YTSEJAM Digest 5238 Today's Topics: 1) Who could replace Portnoy? Er...nobody. :) by Phil Carter 2) by "Isaac Trumbo" 3) Favorite album survey by "Dave Peterson" 4) Re: Polyrythmic King? by Younis Hilal 5) Re: Lyrical sophistication. by email_address_removed 6) What's all this? by Kurt M Hampton 7) RE: What's all this? by David Dixon 8) TSO X-Mas Special Rerun on December 23 by email_address_removed 9) RE: Info on finding out about European prog tours? by "Simon Long Krogh" 10) speakers identity ? by email_address_removed.de (Christoph Bauer) 11) Lyrics SFAM ??? by email_address_removed.de (Christoph Bauer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:45:06 -0500 From: Phil Carter To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse Subject: Who could replace Portnoy? Er...nobody. :) Message-ID: Greetings ye 'jamanoids...... I think something that just about everyone's overlooking is something that would suck a lot more if Mike Portnoy (perish the thought) ever left DT. There wouldn't be one quarter the band interaction with the fans!!!! Portnoy is one of the most outgoing and gregarious people I've ever met, and to have that sort of personality in a "rock musician" these days is something of a rarity. It's so great to have the drummer hanging out after the show and chatting with all the fans, only to get practically dragged onto the bus because they were about to leave without him. :) No. It would be damn hard to find somebody with the combination of chops, songwriting skill, rhythm, AND total damned friendliness to fans that Mike brings to the group. Let's all rejoice in the fact that we have Mikey P behind the kit! cheers, Phil ================================================== Phil Carter -- email_address_removed -- http://users.usefulware.com/phil "My heart, which is so full to overflowing, has often been solaced and refreshed by music when sick and weary." -- Martin Luther ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:18:14 GMT From: "Isaac Trumbo" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Message-ID: hey al.. check out www.realdoll.com i think they got the perfect girl for ya just call me "santa" :) inferno NP: Miles Davis - Miles In The Sky >Dear Santa, > > I haven't written a letter to you in decades. I feel it's safe to say >I've never asked for much. I'd like some credit for that applied to this >years request. Santa, I want the perfect woman. With the face of a >goddess, Body of a Cosmopolitan cover girl, voice of an angel, and the >wisdom of Solomon...Oh yeah, dentures would be a nice touch... > >PS. There's some *special* cookies in it for you. I'd recommend not >giving any of them to the reindeer. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:26:52 PST From: "Dave Peterson" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Favorite album survey Message-ID: If you haven't sent in your vote for your favorite Dream Theater album, please do! Send them to email_address_removed with the title of the album in the subject line. So far, I think the people that have an "agenda" have been doing a lot of the voting. Let's have FULL participation and let's get the REAL list of everyone's favorite! You'd be surprised at the results so far! Speak for your album! It will love you for it! - Dr. Teeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:29:35 -0800 (PST) From: Younis Hilal To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Polyrythmic King? Message-ID: On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote: > From: David Dixon > Subject: RE: Polyrythmic King? > > I am a fan of Meshuggah dude's work (I can't remember his name either), but OK. For you and the other guy who couldn't remember his name, it's Tomas Haake. Just so you have an easier time of remembering it (Tomas Haake), the name will be repeated (Tomas Haake) a few more times in this message:). As for Tomas Haake being a polyrhythmic king, Haake himself views his playing a lot differently (Tomas Haake). He had an interview in Modern Drummer (Oct. '99) where he basically discusses some of the difficulties in working out (Tomas Haake) what to play on the Meshuggah CDs, and how he still hasn't gained any (Tomas Haake) mastery over the music that Meshuggah writes (Tomas Haake). You get the sense that playing drums in Meshuggah is usually a bit (Tomas Haake) of a struggle, and that he has a ways to go before he would crown himself a polyrhythmic king. I just thought that was (Tomas Haake) worth mentioning. > nobody comes CLOSE to Mangini. I've seen him do clinics and shows with > Steve Vai, and anybody that can carry different weird-ass time sigs with > each of his limbs SIMULTANEOUSLY is my hero. In his clinic, he played 13 Well, this brings up a question that I haven't been able to find an answer to for maybe 6 months now (maybe it's because I never asked it here before, hehe): where do I find great examples of Mangini laying down some rhythmic insanity? I've looked at some Extreme tracks (pretty sure they were Mangini-era), I have a Vai mp3 (from Fire Garden, I believe), and I've heard Mullmuzzler. On what I've heard, he's mostly a straight-rock drummer, very much contradicting what I've read about him here and in Modern Drummer and a few other places. So, aside from instructional videos, can anybody point me to any recorded CDs that show a more "uninhibited" side of Mangini (note: the more insane, the better)? Younis email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 02:37:05 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Lyrical sophistication. Message-ID: >< I was just wondering what was the general consensus with regards to DT lyrics. What is generally considered to be the best effort. I can't isolate a particular piece but I have to say that I think Awake was the strongest album. My reasons