YTSEJAM Digest 5301 Today's Topics: 1) Roseland Ballroom, NYC by "Christina Ricciardi" 2) NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc. by email_address_removed.de (Christoph Bauer) 3) Re: How Long Do the Dregs Play?/ DT SLC show last night by email_address_removed 4) JPM by Jared Emery 5) RE: NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc. by David Dixon 6) Re: JPM by "Carlos Alfaro" 7) Re: guitar by email_address_removed 8) Remove from list! by email_address_removed 9) Theory/Dregs by "I-Man" 10) Re: Remove from list! by Robb Muise 11) The Real Saga of Derek(tm) by Matt Johnston 12) Re: The Real Saga of Derek(tm) by Robb Muise 13) Re: 21 and over in NYC? by email_address_removed 14) Re: names by "xxx" 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300 by "Bryan Adams" 16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298 by Linus Akesson 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298 by "Carlos Alfaro" 18) Opeth by Graham Boyle 19) the NYC show.... by email_address_removed 20) apologies, misunderstood list members, and good keyboardists by "Doug Melvin" 21) MP PINS by Dave Hatlee 22) Florida?? by Melissa Schnee 23) Re: Wolverine; Birch HELL show] Opeth, pls read ;) by Janne Jokitalo 24) Re: apologies, misunderstood list members, and good by Brad Plumb 25) Re: Styx by Janne Jokitalo 26) Elvin Jones interview snippet by "Fran Brennan" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:40:15 -0500 From: "Christina Ricciardi" To: Subject: Roseland Ballroom, NYC Message-ID: Dan Costello writes: <> The Roseland Ballroom is exactly that -- a ballroom. Many moons ago, it was THE place to be on a Saturday night for ballroom dancing in NYC. It's basically a huge room with great sound, but since it's general admission, it can be tough to see the stage even if you're not a shorty. :) In typical NYC fashion, drinks are VERY expensive and they are VERY strict about proofing, but I've never been to a show there that was 21 and over. Besides, if it were, it would say so on the tickets. Hope that helps. :) ~Christina http://www.spiritofradio.com Believe in the freedom of music ------------------------------ Date: 08 Feb 2000 22:22:00 +0100 From: email_address_removed.de (Christoph Bauer) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc. Message-ID: Hi Jammers, I write this, because I think, that there are some Gitarists on the Jam who are familiar with this kind of stuff and equipment I use. The stuff I use: - TriAxis - Lexicon MPx-100 - DBX 166 XL - ENGL 2X50 Power amp - JPM-100 P2 - Boogie 4X12 Cab I think something must be wrong with the sustain. For example, at a Gain Setting of 10 and a Ld2red Setting of 10, a picked tone gets really weak after two seconds. I bought the DBX unit because I thought it can be used to increase the length of the tone. But I can't hear any effect. This surprises me, because I used a SansAmp Preamp and a Boss GX700 at the beginning of my "carreer". And if I dialed in the gx700's Compressor, the tone was lengthened a lot. I always thought a compressor is used to increase the level of a weak or a getting weaker tone. The GX700 worked exactly this way. is the DBX not working properly? BTW, the DBX and the Lexicon are running in the TriAxis loop. But I hear no differences when I just put them in series after the Pre-Amp. Of course I know that JP uses that kind of Equipment. And his Sustain is much longer, like as the Sustain of many other Stuff I heard life is longer. If the DBX is not broken, How could the sustain be reached? It would be great if someone who is familiar with that technical stuff could contact me via E-Mail. I hope this is not non-related too much, but I don't have many sources of Info like Manuals and Mags because I'm blind. Sorry for my bad english, Thanx, C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:13:23 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: How Long Do the Dregs Play?