prog fans start to lose sight of the pure emotion of a song and instead find joy in analysing music. > When you ask the average person what emotion a particular song > invokes, they look at you like you're retarded. I dont think this happens. > I just don't understand how some people can get all warm and fuzzy > over lyrics alone. Particularly when the singer/musician is more concerned > with how cool he looks rather than focusing on making MUSIC. This was one of the things the grunge movement was all about. Whilst they didnt get round to focusing much on music, they did put a lot of effort into creating lyrics that mean something and got away from trendy dudes singing about chicks and cars. > out of this. Plus, remember, DT used him before he worked for Ricky "fake > latin music" Martin. Man, seeing people like Ricky Martin, makes me > realize that the popular music machine has infiltrated almost every style > of music out there. I think some of you should lay off Ricky a bit. He has actually been around for 15 years or something, making the music he makes. Its always been his goal to bring latin music to the masses, an honorable goal i think, and he has done it well. I think it is more the fault of the masses who need latin music to be sung by a sex symbol and have a techno beat before they accept it. > << * Kevin never took a keyboard solo. And the only things that were > ever close didn't have a sequenced rhythm track. I don't like that > gay carnival-music break in TDOE to begin with, but to turn it into > a 5 minute keyboard wank fest absolutely ruined it for me. Jordan's > more technically impressive than just about any keyboardist I've > ever seen (and I knew I felt that way seeing RMP open for DT 4 years > ago), but there's a time and a place, you know? >> I say go for it Jordan. Listening to the bootlegs I thought his solo was awsome. Besides he is a new member to the band and many people going to concert wouldnt be internet/information nerds like us- many people might want to see his chops and creativity in action. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:11:35 -0600 From: "Dale R. Newberry" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Rob Doyle , Subject: happy birthday Message-ID: Just sending out a little (almost belated in a way) happy birthday to Adrian Smith of Iron Maiden who turns 43 today :). Dale R. Newberry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:07:43 CST From: "A_Change Of_Seasons" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: A new website Message-ID: Hello Fellow Jammers! I would like to announce my new website dedicated to Dream Theater. Please have a look. any feedback would be gratefully accepted at: Thank you poj ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:36:43 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: QR tribute Message-ID: Has anyone heard of a Queensrych tribute album? I heard something about it and was wondering if it's any good. For that matter, does anyone recommend the DT one? I haven't read too many endorsements on here about it. -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:20:50 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: stratojen-ndtc Message-ID: 1. FYI, Statovarius-Infinite is now available for pre-order at CDNow for $11.99 Grab a coupon and order one or two. coupons: http://i.am/deardeer or http://www.stormloader.com/deardeer http://finditnow.8m.com/ http://cdshopper.cjb.net 2. Does anyone else have Stratovarius-The Chosen Ones? It's a greatest hits cd. On the last track, Will the Sun Rise, the sound cuts off at 1:47, but the cd keeps playing until the supposed end of the song at 5:17. It is annoying, but it's not that big a deal because I have WtSR? on Episode. I was just wondering if anyone else's cd did that. 3. I finally got The Johannson Brothers cd. It's got some cool stuff on it. Vocal songs, instrumentals, some with just drums and keys ala RMP. Also, a sweet cover of the Beach Boys Good Vibrations, complete with double bass drum a and Hammond solo. It also got me thinking that "exitations" is not a word. ~Trevor might listen to BSB if they did everything acapella and he never had to look at them. Did I say that out loud? :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:39:45 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'Ytsejam'" Subject: Chiaroscuro Message-ID: So I went to see them at a little bar north of Seattle and there were not very many people there. Mostly just friends and family of the three bands playing. I wore my DT-SFaM shirt (Thanks Deb!) which started several conversations. FYI, Chiaroscuro sounds kind of like a DT/NIN mix, with James-like vocals, two keyboardists, 7-sting guitar, 6-string bass, double-bass drums (well one drum, but with that pedal that makes it sound like two) etc. They put on a great show for the half dozen people that were there. Apparently, I was the first fans of thiers that wasn't family or friends. They asked where I got the cd and I told them moremetal.com and they said "so you're the one that bought it!" like they'd only sold one or something. :) Anyway, they are playing again on the 31st in Seattle. Trevor likes this band, but will stop talking so much about them so I will not become ostracized like a certain person overhyping a little band of Italian youngsters. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 2000 11:16:24 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Put Brain in gear, please, Mosh Message-ID: >From: email_address_removed (Dr. Mosh) >Subject: Re: Websites, MP, UaGM, Petrucci rack <> > >If you weren't such an idiot you'd just turn >your MIDI volume down. If you weren't such an overhasty idiot, you'd read the post you were replying to before hitting the "balls in blender" button. I don't have any problem with MIDI sound being available, I just hate it when people set it up to start playing automatically, becasue when I'm at computers in the learning centre here, they won't play MIDI sound. Instead they click and whine for ten minutes, and frequently crash completely. Read, think, THEN flame if necessary, Mosh. Not the other way around. ~Simon Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 2000 11:31:26 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:YTSEJAM digest 5347 Message-ID: >From: Linus Akesson >Subject: Re: A pair of dice & ACOS >Please tell me more. How is ACOS one song, >while SFAM is several? Because I That's pretty simple, really - ACoS was written as one coherent piece of music (although they then expanded it a little). I wouldn't refer to it as a song, really, it's a piece of music (same with TOT; LiTS is a song, just a long one) >I thought that was a particularly clever song, >seeing as in met1 he was blinded by a paradise >and in sfam they reveal that he was a drinker >and a compulsive gambler.. very fitting... Err...That was in ACoS, not Met1. ~Simon Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:37:53 +0200 From: O-P Komonen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Order new Strato from boxman.fi, cheap! Message-ID: Stratovarius - infinite Box (2CD) 69 FIM on www.boxman.fi (this won't help you much unless you live in Finland but anyways. :) op777 Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Kevin Madden ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:24:33 -0500 From: "Herbert, Jason" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: 21st Century Fox Message-ID: <6D70903196D4D11190680008C728A61D026B1DED@HQEXS01> Has anyone who watches Futurama noticed that the logo at the end is for _30th_ Century Fox? Zircon the Blue >> I've often wondered, >> too, how much it would cost to purchase the Trademark for 21st Century >> Fox, just to piss of the company and make them pay me big bucks for it. > >Actually, I read somewhere that they had already bought the >trademark on that, just in case. > >Dunno about Century 22 Real Estate though. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:39:02 +0000 From: Jon Parmet To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Update at Jon Finn's site Message-ID: http://www.jonfinn.com/gigs.html Seems like he's all over the place over the next month or so. German jammers should try and check out Muzikmesse in Frankfurt. Between Finn, DT and Vanden Plas, Deutschland is looking pretty good in the month of April! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:43:18 -0500 From: "Steve Graham" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: All-ages shows. Message-ID: Hello everyone. This is my first post to the 'Jam. I've been a member for about 2 years = now and a DT fan since '92. I've been reading the posts regarding = underage attendance and want my opinion known about this issue. I saw my = first DT show when I was 20 in Providence, at the tail-end of the Awake = tour. This was the show that made me realize how awesome DT is, and = consequently, I've been to 5 shows since then, including the show last = week at Toad's. As all of you may or may not know, Toad's keeps the = underage from the overage by putting up a net to separate the two groups. = I found that I was just as annoyed by 30-year -olds pushing there way = around and being loud, obnoxious, and downright rude during the show. = Bottom Line: I think your going to experience annoying people at any = given show no matter what their age. I think expanding DT's younger fan-base is vital to their future success. = Had my first show been an over-21-only show, I may not be the DT fan that = I am today. I know it sound s corny, but I speak the truth. Just my = opinion. Let me know what you all think. Later, -Steve Graham ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5353 **************************