YTSEJAM Digest 5316 Today's Topics: 1) Essential Footwear & I am Not Talking Dr.Martens :) by Graham Boyle 2) Re: DT bootlegs by email_address_removed 3) Re: Jericho/DT/KISS by email_address_removed 4) Re: Spock's Bear by email_address_removed 5) Mike Portnoy on bass players by Martin 6) Re(2): DT bootlegs by "Nissinen Tommi" 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5315 by mikel 8) essential footwear by "Trevor W. Hoit" 9) by "Mats Skoglund" 10) Just make them stop........please..... by "BRIAN REEVES" 11) France by "Vandenabeele, Hein" 12) Spock' Teddy Bear by Michael Nazer 13) Peanuts: Where are they now? by "Al @ Switchcraft" 14) new haven show sold out? by Robb Muise 15) Ernie Ball guitars by Mike Patrick 16) Pink Floyd and The Perfect Guitar (TM) by "Awake ." 17) Re: Pink Floyd by email_address_removed 18) Cin-city woes and delights, Yes by "M P" 19) Animals, recording, open radio by "Awake ." 20) by Giannotti Nick Contr ESC/JS 21) Re: Sorry, Penis fans ....... by Joe DeAngelo 22) Music by jammers by Paul Weiss 23) spock's beard by Roene.Desjardijn@ect.nl 24) DTshow in Detroit by Joe DeAngelo 25) Re: Essential footwear by "Pye, Adam" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:29:18 +1100 From: Graham Boyle To: The Dream Theater Mailing List Subject: Essential Footwear & I am Not Talking Dr.Martens :) Message-ID: Essential DT boot's: As previously stated, 'Mind Control', 'The Dance Of Eternity' 'Uncovered' the legendary covers gig 'The Fix For 96' different arrangements on the FII material 'Nighttime Nostagia' fan club gig that is also known as 'Stained Glass' 'Regression Of A Memory' France 1999, perhaps in terms of quality, the best audience boot I have heard. There's tonnes more, but really you only need one decent boot from each tour :) Unless your a DT CD whore like me :) gaz NP Nightwish live Tuska 09-07-99 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:43:40 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT bootlegs Message-ID: In a message dated 2/17/00 2:59:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << Being here 5 years has left me with an impression that items like Mind Control and The Dance of Eternity (2 disc version) make that cut, and I'd say that, whatever you think of Mike Bahr, Acoustic Dreams might be on that list. >> Excuse my ignorance, but what is on the Mind Control bootleg? -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:53:51 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Jericho/DT/KISS Message-ID: In a message dated 2/17/00 2:59:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << >He is also>does a metal article in a music mag ( I can't think of the name >right now ) >each month. >> >is it Metal Edge? I have an issue with an article about DT (bought it >because of DT) Yep, it is. Jericho writes an article in there every month called Metal is Jericho (in fact, another jammer mentioned this about 3 or 4 jams ago). And in the latest he gave his top albums for every year in the 90's. SFAM and Awake were both named albums of their respective years by him and IAW was his runner up in 92 to KISS' Revenge album (which that particular jammer also mentioned 3 or 4 jams ago), Boy, what was he smokin on THAT choice? Revenge over IAW??? And, on that note, am I the only one here who's completely sick of KISS?? I mean, enough's enoughh! gene Simmons is the ultimate rock whore. At least he makes no bones about it though, but still. I am at the point where I just hate this band anymore. And the funy thing is, I'm a big KISS fan and I STILL hate them at this point! I can only imagine how everyone else feels. Oh well, excuse me for rambling. -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:56:53 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Spock's Bear Message-ID: In a message dated 2/17/00 2:59:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes: << On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Michael Nazer wrote: >> Did you know that as a child Spock had a pet sehlat, which is a vulcan >> teddy bear? >No it wasn't! A Sehlat was a sabre-toothed tiger, not a teddy bear! :) >> Right, but I think Spock described it as a 6 foot talk Teddy Bear with fangs, or something like that. Excuse me for talking Trek on here by the way! -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:19:43 -0800 (PST) From: Martin To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mike Portnoy on bass players Message-ID: Mike Portnoy wrote about Transatlantic : :These guys are total geniuses.And Pete is just amazing :to play with..I've played with Sheehan, Levin, Myung :etc...But I have to say that Pete is the most melodic :& "tasty" bass player I have ever played with... I :feel like I'm hanging with