YTSEJAM Digest 5261 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260 by "T. Beachler" 2) DTIFC news by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" 3) Tour Complaints / Huh? by Mike A Marshall 4) SoCal DT fan here by Wes Foll 5) Re: Mercyful Fate by email_address_removed 6) Re: Remastering/And Justice For All by email_address_removed 7) by Brian Hansen 8) Megadeth in LA by email_address_removed 9) Santana/Emotional songs by Brian Hansen 10) JP & Ibanez by email_address_removed 11) QR Grammy by "Matthew McDaniel" 12) Re: Minneapolis DT show by "Lisa" 13) TAMP/Eve by "Fran Brennan" 14) Re: JP & Ibanez by Jonathan D Willey 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260 by email_address_removed 16) DT show on the 1st by Dave M Klint 17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260 by email_address_removed 18) Re: JP & Ibanez by Scott Sturdivant 19) Re: Emotional by "Andy Putman" 20) Prog samplers and the mysteries of YTSEJAM 5260 by "M P" 21) Re: JP and Ibanez by Matej Grginic 22) RE: toto drummer by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_Hagstr=F6m?=" 23) Re: huh!?!? by Linus Akesson 24) Re: Competition within bands by Janne Jokitalo 25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5258 by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:36:48 -0800 (PST) From: "T. Beachler" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260 Message-ID: Check out the 'Monkey Links' It's a form of Unix, so to speak >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 >From: CyberDuke >To: Ytsejam >Subject: huh*&#$*&@ > >What the hell is this? :) >http://dreamtheater.net/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:41:06 -0600 From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" To: Subject: DTIFC news Message-ID: <008c01bf5a31$d66b0b20$0101a8c0@pavilion> Hey all, Sorry I've been delinquent in posting to the 'jam lately. You can send me my lumps of coal later. ;) Seriously, I've been absolutely swamped with email and snail mail, not to mention my JOB job, so I haven't really had time to read the 'jam in the past few weeks. Damon wrote: >I asked this question once before. Who is handling the u.s. fan club >and how do you know when your subscription is up. Um, that would be me. :) I thought someone had announced it here back in October, and I know that it was announced both on www.dreamtheater.net and www.mikeportnoy.com months ago. But I guess word travels slowly these days. (Speaking of which, my last name is no longer McWatters, and my bird is still alive and well.) ;) For existing DTIFC members: you'll know your subscription is up if you receive a notice with this quarter's fanzine. If you don't receive a renewal notice, you can probably assume that it's not time to renew yet. Fanzines and Christmas CDs are being shipped as we speak. They're late due to a delay in processing the CDs. So right now (unless something changes) it's too late for new people to sign up to receive the CD. Also, please note that it will take up to 4-5 weeks for the fanzines and CDs to arrive in the United States/North America from Holland. Some locations, especially those in Europe, will get them sooner. So if everyone could be really patient, I would really appreciate it. :) If you need anything, please read the US information at: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/usdtifc.html FIRST before sending me any questions via email. If you *really* need to verify your subscription, you can email me, but I ask that you not do that unless it's an extreme emergency. As it is, it's too late to sign up. So if you're not already a member, there's not much I can do. Anyway, I hope this clears things up. If I can ever do anything to help, please don't hesitate to contact me. -Nicole/Kirby braces for a ton of email and heads for the hills... Nicole Stachowicz US Coordinator for the Dream Theater International Fan Club http://www.mikeportnoy.com/usdtifc.html Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112 #ytsejam and #ytseradio YtseKirby on irc.ram-page.com:6667 #mikechat email_address_removed -=- http://www.christopherlloyd.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:01:16 -0600 From: Mike A Marshall To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tour Complaints / Huh? Message-ID: >Subject: Tour complaints >hey guys, Is it just me or is this a bad situation. Tickets for all of teh shows >announced are on sale as of now, so if you are not sure about DT Yeah, i'm sure this creates a sticky situation for a lot of fans. I'm in the same boat - I'd rather attend a show in Indy or somewhere in Ohio, but the tour dates published so far cut short just before that! I know Mike doesn't have anything to do with this - its the promoter's business, and they can only do so much at a time. But, not wanting to miss this, I've purchased my tix for Milwaukee and Chicago and am preparing for the long-ass drive! And, hey, if they do arrange a show in Indy, Cincy, or Dayton (maybe even Columbus), I'll just get to see several shows in the week! I hope that the tour is successful, 'cause then there could be a second US leg after the European dates! >Subject: huh*&#$*&@ > >What the hell is this? :) > >http://dreamtheater.net/ If you check the Links page, you'll see that the FreeBSD Monkey Project people are the same ones that host OFB's www.dreamtheater.net (as well as www.shadowgallery.com), so they probably took the www-less name for protection from URL-poachers, or they're fans as well. M. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 16:19:29 -0800 From: Wes Foll To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Cc: email_address_removed Subject: SoCal DT fan here Message-ID: >From: email_address_removed >Subject: "Wanted" SoCal DT Fans........ >I live in SoCal and I've been trying to locate some others that share the >same interests in DT. I will be going to the shows here in OC and LA. Are >there any others that will going and meeting up somewhere and getting >together ? I live in Ontario, any one else live close by ? > > >Big Daddy I'm near San Berdu (Loma Linda). I'm going to the saturday night show. I still need to purchase a ticket however. I'd also like to know if there's going to be some kind of get together before the one on the 5th. Also, if anyone wants to hook up at the Anthrax show at the House of blues in L.A., I'd get into that. I've already got a ticket for that show. I'm a displaced eastern jammer from Atlanta and don't really know any jammers out here either yet. Let me know if/when anyone wants to hang out before/after the show! ------------------------------------------------------ What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ICQ #4550740 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:08:10 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate Message-ID: >PS. I picked up Merciful Fate's "9" This shit makes Type-O-Negative sound > like the Statler Brothers! Speaking of Mercyful Fate, I' don't own any of their albums but I've been meaning to pick up "Melissa." Just wondering if their are any Mercyful Fate fans out there and what albums they could recommend me getting. Thanks! -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:19:59 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Remastering/And Justice For All Message-ID: >looking for a definition of 'remastering', a thought brought on by my idea >that it has something to do with cleaning up the sound on prior versions of >released albums, and the fact that I was listening to >Metallica's "...and justice for all" CD yesterday. >methinks that with a good production job, that might land a place on my all >time top 20 fave discs lists, but as it is now, some spots are just tough to >listen to.... >partha I remember when Led Zepllin's stuff was remastered Jimmy Page was saying that, ideally, when material is transferred to CD from tape that there is a process that must occur for it to soud right. Many times companies ignored this process and just through the stuff out on CD. By using this process, which is "remastering," the material is as close to the original recording as possible. Or something like that. It's got nothing to do with the production or the mixing. I think a lot of the older CDs were from when music was recorded using analog instead of digitally like is common now. (I think at least. I'm no expert on this stuff by any means whatsoever). So sometimes if ya have a CD with music form the 80's or 70's it might sound a lot better when remastered. SOmetimes though it jsut doesn't make that big a difference. And I hear what you're saying about And Justice For All. It is the dryest sounding thing I have ever heard. The songs on there are amazing though IMO. For some reason (perhaps becasue they lacked confidence in him?) much of Jason's bassplaying is either very low or just not on there. does anyone out there no the deal behind the production on that album? -Mike C. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:04:04 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Message-ID: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:11:00 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Megadeth in LA Message-ID: Hi yall, Did any of you go to the Megadeth show at the House of Blues on Friday, January 7? I was there, but damn me, I forgot to get down the set list. If anyone has it, I would appreciate it if you could send it my way. Many thanks. Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:18:23 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Santana/Emotional songs Message-ID: Wow. I never thought I'd see all this support for one of my favorite artists. I thought I was the only one around here who liked Santana. One of those great guitar players that really sings with the guitar. With all this talk about emotional songs, you gotta give Carlos credit for putting a lot of emotion into his playing. (I may be a bit biased in this discussion, as I learned to play guitar by emulating Santana, as well as Jimmy Page, Ronnie Montrose and David Gilmour.) my $.02, BH For a real emotional song, put on The Cure's "The Same Deep Water As You". Put this single song on repeat mode, and listen for 8 hours straight. If you don't like The Cure, do the same thing with Space-Dye Vest. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:19:01 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JP & Ibanez Message-ID: You know what....if he has split with Ibanez and gone to Ernie ball, great. It just means that if Ibanez wants to get him back there will have to be more money and respect. In fact, this has happened once before with DT too...anyone recall Mike was originally a Tama endorser. Then Awake came out and we had MP behind Mapex kits. One tour later, he back to being a Tama endorser. Life is strange that way ;) Just goes to prove a point that Tama NEVER should have let him go the first time around. Oh, and on the other thread with regard to Metal Grammys, QR was nominated in 1989 in the Best Metal Performance (vocal or Instrumental) for "I Don't Believe In Love". AFAIK Operation Mindcrime was never nominated as a full length. And yes the lost that year to Metallica's "one". The only reason Metallica took home the Grammy was for the 1988 fiasco with Jethro Tull-Crest of a Knave. And in case you were wondering about that 1988 Tull Grammy, the other nominees were AC/DC-Blow Up You Video, Jane's Addiction-Nothing's Shocking, Metallica-AJFA, and Iggy Pop-Cold Metal. WFU NP: Superior - Behind (cause I found it in a used bin for $3.49) :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 22:34:44 EST From: "Matthew McDaniel" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: QR Grammy Message-ID: >(one question, did Queensryche actually get a nomination for Operation: >Mindcrime?) > >grammys. The thing's a joke anyway. I mean, in 89 Jethro Tull won a > >Grammy > >for best metal album over Metallica's An Justice For All and > >Queensryche's > >Operation Mincrime! After months of lurking I'm not sure why I decided to jump into the fire about a topic I'm not positive about, but here goes. I was thinking that QR's Grammy nomination was actually for Empire. After all, the general music population had never heard of QR before Silent Lucidity, which was on Empire. Of course, O:M is more deserving of an award IMO. Anyone know for sure? ~Just another Matt N.P. Bride: Oddities ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:46:58 -0600 From: "Lisa" To: Subject: Re: Minneapolis DT show Message-ID: <006801bf5a5d$4d4ccb40$c820420c@lil-dragyn> >I'll be there! If you're coming from the east perhaps you could blow by >the ProGtoligist Ponderosa and goof off until the show. I live about 18 >miles east of the venue. Several of us are going to car-pool from here to >avoid parking