YTSEJAM Digest 5226 Today's Topics: 1) Re: NAMM show in Los Angeles?Angeles by Michael Kizer 2) Re: Pain of Salvation by "Metzger, Mark" 3) PF Wall by CyberDuke 4) Prog metal band from Norway by "Thomas Christian Hansen" 5) Blind Guardian/Tolkien question by "Adriano F. Giacomini" 6) Re: ? by Angelo Lombardi 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5225 by Matt Johnston 8) Re: Blind Guardian/Tolkien question by Brad Plumb 9) Atlanta Record show by Eric Joseph Desobe 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5225 by email_address_removed 11) Jammer Bands by Jonathan D Willey 12) Tours by "Charlie_Farrell" 13) Portable CD players by Chris Jerolamon 14) Re: Portable CD players by "A_Change of_Seasons" 15) CDNOW's Holiday Sale by O-P Komonen 16) Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... by Greg Habetler 17) POS/MM/Seattle by "Trevor W. Hoit" 18) Meshuggah guitar player's side project. by "Dave Peterson" 19) AW: Pixel Planet Top 90 CDs of the '90's by Michael Pruchnicki 20) Re: Meshuggah guitar player's side project. by Michael Kizer 21) PIPI by "Vandenabeele, Hein" 22) Re : Manowar sucks? by "Julien Ferrant" 23) NO WAY! by Andrew Coutermarsh 24) Re: ? by Jonathan D Willey 25) Re: Scarred by "David Tod" 26) Re: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... by Brian Hayden 27) recommendations, purchases by "Sasha" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Kizer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: NAMM show in Los Angeles?Angeles Message-ID: --- email_address_removed wrote: > Anyone know the dates or website for the upcoming > NAMM show in Los Angeles? February 3 - 6, 2000 NAMM is a cool industry trade show to go to if you are a musician or at least interested in musical instruments, etc. You'll need to get a pass to get into the show and some of the special performances that always occur during this thing... Passes are usually only available to music merchants, vendors, etc... but there are ways to get one. ;-) ===== ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:56:08 -0500 From: "Metzger, Mark" To: "'(ytsejam)'" Subject: Re: Pain of Salvation Message-ID: >> > there was another album listed called Entropia. >> > Anyone own this out there? >> >> "I have it," Paul said, skirting around the legalities. :) Mark, not skirting the legalities :) contends that Entropia is far less of an album that Concrete Lake. Even to the point of being willing to part with it for the $20 it cost me. I think that they improved a ton in terms of songwriting on Concrete Lake. Mark Metzger email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:57:40 +0100 From: CyberDuke To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: PF Wall Message-ID: > From: crow > Subject: Re: The Wall Live(No DTC) > > > > NEWS FLASH: Pink Floyd Releasing New Live Wall LP Hey guys, please bring it on here when this stuff gets out. > > "The Wall show was one of the most amazing ever staged, and > > the live version was, in many ways, better than the studio > > version," English fan Phil Beckett, 46, wrote in an e-mail. It might be true. Well it's little childish to say "better than the studio version", but I get his point. I know for sure Comfortbaly Numb will have the extended guitar solo, which I love it. I don't doubt it'll be one great live album to possess. > (oh, and hey, what a deal on the planet x demo, huh? $20 > bucks for people in the US, and $25 for those living in > the rest of the country!) A-ha, their true ambitions finally revealed! USA wanna be all the world. And they wanna charge us with extra 5 bucks. --------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:25:17 +0100 From: "Thomas Christian Hansen" To: Subject: Prog metal band from Norway Message-ID: <003601bf4294$4669e000$7bb04382@thomasha> Hi Fan's of Dream Theater ! My name is Thomas and im from Norway. I Play in a melodic progressiv metal band : http://home.sol.no/~thomasch/theater/page1.html Our last show was in sweden 3 weeks ago, playing for Dio,Manowar and Motorhead, That was just Amazing :) Please check out our bands homepage ( if u like ) mail me and tell me how u like it thomasch@online.no Anyways, Im looking forward to 27.mars-2000, couse then im going to Dream Theater Concert, and that is gonna Kick Ass !!! Rock on ....... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 99 20:44:02 -0200 From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Blind Guardian/Tolkien question Message-ID: Yeah, like someone said a few days ago, Nightfall in Middle-Earth is a very good concept album... I've got a question, though: what's that in the booklet after the lyrics of the songs? Is that some part of The Silmarillion? Another one: I've become really interested in Tolkien's work, and I've been thinking about getting one of his books... Since there are a few people here who seem to know well his work, which one would you say I should get first? I'd be very thankful if you guys could give me a hand on this... :-) >Isn't it funny that only A MONTH after SFAM is released, we're back >into >FII flame wars again? Wasn't FII released TWO YEARS ago? Is SFAM not >THAT interesting to argue about? ;-) If I remember well, this came up again when somebody said SFaM was so good it seemed like FII had never existed... And there seems to be a kind of an agreement here in the jam that SFaM is very good, with a few exceptions... And as people here in the jam need to be arguing about something all the time, the FII discussion came up again... :-) NP: DIO - Sacred Heart Later, Adriano "A daily dose of eMpTyV will flush your mind right down the drain" DREAM THEATER Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get up to $200 towards airline tix: www.priceline.com/promo/zzn1 - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 18:16:21 -0800 From: Angelo Lombardi To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ? Message-ID: < Isn't it funny that only A MONTH after SFAM is released, we're back into FII flame wars again? Wasn't FII released TWO YEARS ago? Is SFAM not THAT interesting to argue about? ;-) > Hey... why does almost everyone dislike FII??? Or at least have something negative to say about it? I thought FII was one of their best CDs out since I&W!!! I really can't think of anything not good by DT (including WDADU - yeah... I like that album, too). What is it that people don't like about FII? I'm just wondering... Bu bye, Angelo NP: with myself (j/k) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:20:08 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5225 Message-ID: Ugh. 5224 was more interesting than that drivel. Doubledrive rocks nads. They should tour with Dream Theater. (hey, a guy can wish). Dream Theater needs to play Machine Messiah on the tour. It is the only way I can possibly orgasm during the concert, aside from actual sex. Oh, and I'm working on gathering material for the SFAM movie... made up completely of clips from other movies and music videos. I'm going to start with Dance Of Eternit,y and work from there if it works. I should have something to give to Mike when they hit Portland (you guys better hit Portland, or no treat for you.) Matt out. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:54:04 -0600 From: Brad Plumb To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Blind Guardian/Tolkien question Message-ID: >Another one: I've become really interested in Tolkien's work, and I've >been thinking about getting one of his books... Since there are a few >people here who seem to know well his work, which one would you say >I should get first? I'd be very thankful if you guys could give me >a hand on this... :-) > The best places to start are undoubtedly: The Hobbit, or The Lord of the Rings (3 volumes). These are his most famous, and most accessible works. The Hobbit is a prequel to LOTR and if you can put up with the child-like tone (it's a children's book) then I recommend reading it first. Things in LOTR will make more sense, and at times there are things which are supposed to evoke memories in the reader from the Hobbit, soo... LOTR is much more adult, so don't get discouraged if the hobbit isn't your thing. Tolkien rules. Palpatine Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai "Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel "What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope "He said I was crazy, and it's not true! Although I did try to burn his house down once..." - Werner Herzog regarding Klaus Kinski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:22:14 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Joseph Desobe To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Atlanta Record show Message-ID: Could whoever posted the info. recording this Sunday's atlanta record show email me privately with times and directions. Thanks. -Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:59:57 EST From: email_address_removed To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5225 Message-ID: In a message dated 99-12-09 16:00:09 EST, you write: << Darn Right, Phish is prog!! You listen to "It's Ice" or "You Enjoy Myself" and then tell me they're a Greatful Dead ripoff! >> They're a Grateful Dead rip-off. Richie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:56:05 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jammer Bands Message-ID: Hey