/ DT SLC show last night Message-ID: Hey Matt, The Dregs (including the amazing Steve Morse) played last night for a solid hour. It was fantastic! I love that band. I was surprised to see Andy West, the original bass player filling in on rhythm guitar and somtimes doubling up with Dave LaRue on a 2nd bass guitar. (First time I've ever seen any band play with *2* bass players!) The Salt Lake City DT show was totally amazing! I just hopped on this list a few days ago so I don't want to bore you and repeat what others have said about the setlist and show details... but, suffice it to say that SFaM was practically note PERFECT! Meeting all the guys and getting autographs after the concert was a highlight!!! ...Oh, and scoring a twinkie from KorgX3 (meant for Mike P.) wasn't bad either... LOL -Gerald Hartley << Hey Jammerz: Forgive me if this has been mentioned, but I don't recall reading it. How long is the Dregs' opening set on this DT tour? I'm just looking for an estimate... half hour? 45 minutes? Or do they play a full set? And one more thing, is Steve Morse still in the band? I hope so... I saw him play for the first time at the Deep Purple gig I went to a couple years back. I was quite impressed. Thanx... Matt T. >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:35:00 -0700 From: Jared Emery To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JPM Message-ID: I just played a jpm ibanez with the matte camo finish, and it sounded great! But the fucking neck is like a classical and the damn frets are soo big! Are John Petrucci's hands huge? I loved the sound soo much, i considered purchasing it because of Petruccis playing style, and they way he has influenced me, but damn... that neck has a fat width...... -Jared ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:45:32 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: NEED Help! Guitar; increasing sustain etc. Message-ID: > I write this, because I think, that there are some Gitarists on the Jam > who are familiar with this kind of stuff and equipment I use. > The stuff I use: > - TriAxis > - Lexicon MPx-100 > - DBX 166 XL > - ENGL 2X50 Power amp > - JPM-100 P2 > - Boogie 4X12 Cab Alrighty - first things first. Try removing the DBX and Lexicon from your signal chain. Get a dry signal first (guitar, preamp, power amp, cabinet - NO EFFECTS), and make sure you have the sustain you're looking for. If you still aren't, there is a possibility you need new tubes in your Triaxis and/or ENGL, a new battery if you have active pickups in your JPM, or new batteries in any wireless systems you are using. This procedure will eliminate the main components of the signal chain from suspicion. Now, one by one, add your effects units back into the chain. I'd say you should start with the Lexicon. Hook it up, make sure you're still getting your tone, and if you aren't, it's that unit. FYI: incorrectly configured noise gates and compressors are notorious for sustain loss. Do the same thing for the DBX, etc., etc., etc. If you need any further help, let me know... :) David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:54:51 -0400 From: "Carlos Alfaro" To: Subject: Re: JPM Message-ID: <000501bf7326$c3f49200$message_id_removed> ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Jared Emery To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: JPM > > I just played a jpm ibanez with the matte camo finish, and it sounded great! But > the fucking neck is like a classical and the damn frets are soo big! Are John > Petrucci's hands huge? I loved the sound soo much, i considered purchasing it > because of Petruccis playing style, and they way he has influenced me, but damn... > that neck has a fat width...... > > prog. metal> > > -Jared > I dont know if the camo is different...but i have a JPM100P3 ( the black and white one) and the neck is thin ...tapered. Its very very comfortable. My hands are pretty big, but theyre not specially *long*, just big :P . Anyways i dont know maybe the P4 (camo) has a different neck.. *Still waiting on seeing the JP-music man guitar* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:41:32 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: guitar Message-ID: >Sure. Nobody *needs* to know music theory in order to write or play music. In >much the same way, nobody needs to know the rules of spelling and grammar to >be able to write. But it you want to make a profession of either then you MUST >learn the rules, or its just lazyness. Simple as that. Theory is too often slagged off >as this evil thing that inhibits creativity, but that's complete crap - how often do you >hear someone who knows theory saying how it ruined their compositional skill? The >problem comes only with people like Steve Vai, who are virtually incapable of >putting together something that doesn't RELY on being flashy and clever. Theory >just means that you can understand WHY something you like sounds the way it >does, which in turn allows you to get what you want to play out of your head and >onto tape with minimal changes at the fingerboard stage. OK, I have a real big question here. Apparently, there are a few guitar players on this list who are just incredible and we other ytsejammers