hassles. >Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist Hey, well actually four of us are coming down from the north west (as in Fargo ND) but maybe we could hook up anyway? anyone else out there? drop me an email and we'll see who can meet where when etc. ~Lisa email_address_removed YtseDrgn on IRC ~ ICQ# 42437079 ~ YtseDragyn13 on AIM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 20:54:58 PST From: "Fran Brennan" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: TAMP/Eve Message-ID: someone wrote:Just putting in my two cents...the most emotional DT song is "Take Away My Pain" Y'know, I never really dug TAMP on FII. It was an okay song, but nothing special. But then when I picked up OIAL, I was totally floored. That sax solo is one of the most emotional things I've ever heard. TAMP is now one of my fave DT ballads, and I NEVER listen to the FII version. Has Jay Beckenstein collaborated with DT other than what's heard on I&W and OIAL? Also, I finally snagged me up an mp3 of "Eve" from napster.com (check this site out!!!). After a few listens, I think I figured out what makes it so emotional; because the feel changes with every chord change. It starts out triumphant sounding, like something bad is FINALLY over, but then, when the chord changes, it turns despondant. It does this over and over, which is why it's such an emotional ride, imho Oh, and Korgy, I think you nailed the 'cuban boy' thing right on the head. -Banjoman np: Ravi Shankar - Raga Mala (sitar concerto #2) p.s. I really hope Jerry Goodman sits in for part of DT's set. Imagine DT meets Mahavishnu! Yikes!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth - Neil Peart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:58:12 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: JP & Ibanez Message-ID: > In fact, this has happened once before with DT too...anyone recall > Mike was > originally a Tama endorser. Then Awake came out and we had MP > behind Mapex > kits. One tour later, he back to being a Tama endorser. Life is > strange > that way ;) Just goes to prove a point that Tama NEVER should have > let him > go the first time around. Mike may be able to clear this up but I think he may have also made the move back because Tama came out with the Starclassic maple kits and such. They made a big jump from the Rockstar kits to the Starclassic ones... theyare fantastic kits IMO... my thoughts ytsejon ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:16:04 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260 Message-ID: << methinks that with a good production job, that might land a place on my all time top 20 fave discs lists, but as it is now, some spots are just tough to listen to.... >> Hmm, this Cd could have been recorded on my home stero and I would STILL love it to death. Its a freaking amazing piece of work. Everyone says the production sucks on it, but I disagree. I think it sound awesome. I actually think of the way it sounds when I think of the album, which makes it more distinct then any other. The vocal style of James at that time(the only time we hear him with a gruffer voice), and the LOUD dry drums. Shrug, I love every minute of the CD and wouldnt waste my money on a "remastered" version of it. On the other hand:> I keep trying to get myself to buy Rush's "Hemishperes" (which has been spoken of highly and I even have a CDR sampler of it from a really cool guy in the DT NG) but I keep shurgging it off. The CD is remastered and all, but I dont know why I can't just get myself to buy it . . . RaY -The rain is falling . . .- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:48:40 -0500 From: Dave M Klint To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT show on the 1st Message-ID: After finding out that Spock's Beard is opening for the DT shows on _only_ the 1st and 2nd, I must figure out a way to make it from New York to there without spending so much time that I fail out of school. Does anyone have a line on getting good plane ticket prices? What if we get a gang of east coast fans and see if we can get the plane tickets cheaper? I'd drive but I can't miss the week of school that it would take. Any ideas? I MUST SEE THIS SHOW. -davek ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:55:08 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260 Message-ID: << I think it is a shame that a player seems to play the guitar because he has got a deal rather than he/she believes it to be the best instrument. >> They don't always....When I saw Van Halen eddie used his Marshells, not the 5150. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 01:05:11 -0500 From: Scott Sturdivant To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: JP & Ibanez Message-ID: > Mike may be able to clear this up but I think he may have also made the > move back because Tama came out with the Starclassic maple kits and such. > They made a big jump from the Rockstar kits to the Starclassic ones... > theyare fantastic kits IMO... I don't really know if I'm right or not, but I'm pretty positive that Mike has ALWAYS been a fan of Tama. If I remember correctly from his clinic at the LI Drum Center, he bought his first kit there - the Tama beaut that showed up for the softer songs of the FII tour as well as the LTE sessions. So, with Mike's love for Tama, I doubt that he willingly left their sponsorship. So to whoever said that he was booted then brought back is (I think) correct. I'm just curious why he was let go.. And yes, the starclassics do rock. Kind of expensive...but hey, they sound great! Scott. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:07:48 CST From: "Andy Putman" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Emotional Message-ID: >This emotional song thread... I just had to join in and say that >Tchaikovsky's Symphony no. 6 "Path=E9tique" is THE emotional piece. On the subject of orchestral music, I would have to say that the most emotional piece I have heard is Mahler's 9th symphony. At some point in their lives everyone should sit down in a dark room with candles and meditate on death with the great Gustav Mahler. It is truly a wonderful experience. -Andy Putman ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 02:46:46 -0500 From: "M P" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Prog samplers and the mysteries of YTSEJAM 5260 Message-ID:
wit= h apologies for the last message, which turned into spam
because of difficulties here.


