I hope you have some sucsess.. Let me knwo how you get on! :) ------------------------------------------------- Tristam Douglas email_address_removed.co.uk ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:25:06 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Keys playing & KevMo Message-ID: The way I understood it, that was true of keys in non-prog bands; but the impression that I got of prog bands with keyboards (and this is maybe why I, and several others, aren't so hot on Rush; because it was the keyboards that grabbed my attention so much with prog) was that the keyboards competed pretty much evenly with the guitars. Back before Marillion disbanded (y'know, just after their singer left), it always seemed that Mark Kelly was far more the dominant force in the band, occupying a comparable position to JP's in DT. And with pre-Topographic and recent (i.e. "good") YES, I think that the keys competed pretty evenly against Steve Howe, albeit solely by virtue that Chris Squire was the dominant player in YES. I see what you mean about KevMo's style, because I've almost appropriated the same sort of thing in my playing - things like flicking the bar down on the attack of a note, to give that pseudo-bent feel, stuff like that. As regards playing along with JP, there's a lot of places on I&W (like, most of Met1) where it sounds like JP's trying to catch up with KevMo - a lot of those parts have a feel like you'd struggle (or be a complete nutter) to write them on guitar; I just get the impression that much of it was written on keys. Now, wasn't that *nearly* coherent? Si ---original message--- > >> >Subject: Chris Ingles (Shadow Gallery) > >>>and I can't help but notice that Chris Ingles style is almost > >>>identical to Kevin Moore's pre-Chromakey... > >>I don't know if KM started the trend, or if he picked up > >>on an emerging one, but it seems his is among the most > >>copied for prog key-players nowadays, probably because > >>it gives them a chance to compete with the guitars. > >For the benefit of those of us who are marginally unaware of >the state >of keyboard solos / general playing pre- and post- > >KevMo, could you - or anyone else - elaborate on this post? > >Pre-Kev, synth/keys playing didn't stand out a whole lot; most >songs were guitar driven (and still are) - it'd the instrument >carrying the melody and the only one really doing anything fun >(solos). For the most part, the synth seems to serve as little >more than background noise, filling out the high end (usually >only just audible) as a substitute for a string section. > >Obviously, there are exceptions, Rick Wakeman and Keith >Emerson being two lead examples. Wakeman has a style a lot >like a concert pianist, even in his rock stuff. He doesn't >use pitch bend very much; his left hand is very much mobile; >what he plays is independent of what the rest of the band >does, yet supports it; and, perhaps the thing most people >have noticed and parodied, he has speed ("Attack of the >128th Notes"). I can't comment on Emerson's style, having heard >only two songs. > >Kevin's style departs from earlier players in that his is >almost a guitar-playing style. He uses pitch bend with great >subtlety, which probably sets him apart most from the rest. >He has the speed. Quite often on I&W he plays along with JP's >lines. >Another thing evident on I&W is use of color (dissonant notes), >in chords and chromatic runs, but this may be from JP's writing. >This can also be heard on early versions of ACOS. His sense >for emotive playing is also evident, but hard to copy; it's >one thing his imitators lack. > >Obviously Kevin had to have influences himself, but I don't know >who they'd be. Just how original his style is I can't say. >However, his influence has spread quite far in the past few >years. Several bands point to DT in their liner notes, and >a few keyboard players even name Kevin directly. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:52:52 -0500 From: "Wifreddy Chiang" To: "Ytsejam" Subject: About Xmas CD Message-ID: Can anyone please email me privately and tell me the tracklisting of the XmasCD, and their opinion about it. Im planning to join the fan club, so I need to know what should expect. Thanks. Will Np: Interstate Love Song.mp3 - Stone Temple Pilots ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:24:43 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT on Much Music's "Loud" Saturday night Message-ID: While flipping channels (whoa, that dates me, I haven't seen a channel flipper in about 20 years) between the Bucks-Sonics and Skinemax, I actually saw about half of DT's "Hollow Years" video. Boy, that's a lame video! Those concept videos, well, ugh. Not exactly the song to showcase on "Loud" either, but at least there was some exposure. Oh yeah, they also mangaged to name the band "Dream Theatre" as if that could be a shock... NP: Spiral Architect Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:53:36 -0600 From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: clarification Message-ID: just a sidenote: i don't want anyone to think that i'm trying to scalp those tickets i mentioned earlier. i'm willing to sell them for less than the cover price. i ordered them before i found out that DT was playing St. Louis. There's about 6 hours driving difference for me between St. Louis and chicago. between classes and work, it's alot easier to go to St. Louis. thanks, danny hutchinson "The truth is always the strongest argument" --Sophocles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:24:06 GMT From: "Bill Blanchard" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DC Jammers Reminder Message-ID: Just a reminder to all the DC Jammers who may have missed the original post. We are planning a get together at a restaraunt near the 9:30 club before the February 21st show. Anyone interested drop me an email. "Wild" Bill ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5286 **************************