McCartney in his prime!!! Wow, that bass player must be a monster! Who's yearning so much for Transatlantic except me? :-) Martin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:16:00 +0300 From: "Nissinen Tommi" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re(2): DT bootlegs Message-ID: > >Excuse my ignorance, but what is on the Mind Control bootleg=3F > > -Mike C. It is 01/24/95 Urawa, Japan and Couple acoustic tracks from Veronica Radio= Show. Setlist: Pull Me Under 6:00 Take The Time Caught In a Web Lifting Shadows Of a Dream The Mirror Lie Another Day Erotomania Voices The Silent Man Metropolis - part1 Tears *(acoustic) The Silent Man *(acoustic) -Tommi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:24:35 +1100 From: mikel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5315 Message-ID: Dark Side of the Moon or the Wall are essential albums for any CD collections. Though theyre not my favourite Floyd CDs. Animals or Meddle are better IMO, but maybe not for the first floyd album you get. BTW did anyone see a very humble (slightly bald I think) Dave Gilmour and Ian Paice playing for Paul McCartney? I saw him on TV the other night and freaked out. > Middle class snobs of American society (like, I presume, you imagine > me) I have no idea who you are, so I don't attempt to imagine what you are. You could be an Iraqi billionaire for all I know. > are also probably the only people who think you're an asshole for > voicing an opinion like that about Americans. I didnt say all Americans I said American snobs. If you choose to put yourself in that category, then I do mean you, Digital Man! > I love how messages like this try to make *me* feel inferior, like > it's *my* fault Everyones out to get you Digital Man! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:26:56 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: essential footwear Message-ID: Speaking of boots, does anyone have this one from The House of Blues in LA w/Ray Alder and Bruce Dickinson? I know Westwood One radio recorded it, anyone else? I would love to get it. Show #2 - 5/18/98 Lines In The Sand Burning My Soul Take The Time (w/ Freebird, Hot For Teacher, Moby Dick & YYZ) Anna Lee (2nd drum kit) Speak To Me (2nd drum kit) (keyboard solo) A Crack in The Mirror Puppies on Acid (The Mirror) Just Let Me Breathe Lie Peruvian Skies (w/ Have A Cigar & Enter Sandman) (guitar solo w/ Paradigm Shift, It's a Small World & Flight of the Bumblebee) Pull Me Under (w/ Ray Alder of Fates Warning) Scarred ACOS 4 Ytse Jam (drum solo w/ Audience Participation & Reign in Blood) New Millennium encore: Perfect Strangers, The Trooper & bits of The Prisoner, Where Eagles Dare, Run To The Hills & Killers (w/ Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden) (medley) Metropolis Pt.1 Learning To Live ACOS 7 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:37:50 +0100 From: "Mats Skoglund" To: Message-ID: <000301bf7909$226f0170$message_id_removed> PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THIS MAILING LIST. THANK YOU. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:27:38 -0700 From: "BRIAN REEVES" To: Subject: Just make them stop........please..... Message-ID: <005c01bf7931$9dfc9dc0$7c860a3f@x4f6e0> I've been on this list now for 2 years or so and it seems that people just can't figure out how to subscribe or unsubscribe. Ain't it annoying? Anyhoo, I've begun sending mails to all those who screw it up. I'm pointing them to the www.dreamt.org page to get the proper info. Hopefully this will not require more than 8 to 10 hours per day of my time cause I need to sleep. I'm not angry or anything, just my way of helping out. This group has helped me out many times over the years and I sure do appreciate it. Hopefully, someone else will appreciate the help. Brian Reeves NP:Digital Ruin: Dwelling In The Out ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:23:40 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: France Message-ID: A Frencman wrote.. >Vive la France, vive Dream Theater -> Dream Theater in >France ? Yes France is a very beautiful country and it would be great to live there if it wasn't for all those chauvinistic French people over there... Sigh... HeinV NP. Primus Frizzle Fry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:34:00 -0600 From: Michael Nazer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Spock' Teddy Bear Message-ID: Andrew Countermarsh wrote- No it wasn't! A Sehlat was a sabre-Toothed tiger, not a teddy bear! _____ Hi Andrew!! I am going to respectfully disagree. I pulled out my husbands copy of THE STAR TREK ENCYCLOPEDIA by Okuda, Okuda and Mirek. Here is the definition from the book "sehlat. A Vulcan animal resembling a large teddy bear with