YTSEJAM Digest 5299 Today's Topics: 1) looking 4 good net radio by "Tibor Varady 2.0" 2) San Francisco Show by "Raby, Scott A" 3) RE: looking 4 good net radio by "Lisa Marie Palma" 4) RE: Overselling venue by "Jason Birzer" 5) CHICAGO! by "crimson royalty" 6) Attn: Boston Jammers by email_address_removed 7) Music by "Jason Birzer" 8) Metropolis played? by "Dimitri Kontos" 9) I'm back, 2 Questions by Seth Hatlelid 10) Hammet & music in general by "Chris Willenbrock" 11) GA @Toad's by "Fran Brennan" 12) Give me sight beyond.... nevermind by "M P" 13) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5298 by Simon Wilkins 14) DREAM THEATER IN NEW ORLEANS!!! by "Kevin A. Loechner" 15) Styx by Janne Jokitalo 16) Another response to Greg Jones by Evan Hsun-Han Chou 17) hm.... clues? by Chris Oates 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298 by mikel 19) in mere moments by Damon Fibraio 20) RE: XMAS CD RECEIVED! some spoilers.... by "Mauricio Martinez" 21) DT in Australia by email_address_removed.au 22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298 by Aaron Griffith 23) greetings by email_address_removed 24) cool names by Wes Foll 25) Ingnorant list members and good keyboardists by "Doug Melvin" 26) Minneapolis pre-show, Mars Music question, Dream Theater camps ! by email_address_removed 27) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5297 by Digital Man ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:16:08 +0100 From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: looking 4 good net radio Message-ID: Hello friends, I was wondering if someone could give me a recomendations for internet radio stations. Write to me on the Jam, or privately if you know a cool station. It may be progressive, or anything else you think is really good. I never really listened much to these radios, so I guess it is time to start. Thanks in advance Tibor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:35:05 -0800 From: "Raby, Scott A" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: San Francisco Show Message-ID: Incredible, all I can do is echo Mike's comments during the show: YEAH BABY, YEAH! F*&!KIN' A SAN FRANCISCO! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:41:00 -0800 From: "Lisa Marie Palma" To: Subject: RE: looking 4 good net radio Message-ID: <001101bf7274$cf3da640$message_id_removed> > Hello friends, > > I was wondering if someone could give me a recomendations > for internet radio stations. Write to me on the Jam, or privately if > you know a cool station. It may be progressive, or anything else > you think is really good. You should definitely check out YtseJam Radio. Tune in here - http://progmetal.gmsnet.com/clips/ytseradio.ram You can find our broadcast schedule, DJ profiles, and information about #ytseradio on IRC at the YtseJam Radio website - http://www.ytseradio.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lisa Marie Palma email_address_removed DJ Jessie - www.ytseradio.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:54:59 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" To: Subject: RE: Overselling venue Message-ID: >People sitting around us went down to complain to the management, who >were told that "security" will deal with it. To that point, >the "security" staff that was patrolling the area consisted of one >very small woman who would not appear intimidating to a house cat. I have never though much of Security at events since I went to a Van Halen concert at Merryweather Post many years ago. We were on the lawn and some drunk idiots behind us accidently dumped their Wild Turkey spiked coke on us (which they never should have had in the first place.) I tried to get security to throw them out, but those gutless bastards didn't want to take a step on the lawn. We ended up having to leave, because the blanket just reeked of Wild Turkey. I've vowed never to go back and I've been able to keep that word for 5 years. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:48:58 -0600 From: "crimson royalty" To: Subject: CHICAGO! Message-ID: <000101bf7275$ebc59d80$message_id_removed> For all those going to the Chicago show at the Riviera... If you see me, say hey! I'm really hard to miss. If you see some freaky chick with half red, half blond hair, that's me. If you see that freaky chick along with a very goth-looking pale curly black haired girl and a tall lanky guy with hair all the way down his back, then it's DEFINITELY me. I'm pretty obnoxious and pretty congenial. And if anyone is planning on doing anything afterwards, gimme some plans, man. Much luv --summer `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` aNAda e'zine: http://www.anada.net e-mail: email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:52:36 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Attn: Boston Jammers Message-ID: Hey - This message is for any Boston Jammers out there. Or for any Jammer familiar with the Roxy in Boston. There's a chance that I may be heading out to Boston with some people for the upcoming DT show, and I have a few questions about the venue. First, I was wondering how big the place was? If it's really tiny, that could seriously impact when we'd want to get there in line to get in the joint. Secondly, is there any kind of balcony and/or tables or chairs? I have been to the Chance on several occasions to see DT, and there's a nice balcony that we always try