YTSEJAM Digest 5343 Today's Topics: 1) Giant by email_address_removed 2) Re: Santana by Brian Hayden 3) Re: Re DT/Zep by Brian Hayden 4) Re: new prog stuff? by "gaz" 5) Re: tnt (non dt-related, sorry) :( by "gaz" 6) Re: DT/Zep by Adam Pye 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5342 by "James Garrett" 8) Re: Definitive DT song / Definitive Simpsons Quote by Brad Plumb 9) Re: Dream Theater show review by Adam Pye 10) Re: Does Baltimore sucks? by "Matt J Lough" 11) TNT, Santana, no DTC... by "Paul Evans" 12) Re: DT/Zep by Adam Pye 13) Re: On the subject of Homerian delights... by Brad Plumb 14) Re: DT/Zep by Brian Hayden 15) Re: new prog stuff by email_address_removed 16) Re: new prog stuff by Brian Hayden 17) Re: Dallas DT show by Glen Brooks 18) Re: ACOS by email_address_removed 19) Re: Pantera sighting by email_address_removed 20) Re: On the subject of Homerian delights... by Robert Muise 21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5342 by email_address_removed 22) Re: Other Theaters of the non-Dream variety by Wes Foll 23) DT @ Toads by Teresa 24) Re: Santana by "heather jackson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:05:56 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Giant Message-ID: So....with all of this talk of Giant, I listened to the CD again for the first time in a few years. This is some kickass shit! Does anybody even remember what happened to enthusiasm in music? Sean Money For The Toll ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:16:34 -0600 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: Santana Message-ID: And for everyone who's hacking on Black Magic Woman, that's not even a Santana song for god's sake, it's Fleetwood Mac. Santana just covered it to be the single. Talk about the guy's own music if you're going to criticize him. This shows that most of you obviously don't know what you're talking about. -Brian -- Life is 10 percent what you make it and 90 percent how you take it. -Irving Berlin > From: WB Henderson > Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:53:05 -0800 (PST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Santana > > > Wasn't it less than a month ago that this love/hate Santana thread > pummelled its way through the Ytsejam? Why start it up again when it was > just made abundantly clear what a futile waste of time it is? Agree to > disagree, folks. > > In other news, DT's in Philly tomorrow. Yee-haw! > > Brian > > [NP...Ween -- Chocolate and Cheese] > > ================================== > Name: WB Henderson > E-mail: email_address_removed > WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com > Automaton Hit Parade (progrock radio): > http://www.millersville.edu/~wixq/Automaton > ================================== > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:29:55 -0600 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: Re DT/Zep Message-ID: >>> Personally, I think DT's version sounds a lot bluesier than Zep's. >> >> Well then I'm gonna guess that you don't listen to much blues because this >> is the most foolish thing I've heard in a long, long time. > > Wow, what a great argument. you've really put me in my place this time. > > I think most blues musicians would guess that YOU don't listen to much > blues, if you think Led Zep sounds like good blues to you. I think you're completely wrong, but that's also completely irrelevant. The point is whether DT is "bluesier" on that song than Zep, and to anyone who listens to the blues, there's an obvious answer: NO. It's much too straight-laced, a wooden performance. It doesn't have that free and easy sound which is the trademark of good blues. You may think that Zep is more sloppy than free and easy (and you have your right to your opinion, even if once again I think it's stupid), but there's no question that they come closer to the feel than DT. No question at all. > It's true that I am not "into" blues. I have, however gone to MANY blues > shows, seen probably in the hundreds of different blues bands/artists. > None of them have ever been nearly as sloppy as LZ in on that song. Listen to *real* blues, the old stuff with Robert Johnson or Sonny Boy, Little Walter, folks like that. They were always, especially Johnson, right on that edge of flying off the handle, which I think is a feel that Zep captured very well in their overt blues songs. Zep only sounds sloppier because they're louder, I think. > like it). It seems a little - no, a LOT - too rehearsed, and the solos > are not very melodic, and as I already said, they take it a little fast > for my tastes, but the ensemble is just better, IMO. And James kicks > Robert Plant's ass all over. :) James, technically, has a better voice. No question. James, also, on that song, does not capture the feel. He's just randomly wailing, it's bs. Plant wails on it quite a bit, but it's calculated at certain points to build tension in the song. Now, you were talking about the live version originally, and you have need to remember on that one that it was the last show of a long tour, the band were worn down. They had been on the road for pretty much 5 years straight, I think you need to give 'em a break for