six-inch fangs. When Spock was a boy, he was very fond of his pet sehlat. ("Journey to Babel" [TOS])." And BTW I am not Mike that's my husband, I am Pam. Mike is a DT fan too, but I'm the fanatic. and a big hello to all the jammers I meet on Fri. at the Minneapolis show! Zap ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:53:29 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" To: retaehT maerD Subject: Peanuts: Where are they now? Message-ID: With all the attention this topic has received on the Jam... I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon. :) Ahem.. Peanuts: Where are they now? Charlie Brown and Marcie were wed in June of 1982. After five years of working dead-end jobs, Charlie landed a position at the Schlitz brewery in Longview Texas. Marcie elected to stay home so she could take care of the kids they were PLANING on having. After several years of unsuccessfu= l sex, (take it for what it's worth) Marcie convinced Charlie to see a doct= or about his *problem*. According to the doctor, things were not *looking = up* for Charlie Brown.. :) Two weeks later at a bowling banquet, Marcie emba= rrassed Charlie publicly by mentioning his problem in front of his bowling buddie= s... His unparalleled anger (compounded by his chronic alcoholism) sent him in= to a violent rage When they returned home, Charlie waited for her to fall asleep.... Then he set her on fire with = a full bottle of Homer Formby's furniture polish and a Harley Davidson commemorative Zippo =AE lighter. Marcie did not survive her injuries. Charlie Brown i= s currently a patient at "Trembling Hills" home for the criminally insane. Franklin moved to Burley Idaho in 1982... He's employed by Pipemore Engineering as a property surveyor. When he's not busy coaching little league, he can be found skimming through the personal pages of his local papers... Or surfing the web. :) He remains single... Rerun began building Pro Stock motorcycle engines in the spring of 1985. After teaming up with George Bryce of "Star Racing", he began his career = by building engines with some of the most impressive dyno numbers ever seen from a naturally aspirated motorcycle engine. Unfortunately, while test-= driving one of his new creations on the streets of Americus Georgia, he hit a pot= hole at high speed and was ejected from the motorcycle. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Peppermint Patty works as a waitress at a truck stop just outside of Tuls= a, OK. Her CB radio friends know her as "The Sexecutioner". Her co-workers refer to her as "The Sleeper Creeper". She's gained 75 pounds and has a mustache that would make Tom Selleck jealous. She remains single, but is rumored to *shack up* with a guy named John Petrucci (guitarist for the Prog-metal band "Dream Theater") whenever his band is in the Oklahoma are= a.. Linus and Sally began married life in 1981... 12 years later, Linus suff= ered a permanent spinal injury after being hit by a Fed Ex truck as he chased Chris Farley across a busy street. The highly visible Mr. Farley (sporti= ng a blaze orange sweat suit) was walking from an adult book store and had no idea why he was being pursued by Linus. Paramedics at the scene herd Lin= us muttering something about a "Great Pumpkin". Sally faithfully takes care= of her quadriplegic husband and is actively involved in their neighborhood c= rime watch program. Linus and Sally continue to live in rural Vermont. Pig Pen cleaned up his act... After college, he became a teacher at Dinsdale Middle school in Trinidad, CO. His duties include teaching the required coarse "Teenage Sexuality" to all 8th grade students. He keeps himself busy during his off-time in the summer months... By day he breeds chinchillas in his basement; He spends the evenings vandalizing the homes of all known PETA members living in the Colorado area. (Hey, somebody has to do it, right?) He is also single. Lucy is the CEO of a mid-size insurance company in Dickinson, ND. (A position formerly held by her husband, Francis) She enjoys water sports and spends most of her free time (anytime) annoying the residents and vacationers of northern Minnesota. Her pink 35 foot Bayliner "I am Woman" can frequently be seen (like you'd miss it) on the waters of the popular "Leech" and "Mille Lacs" lakes. She has received several citatio= ns from the Minnesota DNR for playing slalom with smaller water craft. Schroeder has disappeared off the face of the earth... It's rumored that to avoid constant pursuit from Lucy, he went into hiding... Then sometim= e in the late 70s he had his name legally changed to "Jordan" something??? He hasn't been heard from since... -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I know what you're thinking.. "What about Snoopy & Woodstock?" I'll leave that up to someone else..... Korg?? :) I think Woodstock was eaten by Sally Struthers... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:13:51 -0500 From: Robb Muise To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: new haven show sold out? Message-ID: Well, i logged into ticketmaster this morning to buy some for the new haven show, and it says: Tickets are not currently on sale for this event Now I know they were on sale last week, if this means they are sold out then i'm pissed... Anyone got some spare tix ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:email_address_removed Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:34:17 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Patrick To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Ernie Ball guitars Message-ID: Since I slagged the EB guitars for their looks, and since Mr. Ptacek came to their rescue sonically, I DO want to say that I too thought JP's sound at the show was nothing short of incredible - whether that was the mix or superior equipment, I can't tell. Still don't like the way they look though.... Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Feb 2000 13:53:05 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Pink Floyd and The Perfect Guitar (TM) Message-ID: >> Ok, I've put off getting into pink floyd for >>long enough, and I can't hold out any longer. >>What's the best album to start out with? > >I'd say pick up "Wish You Were Here" and the >"The Wall". These are my favorites... :) Don't start with WYWH, just a suggestion - the vocals are a little..erm...y'know. Yeah. I actually think the best start point is probably P.U.L.S.E. - OK, hold the flams, please. Because you get a good overview of all the three eras of Floyd: Barrett, Waters and The David Gilmour Touring Band (!). From there, you can choose which song style catches you most AND you've got a far superior version of DSOtM already. Personally, my favourite album is The Wall, followed by Animals then Meddle (the latter can be considered a half-way point between psychadelia of Barrett and the brutality of Waters. >> There's just something about, say, an Ibanez >>that says, 'I AM A METAL GUITAR!!!!!'. > >RAH!!!! METAL! METAL! MMMMMM! BEEFY! >(A suitable metal guitar, for all of Mankind!) >> Stupid as it may sound, the Music >> Mans just don't make a visual statement. I think the best looking body I've ever seen on a guitar was on a Jackson Dinky - much like a JPM, but with fatter horns, which I prefer. If I ever win the lottery, I'll get uncle Ibanez to make me one with an Ibanez head, DiMarzio pickups, and a translucent British Racing Green finish on a 10 top. Dribble.... ~Simon NP: Crowded House, "Hole In The River" Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:58:22 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Pink Floyd Message-ID: Floyd has a lot of cool stuff. It depends on what mood you're going for. I'd definitely recommend Meddle, Animals, and The Final Cut. Also check out "Amused To Death" from Roger Waters. Sean Money For The Toll ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:08:12 EST From: "M P" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Cin-city woes and delights, Yes Message-ID: >From: "Greg Jones" >Subject: Cinci Show >DT sounded awseome. The mix was fantastic. >Jordan is a fantastic addition to the band. His synth solo blew us away. He >took adantage of midi sequenced back tracks for part of his solo. This can >be done cheasy heh. the band must've noticed that too, if you noticed the dig on the monitors at the end of the solo ;) >LaBrie sounded great. I have noticed that he can go sharp at times. He was singing in a different register, somewhat higher than anything I remember. It sounded good though. >The stage show utilized t.v. screens. The video really enhanced the overall >stage show. Great idea guys! amen >If anyone else was at the show, I was sitting with three fans in the first >row of the balcony (one of the few places in the place where one can >actually sit). We had some of the best seats in the house! *groan* I was on the floor, envying you *******s up in the balcony with the good view. Had I but known, I'd have shelled out twice the price. Conversation between me and the doorman: "You guys really need more parking here. I just spent 40 minutes trying to find a spot." "Really? Where did you end up parking?" "Ummm.... Edwards Center?" This was about 3 blocks away. Probably not bad, all considered, but when you start looking for any port in a storm and most of the local merchants are quite happy to call the tow trucks (I spotted two walking back to the venue), you get a little nervous when you aren't parking someplace