YTSEJAM Digest 5228 Today's Topics: 1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5227 by email_address_removed 2) Re: recommendations, purchases by "Sasha" 3) <---Philly Guitarist Seeking DT-like prog band by email_address_removed 4) <---Philly Guitarist Seeking DT-like prog band by email_address_removed 5) Re: I feel like a kid again.. by "Adriano F. Giacomini" 6) Any UK jammer going to see Yes? by "Tristam Douglas" 7) BG/Tolkien question by "Alex O'Connell" 8) Re: Panasonic Portables by Matt Johnston 9) Re: TSO/Just got another boot (Mike's vocals on Cover my Eyes by Kurt M Hampton 10) Re: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... by Michael Kizer 11) Re: Metal Edge's review of SFaM by email_address_removed 12) Re: Portable CD players by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" 13) Re: Gold by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" 14) greatful dead by "Isaac Trumbo" 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5227 by MOSSMAN BENJAMIN ERRAMOUSPE 16) Jeff Buckley Sighting! by Jonathan D Willey 17) Re: MP video "review" of sorts?? by Jonathan D Willey 18) Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! by Brian D Hayden 19) Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! by "Korg Ecksthrey" 20) Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! by Jonathan D Willey 21) Re: TSO/Just got another boot (Mike's vocals on Cover my Eyes by "Edward Polzin" 22) Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! by Brian D Hayden 23) Pink Floyd by Abu Shams Ahmed 24) WHERE'S THE JAM AT?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by email_address_removed 25) Re: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... by email_address_removed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 05:43:21 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5227 Message-ID: In a message dated 99-12-11 04:06:34 EST, you write: << Phish kicks ass.......hey richie, go fuck yourself...ur ignorant and ur probably 12. Fact Check #1: 1. I was only kidding about the rip-off comment. 2. I'll be 24 at the end of the month 3. If you use "ur," you lose the right to call someone else ignorant 4. I graduated from the University Of Vermont in Burlington, VT, the hometown of Phish. I was subjected to their music at every turn for 4 years. I am very familiar with Phish's music (and was before I attended) and their legacy (you can only eat those disgusting gravy fries at Nectar's so many times before somebody comes up to you and says, "Dude, you know Phish used to.....") 5. I think Phish sucks You can not like the music, but hey, at least respect the shit. BTW.....grateful dead kicked ass too....if you dont like that, eat a dick. Fact Check#2 1. I never said I didn't respect "the shit." I actually have a lot of respect for them as musicians. I just don't like them. 2. See the above for the Grateful Dead, except for the musicanship part. I respect the Dead in the way they bucked music industry conventions. But musically I would take Phish over the Dead any day. 3. If you had one to eat, I'd bring the ketchup. -compadre- (A avid phish fan who no longer does drugs or is the least bit rich) >> Huh? Richie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 11:55:09 +0100 From: "Sasha" To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: Re: recommendations, purchases Message-ID: <002501bf43c6$3812b940$1df51dc3@sasa> >From: Coldfire the Gallery Mistress >I would start with the latest release "Tyranny" THen work back to >"Carved in Stone" and then if you find you enjoy those 2 CD's, go look >for the self titled debut. >Hope this helps! It sure does! I've read that "Carved In Stone" is their best album to date... but I don't wanna get the best one and then get dissapointed afterwards :-) >From: The KREWZMAN >As for the Jammer who likes Rush's Grace Under Pressure and would like >a similar sounding album, I would recommend Signals. mmm, that would be me! :-)). Thanx :-) btw, I just got back from the post-office. I had to pick up LTE 1 and Mullmuzzler. I'm listening to Mullmuzzler as I'm writing this. So far, so good! Except for "Beelzebubba" :-))). Nobody seems to like that track! I listened to Platypus all day long yesterday (err, well, Platypus + Dickinson's The Chemical Wedding and... umm, Symbolic by Death :.-)) and I like it alot. It's not DT, it's not King's X but rather a nice mixture of both worlds... Okay, I need some more recommendation... I already ordered Trans-Siberian Orchestra but I've also read some nice reviews on amazon.com about Vitalij Kuprij. He has 3 albums out, and on each he has a different guitarist. I listened to some samples and I do like it... If anyone would care to elaborate on his work, just go ahead! I've also heard that his work with Artension is also amazing... supposedly, "Forces of Nature" is a masterpiece. NP: Mullmuzzler - Lace "Lifting shadows off a dream Once broken She can turn a drop of water Into an ocean..." John Myung of Dream Theater ["Lifting Shadows Off A Dream"] email_address_removed.hr http://chronosphere.zambizzi.com ICQ UIN - 6098813 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 05:56:38 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: <---Philly Guitarist Seeking DT-like prog band Message-ID: In a message dated 12/1/99 9:37:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, Biaxident914 writes: << I am a 20yr old guitarist, just outside of philly, levittown, been playing 10yrs. I am looking for either a band or individual musicians to jam with on DT covers and original material. Anyone who is interested please respond. Thanx >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 05:57:51 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: <---Philly Guitarist Seeking DT-like prog band Message-ID: I am a 20yr old guitarist, just outside of philly, levittown, been playing 10yrs. I am looking for either a band or individual musicians to jam with on DT covers and original material. Anyone who is interested please respond. Thanx >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 99 11:33:48 -0200 From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: I feel like a kid again.. Message-ID: >I just want to say that Transformers: The Movie still kicks ass 13 >years >later. :) Fuck, yeah! And it has a good soundtrack, too. :) heh And I thought I was the only one who really liked that movie... Man, I wish I could see that again... :-) BTW, I wanna thank Alex Gajic and the other guy who gave me some tips on Tolkien (I apologize to the other person who answered me, but I just deleted my old jams, can't see who did it), I really appreciate your help... Later, Adriano "A daily dose of eMpTyV will flush your mind right down the drain" DREAM THEATER Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get up to $200 towards airline tix: www.priceline.com/promo/zzn1 - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:41:44 -0000 From: "Tristam Douglas" To: "YtseJam" Subject: Any UK jammer going to see Yes? Message-ID: <002f01bf43e7$603bc760$9d33883e@default> Any UK jammer going to see Yes in eitehr Sheffield or Manchester? Also I think it is about time that we UK jammers had out own national fan club! ------------------------------------------------- Tristam Douglas email_address_removed.co.uk ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 11:58:21 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: BG/Tolkien question Message-ID: >Yeah, like someone said a few days ago, Nightfall in Middle-Earth is a very good concept album... I've >got a question, though: what's that in the booklet after the lyrics of the songs? Is that some part of >The Silmarillion? As far as I can make out, that's a very sort of general background story for what's going on in the music - not having read the Silmarillion, I don't know if they've taken parts of chapters from a translated version or whatnot, but it's definitely a little background info. However, the background info only does you some good unless you have MORE background information from having read at least some Tolkien before. :) So in that sense I don't know how it fulfills a function of background info, but oh well. It's very cool, pretty well-written stuff. I translated it for some people (hey Luke) so if you want a translation into English let me know. Alex "The White House has always attracted the mentally ill." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:28:58 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Panasonic Portables Message-ID: I agree will Al (and you have entered the Twilight Zone)... but! there is one thing that will be of note to jammers in particular: While the Panasonics now offer 24 or some odd hours of play time on a pair of AA's, *and* while they have pretty much indestructable construction *and* while they have damn fine skip protection, the compression scheme the model I have (SL230, an older new model) added distortion to the keyboards on Divine Wings Of tragedy -- it was sob-worthy. It looks like the mp3 discman is using the same innards (i.e., laser tracks and such) as the Panasonic. That might be the next big purchase for fans of long plane trips and car rides. --Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I like to go to art museums and name the untitled paintings... 'Boy With Pail'... 'Kitten On Fire'..." --Steven Wright ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:50:49 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: TSO/Just got another boot (Mike's vocals on Cover my Eyes Message-ID: hey guys, TSO is supposed to be on some Xmas TV special on the 14th (Tuesday) No clue what station. I am going to WCW Nitro Monday. Kick ass! Just had to throw that in there. On another note, I got a new DT boot in, the Lost Paris tapes. Its a silver CD, I know, I did the unthinkable and paid 24.99 for it, but I wanted it really bad. Came all the way from Belgium. Whoever did the thing fucked up bad. The case is fine, teh CD reads Dream Thaether. No joke. Mike, was that just James messing up at the end of Cover My Eyes, or just fuckin around? I had to let out a chuckle at the end from your comments. The songs that didn't make the live CD were really good to. It seems James voice sounds better before the producing process went through. Any thoughts why? Kurt NP-SFAM "and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going"-Doubledrive New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out In Stores NOW! "I don't know how the guys in Slayer are going to live past 40"-Paul Blocker See Queensryche on Tour this fall! www.queensryche.com for latest dates! ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Kizer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... Message-ID: --- Brian Hayden wrote: > I ran a website for this purpose during the FII > tour, and a lot of people > found it helpful. I won't have the time to do it > during this tour, but it's > a good idea if somebody has the time. Good idea Brian... I setup a special forum on the Ivory Gate bulletin board for concert goers, that way everyone will have a place to post what shows they are going to and how to hook up with other jammers... Go to: http://ivorygate.