for this: the imagery employed seemed to push my buttons so to speak. (BTW I am not Christian.) Any other thoughts? >< I've always liked their lyrics. A lot of people say DTs lyrics are "cheesy." they definitely are sometimes, but overall theyre good. sometimes the lyrics are pseudo-intelligent, sometimes cheesy. cant decide if I&W or Awake has better lyrics. I think Myung writes the best lyrics. AcoS is one of their best songs lyrically. SFAM lyrics werent great, but they had to sacrifice good lyrics for a concept album. lyrics on FII were weak. only JLMB and ToT had good lyrics. jim np - clockwork: surface tension (incredble music, sometimes irritating singer) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:33:01 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: What's all this? Message-ID: Goodness, I don't check my mail for two days, and people want to replace MP with a drum machine or Mike Mangini? MIKE IS DT! PERIOD! Just like James and Lars are Metallica, Dave is Megacrap (I can say that after the last show) Geoff and Chris are...wait nevermind. Anyway, Keyboard changes are ok, brings new life into the band. Personally, I love JR sound and style, but Kevin wrote some wicked lyrics. If any other member, and I stress ANY , I don't think they would continue, or if they did they would lose a lot of fans, and lose their sound. Why let the man who provides so much pleasure and enjoyment in our life, and who's music has really become the backbone of our lives (well for me) read this crap. Lets end this please. Kurt NP-TSO "A Savatge Christmas" -Christmas Attic "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going"-Doubledrive New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out In Stores NOW! "I don't know how the guys in Slayer are going to live past 40"-Paul Blocker See Queensryche on Tour this fall! www.queensryche.com for latest dates! ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:49:20 -0700 From: David Dixon To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: RE: What's all this? Message-ID: > Goodness, I don't check my mail for two days, and people want to replace > MP with a drum machine or Mike Mangini? MIKE IS DT! PERIOD! Just like > James and Lars are Metallica, Dave is Megacrap (I can say that after the > last show) Geoff and Chris are...wait nevermind. Anyway, Keyboard changes > are ok, brings new life into the band. Personally, I love JR sound and > style, but Kevin wrote some wicked lyrics. If any other member, and I > stress ANY , I don't think they would continue, or if they did they would > lose a lot of fans, and lose their sound. Why let the man who provides > so much pleasure and enjoyment in our life, and who's music has really > become the backbone of our lives (well for me) read this crap. Lets end > this please. I think I've been a little unclear in my posts about Mangini. I only mean to say that, from a merely FUNCTIONAL time-keeper standpoint, Mike Mangini is about the only person that could hack it. He has no place in DT, and nobody else does either. This is Mike Portnoy's band, and his replacement would OBVIOUSLY mean the end of DT. Reading back through a couple of my posts, I see where you could have mistaken me for taking the opposite view. Portnoy is a fabulous, musical drummer, and I don't mean to bag on him in any way... :) I also agree that if ANY other member besides the keyboard player was ever replaced, DT would be done. Even the ever-quiet Myung (though obviously a fabulous bassist) is crucial to the chemistry of DT. DT without JM? DT without MP? Never. DT without JP? Never. DT without KJLB? Never again... :) Happy Holidays! David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 16:16:25 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: TSO X-Mas Special Rerun on December 23 Message-ID: Hey everyone - To those of you who were lamenting the fact you missed the TSO X-Mas Special on TV the other night, you will apparently have a chance to redeem yourself. The official TSO website (www.trans-siberian.com) reports that the show will be rerun on the Fox Family Channel sometime on Thursday, December 23. They don't list the exact time, however. Tomorrow is when the weekly TV listings come in our Sunday paper, but in case I forget to check the exact time, I wanted to let you all know that it's going to be on again. And to those requesting video dubs of the show, I'd like to help you but I only have one working VCR. Sorry! :-) Laterz... Matt T. NP: "Hold On" by Triumph (an awesome but frequently forgotten band) on HardRadio ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:16:06 +0100 From: "Simon Long Krogh" To: "The Ytsejam Mailinglist" Subject: RE: Info on finding out about European prog tours? Message-ID: "Charlie_Farrell" wrote: > >with everyone staying at home to recover from >the cost of Christmas. > ..and from the hangover of newyears eve...:) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Dec 1999 12:20:00 +0100 From: email_address_removed.de (Christoph Bauer) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: speakers identity ? Message-ID: Hey again, Sorry if I missed this. But I didn't read something about the hypno's identity. Who is it? I'm interested in this because there was a qoute of MP in a mag that this is a famous American Actor... Ciao, C. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Dec 1999 12:16:00 +0100 From: email_address_removed.de (Christoph Bauer) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Lyrics SFAM ??? Message-ID: Hey Guys, As a blind, I'm really looking forward reading the lyrics. But they still aren't included in the unofficial Songbook. Anybody know another place on the net where I can find them??? Thanks, C. ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5238 **************************