Jammers, In response to a recent post about a Band of one of the jammers are there any other jammers oiut there who have a band that has a website to hear clips from? I usually like what I hear from the websites that are listed and I think this is a great forum for us as prog and "heavier" music listeners to support each others bands as we support the DT's of the world also. i'm sure many of you know how hard it is to make it as a band these days so if we all check out each other's sites and maybe even get some CD's of some of the bands that would be great... shit, maybe we can even compile a Jammer band CD or something crazy like that... who knows... anyway just my thoughts... I think you all should check out the "Theater of Pain" site also.. it's pretty cool... My site isn't that cool but I am not super good at html and front page express sucks but it is free!!! You can check out my band "Many Deceived" at http://www.netusa1.net/~benjon/manyd.htm... let's get prog and stuff to more people shall we... ;) ytsejon Drummer/Producer: Many Deceived ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:22:09 -0000 From: "Charlie_Farrell" To: Subject: Tours Message-ID: <015001bf42c8$30f7c5a0$6086bc3e@farrell> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:45:49 +0100 ]From: "Gallop, Neil" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: Tours >am I the only person here who isn't getting their >knickers in a twist because Dream Theater will be >taking the Dixie Dregs on tour with them? Nope >Just more time >to be spent in the bar. The interesting question for me >is more who will the mysterious 3rd band be. After >Spock's Beard have said it won't be them, my personal >number one choice would be Mastermind. Anybody else? Well, as long as it's not Tiles. They had their chance, but I didn't see many people being won over by them. Mastermind sounds like a good choice. . and talking about tours with 3 bands on the bill, this years Freedom Call/Edguy/Angra lineup was excellent. Those of you in Germany etc have had the pleasure of seeing a lineup of Glen Hughes (The voice of Rock), MSG and Thin Lizzy (tour still in progress). Some of us don't like to spoil old memories though :-) Europeans have Sonata Arctica/Rhapsody/Strato to look forward to in the Spring. Call me a sucker for punishment, but I plan to catch about 4 or 5 shows on that tour :-)) There's also some rumours of a NWOBHM tour featuring Angelwitch (ROFL), Praying Mantis (OK) and Tank (who - don't remember them). There's a tentative date down for a gig in London in January, but they're threatening to do a full European Tour. Some bands should realize that there time has past and leave it be. I saw the re-formed Black Sabbath last Sunday for the first time in over 20 years, but it was nothing special. I know that the younger generation :-)) like to say that they've seen the greats, but its not the same. Now the Who are at it too - playing 2 gigs down the road from me in Shepherds Bush before Christmas. Where will it end? Charlie P.S. Graham (Borland) I think that there is a very strong likelihood that I'll be going to all the DT shows in the UK. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:40:08 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Jerolamon To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Portable CD players Message-ID: I'm looking for a recomendation for a portable CD player, and in gneral which brands are more reliable. Personally, I've heard horror stories about Sony (some of them here), but mine has worked flawlessly for about 5 year so I'm not sure what to believe. Can any of the resident experts shed some light on the subject? Side note- recent Cd purchaces include Rush - 2112 and Fates Warning - APSOG, as well as Yes - Relayer. I love the latter two, but I'm having a rough time getting into Rush's pre-Permanent Waves material. I think you guys just talked it up too much, and now I'm dissapointed. But who knows, maye a few more spins will help change my opinion. ~Chris Jerolamon~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." -Rush ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 05:28:26 GMT From: "A_Change of_Seasons" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Portable CD players Message-ID: Hey All... I'm looking for a recomendation for a portable CD player, and in gneral which brands are more reliable. Personally, I've heard horror stories about Sony (some of them here), but mine has worked flawlessly for about 5 year so I'm not sure what to believe. Can any of the resident experts shed some light on the subject? I have a CD player from Phillips-Magnavox with 25 second ESP. In the year or so that I've had