that. -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:26:23 +1100 From: "gaz" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: new prog stuff? Message-ID: > Vivian Campbell played for Dio in the mid-eighties. Then he went on > Whitesnake in 1987-88. Eventually taking over the role as second > guitarist for Def Leppard (replacing Steve Clark) in 1992-Present. He also played and produced The Riverdogs self titled debut album in 1990. Very different to anything he's ever done. A very 'earthy' hard rock sound, that IMO is a classic. gaz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:26:23 +1100 From: "gaz" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: tnt (non dt-related, sorry) :( Message-ID: > Damn! I used to have one of their tapes, too. Knights of the New > Thunder. :) Damn straight, their guitar player kicks ass. :) From > the look of things on CDNow, they're still releasing albums, too. > hehehehe. I need to look into that... -- KorgX3 tells no tales. NP: > Giant - Last of the Runaways Indeed they still are making albums, with 'Transistor' being their most recent. None of their recent stuff match 'Tell No Tales'. Tony Harnell also recorded one album called 'Westworld' which wasn't too bad at all (samples at CDmaybe) gaz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:40:19 -0500 From: Adam Pye To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT/Zep Message-ID: At 10:07 AM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: >Personally, I think DT's version sounds a lot bluesier than Zep's. I'd put >Zep's in a trash can. :) Just out of curiousity, were you listening to the original album version of SIBLY, or a live version? If you listen to DT's version you can tell they're trying to do it exactly like the album version (especially James). Everything, even Plant's screams, are done just like the original. The only obvious exception is Petrucci's guitar solo which ends, as it does all too often, with an unnecessary flurry of notes. Zep's live versions were mostly improv'd over the basic progression - it's one of their most-jammed-on songs. Zep, unlike DT, improvised a lot on stage so most Zep live versions aren't going to sound exactly like the album version (thankfully, and again, unlike DT). I find it extremely rare that a cover is better than the original, and this is no exception. Adam _________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:49:50 -0800 From: "James Garrett" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5342 Message-ID: I saw Bunny Brunel at the Roxy in L.A. while he was opening up for "Banned from Utopia" (ex Zappa guys doing original music and Zappa covers). I liked it very much. He's an excellent jazz bassist who is now starting to explore music with a harder edge. At the time he had John Wackerman (this is in fact Chad's little brother; BTW Chad was playing drums for Banned that night), a keyboardist and a guitarist--although I can't remember who they were. Lot's of jamming, no singing, but an interesting sound. Whether or not it's prog, I don't know. I thought it was closer to a jazz/rock fusion than progressive. His web site: www.bunnybrunel.com (surprise) Hope this helps. James Garrett In reponse to a post by CyberDuke : >I have a CARVIN magazine here and looked at CDs they have in it. >Now there is some instructional video bass school from a dude named >BUNNY BRUNEL. At the CDs section there is his album called "LA Zoo". The >text below: > >Bunny Brunel's "LA Zoo", "The hot new progressive rock album", features >Bunny on bass, along with Vivian Campbell on guitar, Brian Auger on >keyboards and John Wackerman on drums, with special guest appearances by >Ray Gomez and Mike Stern. > >What's the deal with this, it sounds quite interesting? "The hot new >progressive rock album" - gee. :) >Vivan Campbell sounds VERY familiar but can't recall ... Jon Wackerman, >maybe related to the drums god Chad Wackerman. :) And just look at that >guest - Mike Stern!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:03:50 -0600 From: Brad Plumb To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Definitive DT song / Definitive Simpsons Quote Message-ID: >How can you people forget the greatest Simpson's episode of all time, when >Homer makes the deal wtih the Devil (Flanders)? The two greatest quotes from >the entire show come from this episode: > >"Mmm... forbidden donut..." > >and > >"Homer, stop eating yourself!!" >"Oh!! But I'm so sweet and tasty!!!" > You forgot the one from the out-takes: Bart: hmm... that looks really good.. I might just sell my soul for that... Satan: yyyyeesss? Bart: nnnaahh.. never mind Satan: drat *poof* Bart: Hey! a comic book, I so wish I could have it Satan: That can be arranged! Bart: on second thought.... nah Marge: Bart! Stop pestering Satan! or something to that effect. Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the opportunity." -Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:49:34 -0500 From: Adam Pye To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater show review Message-ID: At 10:07 AM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: >oh my! Thought I was alone in liking WSP. Just got three words for ya > >HOUSER! HOUSER! HOUSER! > >Travel Light, >Gregory Hehe. I'm not going to start a debate on Widespread Panic here, but I think Houser is actually the weak link in that band. However, it's great to see another Panic fan taking in Dream Theater (or vice versa). Barstools and Dreamers... Adam _________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:48:30 -0500 From: "Matt J Lough" To: Subject: Re: Does Baltimore sucks? Message-ID: <001701bf7f19$45a4c740$message_id_removed> Baltimore doesn't suck for one. Two, Recher sucks compared to Bohager's. Granted the Recher is a neat place to hang out and get drunk and all, but the accoustics aren't really that great for DT. I'm actually a bit more excited seeing them at Bohager's, only because it's a more intimate feel. Recher took the place of Bohager's on the IMP production's list when Bohager's bought out Parrot Island. It used to be linked w/ Fletcher's, the 9.30 club, and another club (i can't remember the name). But Recher is mainly for local acts (i.e. Kelly Bell, Laughing Colors, All Mighty Senators). But anyway, the show should still rock. The reason that there were 350 tixx left for Recher, is because it's out in Towson, and a lot people in Baltimore don't know much about music. That's why the local acts never seem to get noticed. But anyway, any jammers going to the show, let me know, we could all hookup somewhere. I'm out. Peace. ----- Original Message ----- ]From: I-Man To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: Does Baltimore sucks? > > Man I am now bummed. I just got the announcement that the DT show has been > moved from the Recher Theater in Towson to Bohager's in B'More. Now I am > just speculating here but, I am assuming that it was moved because the > tickets to the Recher were not selling (still 350 available when I bought > mine last week) and Bohager's is smaller. It's a freakin' club for crissake! > Does anyone know the real reason behind the move? > > I was really looking forward to seeing OFB at the Recher because I had heard > that it was a converted movie theater that had great acoustics. The show > time has also been changed to 9PM which will probably put DT on at the usual > club time of 11:00, and on a school night no less! What a drag! Now I will > have to make a night of it, get all drunk and shit, and suffer through the > painful meetings on my calender for Tuesday morning! Oh well at least it's > closer to my house. > > I-Man > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:50:11 -0800 From: "Paul Evans" To: "ytsejam" Subject: TNT, Santana, no DTC... Message-ID: <017d01bf7f19$81eac560$message_id_removed> Yep, I've got all the TNT. Hey Korg, the new one, is, well, weird... The cover is pretty cool, but the music is down a different track for them. I'm gonna listen to it again this weekend, but just be warned, it doesn't even sound like the same group... And I seem to remember it sucking... Oh well, like my opinion matters! As always, decide for yourself. I've already posted my opinions on Santana, but I will say this: I'd rather see him get an award than Ricky Martin, et al... But then again, I don't have any respect for these awards anyway. It's all in who the record industry decides to promote. My hat is off to a guy who has long paid his dues, and I respect Santana, even though I don't like his playing... Darn, that just snuck in there again! Just in case anyone thinks I only like chops infested players, buzzzzzzzzzt! I do like David Gilmour. It's just a matter of touch... or is it tone? :-) Oh yeah, back to TNT. I was always impressed with LeTekro's (sp?) machine gun technique as well, until I saw them live - he basically is just picking very quickly on ONE string, and sliding his left hand up (or down) the neck, depending on what solo you're listening to. Almost as if he was just laughing at all the super chops guys! He does play some really great stuff though - very unpredictable... Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:54:49 -0500 From: Adam Pye To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT/Zep Message-ID: At 02:15 PM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: >I think most blues musicians would guess that YOU don't listen to much >blues, if you think Led Zep sounds like good blues to you. Also out of curiousity, everyone knows that Led Zeppelin IS NOT A BLUES BAND, right? Definitely a rock band, and this song just happens to have a "bluesy" feel to it. Just wanted to mention that to all these people who seem to know absolutely nothing about Led Zeppelin... _________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:18:04 -0600 From: Brad Plumb To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: On the subject of Homerian delights... Message-ID: A couple of favs: Homer: Marge! Maybe I do have motivational skills, everybody always says they have to work harder when I'm around. Homer: Take it back?! After using it?! Marge this isn't a toothbrush, it's not that easy! Bart's Big Brothers Association friend: You know Bart, the dolphin is not actually a fish, it's a mammal Homer's adopted foreign child friend: Is that true Mr. Homer? Homer: *snicker* no. Snake: Oh no! Bette Midler! GOds there's so many more. This is off the top of