the site at dreamtheater.net hosts www.dreamtheater.net
don't forget the www., or you go to the parent org.


Subject: Entropia

>Personaly, I think Entropia is BETTER then ONe Hour . . . One
>hour has a really formulized song pattern, each song has a slow
= > middle section, where everything breaks down in a slow piece. =A0I=
> love those parts, and I think One hours kicks ass, but Entropia > isnt formulized at ALL. =A0Its psycho and its  fuckin amazing= :> =A0

What he said ;)

I also prefer the mix better - A/J


Subject: Re: toto drummer
>Is anyone here at all peeved about this Cuban Boy crisis thing?
= > =A0What a bunch of crap. =A0Where's King Solomon when you need him= ?
>=A0Chop the little fucker in two

sadly, Mr. X-Ray, if their grandstanding would appear the better
for it, the governments would probably do your modest proposal.
- U/J


Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 04:09:15 -0600
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Stuff that stirs the soul
>Whew.... =A0 Just be thankful I didn't drag the vinyl out.. :)
>I'd really be surprised if someone knew every tune in the list.. >=A0Anyone?

well, I know all but two of the bands (Orr and Engine). does
that count?  - D/J


Subject: Viva Santana

>> Imaging a world without Journey,
>I have no problem about that at all! :)

Journey USED TO BE a prog band. check out their pre-Open Arms
stuff.


Prog samplers. I've got a few.
The broadest, cross-label collection you're likely to find
is "Supernatural Fairy Tales" from Rhino records, a 5 CD
set of old-school goodies. How representative they all are
is up to debate, but it does give a good look at what is out
there.
Other good stuff:
Progfest live samplers. This annual event hosts mostly recently
developed bands (with a few classics like Magma(!) last year)
and releases a compilation of the concerts.
Labels are always making up compilations. Check out Musea,
Cuneiform/Cuneiway, Pangea, Laser's Edge, and even Magna Carta
(every tribute album is a sampler).