it, it has not skipped on me once. It's been very reliable. It also comes with a car kit as well. Better yet it's decently priced at Target. My 2 cents poj ****************************** "Seize the day!", I heard him say. "Life will not always be this way. Look around. Hear the sounds. Cherish your life, while you're still around!" ****************************** A Change Of Seasons -- By Dream Theater ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:24:50 +0200 From: O-P Komonen To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CDNOW's Holiday Sale Message-ID: from sixdegrees: CDNOW's Holiday Sale For music this holiday, there's only one place you need to go: CDNOW. We have our best prices of the year -- savings up to 30% off -- and FREE shipping when you buy 3 or more items! *Don't delay- SALE ENDS 12/14/99. Click below and start saving! http://www.sixdegrees.com/redirect/goto.asp?to=cdnow003a op777 Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Kevin Madden ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:51:05 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Habetler To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... Message-ID: Hello sisters and brothers. I just had a relatively simple idea (which brings with it a rather complex level of implementation) that we should come up with a way to organize ourselves into regional factions with which we could organize parties and group concert-going. During the FII tour, I met up with a few Oregon 'jammers (Jim, Zack, and Matt) for the Portland, OR show and it was a total blast being able to hang out with and talk to people who share the same love of DT that I do. It would be really cool if there were an established way that 'jammers could communicate separately with other 'jammers (aside from the usual ytsejam post of "who's going to the *whatever* show) in our respective areas so that when certain "Ytse-friendly" bands came to town, we could arrange to get together before or after the show to have lengthy discussions about what we all experienced and maybe even make some new friends. Maybe a new "regional contacts" area for UACM? Just a thought. -Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:33:22 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: POS/MM/Seattle Message-ID: > > there was another album listed called Entropia. Anyone own > >this out there? > "I have it," Paul said, skirting around the legalities. :) You can buy it legally at CDNow. > The interesting question for me > is more who will the mysterious 3rd band be. After > Spock's Beard have said it won't be them, my personal > number one choice would be Mastermind. Anybody else? Only if they bring Jens J with them and don't sing. :) > Hell Yeah!!! If they come to Seattle or Portland or any where close to > eastern WA, I am there.... When the tour dates are released if anyone > wants to carpool or something to a show let me know!!! I am in Pullman, > WA. > ytseJon Jon let me know if you come to Seattle or if you're crazy enough to carpool to SF or LA. I did it for LTE! Trevor-who is vegetarian not because he likes animals but because he HATES plants. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:31:49 PST From: "Dave Peterson" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Meshuggah guitar player's side project. Message-ID: Temple of the Jam: For those of you looking to sink your teeth into a ball of razor-blades, and you HAVE all of the Meshuggah albums already (*grin*) let me introduce you to Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects. He's one of the guitarists for Meshuggah and that's the name of his band. Album title is "Sol Niger Within". This album is as intense as any Meshuggah album (all the f*cked up rhythms are there), but with a slight twist. He adds more variety to each track. From computer modulation to multiple vocalists, it keeps the listener's attention. (If you felt Chaosphere lacked variety, check this one out). His vocalist on this album, in my opinion is better than the Meshuggah vocalist. He's got more personality and, I don't know, just sounds more "wicked". If you can't get enough of Meshuggah, do yourself a favor and pick this one up. It's at CDNow. I plan on filing it under "M" in my collection. Later! - Dr. Teeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:18:03 +0100 From: Michael Pruchnicki To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: AW: Pixel Planet Top 90 CDs of the '90's Message-ID: > I thought some of you might be interested in this article. I've put together > a list of what I think are the best 90 CDs of the 1990's, with extended > commentary. Check it out and let me know what you think, good