should be greatful we are in there mere prescence. My question is this: If you guys are so great, then how come you keep wasting your time by posting on this damn newsgroup??? Shouldn't you guys be off dazzling the world with your incredible guitar playing skills??? Jesus Christ already (and excuse the language if you hapen to be offended). And this doesn't neccessarily apply to the guy who wrote the quote above, I'm just using this as an opportunity. Especiallly to the one guy who said taht he could learn to play better than Kirk Hammet in a week (or wors to that effect). Well then, stop wasting your time here, go do it, join a band, and tour the damn world already. -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:42:32 -0600 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Remove from list! Message-ID: ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:50:44 -0500 From: "I-Man" To: Subject: Theory/Dregs Message-ID: <000601bf732e$98b8c900$message_id_removed> My $.02: Theory can provide a deeper understanding about how the music works. I don't think anyone will argue that knowledge of music theory is a pre-requisite for writing quality music. It might make smethings easier, like applying certain mode known to achieve a desired mood, instead of having to search for the right notes. (Of course those musically gifted individuals who have an awesome ear for music don't even think about the theory behind what they are coming up with--they just hear it in their head and lay it down! The bastards!) All the theory in the world, however, cannot make a person creative. I studied music since I was nine and classical guitar in college w/ a music minor (which I didn't complete), I don't feel that I have a creative bone in my body and never wrote anything that I (or anyone else for that matter) considered to be good! Thankfully, I have forgotten much of music theory, and can now crank out pentatonic hooks worthy of Top40 radio ;-) For the person who asked if Steve Morse is still in the Dregs: Steve Morse IS the Dregs! (He writes all of the music.) So, the answer is, yes. I am also very interested to find out how long their set lasts. I didn't think they were touring to promote a new album, am I wrong? My holy grail of guitar performance would be to see Steve and John take the stage together, as I was told happened at a show in NY some time ago! Is there any chance of this? Cruise Control anyone! I-Man P.S. See ya at the Recher Theater - Blue Honda Accord with YTSEJAM tags (unless the wife lets me take the new Jetta :o) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:00:21 -0500 From: Robb Muise To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Remove from list! Message-ID: Uh oh... I stick my finger out at authority, i shall NOT contact the sender.. I refuse to delete it from my computer... I shall post it to multiple newsgroups.. i will send it to *@aol.com.. muhuahhahaha At 10:56 AM 2/9/00 -0800, email_address_removed wrote: >---------------------------------------------------------------- >The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which >it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any >review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action >in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the >intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:03:14 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: The Real Saga of Derek(tm) Message-ID: It suddenly hit me. [It's snowing outside... the members of Drem Theater, sans Kevin, are standing, waiting for the bus, bundled tightly in their coats.] JohnP: Dude! Check out this new keyboardist who followed me home! Mike: Sweet! He looks really tough! James: No way dude... Jordan's tougher! Dude, here he comes! JohnP: Derek's gonna kick his ass! JohnM: Mmm Mmmh Mmm mmm Mmm! James: Heh, yeah. [Derek and Jordan meet...] James: Well, he's definitely doing something to his ass. JohnP: What the hell?! Mike: Oh shit, man... Derek's gay! JohnP: Derek! Come here! [Derek complies] JohnP: Now, sit, Derek... good boy. JohnP: Derek, roll over... good boy. JohnP: Derek, don't be gay. Don't be gay Derek. [Derek puts on feather boa, humps Jordan again] James: Dude, that's sick-ass shit, man. Mike: Let's face it, John, keyboardists are gay. JohnP: *sighs* yeah. But that's not bad. I mean, we have James, and he's an 80's hair-band singer! James: Ey! I don't have to take that kinda crap from a scrawny weakling like you! JohnM: Mmm mm mmmm mm mm mmm! Mike: No way, dude. James isn't a cat! --Matt (must... not... take... vicadin... with... vodka... nnngh!