recommended by the club's webpage. Being alone in a shady-looking part of the big-city doesn't help. The place was sold out. Great for OFB, but for someone my height relegated to the middle of the floor (or behind a post. I opted for the floor) this did not help the view. My thanks to the ONE man that stepped in front of me that turned around and asked if I could still see (I could). :) If anyone remembers bumping past a trashcan on the right-side wall, I was the guy that hid behind it to A. avoid the incoming slightly-full cups B. stop sidestepping and saying excuse me every 20 seconds! ;) The show was great, and worth the hassle. Better still, I snagged the last free demo from one Michael Harris. Iffen you like DT's instrumental stuff, I highly recommend him. I'll probably order something of his as soon as I can locate someplace selling his stuff. >early Yes (Fragile, Close To The Edge, Tales From Topographic Oceans... did >I >miss one?:Yes (first one), Time And A Word, The Yes Album and >Relayer.....for >those that cut off the 'early Yes' period at Relayer. I don't cut off early Yes until Tormato/Drama (unless you mean REALLY early Yes, then Time and a Word). I'd probably have to have the EMS on call if they ever did TGOD live again, and I don't mean that overused snippet 'Soon' DthenA/JAJUID ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Feb 2000 14:12:36 -0000 From: "Awake ." To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Animals, recording, open radio Message-ID: Snicker, here I am plugging how good "Animals" is, and I didn't realise until after I posted that I'm sitting here wearing an "Animals" t-shirt! D'oh, how dumb am I? >From: Jonathan Willey Cheers for the advice, John. There's not a whole lotta electric going down (two 7-string parts on a couple of songs, and a strat for solos on a couple of things) but it's a pain trying to get a decent tone. Luckily or otherwise, I'm ont using a setup even remotely related to my usual live one, so that's cool. >To: "No Holds barred distribution list":;, >Subject: No Holds bared Radio, 24 hours a day >Message-ID: ><< The Rock 92 KSJO is changing format... > > Well, just for ONE weekend. In an unprecedented move, > management at The Rock plans to spread it's legs and > completely whore out the station to the highest > bidder. > > That's right - we'll play any song, no matter if it's > speed metal, or pussy pop sh!t. > > You pay, we play... > Starting at noon on Friday the 18th and continuing ALL > WEEKEND. > What does this mean to you? It means you can have The > Rock play ANY FREAKING SONG YOU WANT... AS LONG AS YOU > PAY... > > Each spin for a song will start at $25.00. If you're > in a band and you want your song played, it'll cost > $100.00. You'll be able to place you order online > soon, and we'll open up an 800 number for orders and > bids during the live broadcast. I'll pay 'em $30 to have them play the WHOLE of ACOS. Well, it's only one song, right??! ~Simon Sign-up for free Buffy the Vampire Slayer e-mail at http://www.buffymail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:26:39 -0500 From: Giannotti Nick Contr ESC/JS To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Message-ID: D-man wrote, >Harmony! My first bass was a Harmony. $150 new, about 12 years ago >now. That and the $80 Ross amp, and I was all set to be JPJ. :) >I think the bass was heavier than the amp, and you could have used it >to shoot arrows. I really don't miss it. :) Heh - mine was a Hondo. Red P-Bass copy, and it was so heavy that I might as well have strapped an anvil to my chest and banged it with a hammer. Sounded just about as good, too. But I did get a really cool Tronix Amp from a friend of mine. Thank God I've upgraded - I'd be stooped like Marty Feldman in "Young Frankenstein" if I still played that log. >d "Are *you* old school?" man Yep. :) Then, Chris Ptacek wrote, >That blue Music Man that JP is using sounds and looks amazing to me. I'm sorry, but I just cannot give my seal of approval to a guitar that was endorsed by Richard Marx. :) - Nick Nicholas Giannotti Joint STARS Joint Program Office / ESC/JSOK Electronic Data Management / Keyfile System Resources Corporation (Support Contractor) email: email_address_removed / phone: 781-377-6915 DSN 478-6915 "Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise." - Some dead guy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:55:41 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Sorry, Penis fans ....... Message-ID: Carlos Alfaro said: Ive never been much of a peanuts fan, im more of a Calvin and Hobbes man myself. I sure miss that :( Personally, I was a Bloom County/Outland fan..... - Joe D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:04:47 