or bad. Well, you asked for it. I can hardly agree with that list. Everyone's got his own opinions, but IMVHO Conception's "Flow" is a rather forgettable album. To place it on the No.1 (!!!) spot is quite ... er ... irritating. :) Other than that, it's pretty well-written (that's the objective part here ;) Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:20:38 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Kizer To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Meshuggah guitar player's side project. Message-ID: --- Dave Peterson wrote: > to Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects. I bought this album and it quite a bit... Musically this thing is great, very cool guitar playing... Twisted subject matter including alien abductions and things are fairly entertaining too... About the only thing I am not real crazy about the vocalist from Cradle of Filth on some of the tracks... "Beavis on crack" as I call him... hehe ===== ~Michael Kizer < email_address_removed > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:17:46 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" Subject: PIPI Message-ID: >> It would be actually much cooler if Portnoy played 355/113. >> :-) >> >> P.S.: Do the math and be amazed. :-) > >As much as I thought that it was funny that you put PI as a time sig, for >the last time, TIME SIGS are NOT fractions! It's not about the math. Well, it is not really, PI, but you are close !! :-) HeinV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:52:23 +0100 From: "Julien Ferrant" To: Subject: Re : Manowar sucks? Message-ID: Nick Giannotti wrote : >anything by Manowar. Yes, Manowar. That cheesy metal band? They're so old >they owe Jesus $4? Yeah, them. I was actually disappointed that I spent the >money for the disc, but kept it for those times that I want to remind myself >what NOT to do as a musician. The harmonies, the screaming, high-pitched >guitars... all reminded me of that (to put it bluntly) gay shit that Manowar >puts out. .. >Meanwhile, the entire crowd is spitting at the band, screaming "YOU SUCK!!" Gay shit. Well... Why so much hate about all the "true metal bands"? I am myself not a fan of those bands, although I like to listen to Manowar just for fun. Of course, there are not as much 122/457 signatures or technical stuff in it. But can't you let people like what they want to? If I told you I was a Morbid Angel or a Charles Mingus fan (in fact, I am both), would you blame me because your personal opinion is not according to mine? Please let people think what they want to. No intellectual dictature. Try to make them love your favorite albums, not to hate the ones you dislike. --"No need to hear things that they say" --"Life's for my own to live my own way" Metallica - Escape. BUY ANATHEMA'S "JUDGEMENT"!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:22:18 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: NO WAY! Message-ID: I got one of those stupid "Sign up with BMG!" letters in the mail yesterday and I had just opened it. Out of curiosity, I started flipping through the stamp listing they had (you have to apply these stamps to the order form for some ridiculous reason) and, to my complete surprise, they actually have Dream Theater on the stamp listing! Once in a LIVEtime was on there, as was Fates Warning: Still Life. I was blown away. Just thought I'd share my amazement with everyone. Too bad SFaM wasn't on there, though. ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh email_address_removed http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "What makes you strange is that you don't understand that I'M the one who's normal." - Heidi Lacroix ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:20:24 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ? Message-ID: Angelo Wisely Wrote: > Hey... why does almost everyone dislike FII??? Or at least have > something negative > to say about it? I thought FII was one of their best CDs out since > I&W!!! I really > can't think of anything not good by DT (including WDADU - yeah... I > like that album, > too). What is it that people don't like about FII? I'm just > wondering... I have to agree with you. Although I haven't picked up WDADU yet I just got Awake and I freakin love it. It is so Hard and different from alot of their stuff. And ya know, the first album I ever heard by them was FII. The guitarist in my band played it for me after he got it. He was/is a huge fan and he didn't really like it and wanted to see what I thought. I freakin loved it. i had never heard ANY prog up to that point and now I am really into it. ANyway, just my two cents!!! i like it all, they just freakin rule!!! ytseJon Jonathan Willey, ATC WSU ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:09:11 -0000 From: "David Tod" To: Subject: Re: Scarred Message-ID: <001501bf4339$a9e1af00$5624fad4@yyz> Can anyone help me find the current website for Scarred Records?..... My hard drive with all my bookmarks died - so now I need to find everything again... Always back up your faves folks..... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:06:37 -0600 From: Brian Hayden To: Subject: Re: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... Message-ID: I ran a website for this purpose during the FII tour, and a lot of people found it helpful. I won't have the time to do it during this tour, but it's a good idea if somebody has the time. -Brian -- They'll take you to Cloughprior and shove you in the ground, but you stick your head back out and shout, "We'll have another round" -Shane MacGowan > From: Greg Habetler > Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:40:40 -0800 (PST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Going to shows with fellow ytsejammers... > > > Hello sisters and brothers. I just had a relatively > simple idea (which brings with it a rather complex > level of implementation) that we should come up with a > way to organize ourselves into regional factions with > which we could organize parties and group > concert-going. During the FII tour, I met up with a > few Oregon 'jammers (Jim, Zack, and Matt) for the > Portland, OR show and it was a total blast being able > to hang out with and talk to people who share the same > love of DT that I do. It would be really cool if > there were an established way that 'jammers could > communicate separately with other 'jammers (aside from > the usual ytsejam post of "who's going to the > *whatever* show) in our respective areas so that when > certain "Ytse-friendly" bands came to town, we could > arrange to get together before or after the show to > have lengthy discussions about what we all experienced > and maybe even make some new friends. Maybe a new > "regional contacts" area for UACM? Just a thought. > > -Greg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:26:37 +0100 From: "Sasha" To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" Subject: recommendations, purchases Message-ID: <00ef01bf434c$f909ae80$a4ed1dc3@sasa> *lurk mode off* hello, hello there... It's been a long time since I posted to the jam... so I though I'd ask you for a few recommendations :-). Okay... this is what I'm interested in: Explorers Club - Age of Impact, Rush Tribute - Working Man - are these any good? I have heard only two albums by Rush (Fly by night, Grace under pressure) and since they have alot albums, I though I'd get this tribute... or maybe i should get some "best off" album? I like Grace under pressure ALOT so if anyone can recommend something in that vein I'd be grateful... I've read some reviews about Shadow Gallery's albums... so, just go ahead and name the one I should start with :-)). I've recently purchased Vanden Plas' Far off Grace and I think it's great! And today I bought a promo copy of When Pus Comes to Shove by Platypus... I listened to it 2 times today. The music store where i usually buy cds had a Platypus poster on the wall and I didn't even see it... hell, they had a few copies of the album and me, the blind idiot who has become a part of inventory in that store in the past few months, didn't even see the damn thing! So, anyhow, I asked the guy if they're gonna order it again and he said that he already ordered it but they don't have it in stock anymore... and then he said that he has a promo copy which "he shouldn't sell" but luckily, he made an exception. He brought this big box with, excuse me for saying so, shitload of promo cds... he has 2 copies of Vanden Plas' "The God Thing", then 2 copies of Winter Rose cd and lots of others and he's ready to part with them... which is fine by me! Oh, btw... I finally got Mind's Eye by Vinnie Moore. Thanx again to all of you who listened to the mp3 and told me what it was... it's been a few months since i first heard the clip on the radio, but I finally got the cd. Finding those Shrapnel Records Cds here in Europe is sometimes pretty hard... but it was worth the wait, In Control rules! :-)) NP: Platypus [WPCTS] - Bye Bye :-)) p.s. I'm getting Mullmuzzler and LTE 1 tomorrow! This will be a nice weekend! "Lifting shadows off a dream Once broken She can turn a drop of water Into an ocean..." John Myung of Dream Theater ["Lifting Shadows Off A Dream"] email_address_removed.hr http://chronosphere.zambizzi.com ICQ UIN - 6098813 ------------------------------ End of YTSEJAM Digest 5226 **************************