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tell me where the fancy bred, by the hearth or in the bed?" --William Shakespeare's 'Kama Sutra' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:19:34 -0500 From: Robb Muise To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: The Real Saga of Derek(tm) Message-ID: that, ladies and gentlemen, is a fucking riot =) At 11:17 AM 2/9/00 -0800, Matt Johnston wrote: >It suddenly hit me. > >[It's snowing outside... the members of Drem Theater, sans Kevin, are >standing, waiting for the bus, bundled tightly in their coats.] > >JohnP: Dude! Check out this new keyboardist who followed me home! >Mike: Sweet! He looks really tough! >James: No way dude... Jordan's tougher! Dude, here he comes! >JohnP: Derek's gonna kick his ass! >JohnM: Mmm Mmmh Mmm mmm Mmm! >James: Heh, yeah. > >[Derek and Jordan meet...] > >James: Well, he's definitely doing something to his ass. >JohnP: What the hell?! >Mike: Oh shit, man... Derek's gay! >JohnP: Derek! Come here! >[Derek complies] >JohnP: Now, sit, Derek... good boy. >JohnP: Derek, roll over... good boy. >JohnP: Derek, don't be gay. Don't be gay Derek. > >[Derek puts on feather boa, humps Jordan again] > >James: Dude, that's sick-ass shit, man. >Mike: Let's face it, John, keyboardists are gay. >JohnP: *sighs* yeah. But that's not bad. I mean, we have James, and > he's an 80's hair-band singer! >James: Ey! I don't have to take that kinda crap from a scrawny > weakling like you! >JohnM: Mmm mm mmmm mm mm mmm! >Mike: No way, dude. James isn't a cat! > > > >--Matt (must... not... take... vicadin... with... vodka... nnngh!) > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Tell me where the fancy bred, by the hearth or in the bed?" > --William Shakespeare's 'Kama Sutra' >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:27:09 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: 21 and over in NYC? Message-ID: Roseland is a good venue. I saw Megadeth and Type O Negative there a few months ago. The show is not 21+. The stage is nice and large, which is good, because in my opinion, a 5 piece with huge amp and effects rigs would look really stupid on a little stage. The sound is pretty good too, everything is clear and distinguished from the other instruments. DT will probably be even better there, because there's no way they're as loud as Megadeth, and they sounded good there. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:12:25 +0200 From: "xxx" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: Re: names Message-ID: <000201bf7338$6c35ef20$5f818ac3@xxx> >And now, try to pronounce MY name, hehe > >hugs, > >- Ksenya Troitskaya > Heh, you've lost the battle, dear lady. /me had studied Russian for 10 years or so... But I'm too lazy to type it phonetically. later, Vic ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:03:45 -0700 From: "Bryan Adams" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5300 Message-ID: Last night was DT's Salt Lake City concert. It was great. They played = SFM cover to cover, with the addition of about a 5-minute keyboard solo. Then they played Peruvian Skies, and a medley of earlier songs (PMU, TTT, = and even Fortune in Lies). Two hours total. Very nice. The mixing seemed guitar/drums oriented. Maybe it was my = location (2nd row), but I had a hard time picking out JM's bass work, and = JR's keys. While I enjoyed the concert, I wish they would have varied the music a bit = more from the CD. It was fun to see them, but I could have stayed home = and just listened to the CD. They had some modest video that, from time to time, showed lyrics, and a = few photos. Overall a great show. .Bryan.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:36:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Linus Akesson To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298 Message-ID: In accordance with the prophecy, Carlos Alfaro uttered: > Yeah ive noticed most good musicians have cool names :) > off the top of my head : > Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, of course the DT members, John Patitucci(sp?) > Chick Corea (hows that for a pimpin' name!) , Mark Zonder, theres tons o= f > cool europeans too... Mikael Akerfeldt (or god) , Dan Swano..Hell ..all t= he > guy's names in Meshuggah .. HEH Of course, Akerfeldt (=C5kerfeldt) is a rather boring, common name in Swede= n... 