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Weiss To: A Mind Forever Ytse-ing Subject: Music by jammers Message-ID: Since somebody on the list had requested hearing what jammers had done and Korg had been the first volunteer, and now Andrew, I figured what the hell. It's not prog by a long shot, but it was fun. It was done on a 4 track in the basement of the guitarist's house. The group has since broken up, due to our guitarist getting out of Dodge (well, DC really). It's a RealAudio file, so don't expect mp3s. Follow this link: http://www.bass.org/popcan paul NP Spock's Bears: Captain, the sehlat's mauling Sulu.mp3 (ok, Yo La Tengo: And then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul's biweekly musical quote: Father, I/ killed my monkey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:09:09 +0100 From: Roene.Desjardijn@ect.nl To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: spock's beard Message-ID: >It's Spock's Bears. OK, well in that case then, it is well known to >any serious Star Trek fan that at one point Spock bought the Chicago >Bears because he loved football so much The Band is called Spock's Beard and not Spock's Bears. The're named after the one episode of Star Track where Spock has a Beard (this is the truth!). Roene Desjardijn ___________________ D I S C L A I M E R _______________________ Dit bericht is verzonden via internet vanaf een berichtensysteem van Europe Combined Terminals B.V. (ECT) en/of haar dochterondernemingen.Gegeven de functionaliteit van internet mail kan ECT niet instaan voor de juistheid en compleetheid van de informatie aanwezig in dit bericht.Er kunnen derhalve geen rechten ontleend worden aan de in dit bericht aanwezige informatie noch accepteert ECT enige aansprakelijkheid terzake. This message has been send through Internet from a message system of Europe Combined Terminals B.V. (ECT) and/or its subsidiairies.Given the functionality of the internet mail ECT cannot vouch for the correctness and completeness of the information present in this message.Therefore, no rights can be derived from the information contained in this message, nor does ECT accept any liability whatsoever. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:16:03 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo To: YTSEJAM Subject: DTshow in Detroit Message-ID: Look for Christian and me at the Detroit show. I'll be wearing my FII shirt. -Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:44:40 -0600 From: "Pye, Adam" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Re: Essential footwear Message-ID: Someone asked: > what DT boots do you consider "essential"/gotta have type pieces of any > fanatic's collection? People have already mentioned some of the standard boots that everyone and his mother has. Lost in the Sky (excellent), The Dance of Eternity (excellent), Mind Control (average at best show, but good sound), Uncovered (would have been good if James wasn't sick as a dog that day), etc. It really depends on what you're looking for. If you want boot-scalper boots (ie, packaged boots like the ones above) and have to have the graphics, liners, etc, then you're missing out on 90% of the best shows available out there. 6/9/95 is a good example - the "Mercy Fuck" show. Also 2/22/95 (Derek officially announced as the new keys guy), the Home for the Holidays shows (which were originally done properly - in a tape tree, but have since been bastardized into scalper CDs), 4/16/97 (first live Trial of Tears), etc etc. Few of these have been "released" by punks trying to make money (thankfully), but are among the best of DT shows. Sometimes, you'll have to sacrifice sound quality to get a landmark show. The best example is 11/17/90, the all instrumental show between the Charlie and James eras. I uploaded this to Bogie's site after cleaning up the original source tape, but sound quality is still pretty poor. EXCELLENT show, but if you have to have a soundboard type sound (though I normally prefer a good audience recording to a soundboard) you're going to miss quite a performance. My only advice would be not to ever buy these things. If you've heard of a bootleg at all it's easily available through trade from many people on this list. There's a ton of rare (none of the boot-scalper boots can even be considered rare anymore, nor the "rare" mp3s that have been used as filler on every bootleg imaginable) stuff out there that you can't buy at all. And if you just can't find anyone to get these from, email me. I'd rather spin it for you for free than you give money to some thief. Take care all (Atlanta and Orlando shows, just a couple of weeks away - WOOHOO!!)... Adam ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5316 **************************