my head. Anyway, the best thing the Simpsons ever did was The Mr. Sparkle episode. Or maybe that's because I've seen one too many Japanese commercials, and I know how accurate it really was! ;) Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the opportunity." -Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:13:05 -0600 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: DT/Zep Message-ID: >> I think most blues musicians would guess that YOU don't listen to much >> blues, if you think Led Zep sounds like good blues to you. > > Also out of curiousity, everyone knows that Led Zeppelin IS NOT A BLUES > BAND, right? Definitely a rock band, and this song just happens to have a > "bluesy" feel to it. > > Just wanted to mention that to all these people who seem to know absolutely > nothing about Led Zeppelin... Well...they had a lot of songs that "just happened to have a bluesy feel." They were a rock band, yes, without question...but they were, especially on the first two albums, *very* heavily influenced by blues music. They always cited the blues as their biggest influence, people like Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, etc. -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:12:44 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: new prog stuff Message-ID: >>Bunny Brunel's "LA Zoo", "The hot new progressive rock album", features Bunny on bass, along with Vivian Campbell on guitar, >> Vivan Campbell sounds VERY familiar but can't recall . Vivian Campbell was in an early 80's metal band called Sweet Savage. Metallica did a cover of their song "Killing Time." Later he was in Whitesnake for a little while in the 80s, and joinded Def Leppard in after Steve Clark died, where he still is to this very day. Haven't heard of this band though or his involvement lately in anything outside of Def Leppard and his side project band Clock. Maybe it's not the same guy? -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:22:36 -0600 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: new prog stuff Message-ID: > Whitesnake for a little while in the 80s, and joinded Def Leppard in after > Steve Clark died, where he still is to this very day. Heh, this sentence just made me laugh. "Yes, Steve Clark has remained dead. If the situation changes, we will notify you." Ignore me, I'm stupid. :) -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:21:04 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Brooks To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Dallas DT show Message-ID: To all Dallas/Ft. Worth area jammers: In case this hasn't been posted yet, (I don't know, I haven't seen it yet) Tickets for the Dallas show at the Canyon Clud will go on sale on March 1st. The website to go to is www.startickets.com and the venue web site is http://dfw.citysearch.com/E/V/DALTX/0005/75/07/7.html In case you didn't know, the Canyon Club is part of the BroncoBowl Entertainment complex. Ticket prices are 27.00. Thanks, Glen ===== "Sometimes a view from sinless eyes centers our perspectives and pacifies our cries." Lines in the Sand,Dream Theater My personal home page: http://www.geocities.com/g_brooks My favorite web pages: http://www.flash.net/~xmittrs __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:21:34 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ACOS Message-ID: >> For example, why not just have 3 or 4 songs on an album that have one >> story going for them together, while the rest of the album is not part of >> the story. > You mean something like ACoS? > Linus uh......no. ACOS is one song that is 23 minutes long. NOT a series of songs tied together. -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:29:56 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Pantera sighting Message-ID: > I live in Levelland, Texas. It's a small community of about 14,000 last I >heard. We have a junior college here that has a somewhat respectable > commercial music department. Well, the other day I was driving around and I > saw a large tour bus drive by, and on the back of it read "Pantera" in big > letters. Being the curious one, I followed it for a while. It stopped at > the music department and a crew of people began pouring out of it. As they > did I noticed that they weren't exactly a heavy metal group. Underneath the > word Pantera was the rest of their title; Pantera de la Noche. They are a > tejano band from Mexico. Geez...what a space cadet. > [eriC] haha! Makes for a great story though! -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:36:42 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Muise To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: On the subject of Homerian delights... Message-ID: Here's a lil gem that circulates the office on any given week.. when homer looks into starting an internet provider and reads the book on it.. Homer: They have the internet on computer now? On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Brad Plumb wrote: > > A couple of favs: > > Homer: Marge! Maybe I do have motivational skills, everybody always says > they have to work harder when I'm around. > > Homer: Take it back?! After using it?! Marge this isn't a toothbrush, it's > not that