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Mikael Akerfeldt (or god) , Dan Swano..Hell ..all t= > he > > guy's names in Meshuggah .. HEH > > Of course, Akerfeldt (=C5kerfeldt) is a rather boring, common name in Swede= > n Yes of course, but in our point of view its cool! I mean i guess there couldbe a lot of Satriani's, petrucci's and portnoy's around the world.. but they're no john smiths :) no offense to any John Smith's on the list.. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:05:31 +1100 From: Graham Boyle To: The Dream Theater Mailing List , Subject: Opeth Message-ID: Let's get one thing straight, Opeth are not, re NOT anyway shape or form a black metal band, nor for that matter a death metal band. Maybe that's what puts a lot of people off checking them out ? They play extreme progressive metal with 'death metal' style growling vox, as well as some great 'clean' singing. I no way can you even compare them to anything in the black/death metal genre, they are totally unique. Don't let the growling vox put off from some of the most inspiring and exciting extreme progressive music there is today. Check out 'Still Life', I am sure if you can get your ears around the vox you'll be hooked :) gaz www.ozemail.com.au/~ytsejam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:29:41 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: the NYC show.... Message-ID: Alright, i know it's in Roseland, i'm just wondering if it's 18+, because the one in NJ is, which really sucks, and whoever wants to answer this, THANKS!!! and if you would be so kind as to gimme all the details and all, cuz my computer freezes whenever i try the web. thank you again. laterz all!!! the Katastrophey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:41:29 EST From: "Doug Melvin" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: apologies, misunderstood list members, and good keyboardists Message-ID: Sarah, I'm sorry to have started your membership with a message so malicious, but if there's ONE thing in this world that angers me, it's ignorance. I would've never been prompted to post that had it not angered me as much as it did. There was also a misunderstanding, as I was under the impression that this was your CURRENT opinion (afterall, you started with "IMO"). I also never said "arrogant" in that message :) I aplogize for my harshness to you. I am a previous member of the Genesis list "Paperlate", though, and it's absolutely full of ignorance and nit-pickiness. That's why I quit, and I suppose that it was a hypocritical to do it to you. Again, I say "I'm sorry," because what I said was pretty uncalled for. But I still stand on my opinions, they just shouldn't have been directed toward you. I hope I haven't permanently projected myself as an asshole. I'd hate to think that someone would have that sort of an opinion about me because I flew off the handle ONCE :) By the way, just in the case that you don't absolutely despise me for those comments, I am also a new member to this list. I like to smile a lot :P I'm 14 years old, I live in Erie, PA and I'm in 9th grade. I'm a fan of Genesis, Dream Theater, ELP, Yes, King Crimson, Kevin Gilbert, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Phil Collins, and many others. I'm not strictly a prog fan, however, as some people narrow themselves to be. Welcome to the Dream Theater mailing list, I'm sure we all hope that you enjoy your stay :) ~Doug Melvin "I just wanted to work with my hands. See something go from A to B. And somehow I ended up in the Ghetto of Beautiful Things." - Kevin Gilbert ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:59:08 -0500 From: Dave Hatlee To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: MP PINS Message-ID: Hi folks, I just realized I forgot to post a message here to let you all know about the new Official Mikeportnoy.com pins that are available. We've sold quite a few of these all over the globe and people are wearing them to the shows. Take a look when you get a chance: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/pinorder.html DaveH - Webmaster and resident DT Fanatic http://www.mikeportnoy.com - The Official Mike Portnoy Site http://mpnews.listbot.com - The Official Mike Portnoy Newsletter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:05:55 -0800 From: Melissa Schnee To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Florida?? Message-ID: Hey there, If there is anyone who is going to the concerts in Orlando, Pompano Beach, or Ybor City, FL and wants to do something before or after the show......LET ME KNOW!! I'm from Gainesville and it just so happens that DT is touring Florida when my spring break begins. So, guess who's following them ;) You can contact me