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/ivorygate/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi And choose the "Scenes From A Tour" forum... post anything you want that is relevant to the tour (dates, tickets, rides needed, places to meet up, etc....)... Enjoy, and see some of you out there on the road... ===== ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:52:06 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Metal Edge's review of SFaM Message-ID: i would've liked to see this review of SFaM, but the link you provided requires a password. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:35:07 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Portable CD players Message-ID: Hi Chris, >I'm looking for a recomendation for a portable CD player, and in gneral >which brands are more reliable. I've just bought a SONY D-E445. It has a second-generation ESP, so I can shake it and shake it and shake it, but still it works fine. It also has megabass-groove effects. They supply two rechargeable batteries, and I really like that it has an RemoteControl. I dont use AVLS though.:))))) Its a pitty that they supply earphones instead of headphones, because I prefer fuckin huge headphones, but Oh well... Nothing's perfect... And the price... it was round 150 bux here in .hu Bye ZZZZZ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:35:09 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Gold Message-ID: Hi Paul, >Zeusz gets four stars. It's from Prince's Gold Experience. What da heck? Y only four? Oh well...:) Nothing is perfect.:) Bye ZZZZZ, **** mailto:email_address_removed UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 20:57:21 GMT From: "Isaac Trumbo" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: greatful dead Message-ID: the greatful dead were horrible.. period dot com.. you might like em and that's fine, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it was really a horrible band. i grew up around them.. donna jean was pretty much my mom (her son was and is my best friend) so i was inundated by the music and the people arround the music and i can safely say that they all suck .. the studio stuff was decent cause they could edit, but live you gotta be on acid not to notice how much they fuck up. NEVER EVER did i hear them once play anything straight up.. always fucked up everything, and not on purpose.. they just would lose tempo and miss chord changes and shit all over their music.. they blew can't really say much about fish cause i've only heard them once..they sounded like shit that time but it might have been just a bad day inferno NP: jeff buckley - last goodbye single >Phish kicks ass.......hey richie, go fuck yourself...ur ignorant and ur >probably 12. You can not like the music, but hey, at least respect the >shit. BTW.....grateful dead kicked ass too....if you dont like that, eat a >dick. > >-compadre- >(A avid phish fan who no longer does drugs or is the least bit rich) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:15:09 -0700 (MST) From: MOSSMAN BENJAMIN ERRAMOUSPE To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5227 Message-ID: I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but has anyone seen Portnoy's new instructional video? I ordered it yesterday and am anxious to hear any reviews. I own the other video he released a few years back, and i hope that this one has him playing a bit more and not so much discussion of the parts. don't get me wrong Mr. P, I enjoyed the analyzations, I just love watching you play more. from Denver, Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:05:52 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jeff Buckley Sighting! Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:07:37 -0800 (PST) "Isaac Trumbo" writes: > NP: jeff buckley - last goodbye single Oh my god, actually another person who has heard of Jeff Buckley!!! Is there anyone else out there... actually I am amoung music lovers in this group so I hope so... I love Buckley and freakin cried when i heard he died... that was a big loss I think... ANyway, no one around here really knows who he is... my thoughts YtseJon ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:11:38 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: MP video "review" of sorts?? Message-ID: > I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but has anyone seen > Portnoy's > new instructional video? I ordered it yesterday and am anxious to > hear > any reviews. I own the other video he released a few years back, > and i > hope that this one has him playing a bit more and not so much > discussion > of the parts. Ben, I was one of the first to order his video from hudson Music. I was going to make sure I got it signed!!! it is a really good video!!! I got his Prog Concept video two days before I got his new one and I like his new one alot better because he plays ALOT of songs... Being a two video set he can afford the time to... Then he goes in depth into different fills and odd time phrasings... I breaks down his fills note by note and it turned my double bass technique around coniderably! i was working through a book written by Steve "Doc" Wacholz of Savatage that he gave me before it was finished and it is good but he starts evrything out on his left foot and I felt odd doing that.. whereas Virgil Donati and MP both say to do what feels comfy and they both use their right feet... Anyway, it is a great vid with a whole lot of amazing home video footage of LTE and some good FII concert footage... later YtseJon --awesome video mike, and thanks for signing it! ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:53:37 -0600 (CST) From: Brian D Hayden To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! Message-ID: I dunno, I always thought Jeff Buckley was a just a weak imitator of his dad. Check out Tim Buckley, who also died young. He's awesome. -Brian On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Jonathan D Willey wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 13:07:37 -0800 (PST) "Isaac Trumbo" > writes: > > > > NP: jeff buckley - last goodbye single > > > Oh my god, actually another person who has heard of Jeff Buckley!!! Is > there anyone else out there... actually I am amoung music lovers in this > group so I hope so... I love Buckley and freakin cried when i heard he > died... that was a big loss I think... ANyway, no one around here really > knows who he is... > > my thoughts > YtseJon > ___________________________________________________________________ > Why pay more to get Web access? > Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! > Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:54:25 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" To: Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! Message-ID: <001301bf445c$fa03db60$message_id_removed> > I dunno, I always thought Jeff Buckley was a just a weak imitator of his > dad. Check out Tim Buckley, who also died young. He's awesome. Whevever I hear the name Buckley, I think of that old fatass who does the Quaker Instant Hot Oatmeal commercials... What kind of oatmeal does this other Mr. Buckley eat? :) Enlighten us! -- KorgX3 needs a little energon and alot of luck. NP: Raiders of the Lost Ark on the USA Network. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:31:26 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:59:25 -0800 (PST) Brian D Hayden writes: > > I dunno, I always thought Jeff Buckley was a just a weak imitator of > his > dad. Check out Tim Buckley, who also died young. He's awesome. > > -Brian Brian, Is Jeff's dad in the similiar style?? I will have to check it out... anyway, I think Jeff has some very emotion filled songs... can't wait to hear his paps now! ytsejon ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 23:31:00 -0600 From: "Edward Polzin" To: Subject: Re: TSO/Just got another boot (Mike's vocals on Cover my Eyes Message-ID: <003c01bf4462$1b7e2980$d70b8ad1@boner> > On another note, I got a new DT boot in, the Lost Paris tapes. Its a > silver CD, I know, I did the unthinkable and paid 24.99 for it, but I > wanted it really bad. Came all the way from Belgium. Whoever did the > thing fucked up bad. The case is fine, teh CD reads Dream Thaether. No > joke. You too? I have an original silver as well and it's spelled Theather. I thought i had a cheap imitation. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:14:23 -0600 (CST) From: Brian D Hayden To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Jeff Buckley Sighting! Message-ID: That's Wilford Brimley you hoser. :) -Brian On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Korg Ecksthrey wrote: > > > I dunno, I always thought Jeff Buckley was a just a weak imitator of his > > dad. Check out Tim Buckley, who also died young. He's awesome. > > Whevever I hear the name Buckley, I think of that old fatass who does the > Quaker Instant Hot Oatmeal commercials... What kind of oatmeal does this > other Mr. Buckley eat? :) Enlighten us! > -- > KorgX3 needs a little energon and alot of luck. > NP: Raiders of the Lost Ark on the USA Network. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:03:55 +0600 From: Abu Shams Ahmed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Pink Floyd Message-ID: I have to say this.....As much as I love the band I don't see the reason for bringing out another live album. I mean didn't they release the 'digitally remastered re-whatever' virsion of all their disks? And pulse was a very good album specialy with the live DSOM still gives me goosebumps...but after waiting for ....oh six years I was actually hoping for a studio album from them. I mean right after 'Momentary Lapse' they had Delicate Sounds and I thoght the mixing in that album was horrible. Then 'bout four years after that came Division Bell followed by Pulse. I was dissapointed to see almost the same ('cept for the new songs) songs in the album as DC but as the sound q was really good, still love it. but now, again another one. I can understand a lot of people not liking PF. As for me, right after Run like hell' I do not listen to the disk 2 at all. its' just too gloomy and negative, even when one's not paying attention to the music. Just think Gilmour should start making music then planning on cash out on past albums -Later ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 03:26:06 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: WHERE'S THE JAM AT?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: WHERE IS THE YTSEJAM DIGEST??? I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ONE ALL DAY, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, PEOPLE??!!!! DON'T TELL ME THERE'S LACK OF INTEREST, THAT CAN'T BE HAPPENING. MAKE THE JAM HAPPEN!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 03:38:44 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... Message-ID: Greg, i think your idea is brilliant. We "fellow ytsejammers" would have the best time at a good concert if we were united, if i may speak for the rest of ytsejam d.. An organized way of meeting for a night of musical ecstasy, like you describe is exactly what we could use. I'm behind you in any way possible, and i encourage other ytsejammers to support this idea... -Pat ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5228 **************************