easy! > > Bart's Big Brothers Association friend: You know Bart, the dolphin is not > actually a fish, it's a mammal > > Homer's adopted foreign child friend: Is that true Mr. Homer? > > Homer: *snicker* no. > > Snake: Oh no! Bette Midler! > > GOds there's so many more. This is off the top of my head. Anyway, the best > thing the Simpsons ever did was The Mr. Sparkle episode. Or maybe that's > because I've seen one too many Japanese commercials, and I know how accurate > it really was! ;) > > > > Palpatine > www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ > Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian > of Anime-no-kai > > "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel > "It was then that the natives offered to kill him for me. I still needed him > for a few shots, so I declined the offer. I'll always regret missing the > opportunity." > -Werner Herzog on Klaus Kinski > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:email_address_removed Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:42:39 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5342 Message-ID: > looking forward to pudding instead of jello this week. Pudding! Yeah man! Behave! Sean Money For The Toll ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:49:21 -0800 From: Wes Foll To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Other Theaters of the non-Dream variety Message-ID: >>But the MANN Theaters absolutely RULE down in Westwood, no comparison >>anywhere else... >> >> >>-The Doc I don't know about the Mann theaters, but I do know that the Edwards 22 in Ontario kicks ASS over any theater I have ever been to. They've got 3 HUGE (larger than the 19 other already LARGE stadium seating cinemas in this complex) cinemas and also some IMAX shit goin on. If you ever get to this place, you should Doc, and whoever else lives in the L.A. area. Now jamming: LTE2 and LTE1 (can you say "DIAMN?") ------------------------------------------------------ If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him ... is he still wrong? Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ICQ #4550740 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:55:03 -0500 From: Teresa To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT @ Toads Message-ID: I was at the show at Toads on Wed and I thought Dream Theater was amazing, but Toads was horrible. It was way over packed, no one could move and of course that fence didn't help a thing. I also was standing in front of the sound board but I could barely see or breathe and I couldn't move at all. Dream Theater needs to start playing at a larger place in CT like the Webster or the Oakdale, they've definitely outgrown Toads Place. Teresa > > > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:46:03 -0500 (EST) > From: Jeremy Hallum > To: "Ytsejam: Where Dream and Flames Unite" > Subject: Re: DT @ Toads > Message-ID: > > I've been to see DT @ Toads 3 times now, and that was by far the > largest crowd I've ever seen in that place. It was sold out, the fullest > Toad's has been.. The Under 21 side was pretty empty, I guess, but there > was no space to stand on the over 21 side that wasn't shoulder to > shoulder with someone else. I suppose there was one good thing about > that--there was no room to mosh, either. I ended up back even with the > soundboard on the right side (stage left). Great show, great time! > > I'm thinking, to prevent this type of thing for Boston (which is > also sold out), we're taking over one of the side balconies to watch the > show from. I want a good view of Jordan, and I don't want to deal with a > huge crowd acting like last nights. > > -jeremy > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:09:09 PST From: "heather jackson" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Santana Message-ID: He didn't according to the grammy's last night. Rob Thomas and someone else composed the song. Heather J email_address_removed >From: email_address_removed >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Santana >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:43:39 -0800 (PST) > >In a message dated 2/24/00 1:04:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, >ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: > ><< >> My Santana rantings << > > > >>I could not disagree more. Santana rocks! I think I'll listen to > >>anything with latin percussion sound anyway. > > >I enjoy listening to alot of Santana's music (except Black Magic Woman), > >but I don't think he's a really great guitarist and I don't think he > >should be hailed as some sort of musical deity the way he is. > >Personally, I'm indifferent to Santana but I have a question. Did he even >really do anything on that "Smooth" song he has out? DId he write it? Cause >all I hear (and see in the video) is him just playing some lead here and >there in the song that basically anyone could have done. It doesn't even >have >anything to do with the song itself really. It's just a few embellishments >here and there that the song didn't even need IMO. I'm just curious as to >whether or not he even composed the song. > -Mike C. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5343 **************************