to get the railing on. I didn't know if there was more than one level at the Roxy. And the reason I ask about tables or chairs is because I may be going with my father who is a big man with bad knees. I don't know if he can take standing the whole night, and I want him to see the show. Private e-mails please. Thanks in advance, friends!! - Matt T. NP: Holy Dio Tribute - Disc 1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:13:17 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" To: Subject: Music Message-ID: >I honestly try very hard to appreciate a type of music >even if I don't like it. But if I try- who knows? >Maybe I will love it! Whether its Dream theater's >brand of Progressive Rock, Rodrigo's concerto de >aranjuez, john coltrane's recording of Giant steps, >Tori Amos's Album "little earthquakes," the latest >folk album from Dar Williams, the free jazz jam that I >just had the chance to attend, its all music to me! I >love a lot more of music as a result. Amen to that. I just happen to love music in general. There is just some that I prefer listening to over others. Sometimes, it can suprise you. I have a friend of mine who listens to a lot of Scandinavian folk-based music that is currently comming out right now. It is very interesting music, bordering on progressive sometimes. In fact, Garmarna put out one of the best CDs last year, IMO. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 21:06:06 GMT From: "Dimitri Kontos" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Metropolis played? Message-ID: Does anyone know if DT plays Metropolis at the end of their set. Please let me know. Thanks D ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 15:14:01 -0600 From: Seth Hatlelid To: Subject: I'm back, 2 Questions Message-ID: Hello, Ah, it's good to be back on the jam after about a year's absence. The last time I was on, the Bahr Wars were still in full swing and Ben Laussade was still on his "skull fucking" kick. Well, I guess that wraps up the intro, now to the meat of the questions: Is there a pre-gathering of jammers before the St. Louis DT show on Valentine's Day (it's a good thing my gf likes DT or I'd have been not screwed, or not screwed, oh whatever) What would be the best way to get the members of Dt to sign my bass? I got Megadeth to sign it last month while they were in town but that was a t a record store. Obviously, I'd rather not bring the bass to the show so does anyone know if DT has been waiting around after the show to meet and greet? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Also, it's a real shame about Marty Friedman, I'm just hoping Pitrelli doesn't join Megadeth, I mean he's great but I don't want him to leave Savatage, or better yet, just have Pitrelli and John Oliva join Megadeth. Imagine Megadeth with a keyboard player (drool)! Good to be back, Seth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:30:51 -0500 From: "Chris Willenbrock" To: Subject: Hammet & music in general Message-ID: <005201bf727b$c5ec3a00$message_id_removed> Now let me begin by saying hello. This is my first post to the jam (as far as I know). Let me also say that I have no talent for playing music. I don't know a thing about theory and I have never picked up a guitar in my life. Don't hold this against me. This *may* be hard for some of you to believe, but that doesn't mean I don't "know" music or can't "appreciate" it. After all, I'm here, aren't I? Music is very important to me. I consider it to be a driving force in my life. With a collection of nearly 300 CD's, I listen to a wide range of styles (this isn't by any means my way to start a pissing contest...just to illustrate my point). I know music. I know what I like to hear. I appreciate the talent that goes into playing music, but even moreso I am in awe of the talent that goes into writing music. What makes exceptional music, in my opinion, is the emotion that comes from a listening to a song. You might say one guitarist is better than another guitarist because of his use of this technique and this theory, but to me in the end one can play the most impressively complex piece and not have any emotion behind it. It comes off as sterile and dry. So you might be right in saying somebody is a better player because play in a more technical way than most can, but that doesn't necessarily make them a better writer. I consider Hammet to be a greater guitarist (at least in his earlier years) than most. One of the greatest moments of my collection is the solo in the song MoP. Beyond a doubt in my top 5. I can't say that he's a better player than the next guy, but the emotion that comes from some of his playing reaches me, and that makes him a great writer, in my opinion. Beyond opinions, you can't really say that this person is better than that person, or this band is better than that band. Some music clicks with me, some music doesn't, but I couldn't possibly say that the bands that I like are "better" than the ones I don't. What would one be gauging this argument on? Theory? That just doesn't hold water. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 14:11:37 PST From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: GA @Toad's Message-ID: some guy wrote:Who's planning on making the trek to the New Haven and Boston shows? How bad is the General Admission for DT shows? I've been to seem them a few times now but it was always seated.. I'm thinking a few hours ahead of time is good for a nice place on the floor.. Well, if yer under 21, you have to get to Toad's REALLY early, because there's sometimes a net up to keep you away from the drinking area, which comprises the ENTIRE floor, and then some. I got stuck way back for last years xmas show, and I was SO bitter, Especially since I don't drink anyway. But I saw Leftover Salmon there a few months later, and got there early enough to get up close to the stage, and it was OK. I hope it is that way for DT's gig there. And I saw Jazz is Dead there a coupla months back and the net was on the OTHER side of the stage, and that was really cool. Toad's is one of the best places I've EVER been to see a show, but not if that #@&@^n' net is up....oh well...hope that helped -Banjoman n.p. Col. Bruce Hampton and the Aquarium Rescue Unit - s/t ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "They don't speak very well english" - Some lady at work today ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 17:47:49 EST From: "M P" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Give me sight beyond.... nevermind Message-ID: >From: Eckie >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >Subject: Jimmy Page killed by Flock of Seagulls. Footage at 10. >Message-ID: >All rock musicians had to hold a day job before they made it big. Hey, >blowing rectal thermometers is serious business, somebody has to do it! >AND, it's an honest living! Man, that's the best laugh I've heard all day >And why isn't there a prog band named Sword of Omens yet? I'm willing to bet Arthur Rankin/Jules Bass have THAT bad boy trademarked with the rest of the characters. ;) >Now what the hell am I missing about the "front left breast" business? in case you aren't kidding: unless you're a mutant, all humans have breasts to the front. it's just redundant. A&D/J ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 23:47:23 +0000 From: Simon Wilkins To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5298 Message-ID: >>the relevance of email and the internet with your fuckin' spam. > >Spam? > > > >Spam? (Cue Vikings) Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam glorious spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam... egg beans bacon spam spam spam spam spam and spam See you in the Shepherd's Bush! Simon Totalise - the Users ISP To become a member and a shareholder - visit and join at http://www.totalise.net/go.htm?ref=s.wilkins ---------------------- www.AllAdvantage.com The Rules Have Changed...Get Paid To Surf The Web! Go to- http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=GTM-449 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:44:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin A. Loechner" To: The Ytsejam Subject: DREAM THEATER IN NEW ORLEANS!!! Message-ID: Hey Jammers, I am very excited today, because Dream Theater is actually going to play my humble home city of New Orleans, LA. I'm going to get the word out to the other 5 or so Dream Theater fans at Tulane, one of which I converted personally. Are there any other Louisiana Jammers out there in the New Orleans area who would like to get together for this show on March 8th. Hopefully everybody won't be too hungover after Mardi Gras, because this is the day after. If anybody plans on being here for Mardi Gras, send me a private email, and we might be able to get together a group of people. I also figure Dream Theater will actually be spending Mardi Gras in New Orleans, and hopefully I will actually see them in a crowd somewhere. Actually all of this comes after I have purchased bus tickets to go to Newark and see the show in Seabright, NJ, but I will still be attending the show in New Orleans since it is right in the middle of my "spring" break. I'm elated to find this out, so I may be rambling alot, but if you are interested contact me. The House of Blues is a pretty good venue here, as I saw Steve Vai there last year. Hey Kurt, I know you are in the area, so send me an email and we'll organize something. Later, Kevin --------------------------------------------- -- Kevin A. Loechner -- -- Department of Electrical Engineering -- -- and Computer Science, Tulane University -- -- email_address_removed -- -- http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kloechn -- --------------------------------------------- http://www.imagineradio.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=kevin2112 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 02:00:06 +0200 From: Janne Jokitalo To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Styx Message-ID: I am listening to Ytseradio right now, and some great music just caught my ears. Had to look what it is, and to my pleasant surprise, it said: Styx ! Well, I've seen before some guys mentioned that band but also I had seen not-so-good reviews about it and whatnot...So I did have mixed feelings about that band. But now, I think that I might really like its music, so, now I'm asking you guys, what's the album you'd recommend in getting first ? Thanks, - Jaska __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) From: Evan Hsun-Han Chou To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Another response to Greg Jones Message-ID: ------------------------------ Hello everyone, I'm new to the list, and this probably isn't the best way to introduce myself, but Mr. Jones's comments really bothered me, and I have to get this off my chest in general. 