- D/J







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------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:13:40 +0100 From: Matej Grginic To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: JP and Ibanez Message-ID: >Well I have to say that I will be keen to see what EB come up with for JP. >IMHO I believe the Ernie Ball guitars are very nice. I wonder why EB >though? not PRS or Anderson or some other make. (I know about the >non-locking PRS trems and the TA only ever have 22 frets; I am just >speculating.) I think it is a shame that a player seems to play the guitar >because he has got a deal rather than he/she believes it to be the best >instrument. John without a doubt belives he's playing an awesome guitar. And I don't blame him for leaving Ibenez for money reasons (if this thing is for real). His name on guitar is worth alot and if the company can't aprecciate it, oh well, there are tons of great companies out there who will build awesome guitars with any specs artist chooses. >I wonder if the contractual details are about money, number of guitars, >advertising or what. I know that SV and JS are the premier Ibanez endorses. >I know Vai has been with them for 15 years but it was him who invented the >RG/jem body and the back routed trem etc. etc. etc. So Via is an >intellectual share holder in Ibanez so to speak. He really designed the >break through instrument for them. Besides he loves his Ibanez guitars, you >just need to read any interview where he discusses them. I have never >hear/read about JP enthusing over his guitars like Via. Maybe JP just sees >them as more of a tool. Wrong. I had an oportunity of buying his acoustic guitar (and my best friend bought one of the electrics) and we had a lenghty discussion about guitars with John. He was quite enthusiastic about his guitars and little details that made them so special. And he frequently emphasised in various guitar mags how cool his guitars are, and how he can really nail the sound he wants with them. If this thing is for real, I'll be very curious about what kind of guitar EB & John will make. Because there was a roumor that he's building a new guitar with Ibanez, I asked him about it and he mummbled something about it being made out of mohogony. I wonder if he was talking about his new EB guitar :) Matej ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 13:42:52 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_Hagstr=F6m?=" To: Subject: RE: toto drummer Message-ID: <001a01bf5a9f$1edc09a0$message_id_removed> >I saw people talking about the toto drummer being cool, and I'm sure if = you=20 >really wanted to hear what he's got, just buy his solo album, don't = know what=20 >it's called exactly, Magna Carta carries it. And yes, he is rather on = the=20 >good side ;) Actually he've released 5 solo albums. The first two are next to = impossible to find. - Protocol (1989) - Force Majeure, Live (1993) - Symbiosis (1995) - Another Lifetime (1997, released on Magna Carta)=20 - Out Of The Blue, Live (1999) Musically it's rock-jazz-fusion with emphasis on the drumming. To view my thoughts on the albums you can check my site on=20 http://come.to/past.to.present (under the 'related albums' section) >Yeah, but Simon Phillips hasn't >always< been their drummer. All of = the >stuff I've heard has been with Jeff Porcaro, to my knowledge. He was a >pretty good drummer in his own right. May the worms stop eating him >someday. (in other words, he dead). Simon have been the drummer of TOTO since 1992 right after the tragic = death of session legend Jeff Porcaro. Jeff Porcaro is my biggest hero of = all time, his feel and time was out of this world! He didn't play flashy = stuff like Mr. Portnoy, Mr. Phillips & Mr. Colaiuta. But with over 2000 = released recordings featuring his drumming there's no question about how = big this LA cat was. Jim Keltner called him "The man with the golden = groove".=20 Every drummer who have taken lessons have played the "Rosanna" groove = which is Jeff's. I think Portnoy played a part of it on atleast one of = his drum clinics in Europe. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:11:10 +0200 From: Linus Akesson To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: huh!?!? Message-ID: In accordance with the prophecy, CyberDuke uttered: > What the hell is this? :) > http://dreamtheater.net/ Lol! That was fun. The real site is at www.dreamtheater.net of course. Linus ============================================================================ I'd love to, but I'm building a pig from a kit. ============================================================================ email_address_removed, visit http://linusworld.cjb.net (PGP key available). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 17:36:08 +0200 From: Janne Jokitalo To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Competition within bands Message-ID: "Carlos A. Alfaro" wrote: > > Tristam Douglas wrote: > > > > > If Derek was less of a threat with regards to upstaging JP than say KM/JR > > this may > > explain why the band was less innovative. I am not talking in terms of > > musical merit or style here thought. > > Well IMO lines in the sand has Jp's most inovative (different for him) moving > and one of the most beautiful solos hes played yet i think. Same with the > "lead" on Hells Kitchen. Hell even the Take away my pain solo is awesome. This is nice, finally seeing a growing amount of people liking FII stuff, and specially TAMP from it. It's one of my favourite song on FII, but also in general. It moves me so much, especially the live version, although I prefer JP's solo over the sax in OIALT. -- Janne Jokitalo email_address_removed __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:36:04 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5258 Message-ID: In a message dated 1/6/00 9:54:35 PM Central Standard Time, Dustro2 writes << hey i need tix for the riv too!!! please help us!! >> You got them already dicknose ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5261 **************************