on the list or privately: email_address_removed Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:19:41 +0200 From: Janne Jokitalo To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Wolverine; Birch HELL show] Opeth, pls read ;) Message-ID: Carlos Alfaro wrote: > > Ill have to chime in yet again to remind everyone that doesnt give > Opeth a break because of the growled vocals to please open your minds and do > give them a break. This truly one of the most incredible bands to come out > in the 90's. Okay so you're going to get one new opinion on them soon, I'm a member of Finnish Music Club and in their latest magazine there was a small review of them, saying with their latest album they have moved more into the proggier sound, still maintaining that wonderful melodicality (can you actually say that ??) > *You really are missing out on an incredible band and listening experience > if you dismiss them just because they use growls* I guess that growling vocals are mainly the reason for me to stay clear of some bands, but I'm going to try hard with this one, since so many people now have recommended them. I'll let you know how I managed. - Jaska __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:50:08 -0600 From: Brad Plumb To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: apologies, misunderstood list members, and good Message-ID: I aplogize for my harshness to >you. I am a previous member of the Genesis list "Paperlate", though, and >it's absolutely full of ignorance and nit-pickiness. That's why I quit, and >I suppose that it was a hypocritical to do it to you. HA! If you hate nit-picking, you're gonna LOVE it here ;) Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "Such nauseous hypocrisy which, stung by a threepenny tea tax, piles Bunker Hill with granites and statues, prating all the time of patriotism and broadswords, while, like another Pecksniff, it recommends a century of dumb submission and entire non-resistance to the Russians, who for a hundred years have seen their sons by thousands dragged to death or exile" -Wendell Phillips, 1881 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:31:52 +0200 From: Janne Jokitalo To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Styx Message-ID: Michael Kizer wrote: > > I'd start with "Grand Illusion", and if you like that one then start checking > out "Crystal Ball", "Pieces of Eight", "Cornerstone" and possibly "Paradise > Theater". > If you tune into DJ Jessie (or DJ fugazi)'s shows and request some Styx, I'm > sure we can play a few tracks for you... Yeah, well, now that I think of it, there was a male voice (so I don't think Jessie comes to mind, right ? ;-) after a pretty long unpaused music flow (I'm soooo sorry about my sentences, hope you get what I mean, I really don't always know how to say things in english...) telling that there were some tracks from Styx, "Suite..." something, then there was "Crystal Ball" and at least one other, which I can't remember anymore... Does that give you enough ? I really liked that "Suite..." thing (or is it "Sweet.." ?), I'd like to hear more like that, if it's a representative song from their catalog ? And yeah, Crystal Ball was a good one too... Thanks Mike for info !! - Jaska PS. Oh yes, one thing I forgot to mention, it was the first time I actually listened to Ytseradio, but I'll guarantee you, won't be the last...Actually, it's on right now ;-) Keep up the great works, guys and gals !!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 14:40:08 PST From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Elvin Jones interview snippet Message-ID: Someone posted this on the Aquarium Rescue Unit list, and I think it fits well into the recent technical vs. theoretical vs. emotional playing/kirk hammet thread. It's about Elvin Jones, BTW "For the sake of clarity I am going to describe Elvin's style in terms of a three part metaphor because I think it nicely summarizes the artistic process. The HAND refers to how an artist technically plays; the HEAD to the actual musical concepts which provide a basis for ones style; the HEART is the emotional and psychological milieu which frames an artists vision. (Another way to conceptualize this threesome is body, mind and spirit.) " I just wanted to share that, I'm done now. -Fran/Banjoman np: Danny Elfman - Pee Wee's Big Adventure Theme.mp3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A sense of humor is a great way to set up something serious -Edgar Meyer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5301 **************************