'dav w' very eloquently made the major points I wanted to make, but I just wanted to concur and kind of vent. :) >You obviously only play a little guitar. This is just sad. Do you really get off on putting other people down? What does this accomplish, really? If there's one thing the world doesn't need is someone going around crushing others' love of music by spouting useless pedantry. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. The message then goes on to try and teach us unwashed masses about music theory. Now, while Mr. Jones's statements about "guidelines" may have _some_ truth, this is a poor method of teaching. When I go to ask my professors for help on a subject, they don't say to me, "You're a stupid little man. Now here's how to be smart like me..." Even if these "guidelines" are correct, so what? You can follow some or none at all and still make great music. Case in point: After hearing Therion's "Theli", "Vovin" and "A'Arab Zaraq...", I thought Christofer Johnsson must be this awesome classical composer with tons of knowledge of music theory. He was even given an honorary award by the Swedish Classical Music Composers' Society (or something similar), for his classical compositions for a film soundtrack. Then I read this interview he gave: *snip* Q: What is your musical education? C.J.: None, I am 100% self taught. I had to learn notes when recording Theli though. *snip* And this is in a genre (classical) that probably values knowledge of theory more than any other! See, this the only problem I have with prog in general- there's always a few people who think they have some vast knowledge of music and pounce on anyone who doesn't agree with them. Even in death metal- I read this zine by some fool named "Bill Z. Bub" (get it? yuck yuck) who interviewed the mighty Dan Swano and said something like "The only people who would like Crimson (one of Dan's albums) are those who don't know anything about music, am I correct?" Now, I'm sure this guy has no balls and didn't say this to Dan's face and just stuck it in there afterwards like the Daily Show does. Nevertheless, this is just a moronic thing to say- you don't have to know anything about music to be able to appreciate it. If you think someone has less knowledge about theory than you, and you have this overwhelming urge to bitch at him/her, just take Mullmuzzler's advice: Keep It To Yourself. ***END LONG-ASS RANT*** ***Begin review of Metropolis tour*** Anyway, I went to the DT concert in San Francisco on Sunday and it was awesome. Best show I've ever been to. I say that every time I get back from a show, but I really mean it this time! :) LaBrie was totally on, his voice never cracked once, unlike in OiaL, and the "Intimate evening with Dream Theater" show I saw in Philly in '98. The crowd was totally into it, singing along during the quiet parts and headbanging and stomping enough to shake the floor during "Home"! The Dregs were excellent as well- definitely will have to pick up their latest album. All y'all going to see the show in the Midwest and East are in for a major kick in the butt! Have fun! Later, Evan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 16:04:26 -0800 From: Chris Oates To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: hm.... clues? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000208160426.009e8d00@objypop> Sarah wrote: > Jordan is an amazing pianist and keyboardist and he is such an asset to the > band. Let the man be cocky! He's heads and tails above any pianist I've heard ! Okay, so in the above message titled "jordan makes me want to go wee wee" -- we have the words "cocky" "head" "pianist" and, well "asset" and "tail" but I think those are anomolies. Methinks the author is suffering from pianist envy. (waits for either the drum roll or the thrown tomatoes) ~Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:43:16 +1100 From: mikel To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298 Message-ID: Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen and Jeff Beck all revolutionized guitar playing with very little theory knowledge. Actually most bluesy players could get away with no theory beyond the very basics. Of course you have to have a something to replace the theory- an excellent ear, heaps of imagination, great feel, fast fingers, stage presence, a musical goal or path etc. (Hendrix had all of these in great abundance which is why he sits at the top of most top guitarist lists, as opposed to other guitar nerds who may have worked their way through a jazz theory book). Still most of us, like me and Kirk Hammet, so a little theory and good technique can go a long way. > Back to the subject- Theory counts for nothing to > musicians like Cal Collins for example. Cal is a jazz > guitarist that learned COMEPLETLY by ear, and plays > better than a lot of other musicians can. Louis > Armstrong learned completly by ear as well, and led a > whole new movement and helped standardize (for lack of > a better term) a system of American Improvised music. > Jimi learned by ear too. Theory is a lot in music, > but it's not everything. Just because a person knows > it, doen't make them superior to anybody else, ever. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:57:55 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio To: "No Holds barred distribution list":; Subject: in mere moments Message-ID: We will be on the air. Point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. I have been getting reports that the nhbradiol.pls file comes across as text, so I am not sending it until I figure out what is wrong. Starting at 8 p.m, No Holds barred Radio!!! -- Damon Fibraio, and new guide dog Melody email: email_address_removed computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio every Tuesday night from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time. go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. Comedy on the Internet. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:53:22 -0600 From: "Mauricio Martinez" To: Subject: RE: XMAS CD RECEIVED! some spoilers.... Message-ID: <000201bf729d$15db78c0$3cbbfea9@pcfamilia> I got mine last wednesday and i live in Monterrey, Mexico. Pretty cool stuff!!!! but, how can i open the lyrics and the picture archives? Mauricio ----- Original Message ----- ]From: Wes Foll To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 7:13 PM Subject: XMAS CD RECEIVED! > > > Got mine just today in the mail! I'm in southern California so all you > others in this area be looking for it! I don't believe anybody will be > disappointed...I'm not! > > Cheers and here's to the weekend DT L.A. shows as well! > > ------------------------------------------------------ > If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and > there is no woman around to hear him ... is he still wrong? > > Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University > email_address_removed > email_address_removed > email_address_removed > ICQ #4550740 > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:31:35 +1100 From: email_address_removed.au To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT in Australia Message-ID: Hi everyone. Im mailing from Aussieland! Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a message through to the managers or even members of DT. I have a whole army of people in Australia who absolutely worship them. Including me of course. Me and my brother are constantly trying to figure out a way to get them over here. Any gig in Australia is a huge party anyways, so they'd probably love it if the got their asses over here!!! I would pay any money to see them live and its an ongoing dream of mine.. What are they like live? Any info you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Try lifting some shadows off our dreams... :-) Marie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 21:33:17 -0500 From: Aaron Griffith To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5298 Message-ID: Hi Rob, I'm up for a little meet n greet beforehand. Where do you want to meet? I live on 150 Mass Ave. We could meet here if you want and then go. I don't know. Just a thought. Email me back, if you can. Later, Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:52:33 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: greetings Message-ID: hello to all! i just wanted to introduce myself to the list. ive been readin the list for about a week now but too lazy to post. y'all are hilarious and interesting! keep up the craziness! i have a few questions: first, can someone clue me in to some other progressive bands besides DT (definition of "prog" notwithstanding)? i already listen to fates and planet x but cant get my hands on other stuff. second: is it me or is SFaM a superior album? ive had it since christmas and cannot stop listening to it. if it is, why? thirdly: should i go to the upcoming cinci concert? i have a few days to decide my fate....i would like to say this about the 100 greatest guitarist thread: i, like most of you was irritated to find that JP was not on the list (i was looking specifically for him as all good DT fans would). i quickly forgot about this until i saw it here. i thought about it and...who gives a shit whos on the fuckin list? who exactly composed the list? us? nope. was it produced by a magazine? yeah. literature of this nature only exists to convince or sway the readers opinion in one direction or another. thus, by even acknowledging this list, we have had our minds and hearts influenced by some fucking magazine we dont even write for! i know its fun to sit and read mags for free at barnes and nobles for hours but stop! magazines are the most useless form of entertainment in the world. as the dude says, "its a fuckin travesty, man." thanks for listening and forgive my lengthy introductory bullshit. jonathan "the missing key to unlock my minds door" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:04:48 -0800 From: Wes Foll To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: cool names Message-ID: >>Yeah ive noticed most good musicians have cool names :) >>off the top of my head : >>Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, of course the DT members, John Patitucci(sp?) >>Chick Corea (hows that for a pimpin' name!) , Mark Zonder, theres tons of >>cool europeans too... Mikael Akerfeldt (or god) , Dan Swano..Hell ..all the >>guy's names in Meshuggah .. HEH Let's not forget Devin Townsend. DEVY! ------------------------------------------------------ If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him ... is he still wrong? Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ICQ #4550740 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 22:19:51 EST From: "Doug Melvin" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Ingnorant list members and good keyboardists Message-ID: >IMO, keyboards were an untalented players' attempt to cover up bad >technique and undeveloped interpretational skills. Well, Sarah, let's all throw away our keyboards and worship ONLY Jorden Rudess. What you said is like saying "People only use distorted guitars to cover up how clumsy they actually are." That would be an ignorant statement, as yours was. There are talented guitarists who use distortion simply for effect, or because they want to have more sustain. You're essentially trying to say that >everyone< who uses a keyboard is covering up bad technique, right? Are you familiar with the keyboardist/pianist of Genesis, Tony Banks? He plays a 'mean' grand, and is an excellent keyboardist with GOOD technique. I'm sure he could humble you in two seconds flat on a grand or on a keyboard. But according to you he acutally has bad technique, but only when he plays the keyboard? That's ludicrous! You must be narrow-minded to think that a person is bad because he/she uses a keyboard, instead of a grand piano. I could find millions of counter-examples to prove that statement wrong. ~Doug Melvin "I just wanted to work with my hands. See something go from A to B. And somehow I ended up in the Ghetto of Beautiful Things." - Kevin Gilbert ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 22:54:52 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Minneapolis pre-show, Mars Music question, Dream Theater camps ! Message-ID: Hey gang : could someone send me the details on the MArs Music appearance in Minneapolis on the 11th ? As far as time, address, etc ? I would appreciate it....Me and my bud Randy will be at the Rock Bottom Cafe also for the pre-show...I'll be in my Ytsejam T-shirt (the definition one).... As an aside, I found out today a friend of mine met Dream Theater back in 94ish on July 3rd when they played Detroit Lakes, Minnesota.... She said they were camping in the campground right by her, with all the "common folk"...she said they were crazy and acted all weird, etc...and that no-one believed they were in a band.....Why the hell did'nt I camp with that group ? DAMN !!.. I told her I am so jelous she met them that I would find it hard to speak to her again...anyway, just a cool story I thought I'd share....that was a GREAT show, and the only time I saw Kev Moore with them.... Hope to meet a few of you in Mpls on Friday ! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:08:29 -0500 (EST) From: Digital Man To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5297 Message-ID: A thousand monkeys in Mark Metzger's ass typed: > Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 01:06:15 +0000 > From: "Carl J. Stawicki" > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5296 > > Dear Fuckers, > > I demand that you take my fuckin' name of this fuckin' list. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. > This is my second attempt to make this fuckin' happen > > It's fuckin' assholes like you that contaminate the whole idea behind > the relevance of email and the internet with your fuckin' spam. "I've heard the words 'internet' and 'spam' used in casual conversation by people who know more than me, so they must be cool words to use. Therefore, I'm going to use them to gather attention to myself. Watch!" *ring!* *ring!* Hear that? That's the clue phone. It's for you. > Fuck you. You haven't even bought us dinner yet. You young men today start so *early*! Oh, btw, friend, try the FAQ. You know, that thing that's mentioned in the e-mail you got when you subscribed? What? You deleted it? Wow, I'd hate to be in your shoes. --- > Eckie (AKA: The Mambo King) wrote: > >Don't belittle my people you bastard! Pretty soon...WE'LL ALL BE back > >breasted males! Oh, great. First, the YJLHB, now the YJBBB. --- > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 100 00:05:56 -0800 (PST) > From: "Paul W. Cashman" > Subject: Overselling venue > > As a veteran of the infamous Birch Hell Xmas show in Old Bridge NJ, I Great, thanks, Paul. I had almost completely forgotten about that one. Weirdest conversation of my entire life: Bafu: "D, you got 25 bucks?" Me: "Uh, why?" Bafu: "Tell me, you got 25 bucks?" Me: "You're not going to tell me why you're asking?" Bafu: "Come to the men's room with me." Me: "No fucking way!" It *was* worth it, though. The backstage pass I got for $25, that is, not... you sick poodles! Get your minds out of the gutter! Bafu only slept with Syrinx. In Skadz' roommate's bed. Maybe I should just unsub again. :) --- > Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 03:03:52 -0600 > From: Mark Peters > Subject: Caca > > > d-man's back. here comes the neighborhood. > You've been missed, buddy. Welcome back! You like me! You really like me! --- > Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 03:32:07 -0700 > From: Eckie > Subject: How to totally ruin a Dream Theater song > > The melody line in "Beyond This Life," to "All that we learned this [trimmed --kbibb] That's worse than the Wheel of Fortune theme? :) d "don't hate me because i'm beautiful" man ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough email_address_removed "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates email_address_removed /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5299 **************************